Sprint 3G finally improving? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

So I have been horribly frustrated with sprints 3G speeds since I got my epic. I live in metro Detroit. (Fairly large sprint market) and have averaged around 50-75kbps DL. With a 600ms+ ping. And there is ZERO wimax anywhere. I was getting fed up. Until over the last month or so I have seen 600%+ increase in speeds. I now average closer to 500kbps DL with a 111ping. And I have even had consistent tests of 1mb DL. Could this be the first fruits of network vision? Or other tower upgrades? Or somehow less traffic. I had considered it could be the newer ROM/modem. (CM10/FH13). Has anyone else seen recent speed increases?
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cknuth said:
So I have been horribly frustrated with sprints 3G speeds since I got my epic. I live in metro Detroit. (Fairly large sprint market) and have averaged around 50-75kbps DL. With a 600ms+ ping. And there is ZERO wimax anywhere. I was getting fed up. Until over the last month or so I have seen 600%+ increase in speeds. I now average closer to 500kbps DL with a 111ping. And I have even had consistent tests of 1mb DL. Could this be the first fruits of network vision? Or other tower upgrades? Or somehow less traffic. I had considered it could be the newer ROM/modem. (CM10/FH13). Has anyone else seen recent speed increases?
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yeah man here in st pete i finally saw a consistent 1 meg down and i was inside ( but near a window) the network map said theres about to be another speed increase here its usually a lie tho.... i doubt its anything permanent sprint fails im moving to straight talk once its all over but im supposed to have lte in my area at the end of my contract and i got employee plan pricing if i have lte at my house then ill keep them if not oh well. could network vision not just be a giant false marketing scheme?
edit well i just did a speed test and im back to the usual 300kbs lol lucky i pay a dial up price and get dial up service XD so i guess not. sprints the most useless unlimited ever. Even living in a wimax area the wimax sucks everywhere but the beach. ( where i dont even need wimax)

I have 5+ months horrible experience with Sprint 3G speed after last two days on roaming service came back this morning better than ever from 0.09Mbps download to 0.89Mbps download huge improvement sadly it last till this evening when service cut off came back horrible as always. :banghead:
At least I know they are working on it.
Arecibo, PR 00612
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Whatever spring says "network vision" is. Clearly they are trying to or want to improve their service. One area they are strong, customer service. But their tech(except phones) sucks. So the question for me is, just like the first guy who replied. Is if they can get LTE working by the time my contract is up. Or at least get 3g solidly above 1mb.. then I would stay no question.
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cknuth said:
Whatever spring says "network vision" is. Clearly they are trying to or want to improve their service. One area they are strong, customer service. But their tech(except phones) sucks. So the question for me is, just like the first guy who replied. Is if they can get LTE working by the time my contract is up. Or at least get 3g solidly above 1mb.. then I would stay no question.
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+1, I have 1 year left on my contract. Next July I will re-evaluate sprint and see how things are going. If sprint stepped up to the plate then bonus I will stay but if its the same ol song and dance crap I am gone. Maybe this xmas I will do that re-evaluate of sprint and see what is up and just maybe I might buy off the rest of my contract, pay a etf and jump ship. But having to pay a extra 10 bucks a month just because of a smart phone crap aka 4g is bull**** considering sprint does not have wimax, 4g, lte or what ever here where I live and 3g is absolutly slower than dial up modem speeds.

Well Sprint Vision says that in the next 6 months a tower will basically be put in my backyard, according to their map. My contract is up in 12 months, I'll make a decision then.

I get 8kb/s out here in Toledo....
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Mine has picked up in some areas the past few weeks but its still crap in other areas and at random times. Its also still much slower than 3G from any other carrier. My Sprint 3G speeds are often similar to Tmobile Edge speeds I had 4 years ago but Edge was more consistent.

Every week my 3G speed changes, today I am getting less than 100kbps when last week or so I was getting almost 600. I am hoping this is due to them upgrading the towers and that is causing the inconsistencies.

Are you using updated maps to see this info or are you just using the maps on Sprint's website?

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So I have been horribly frustrated with sprints 3G speeds since I got my epic. I live in metro Detroit. (Fairly large sprint market) and have averaged around 50-75kbps DL. With a 600ms+ ping. And there is ZERO wimax anywhere. I was getting fed up. Until over the last month or so I have seen 600%+ increase in speeds. I now average closer to 500kbps DL with a 111ping. And I have even had consistent tests of 1mb DL. Could this be the first fruits of network vision? Or other tower upgrades? Or somehow less traffic. I had considered it could be the newer ROM/modem. (CM10/FH13). Has anyone else seen recent speed increases?
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Pretty sure they've actually, finally, started work on Network Vision for our area.
We're supposed to be apart of the network vision plan for the second half of 2012.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/

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Pretty sure they've actually, finally, started work on Network Vision for our area.
We're supposed to be apart of the network vision plan for the second half of 2012.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
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If they do manage to get LTE going by next summer I'll for sure stick around. Prolly with the 2nd nexus device if possible.
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If they do manage to get LTE going by next summer I'll for sure stick around. Prolly with the 2nd nexus device if possible.
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I practically guarantee they will by then.
Personally I'm more concerned about getting 3g speeds in the 1.5 - 3 mbps range and the improved service that comes with Network Vision.
Really couldn't care less for LTE/Wimax with that. :silly:

Same crappy speed here.

metro Detroit here too, and I haven't noticed any increase. For some reason my phone now roams constantly. Hopefully not so much that they terminate my contract and force me to jump on T-Mobiles new deal.

3G still sucks here ...
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Rob the plumber said:
metro Detroit here too, and I haven't noticed any increase. For some reason my phone now roams constantly. Hopefully not so much that they terminate my contract and force me to jump on T-Mobiles new deal.
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My friends from the bay area (California) started roaming when their towers were being upgraded so it could be a could sign. Here S4GRU website says you guys are should be upgraded soon:
S4GRU Detriot

I'm only with them for the price an unlimited...
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I'm only with them for the price an unlimited...
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That's what I'm saying. I'll stick it out for the prospect of unlimited 4g...
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Metro Detroit here as well... Get the FH13 modem, you won't be disappointed
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[Q] Really slow data speed

I have been dealing with Sprint this past week about very slow data speed. I have been getting around 50-100 kbps down and 300 kbps up. When I went to a nearby town I was getting 800- 1300 kbps down and 400-500 kbps up. All of these are on 3G. Today when Sprint called me I was asked if " EV " was displayed instead of 3G. I was told there are 3 levels to 3G. I vaguely remember EV before I rooted and ROMed but I have not seen it since. Is indication of " EV " typically removed from a custom ROM? I have used Frozen 1.2 and am now using RandomRom 2.3.4. I tried all of the available modems with Frozen with no change before I installed EG22 and Flashed RandomRom. I have a few friends that also are complaining about slow data speeds in our area so I don't think its my phone anymore. Any thoughts or advice on the subject?? Thanks!
I think you mean EV
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I think you mean EV
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Your right! Fixed!
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Your right! Fixed!
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I think you mean "you're"
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Sprint has horrible 3G speeds which is also why Im going to drop them soon.
After Sprint did not renew its tower leasing agreements and lost its Alltel tower network, its % nationwide coverage area dropped precipitously. Even with SERO, I am now questioning whether it's worth staying with Sprint given the decline in service over the past few years.
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Sprint has horrible 3G speeds which is also why Im going to drop them soon.
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Have fun when you reach your 2g of 5gig cap. which is really easy to do.
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You're most likely on 1x. The Epic doesn't have 1x or EV signal icons by default. Try this app and it will tell you everything about your connection.
before the evo came out, sprint was worty of its name.
it had the fastest 3g in the country. 3-5mbps on my hero in nyc
then evo came out and who needs 4g when your 3g is more than enough?
Everyone saying they dropping sprint soon. Sprint will phase in their new type of signal next year, they will discuss it on the 7th of next month. I think they may have started on some towers. My 3G has greatly dropped but my 4G is almost as fast (if not as fast) as my DSL internet. I am happy with it and being with Sprint 6 years and compared to what others complain about from their service I'll stick with sprint for 6 more. Unless they raise prices.
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Everyone saying they dropping sprint soon. Sprint will phase in their new type of signal next year, they will discuss it on the 7th of next month.
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Well, hopefully it changes things for the better, but I still don't see how it makes up for the lack of towers. And what's good is 4g if I can't get it in 50% of locations? Giving it until the end of the year.
I guess im lucky. I get ok 3g (0.9mbs) and great 4g ( 5-7 mbs). But driving around my city, it cones and goes once I hit a few city hills.
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Me and my g/f both have Epics. Mine is rooted and running a custom rom and hers is stock. Both of us were experiencing crappy data speeds until i updated both phones modems to EH17.
Speeds are much better in some places where we have good signal, from 300k to 1.5 - 2.2mbps. So it may have something to do with the modem you currently have as well.
Although i did talk to a sprint employee at the nearby store and I was told they were going through some tower upgrades in the DFW area. Tearing down old towers and putting up new. He suggested that it would be around 6 to 8 months time before things are completed.
I also have been in contact with sprint over the last 6 weeks or so about crap 3g. At times I see 12KB downloads with 6 out of 6 to 6 bars.
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I ran that clear nvram thing from the other thread. I suggest you try this. It fixed my GPS perfectly and my 3g speeds have increased dramatically. I ran a speedtest earlier and got 300-350kb/s. Before I did it my 3g was atrocious at less than 50kb/s.
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Problem with all this is that CDMA "4G" eats a ton of battery compared to just as fast (or in Sprint's case, 20x faster) HSPA+ network. This is just my very personal observation between Epic and LG G2X. My super personal opinion is that CDMA should just burn in hell and die. Voice quality is better...
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Problem with all this is that CDMA "4G" eats a ton of battery compared to just as fast (or in Sprint's case, 20x faster) HSPA+ network. This is just my very personal observation between Epic and LG G2X. My super personal opinion is that CDMA should just burn in hell and die. Voice quality is better...
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This. Anyone ever run their phone in airplane mode from a full charge to 0%? The battery lasts AGES. I had to run benchmarks repeatedly on performance mode for hours to kill it purposely. The ****ed up part is that I ALWAYS have NY 3g off and 4g on. The radio in this device is horrid for battery life.
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I've also called sprint this week to ask/complain about data speeds. The best I've ever had is around 1100 kbps down, but lateley it's only been 100 to 300. So a couple of days ago I went to a verizon store and asked the girl to compare speeds with me. She was getting 1900kdps down and my epic NEVER even found the nearest server. I was blown away and very red faced when I left. I could get better data speeds with two soup cans and some string.
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I've also called sprint this week to ask/complain about data speeds. The best I've ever had is around 1100 kbps down, but lateley it's only been 100 to 300. So a couple of days ago I went to a verizon store and asked the girl to compare speeds with me. She was getting 1900kdps down and my epic NEVER even found the nearest server. I was blown away and very red faced when I left. I could get better data speeds with two soup cans and some string.
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You know who else has 2 soup cans and a string? Mah maaammm!
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I gotta say the slow data speeds were killing me but now things have changed for the good. I hit my 4g icon by accident and now my data speeds fly! 5700kbps down and almost 1700kbps up....truely awesome!!!! Thanks Sprint!!!!
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Verizon 4G

All I have to say is Ouch! The entire 4G network is down (and some of their 3G too it seems), has been since last night, and no ETA for repair...
VZ users are probably still getting faster speeds than us though
Guess that depends on how fast their 1x is (It was slow as balls on my Eris...)
This is the 5th outage of its kind for them. The last one was just last week. Verizon's got the faster/superior network but obviously something's not right there. I hope they fix this once and for all, for the sake of those 70 million customers they rape with their nickel-and-diming
Well now verizon has sprint like 3 g speeds
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This is the 5th outage of its kind for them. The last one was just last week. Verizon's got the faster/superior network but obviously something's not right there. I hope they fix this once and for all, for the sake of those 70 million customers they rape with their nickel-and-diming
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They should be forced into taking those commercials about being superior, and most reliable.
Clearly a lie.
kindaskimpy said:
This is the 5th outage of its kind for them. The last one was just last week. Verizon's got the faster/superior network but obviously something's not right there. I hope they fix this once and for all, for the sake of those 70 million customers they rape with their nickel-and-diming
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Verizon easily has the most reliable network, I was with them for almost two years. Their 3G speeds easily beat our 4G speeds in actual use speed and I experienced one outage the whole time I was with them. I only left because they started throttling the "unlimited" data they sold me after just 2gb. Managed to get out of the ETF only after a bunch of complaints, including one with the attorney general's office.
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VZ users are probably still getting faster speeds than us though
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Post of the day. It made me smile
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Damn I must roam on verizon a lot my data coverage has been crap for the last 14 hours. Places where it is normally slow are showin no data at all for me.
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Verizon easily has the most reliable network, I was with them for almost two years. Their 3G speeds easily beat our 4G speeds in actual use speed and I experienced one outage the whole time I was with them. I only left because they started throttling the "unlimited" data they sold me after just 2gb. Managed to get out of the ETF only after a bunch of complaints, including one with the attorney general's office.
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Five nationwide outages in one calendar year is not reliable and as far as your comment of their 3g beating wimax speeds.... um no.
Not even in crappy wimax areas.
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Five nationwide outages in one calendar year is not reliable and as far as your comment of their 3g beating wimax speeds.... um no.
Not even in crappy wimax areas.
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Speaking from experience in my area. It is a simple fact that Verizon 3G beat my wimax speeds in Jax, FL.
I just tell it like it is, unlike some people, I don't have "allegiances" to corporations unless they are paying me. I will never get fanboyism. Have you ever even used Verizon lol?
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Im taking 5 outages in a year over 300 kb/s download speeds all day everyday
I'll take decent Sprint speeds with cheaper service anyday. Once Sprint gets their **** together, their speeds will be just as good if not better than Verizons on 3g. 4g is nice, but unless you are tethering it, it really doesn't make a difference when you are browsing the web on your phone.
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Speaking from experience in my area. It is a simple fact that Verizon 3G beat my wimax speeds in Jax, FL.
I just tell it like it is, unlike some people, I don't have "allegiances" to corporations unless they are paying me. I will never get fanboyism. Have you ever even used Verizon lol?
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Yes I have and it's not even close to as good as the commercials try to suggest it is.
Also, in the last speed tests released a few months ago the average 3g for Verizon was around 700k while the average Sprint wimax was either 6 or 8 mbps (can't remember which)
Not even close.
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Im taking 5 outages in a year over 300 kb/s download speeds all day everyday
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Unless you were actually subject to these outages, then it would be a different tune.
Obviously the speeds are just fine for you (or you're exaggerating) since you're still with Sprint even though you've been complaining about them even on the evo forums for a full year now.
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Yes I have and it's not even close to as good as the commercials try to suggest it is.
Also, in the last speed tests released a few months ago the average 3g for Verizon was around 700k while the average Sprint wimax was either 6 or 8 mbps (can't remember which)
Not even close.
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Speeds vary greatly depending on location, congestion, and capacity. In real world use, my 3G was noticeably faster on Verizon than my wimax is on Sprint. In addition, finding a spot where Verizon didn't have coverage was rare. It is unfortunate that they started throttling.
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Speeds vary greatly depending on location, congestion, and capacity.
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Hence the word average.
Beejis said:
I'll take decent Sprint speeds with cheaper service anyday. Once Sprint gets their **** together, their speeds will be just as good if not better than Verizons on 3g. 4g is nice, but unless you are tethering it, it really doesn't make a difference when you are browsing the web on your phone.
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Lmao, decent sprint speed? I love my phone but sprints network makes me miss T-Mobile on a daily basis... My 3G was just as fast as sprints 4G and that not even close to an exaggeration... Sprint network as a whole is abysmal and the only reason they beat out AT&T in customer satisfaction is because big blues customer service is worse then sprints network. If sprint was GSM I would take my ass back to magenta who I only left because I was afraid of the merger... That being said my phone makes me happy enough not to pay the etf and I only have good things to say about sprints customer service (from my experiences with them)
Rant over lol
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I was with Verizon for 2 years before the EVO 4G. Not a hitch, always had 4 or 5 bars, now i get 2 max with Sprint (same location). Speeds with Verizon were better too hands down. Sprint had their bad days where the internet would have made no difference if it were completely dead or producing less than 15kb/s. Unfortunately, i was stuck on those 15kb/s days in jersey. However, when i first switched to Sprint with the EVO 4g, data and signal were FLAWLESS. i honestly don't know what happened to Sprint now...

Thinking of switching...

I currently have Sprint as my carrier that now, and long story short, I can get out of this without ETF. How is the overall reception with T-mo and this phone? This phone is becoming more and more attractive phone for me as I keep researching it.
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So much better than sprint! I was with sprint for 10 years and have 2x the coverage now....love Tmobile compared to sprint..
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It depends on where you are. I just came from Verizon and I am very happy with T-mobile and my GS2. The coverage is not as wide spread as what I am used to but it works just as well or better most of the places I go to.
Holy crapolie dude, i recently switched from sprint to tmobi and it was the best thing i have ever done. On sprint i was getting max 600kbps 3g, no wimax ever in my area, on tm avg 12 but have maxed 18fmbs, thats freaking megabits yo.
Galaxy s2 on tm is ok, dumb processor is not as good as exynos but with a good rom and kernel its very good. I get better reception with tm over sprint even. Im in palm springs ca area. I run juggernaut 4.1 rom with faux123 kernel, very happy.
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Good to hear from switchers like me. I live in southeast Michigan near Ohio so coverage from Sprint can be spotty. As long as I can get even or better service without paying more, I'm willing to switch. My only fear is I'm switching my family into a worse carrier...how reliable is the coverage map on their website?
And regarding phone, I'm coming from an HTC and I'm getting tired of Sense. Haha.
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Ya, I switched my family of 5. It's nice not having to use a damn airave in my house just to get a signal. The map seems pretty accurate....do you know anyone in your area with Tmobile?
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u will like it, its better than sprint imo, atleast in my area it is.
Just switched from sprint this month.. Had the epic 4G. Tmobile
Speeds and service blow sprint out of the water.. I'm so happy I switched
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I had the Evo4g on sprint recently before this phone. Note my location because my experiences are because of that....
voice reception is so much better on t-mobile. I love being able to send texts on the subway underneath center city, something you can't dream on doing with sprint. When it comes to data..... T-mobile disappoints me. I NEED to use wifi in my house. My evo4g I had full 3g/4g signal. In the rest of the city I find so many data holes its ridiculous. When I do have a data signal I much prefer wimax over hspa. Note I don't have hspa+ service here for some god knows why reason.
If I had good coverage and service I'd love t-mobile and some areas have that but honestly if they don't improve in my area I'm going to terminate my contract when the next generation of phones are released.
I want hspa+ or LTE
I switched from Sprint to Tmo back in August. I was with Sprint for over a year, and from the first day I complained about NO service whatsoever in my own house. Sprint pretty much kept calling me a liar and that I had perfect service, even when I resorted to using my house phone just to make calls.
Then, in August last year, Sprint decided they wanted to up the Administrative Fee to $1.50 and, per their terms and conditions, I can NOT agree to it and have my ETFs waived, and so I did. In a last ditch effort, they decided that they could waive the charge for the Air Rave, after I had complained to them from day one about the dropped calls, and even asked for them to send me an Air Rave for free (which many people in the EVO forums had theirs for free), but at that point, the last nail was already in the coffin, and said my final goodbyes.
Originally got my wife and I both LG G2X's for free (last day they were free, online anyway). Then I added my friend on, got an SGS II for his line, and gave him my G2X. With the APN workaround, good coverage, all is smooth sailing over here in Tmo-land. =D
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Ya, I switched my family of 5. It's nice not having to use a damn airave in my house just to get a signal. The map seems pretty accurate....do you know anyone in your area with Tmobile?
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Nada, I've yet to hear from anyone who has T-Mobile. Areas where I live (Lambertville) seem to have a big coverage over the town with 4G. I'm going to take that as good news since my 3G speeds are crawling where I live on Sprint.
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u will like it, its better than sprint imo, atleast in my area it is.
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Yeah, definitely seems area dependent, but then again, so is Sprint and other carriers around Michigan.
starskyrob said:
Just switched from sprint this month.. Had the epic 4G. Tmobile
Speeds and service blow sprint out of the water.. I'm so happy I switched
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Mhm, HSPA+ blows anything out from other carriers IMO. I don't much care for LTE until battery life is similar or better than that on a HSPA+ enabled carrier.
jessejames111981 said:
I had the Evo4g on sprint recently before this phone. Note my location because my experiences are because of that....
voice reception is so much better on t-mobile. I love being able to send texts on the subway underneath center city, something you can't dream on doing with sprint. When it comes to data..... T-mobile disappoints me. I NEED to use wifi in my house. My evo4g I had full 3g/4g signal. In the rest of the city I find so many data holes its ridiculous. When I do have a data signal I much prefer wimax over hspa. Note I don't have hspa+ service here for some god knows why reason.
If I had good coverage and service I'd love t-mobile and some areas have that but honestly if they don't improve in my area I'm going to terminate my contract when the next generation of phones are released.
I want hspa+ or LTE
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This I can sort of relate with since I was in Philly for about a week or so. 3G speeds were always above 1.5Mbps and WiMax was even better. I really loved the speeds and if only Sprint had speeds I was getting in Philly around where I live...One can dream right?
Anyways, I think I'm dead set on moving my family to T-Mobile. What is this forum's opinion on the new Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G? If that's coming out soon, then I may just skip on this one and go for the slightly newer one...
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Anyways, I think I'm dead set on moving my family to T-Mobile. What is this forum's opinion on the new Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G? If that's coming out soon, then I may just skip on this one and go for the slightly newer one...
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for all we know the blaze could be a downgrade mid-range galaxy hspa+ phone. no setailed specs are released. Or it could be a 720p version of our phone.
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for all we know the blaze could be a downgrade mid-range galaxy hspa+ phone. no setailed specs are released. Or it could be a 720p version of our phone.
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So more or less the same thing that happened when T-MO released the Galaxy S 4G as opposed to upgrading the Vibrant? Eh, it probably isn't going to be worth the (extra) price and I'd rather snag this phone over it, since it already has an established development around it.
Why switch to tmobile now unless you have coverage problems tmobile starting to fail
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I can hook you up,
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Why switch to tmobile now unless you have coverage problems tmobile starting to fail
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T-mobile will be around for a long time but it may be called something else, remember voicestream, cingular?
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Why switch to tmobile now unless you have coverage problems tmobile starting to fail
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Hmm, I don't really see any concrete evidence T-Mobile is failing of some sort. With the recent merger deal falling out, it gives T-mo roaming agreements and extra money to expand coverage.
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I have tmobile, been with them ten years. I drive a truck cross country. I seem to always have some reception and at least 2g and great 4g close to metropolitan areas. I am constantly driving out into the middle of nowhere to load and unload. Just seems to work.
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I have tmobile, been with them ten years. I drive a truck cross country. I seem to always have some reception and at least 2g and great 4g close to metropolitan areas. I am constantly driving out into the middle of nowhere to load and unload. Just seems to work.
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Wow, that's awesome. Sprint more or less had 3G whenever our family took extended trips out into the expressways.
Haha, this is what happens when you're with Sprint for so long and do not understand the meaning of coverage or high speeds.
Tmo is better sprint is so horribaly slow
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So, I went with sprint because of the truly unlimited data plan, and this phone. I love my phone, I love the great development community we have, great ROMs. Everything about the phone is great. But I am extremely annoyed with Sprints data service. When I bought the phone I was aware there wasn't 4G in my area worth mentioning, I figured 3G would be fine. Well its not. Average speed test scores of 56 kbps. Abysmal. I had also assumed at some point, slowly the 4G would improve as they added towers. Now Sprint has decided to roll with LTE instead. Probably a smart choice but I feel like I have been screwed over. metro Detroit has some of the slowest 3G there is. So of sprint rolls out LYE this year are we gonna have to riot in the streets or do you think they plan to work with people contracted into WiMax phones?
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So, I went with sprint because of the truly unlimited data plan, and this phone. I love my phone, I love the great development community we have, great ROMs. Everything about the phone is great. But I am extremely annoyed with Sprints data service. When I bought the phone I was aware there wasn't 4G in my area worth mentioning, I figured 3G would be fine. Well its not. Average speed test scores of 56 kbps. Abysmal. I had also assumed at some point, slowly the 4G would improve as they added towers. Now Sprint has decided to roll with LTE instead. Probably a smart choice but I feel like I have been screwed over. metro Detroit has some of the slowest 3G there is. So of sprint rolls out LYE this year are we gonna have to riot in the streets or do you think they plan to work with people contracted into WiMax phones?
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Detroit did suck for 3g speeds while I was there over xmas. However Sprint going LTE could also help 3G users since the towers in general are being upgraded the 3G data speeds should also get better.
saw a few ppl in detroit today with increased speeds.. nv is coming.
I was going to mention the same thing. As the towers get upgrades to LTE they also should be getting capacity upgrades to help 3G as well.
One thing to remember is that this will take time. WiMax will not go away over night. Im sure they will support WiMax for 2-4 years from now. GIving everyone time to outgrow their current WiMax device and upgrade to a LTE device.
Well in Reno Nevada we've been waiting on 4g for months and my 3g is worse. Through out most of the city I get maybe 5-10 kbs. At one point I had about 30 but still that's ridiculous Ive also tried very close to several towers and still same speeds sprint sucks with their 3g and 4g. Verizon has it out here but unwanted true unlimited. We should riot in the streets
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my data speeds were crazy slow too, until i installed the FB series modems...1.5m down and 2 up!
OP give a corporate PRL and Roam Control a go.
Believe WiMax will be supported till 2015 if I remember the press release correctly.
I had this same complaint. But most people these days do not expect much (past two months) from tech companies anymore so don't expect any sympathy. look for my old thread.
I think we should be offered if not a return, at least an early upgrade to an lte phone.
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my 3g actually works better than wifi in the back of the house
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Believe WiMax will be supported till 2015 if I remember the press release correctly.
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I think this is correct because they have to allow for those who still buy wimax phones their 2 years of coverage
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I think this is correct because they have to allow for those who still buy wimax phones their 2 years of coverage
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that doesnt mean there gonna add wimax coverage
i also made a thread about this, sprints data service sucks all together I had verizon before and since my wife decided to switch us i hate my phone experience not because of the phone but the service

Verizon, T-mobile or AT&T

Hi all, I have a 2 year contract with Sprint, but I just cant take it anymore, I am planning on cancelling my contract and sign with another company, but I am not sure which one is the best (or less bad) for me in NYC.
Can anyone recommend one with good reception and real data (not the 30kbps 3G sprint has)
Thanks.
In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....
I am starting to think that my phone is broken, because on cloudy days I dont get reception inside buidings, I serious, I am having a bad experience with sprint
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Been hearing that we should be getting lte soon in NYC, but even then that is probably gonna be spotty at best...I had T-Mobile for a long time and never had any issues speed wise, and its fairly cheap, do some research on their new unlimited plan if you can't wait.
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30Glock said:
I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....
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Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.
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Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.
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Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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Having tried Att and Sprint....I got pretty $hitty coverage with both and this was living in the Bay Area.
For my previouscontract, I selected ATT based on reading the online reviews about them having absolute the fastest service. What the reviews didnt mention was that I couldnt get ATT service 10% of the time which got annoying real fast.
When it works...ATT and Sprint work great....but the 10% of the time you don't get connection, you'll wish you went with Verizon. They might be a tad slower based on the bandwidth test results online...but at least the coverage is more consistent
I will try changing modems, and see if I can get a better reception, thanks.
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Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?
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I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?
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Gsm carriers use a backhauled network capable of much faster speeds ....at least on speedtests
Sprint is implementing backhaul tech over the next year or so.
On 3g (hspa+) I have seen as much as 12mbps down but average 3-5 . This is on our att phones.
Funny thing is though side by side we did some comparisons last year and web pages actually loaded slower on attempt s2 vs sprint s2 .. we never really found an explanation.
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Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.
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Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.
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Great way to get out of this miserable non existing service.. In NYC I can get between 1-3 mbps, this is acceptable to me, however where I live sprint is unusable 12kb D/L up does not exist. I called to complain and their attitude was pay the 350 ETF and you can leave.....Well I'm leaving w/o paying this fee..Thank you Roam Control....
Put a post on the marketplace offering to let another user assume responsibility for the contract. I know i would have considered a cheap s3 that way earlier
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Sprint is actually getting better. With the softbank deal, Sprint controls a majority of the lte footprint. They are also getting an $8 billion cash infusion that will help them finish building out their lte footprint faster and at a higher quality. I know a few people that work for Sprint corporate. They have big plans and are actually executing those plans
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Will they be bringing service to places that do not have it (is western Washington)
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Personally i would toughen it out good things are to come for those who wait
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I'm near Baltimore and over the past 11 years have had Verizon, ATT, T-mo, and Sprint. Each provider had pros and cons. I eventually stuck with Sprint (6 years now). They are the most reliable and ever present. Not the fastest but the only time I've been without service is in the Shenandoah mountains south of us where there is no service coverage by anyone. Sprint has addressed every problem I've ever had as long as I was patient with the rep. Oh wait I was patient with the reps from every provider and they bent over backwards to help me. A Sprint rep have my wife an iPhone for $25 during her last upgrade. We presented then with a problem on our bill and they hooked us up with the phone and fixed the bill.
I don't think any service provider is going to be perfect in all situations. I myself would pick reliable over fastest speed.
Just my opinion but stick it out things are changing with Sprint.
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