Verizon 4G - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

All I have to say is Ouch! The entire 4G network is down (and some of their 3G too it seems), has been since last night, and no ETA for repair...

VZ users are probably still getting faster speeds than us though

Guess that depends on how fast their 1x is (It was slow as balls on my Eris...)

This is the 5th outage of its kind for them. The last one was just last week. Verizon's got the faster/superior network but obviously something's not right there. I hope they fix this once and for all, for the sake of those 70 million customers they rape with their nickel-and-diming

Well now verizon has sprint like 3 g speeds
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kindaskimpy said:
This is the 5th outage of its kind for them. The last one was just last week. Verizon's got the faster/superior network but obviously something's not right there. I hope they fix this once and for all, for the sake of those 70 million customers they rape with their nickel-and-diming
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They should be forced into taking those commercials about being superior, and most reliable.
Clearly a lie.

kindaskimpy said:
This is the 5th outage of its kind for them. The last one was just last week. Verizon's got the faster/superior network but obviously something's not right there. I hope they fix this once and for all, for the sake of those 70 million customers they rape with their nickel-and-diming
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Verizon easily has the most reliable network, I was with them for almost two years. Their 3G speeds easily beat our 4G speeds in actual use speed and I experienced one outage the whole time I was with them. I only left because they started throttling the "unlimited" data they sold me after just 2gb. Managed to get out of the ETF only after a bunch of complaints, including one with the attorney general's office.
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VZ users are probably still getting faster speeds than us though
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Post of the day. It made me smile
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Damn I must roam on verizon a lot my data coverage has been crap for the last 14 hours. Places where it is normally slow are showin no data at all for me.
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kingsway8605 said:
Verizon easily has the most reliable network, I was with them for almost two years. Their 3G speeds easily beat our 4G speeds in actual use speed and I experienced one outage the whole time I was with them. I only left because they started throttling the "unlimited" data they sold me after just 2gb. Managed to get out of the ETF only after a bunch of complaints, including one with the attorney general's office.
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Five nationwide outages in one calendar year is not reliable and as far as your comment of their 3g beating wimax speeds.... um no.
Not even in crappy wimax areas.

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Five nationwide outages in one calendar year is not reliable and as far as your comment of their 3g beating wimax speeds.... um no.
Not even in crappy wimax areas.
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Speaking from experience in my area. It is a simple fact that Verizon 3G beat my wimax speeds in Jax, FL.
I just tell it like it is, unlike some people, I don't have "allegiances" to corporations unless they are paying me. I will never get fanboyism. Have you ever even used Verizon lol?
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Im taking 5 outages in a year over 300 kb/s download speeds all day everyday

I'll take decent Sprint speeds with cheaper service anyday. Once Sprint gets their **** together, their speeds will be just as good if not better than Verizons on 3g. 4g is nice, but unless you are tethering it, it really doesn't make a difference when you are browsing the web on your phone.

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Speaking from experience in my area. It is a simple fact that Verizon 3G beat my wimax speeds in Jax, FL.
I just tell it like it is, unlike some people, I don't have "allegiances" to corporations unless they are paying me. I will never get fanboyism. Have you ever even used Verizon lol?
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Yes I have and it's not even close to as good as the commercials try to suggest it is.
Also, in the last speed tests released a few months ago the average 3g for Verizon was around 700k while the average Sprint wimax was either 6 or 8 mbps (can't remember which)
Not even close.
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Im taking 5 outages in a year over 300 kb/s download speeds all day everyday
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Unless you were actually subject to these outages, then it would be a different tune.
Obviously the speeds are just fine for you (or you're exaggerating) since you're still with Sprint even though you've been complaining about them even on the evo forums for a full year now.

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Yes I have and it's not even close to as good as the commercials try to suggest it is.
Also, in the last speed tests released a few months ago the average 3g for Verizon was around 700k while the average Sprint wimax was either 6 or 8 mbps (can't remember which)
Not even close.
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Speeds vary greatly depending on location, congestion, and capacity. In real world use, my 3G was noticeably faster on Verizon than my wimax is on Sprint. In addition, finding a spot where Verizon didn't have coverage was rare. It is unfortunate that they started throttling.
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Speeds vary greatly depending on location, congestion, and capacity.
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Hence the word average.

Beejis said:
I'll take decent Sprint speeds with cheaper service anyday. Once Sprint gets their **** together, their speeds will be just as good if not better than Verizons on 3g. 4g is nice, but unless you are tethering it, it really doesn't make a difference when you are browsing the web on your phone.
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Lmao, decent sprint speed? I love my phone but sprints network makes me miss T-Mobile on a daily basis... My 3G was just as fast as sprints 4G and that not even close to an exaggeration... Sprint network as a whole is abysmal and the only reason they beat out AT&T in customer satisfaction is because big blues customer service is worse then sprints network. If sprint was GSM I would take my ass back to magenta who I only left because I was afraid of the merger... That being said my phone makes me happy enough not to pay the etf and I only have good things to say about sprints customer service (from my experiences with them)
Rant over lol
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I was with Verizon for 2 years before the EVO 4G. Not a hitch, always had 4 or 5 bars, now i get 2 max with Sprint (same location). Speeds with Verizon were better too hands down. Sprint had their bad days where the internet would have made no difference if it were completely dead or producing less than 15kb/s. Unfortunately, i was stuck on those 15kb/s days in jersey. However, when i first switched to Sprint with the EVO 4g, data and signal were FLAWLESS. i honestly don't know what happened to Sprint now...

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What? Unlimited "won't" extend to LTE...

I was reading cnet and I came across this article. We all know by now about Sprint transitioning toward LTE, but what I didn't know according to cnet "Of course, this won’t extend to LTE, but offering unlimited 3G and WiMAX plans may be enough to keep many customers from jumping ship until Sprint’s a bit more competitive in the LTE market."
I thought we keep our unlimited data plan, after all I am paying $10 extra for the so called 4G, and when Sprints 4G speed catches up to all the other carriers, I have to switch to a capped plan?! I hope this is not true.
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/12/05/sprint-launch-lte-devices-2h-2012/?page=1
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprints-first-lte-handsets-coming-second-half-2012/2011-12-05
Article in OP seems out of context.
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprints-first-lte-handsets-coming-second-half-2012/2011-12-05
Article in OP seems out of context.
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I read this before, what caught my attention is that folks on 3G and "clearwire 4G" keep their unlimited plan. So if I want 4G LTE, I have to switch plans?
Maybe I'm a bit jaded, but i've learned to expect nothing in concessions or good will from Sprint. There is a clear movement toward penny pinching with current subscribers (fees, SERO) and crowd pleasing with new subscribers (iPhone, "unlimited" data... for a fee).
Who knows, maybe they parlay the current premium data fee into a double-premium data $20 fee for LTE devices, with a $10 admin fee. Probably not, but rewind two years and ask yourself if you'd expect them to do what they did in the last 6 quarters...
It will probably depend on the success of current spectrum deals and LTE rollout speed. Sprint's LTE on its own is not enough because they have only half the spectrum of Verizon. However, if Clearwire and Lightsquared successfully develop their LTE networks, then Sprint may still be able to offer unlimited 4G LTE to subscribers.
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It will probably depend on the success of current spectrum deals and LTE rollout speed. Sprint's LTE on its own is not enough because they have only half the spectrum of Verizon. However, if Clearwire and Lightsquared successfully develop their LTE networks, then Sprint may still be able to offer unlimited 4G LTE to subscribers.
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Hmm... ok. Well would it be worth it to stay with Sprint IF they limit data since Sprint's LTE is apparently only half of what Verizon has?
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niv3d said:
Hmm... ok. Well would it be worth it to stay with Sprint IF they limit data since Sprint's LTE is apparently only half of what Verizon has?
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If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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+1 for me also
Alex1x said:
I thought we keep our unlimited data plan, after all I am paying $10 extra for the so called 4G, and when Sprints 4G speed catches up to all the other carriers, I have to switch to a capped plan?! I hope this is not true.
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That is funny.. A while ago I was on the phone and I was *****ing at sprint in my most professional manner and I said that.. "I'm paying extra for this 4g that I can't even take advantage of because of my area" The lady was quick to correct me and call it the premium data package. I love how they change the wording to avoid issue.
I'm confident that I too wil be leaving sprint. My bill really isn't much cheaper than my friends who have Verizon or ATT. Pretty much what pushed me over the edge was when they got rid of my ability to upgrade every year and then also took away the 1 year contract. I'll more than likely buy whatever phone I want and never be held to a contract again but the value in me being able to get a new phone every year and sell my old one.. Well that was too good to pass up. With out that ability.. See ya.
One thing I found crazy is that Sprint has a deadline for when they expect to have their LTE deployment finished. That really makes me feel like where I live.. I will never see it. I doubt that they are still deploying WiMax and their 3G network is absolutely slooooowwwww.
If it were not for the Galaxy S II with a notification light I might not be with sprint now hahah.
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That is funny.. A while ago I was on the phone and I was *****ing at sprint in my most professional manner and I said that.. "I'm paying extra for this 4g that I can't even take advantage of because of my area" The lady was quick to correct me and call it the premium data package. I love how they change the wording to avoid issue.
I'm confident that I too wil be leaving sprint. My bill really isn't much cheaper than my friends who have Verizon or ATT. Pretty much what pushed me over the edge was when they got rid of my ability to upgrade every year and then also took away the 1 year contract. I'll more than likely buy whatever phone I want and never be held to a contract again but the value in me being able to get a new phone every year and sell my old one.. Well that was too good to pass up. With out that ability.. See ya.
One thing I found crazy is that Sprint has a deadline for when they expect to have their LTE deployment finished. That really makes me feel like where I live.. I will never see it. I doubt that they are still deploying WiMax and their 3G network is absolutely slooooowwwww.
If it were not for the Galaxy S II with a notification light I might not be with sprint now hahah.
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I too am switching...this Thursday or Friday when the galaxy nexus arrives. I'm going to take advantage of Verizon's awesome service in my area, that's almost 2mbps 3g and over 20mbps lte, my employer discount of 19 percent, double data promotion and the Google supported galaxy nexus.
Coming from sprints 200 kbps 3g speeds here and no 4g, this is gonna be a hell of an upgrade.
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Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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Well said.
Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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Same for me
I've been waiting for 3G to be fixed in Milwaukee since 2009 when I had the Hero. Every month I get a new excuse that they're upgrading the towers in my area later on in the month.
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I really wish that the people leaving would stop threatening it and just do it.
These idle threats have been going on since January on XDA.
Leave. Please, so we can get back to actual discussions about android and developing etc instead of whining about a problem with a simple solution to no end.
Err0rist said:
I've been waiting for 3G to be fixed in Milwaukee since 2009 when I had the Hero. Every month I get a new excuse that they're upgrading the towers in my area later on in the month.
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Data here in Wauwatosa is sometimes fast, sometimes slow. Just sitting in my house, I can go from 150KBps (kiloBYTES) to 5KBps in the same evening from one day to the next at the same general time.
However, when I'm in Chicago, Sprint has far better data speeds than my co-workers who are on Verizon.
So weird.
To clear up one misconception: we're not paying the $10 for 4G. Sprint stopped claiming that early on. It's on all premium phones, even the ones that don't support 4G. They claim it's a premium for premium phones which are more likely to use the network more heavily. No tie directly to 4G at all anymore.
Dalmus said:
Data here in Wauwatosa is sometimes fast, sometimes slow. Just sitting in my house, I can go from 150KBps (kiloBYTES) to 5KBps in the same evening from one day to the next at the same general time.
However, when I'm in Chicago, Sprint has far better data speeds than my co-workers who are on Verizon.
So weird.
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Anecdotal speed test conducted today at a Chicago area Starbucks:
My ET4G w/ EK02 modem: 4 megabit down
Friend's Thunderbolt LTE CM7: 17 megabit down
We ended up tethering my phone off his device so he can play around with it and render a few commonly visited webpages to "experience" dual core/1gb ram.
He's gonna buy the Nexus Prime off-contract next week D:
I always forget about 4g, since we don't (officially) have it in the Milwaukee area.
The one unofficial 4g tower I'm ever around (near the airport) gives me about 12mbit. Of course, in that area I pull almost 2mbit on 3g there...
I know the sprint 4g towers have a very short range... Once I get more than a mile away from the 4g, the speeds drop dramatically fast. Knowing Sprint, they probably have just four towers covering all of Chicago.
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I never see anything over 250 kpbs at home, sometimes it's lower than 30 kbps. I can't drive and stream music or even watch youtube videos on 3G. When I had my hero (2009) I was getting 1.3mbps constant.There's no way they've been working on the towers for over a year with no results. We're paying for 3G and 4G and not getting either.
There's a rumor on the sprint forum that sprint sold half of their towers to cricket mobile.
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Here's how I honestly read this article:
Yadda yadda yadda... yadda yadda yadda...
....yadda yadda yadda...
....yadda yadda yadda...
nothing new here at all...
...same ol' stuff we've been talking about for several months....yadda yadda yadda...
...yadda yadda yadda.... unsubstantiated claim with absolutely no evidence and in fact evidence to the contrary likely put in the article to cause drama and increase viewership...yadda yadda yadda...
end.
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Epic No G touch.

So, I went with sprint because of the truly unlimited data plan, and this phone. I love my phone, I love the great development community we have, great ROMs. Everything about the phone is great. But I am extremely annoyed with Sprints data service. When I bought the phone I was aware there wasn't 4G in my area worth mentioning, I figured 3G would be fine. Well its not. Average speed test scores of 56 kbps. Abysmal. I had also assumed at some point, slowly the 4G would improve as they added towers. Now Sprint has decided to roll with LTE instead. Probably a smart choice but I feel like I have been screwed over. metro Detroit has some of the slowest 3G there is. So of sprint rolls out LYE this year are we gonna have to riot in the streets or do you think they plan to work with people contracted into WiMax phones?
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cknuth said:
So, I went with sprint because of the truly unlimited data plan, and this phone. I love my phone, I love the great development community we have, great ROMs. Everything about the phone is great. But I am extremely annoyed with Sprints data service. When I bought the phone I was aware there wasn't 4G in my area worth mentioning, I figured 3G would be fine. Well its not. Average speed test scores of 56 kbps. Abysmal. I had also assumed at some point, slowly the 4G would improve as they added towers. Now Sprint has decided to roll with LTE instead. Probably a smart choice but I feel like I have been screwed over. metro Detroit has some of the slowest 3G there is. So of sprint rolls out LYE this year are we gonna have to riot in the streets or do you think they plan to work with people contracted into WiMax phones?
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Detroit did suck for 3g speeds while I was there over xmas. However Sprint going LTE could also help 3G users since the towers in general are being upgraded the 3G data speeds should also get better.
saw a few ppl in detroit today with increased speeds.. nv is coming.
I was going to mention the same thing. As the towers get upgrades to LTE they also should be getting capacity upgrades to help 3G as well.
One thing to remember is that this will take time. WiMax will not go away over night. Im sure they will support WiMax for 2-4 years from now. GIving everyone time to outgrow their current WiMax device and upgrade to a LTE device.
Well in Reno Nevada we've been waiting on 4g for months and my 3g is worse. Through out most of the city I get maybe 5-10 kbs. At one point I had about 30 but still that's ridiculous Ive also tried very close to several towers and still same speeds sprint sucks with their 3g and 4g. Verizon has it out here but unwanted true unlimited. We should riot in the streets
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my data speeds were crazy slow too, until i installed the FB series modems...1.5m down and 2 up!
OP give a corporate PRL and Roam Control a go.
Believe WiMax will be supported till 2015 if I remember the press release correctly.
I had this same complaint. But most people these days do not expect much (past two months) from tech companies anymore so don't expect any sympathy. look for my old thread.
I think we should be offered if not a return, at least an early upgrade to an lte phone.
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1-1.5mb in royal oak
my 3g actually works better than wifi in the back of the house
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Believe WiMax will be supported till 2015 if I remember the press release correctly.
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I think this is correct because they have to allow for those who still buy wimax phones their 2 years of coverage
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I think this is correct because they have to allow for those who still buy wimax phones their 2 years of coverage
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that doesnt mean there gonna add wimax coverage
i also made a thread about this, sprints data service sucks all together I had verizon before and since my wife decided to switch us i hate my phone experience not because of the phone but the service

Pathetic 3g speeds

No wonder Sprint is so cheap
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Agreed. These are my 3G speeds:
This is Sprint's so called "3G". There's really no point of unlimited data when Sprint's 3G is basically already throttled the whole time.
Even though I think their "3G" is so bad, I still don't switch to another carrier since Sprint has Unlimited data. I still don't switch despite the fact that those carriers (ATT, Verizon, T-Mo) have prepaid plans that are half the price Sprint. Oh, and did I mention those plans have data limits that are higher than the actual carrier plans?
But nah, I'm not gonna switch to prepaid even though it would be so logical.
(This post isn't serious. Instead, it's basically how I interpret people's posts complaining about Sprint's 3G. If you don't like it, switch carriers...)
Oh I totally agree I have no plans on switching I've been with Sprint for 3 years and am just hoping they improve their network to something more acceptable
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if i wasn't on a family plan with people in an area where it works better, i would have left. I get the same speeds as the OP. The thing is, in the exact same area 2 years ago, the speeds were great.
My speeds all 3g except a few wifi
The ones with abismal speeds were then ones with no bars
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r u fukn kidding me?!
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Agreed. These are my 3G speeds:
This is Sprint's so called "3G". There's really no point of unlimited data when Sprint's 3G is basically already throttled the whole time.
Even though I think their "3G" is so bad, I still don't switch to another carrier since Sprint has Unlimited data. I still don't switch despite the fact that those carriers (ATT, Verizon, T-Mo) have prepaid plans that are half the price Sprint. Oh, and did I mention those plans have data limits that are higher than the actual carrier plans?
But nah, I'm not gonna switch to prepaid even though it would be so logical.
(This post isn't serious. Instead, it's basically how I interpret people's posts complaining about Sprint's 3G. If you don't like it, switch carriers...)
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1x!? i would give my left nut to get that on 3g. i'm lucky
to get half that speed. and when i do its a very rare occasion. sprint better blow the roof off with this lte ****. this beautiful phone is going to waste being crippled like this
Their 3G speeds are okay for me like I like it because when I'm out side of the house it takes about 3 secs for a page to load which is impressive to me and at least you got some data connection I rarely use 3G to surf the web but try updating ur PRL to get your 3G speed and more to the latest and fastest version
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Yeah 3g is getting better.
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Agreed. These are my 3G speeds:
This is Sprint's so called "3G". There's really no point of unlimited data when Sprint's 3G is basically already throttled the whole time.
Even though I think their "3G" is so bad, I still don't switch to another carrier since Sprint has Unlimited data. I still don't switch despite the fact that those carriers (ATT, Verizon, T-Mo) have prepaid plans that are half the price Sprint. Oh, and did I mention those plans have data limits that are higher than the actual carrier plans?
But nah, I'm not gonna switch to prepaid even though it would be so logical.
(This post isn't serious. Instead, it's basically how I interpret people's posts complaining about Sprint's 3G. If you don't like it, switch carriers...)
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Is that roaming on Verizon's network?
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if i wasn't on a family plan with people in an area where it works better, i would have left. I get the same speeds as the OP. The thing is, in the exact same area 2 years ago, the speeds were great.
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Yeah same here just a few years ago the speeds were pretty good but we'll see what the future holds I think their network will pick up with all the upgrades they have planned
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Here's my 3G Speed early one Sunday morning in nyc.
Realize it gets as slow as 10% of that download speed during peak times. Quiet morning.
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Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
Is the horse dead yet??
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Is the horse dead yet??
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It's been beaten long enough
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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100% Sprint. It's what I usually get around my home area. 1000-150kbps throughout the day, 1500-1900kbps at night.
The thing is, I live in a suburban area so the towers aren't used as much. I'm willing to bet that throughout the day there are only like 4 or 5 other people connected to data that actually use their data.
Here's my 3g speed, guess I'm lucky.
I've noticed a few times when I have crappy data speeds. My phone was showing 3g in the status bar, but if I went to SettIngs-->About Device--> Status the phone was actually connected at 1x not 3g. Not sure why it doesn't show 1x in the notification bar.
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I'm with T-Mobile on the one s, my buddy had the sprint Sammy s3 next to mine, though the speed test said mine was smoking fast the Sammy was faster for the user experience, for simple browsing . I'm gonna switch to sprint and get the sgs3
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Here's my 3G Speed early one Sunday morning in nyc.
Realize it gets as slow as 10% of that download speed during peak times. Quiet morning.
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I'm in S.I., and I never see those speeds even on a Sunday morning.
mardukeme said:
Here's my 3g speed, guess I'm lucky.
I've noticed a few times when I have crappy data speeds. My phone was showing 3g in the status bar, but if I went to SettIngs-->About Device--> Status the phone was actually connected at 1x not 3g. Not sure why it doesn't show 1x in the notification bar.
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Unless you are rooted and running a custom Rom that is capable of displaying 1x, the stock Sprint Rom will always show 3g.
I suppose my area has something to do with my 3g speeds I live near Cincinnati and I'm sure the towers are over loaded
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Sprint 3G finally improving?

So I have been horribly frustrated with sprints 3G speeds since I got my epic. I live in metro Detroit. (Fairly large sprint market) and have averaged around 50-75kbps DL. With a 600ms+ ping. And there is ZERO wimax anywhere. I was getting fed up. Until over the last month or so I have seen 600%+ increase in speeds. I now average closer to 500kbps DL with a 111ping. And I have even had consistent tests of 1mb DL. Could this be the first fruits of network vision? Or other tower upgrades? Or somehow less traffic. I had considered it could be the newer ROM/modem. (CM10/FH13). Has anyone else seen recent speed increases?
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So I have been horribly frustrated with sprints 3G speeds since I got my epic. I live in metro Detroit. (Fairly large sprint market) and have averaged around 50-75kbps DL. With a 600ms+ ping. And there is ZERO wimax anywhere. I was getting fed up. Until over the last month or so I have seen 600%+ increase in speeds. I now average closer to 500kbps DL with a 111ping. And I have even had consistent tests of 1mb DL. Could this be the first fruits of network vision? Or other tower upgrades? Or somehow less traffic. I had considered it could be the newer ROM/modem. (CM10/FH13). Has anyone else seen recent speed increases?
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yeah man here in st pete i finally saw a consistent 1 meg down and i was inside ( but near a window) the network map said theres about to be another speed increase here its usually a lie tho.... i doubt its anything permanent sprint fails im moving to straight talk once its all over but im supposed to have lte in my area at the end of my contract and i got employee plan pricing if i have lte at my house then ill keep them if not oh well. could network vision not just be a giant false marketing scheme?
edit well i just did a speed test and im back to the usual 300kbs lol lucky i pay a dial up price and get dial up service XD so i guess not. sprints the most useless unlimited ever. Even living in a wimax area the wimax sucks everywhere but the beach. ( where i dont even need wimax)
I have 5+ months horrible experience with Sprint 3G speed after last two days on roaming service came back this morning better than ever from 0.09Mbps download to 0.89Mbps download huge improvement sadly it last till this evening when service cut off came back horrible as always. :banghead:
At least I know they are working on it.
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Whatever spring says "network vision" is. Clearly they are trying to or want to improve their service. One area they are strong, customer service. But their tech(except phones) sucks. So the question for me is, just like the first guy who replied. Is if they can get LTE working by the time my contract is up. Or at least get 3g solidly above 1mb.. then I would stay no question.
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Whatever spring says "network vision" is. Clearly they are trying to or want to improve their service. One area they are strong, customer service. But their tech(except phones) sucks. So the question for me is, just like the first guy who replied. Is if they can get LTE working by the time my contract is up. Or at least get 3g solidly above 1mb.. then I would stay no question.
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+1, I have 1 year left on my contract. Next July I will re-evaluate sprint and see how things are going. If sprint stepped up to the plate then bonus I will stay but if its the same ol song and dance crap I am gone. Maybe this xmas I will do that re-evaluate of sprint and see what is up and just maybe I might buy off the rest of my contract, pay a etf and jump ship. But having to pay a extra 10 bucks a month just because of a smart phone crap aka 4g is bull**** considering sprint does not have wimax, 4g, lte or what ever here where I live and 3g is absolutly slower than dial up modem speeds.
Well Sprint Vision says that in the next 6 months a tower will basically be put in my backyard, according to their map. My contract is up in 12 months, I'll make a decision then.
I get 8kb/s out here in Toledo....
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Mine has picked up in some areas the past few weeks but its still crap in other areas and at random times. Its also still much slower than 3G from any other carrier. My Sprint 3G speeds are often similar to Tmobile Edge speeds I had 4 years ago but Edge was more consistent.
Every week my 3G speed changes, today I am getting less than 100kbps when last week or so I was getting almost 600. I am hoping this is due to them upgrading the towers and that is causing the inconsistencies.
Are you using updated maps to see this info or are you just using the maps on Sprint's website?
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So I have been horribly frustrated with sprints 3G speeds since I got my epic. I live in metro Detroit. (Fairly large sprint market) and have averaged around 50-75kbps DL. With a 600ms+ ping. And there is ZERO wimax anywhere. I was getting fed up. Until over the last month or so I have seen 600%+ increase in speeds. I now average closer to 500kbps DL with a 111ping. And I have even had consistent tests of 1mb DL. Could this be the first fruits of network vision? Or other tower upgrades? Or somehow less traffic. I had considered it could be the newer ROM/modem. (CM10/FH13). Has anyone else seen recent speed increases?
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Pretty sure they've actually, finally, started work on Network Vision for our area.
We're supposed to be apart of the network vision plan for the second half of 2012.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
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Pretty sure they've actually, finally, started work on Network Vision for our area.
We're supposed to be apart of the network vision plan for the second half of 2012.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
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If they do manage to get LTE going by next summer I'll for sure stick around. Prolly with the 2nd nexus device if possible.
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If they do manage to get LTE going by next summer I'll for sure stick around. Prolly with the 2nd nexus device if possible.
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I practically guarantee they will by then.
Personally I'm more concerned about getting 3g speeds in the 1.5 - 3 mbps range and the improved service that comes with Network Vision.
Really couldn't care less for LTE/Wimax with that. :silly:
Same crappy speed here.
metro Detroit here too, and I haven't noticed any increase. For some reason my phone now roams constantly. Hopefully not so much that they terminate my contract and force me to jump on T-Mobiles new deal.
3G still sucks here ...
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metro Detroit here too, and I haven't noticed any increase. For some reason my phone now roams constantly. Hopefully not so much that they terminate my contract and force me to jump on T-Mobiles new deal.
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My friends from the bay area (California) started roaming when their towers were being upgraded so it could be a could sign. Here S4GRU website says you guys are should be upgraded soon:
S4GRU Detriot
I'm only with them for the price an unlimited...
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I'm only with them for the price an unlimited...
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That's what I'm saying. I'll stick it out for the prospect of unlimited 4g...
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Metro Detroit here as well... Get the FH13 modem, you won't be disappointed
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Verizon, T-mobile or AT&T

Hi all, I have a 2 year contract with Sprint, but I just cant take it anymore, I am planning on cancelling my contract and sign with another company, but I am not sure which one is the best (or less bad) for me in NYC.
Can anyone recommend one with good reception and real data (not the 30kbps 3G sprint has)
Thanks.
In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....
I am starting to think that my phone is broken, because on cloudy days I dont get reception inside buidings, I serious, I am having a bad experience with sprint
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Been hearing that we should be getting lte soon in NYC, but even then that is probably gonna be spotty at best...I had T-Mobile for a long time and never had any issues speed wise, and its fairly cheap, do some research on their new unlimited plan if you can't wait.
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30Glock said:
I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....
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Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.
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Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.
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Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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Having tried Att and Sprint....I got pretty $hitty coverage with both and this was living in the Bay Area.
For my previouscontract, I selected ATT based on reading the online reviews about them having absolute the fastest service. What the reviews didnt mention was that I couldnt get ATT service 10% of the time which got annoying real fast.
When it works...ATT and Sprint work great....but the 10% of the time you don't get connection, you'll wish you went with Verizon. They might be a tad slower based on the bandwidth test results online...but at least the coverage is more consistent
I will try changing modems, and see if I can get a better reception, thanks.
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Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?
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I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?
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Gsm carriers use a backhauled network capable of much faster speeds ....at least on speedtests
Sprint is implementing backhaul tech over the next year or so.
On 3g (hspa+) I have seen as much as 12mbps down but average 3-5 . This is on our att phones.
Funny thing is though side by side we did some comparisons last year and web pages actually loaded slower on attempt s2 vs sprint s2 .. we never really found an explanation.
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Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.
88EVGAFTW said:
Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.
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Great way to get out of this miserable non existing service.. In NYC I can get between 1-3 mbps, this is acceptable to me, however where I live sprint is unusable 12kb D/L up does not exist. I called to complain and their attitude was pay the 350 ETF and you can leave.....Well I'm leaving w/o paying this fee..Thank you Roam Control....
Put a post on the marketplace offering to let another user assume responsibility for the contract. I know i would have considered a cheap s3 that way earlier
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Sprint is actually getting better. With the softbank deal, Sprint controls a majority of the lte footprint. They are also getting an $8 billion cash infusion that will help them finish building out their lte footprint faster and at a higher quality. I know a few people that work for Sprint corporate. They have big plans and are actually executing those plans
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Will they be bringing service to places that do not have it (is western Washington)
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Personally i would toughen it out good things are to come for those who wait
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I'm near Baltimore and over the past 11 years have had Verizon, ATT, T-mo, and Sprint. Each provider had pros and cons. I eventually stuck with Sprint (6 years now). They are the most reliable and ever present. Not the fastest but the only time I've been without service is in the Shenandoah mountains south of us where there is no service coverage by anyone. Sprint has addressed every problem I've ever had as long as I was patient with the rep. Oh wait I was patient with the reps from every provider and they bent over backwards to help me. A Sprint rep have my wife an iPhone for $25 during her last upgrade. We presented then with a problem on our bill and they hooked us up with the phone and fixed the bill.
I don't think any service provider is going to be perfect in all situations. I myself would pick reliable over fastest speed.
Just my opinion but stick it out things are changing with Sprint.
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