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Title basically says it all. If you are eligible for an upgrade, what phone would you get and why?
The new samsung galaxy s3 because i think the performance of the new exynos quad core processor would be great......like the old exynos on the galaxy s2
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I would also go for the Samsung Galaxy S 3. However, I would like to have a Rezound until then
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Galaxy Nexus for me. Hackability, perfect size, Nexus!
Owning a rebound I can tell you it is a great device. But the battery life is not the best, about 9 hrs moderate use ( the extended battery helps a lot but is bulky). The American version of the galaxy S3 will not have a quad core so I would recommend the rezound or nexus. Both great devices obviously the rezound has sense which I love but if your not into then the nexus would be your best bet.
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Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
I still wouldn't mind Galaxy Journal. Shame it's being released so late
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Inc4g lte if it has the same camera tech as the one series.
Amphibliam said:
Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
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I actually agree with what you say. The next phone I'm getting is most likely a Nexus (assuming Samsung is making it of course) unless Verizon screws us over and ditches the next Nexus. Otherwise I'm going with a GSIII or the iPhone.
"All of those bacon strips"
gsm nexus, or iphone. i can't stand the Android skins.
What would be even better it's if HTC got the next nexus device. Rumor is they were talking to google about it for jelly bean.
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if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
Nit you pretty much summed up my thoughts on the Inc4G. I'd like to see what official cost is and if it's not too bad I may try and score one off contract. I was finding Nexus and Rezounds going for 200-300 on ebay barely used.
I'd skip the Nexus because honestly it seems like it's been pretty lackluster compared to expectations people had for it. I also am not a fan of the whole ICS Holo theme which is why I'm so drawn to Sense4.
SGIII did absolutely nothing for me. The press conference was boring and it looks like just another run of the mill Galaxy phone. Touchwiz is also horrid and really ugly.
nitsuj17 said:
if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
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100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
andybones said:
100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
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Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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jman42028 said:
well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
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The OG Incredible was my first Android too! It was the perfect intro to Android. I had the original Samsung AMOLED screen, which was much nicer than the SLCD version (imho) so it was gorgeous, and was easy to root. I flashed so many roms on that phone. I'm really surprised I didn't wear out the nand chip. I traded that phone for a Fascinate, with which I had a love-hate relationship. That's where I really learned how to use ADB. I won an LG Revolution from Phone Arena a couple months later, which was okay, but the way that phone was coded together, it was impossible to do anything with it. Plus, is was LTE, so it didn't have working AOSP. No devs ever got the phone, so its development situation was a little lacking. I traded it for my DInc2 about a month after I got it and I've had this phone since August. I've been so much happier having an HTC again. After Sammy and LG, I've been confirmed in my OEM of choice. It's not like Moto is going to sway me. Haha
I pre-ordered the Evo LTE yesterday, as I'm jumping to Sprint. I got bumped off my contract by family because they wouldn't give me the billing account password after they changed it, so I couldn't pay my bill over the phone anymore. They told me I had to drive down 45 minutes every month to pay them, which I couldn't do because I had lost my car in an accident that wasn't even my fault. It sucked. I lost my unlimited data plan.
If I were still on Verizon, I'd be jumping for joy that the Inc4G is a One S variant. The One S outperforms the S4 version of the One X a bit because it's qHD, not 720p. Plus, 4" is the perfect screen size. I don't think I'm gonna like the 4.7" screen on the Evo LTE at first. I'll get used to it, but damn that's a huge phone.
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hoodieNation said:
Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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i wouldnt use an upgrade on a 6/7 month old phone running an older s3 processor...but thats me
Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
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Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
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well thats point, i wont buy something thats already older and tie myself for 20 months to it
and the thing with sense devices is that they historically a wasteland for dev support when another huge one comes out...so id bet you ll loose most of the rezound developers come the fall if verizon launches something that much better
now thats not to say other (new) devs wont step in, like the og inc and evo 4g saw...but stll
buy what you want obviously, but thats my take on things
Hi,
I have been thinking about getting the i747 model of the S3? is there any widespread issues I should no about before I make the leap?
Screen breaks easy :/
Phone gets hot quite often...
Make sure you like the size you get used to it. I jumped from 3" to 4.8"
Overall it is the best phone on the market and regardless it's a good decision.
tehsprayer said:
Screen breaks easy :/
Phone gets hot quite often...
Make sure you like the size you get used to it. I jumped from 3" to 4.8"
Overall it is the best phone on the market and regardless it's a good decision.
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i've been deciding whether i should get a international or us version... The only thing that stands out for me with the US version is 2GB of ram..
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i've been deciding whether i should get a international or us version... The only thing that stands out for me with the US version is 2GB of ram..
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US, versions are way better unless you play video games, you wont want the internation phone, also over heating isnt a issue at all i have mine overclock to 1800mhz and the phone wont go pass 40c at all. And with the US version you get lte which is a pretty big deal to me
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US, versions are way better unless you play video games, you wont want the internation phone, also over heating isnt a issue at all i have mine overclock to 1800mhz and the phone wont go pass 40c at all. And with the US version you get lte which is a pretty big deal to me
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Played everything i have thrown at it flawlessly, and the extra ram is nice, not sure if the int. version is still having redraw issues, but I never had on the US.
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Andrew149 said:
US, versions are way better unless you play video games, you wont want the internation phone, also over heating isnt a issue at all i have mine overclock to 1800mhz and the phone wont go pass 40c at all. And with the US version you get lte which is a pretty big deal to me
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My carrier doesnt support LTE haha. A big decision factor on both for me is dev support , the us versions dont get nearly as much dev support as the international ones.
Brushed Metal ring cracks easily, look closely you will see the cracks
"I feel like I'm gonna break this thing..."
The screen is beautiful, the phone is jam-packed with features and hardware, and if you stay stock Samsung's TouchWiz has some pretty cool features.
I'd get the US over the International for your network's flavor of 4G + 2GB Ram, unless you can acquire a Korean handset. Quad-core with 2GB of RAM and I believe 800 MHz LTE support which is currently useless but I believe Sprint has their eyes on that spectrum for future expansion.
Oh, and it's really thin, has a huge screen, almost no bezel, comes in sweet colors (like red) and I recommend a case.
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"I feel like I'm gonna break this thing..."
The screen is beautiful, the phone is jam-packed with features and hardware, and if you stay stock Samsung's TouchWiz has some pretty cool features.
I'd get the US over the International for your network's flavor of 4G + 2GB Ram, unless you can acquire a Korean handset. Quad-core with 2GB of RAM and I believe 800 MHz LTE support which is currently useless but I believe Sprint has their eyes on that spectrum for future expansion.
Oh, and it's really thin, has a huge screen, almost no bezel, comes in sweet colors (like red) and I recommend a case.
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My carrier does not support 4G LTE yet btw. Would you still choose the US version in that case?
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My carrier does not support 4G LTE yet btw. Would you still choose the US version in that case?
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If your carriers don't support LTE, then you can just get international version.
I too am trying to decide if I should upgrade from my skurocket or not. What more does the s3 offer....art version u.s.
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Hey guys I'm not developer level or anything but here are a few things from my last almost three days with the phone
Good:
Great support.
Easy to root.
Safe failsafe comes with the phone (Odin). It's samsung not motorola so the bootstrapper isn't locked and is 'made to mod'
Great battery- got one day+ out of it doing heavy stuff, syncing high quality audacity files over 4g
Sick screen, processor
Lots of roms and kernels
Bad: A lot of the roms just came out. Aside from AKOP and Nostalgia (stock withouth the bloat) people are having different issues from wifi drain, 4g lte not working, (look up my name to see some of these)
For me- the form factor. The phone is VERY thin VERY wide and PRETTY LONG.. It's hard to grip if you use it to say play music while running. Basically you'd have a stronger grip if you gripped the phone with the screen facing the palm of your hands. The back end is almost frictionless. Again easy to fall, easy to slip out of pocket/bookbag, will bounce around in your pocket and not feel it when it falls out of your bag etc.. It will take getting used to.
Another thing that showed poor thought in the physical design. I have a white phone and didn't notice the menu and back buttons because...they too are white. Meld in perfectly.
Charge time- Charge Could take 3+ hours using a 'fast' high AMp charger off of Amazon. I will try with Samsung's stock charger.
A ton of roms, different version of the phone, and mods keep shooting down threads about battery life etc. I say shut off airplane mode and leave on wifi to see which kernels/governors give best battery life. There's so much customizability that its sort of a bad things.
I haven't played around with it on my JB Rom but on ICS you can't transfer the apps and music files from say spotify to your external card. No matter how quickly internal memory is accessed, for backup and movability purposes that is a huge no no for me and a lot of other people.
Not so much with thep hone but with the carriers. You can't simply flash a lot of the models by entering an unlock code, you usally need a non-carrier network SIM to get the dialogue to pop up, at least on stock/nostalgia.
One big issue that is being reported as irreversable is an IMEI modification. That is like the MAC address for your computer. Hopefully no one dealswiht that
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asjdwf said:
I too am trying to decide if I should upgrade from my skurocket or not. What more does the s3 offer....art version u.s.
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better battery life than the skyrocket by far.
With my skyrocket I had 3 batteries (2 spares) and it would be very rare if I only had to swap out once in a day.
Had my gs3 for a few days now and it can last me almost half a day.
Mind you I use my phone basically 24/7.. I still bought two spare batteries but don't think I'll be swapping out as often
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Hi guys,
I am in dilema between keeping the HOX International or waiting for the HOX+ that is coming up shortly. I really like the form factor and the design of the One X series. I abandoned my "religion" in iOS just to convert to Android for my sake.
As we all know that the HOX+ is slightly better than the HOX S720e (more battery and CPU is a bit faster). However, if they both run on JB, do the new changes make any different?
I also hesitate to deal with the defective hardwares of the original HOX. I have checked it carefully, but I am not sure if other issues will come later. I am using it on Straight Talk and love the service. I haven't experienced any slow down during the peak time in Minnesota.
Please help me to weight my decision. Thank you
I really don't think there is going to be a lot of difference between them in real world usage.
Might be worth waiting for the +, and then buying the 'standard' one as the price is bound to take a dive.
Depends if you want a white phone as the One X+ only comes in black (booo!!). There isn't a lot of difference but the increase in battery might be worth a go...
If i were you i would definitely go for HOX+, but it aint worth the price difference.(approx 200$ without packages)
Im actually thinking of exchanging my HOX for HOX+ (dont tell anyone)
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Vcek said:
If i were you i would definitely go for HOX+, but it aint worth the price difference.(approx 200$ without packages)
Im actually thinking of exchanging my HOX for HOX+ (dont tell anyone)
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I have ordered X+, is new, is Super Quick, is JB and maybe all teething cured.
X+ would definitely be the better phone, if only for the bigger battery and better front camera. But I doubt that developers will buy yet another iterative phone to develop on.
I would wait only if you need LTE and the band is right for your network.
Kinda surprised the One X+ isn't LTE but as there is the One XL I'm not surprised
Hey guys, I am intrested in purchasing the HOX depending on how good the updates for the One X are.
*I wanted to know what is the camera like with the 4.1 update or even better still jelly bean
*Also has the video recording frame rate been improved over the rather dull 24fps.
*Finally the battery life how does it fair now with the updates
I was considering the HOX+ but I am concerned about the audio not being as good as or as loud as the orginal HOX for some reason and also I really like the White HOX but things that do appeal to me in the HOX+ are the 64gb memory considering the HOX has 26gb user availble and on my S3 my 32gb card has more than that, plus the built in storage aswell.
Also the fact the battery is bigger on the HOX+ and it uses a slightly newer version of the processor.
Despite this the price of the HOX is tempting as it is £380 on amazon or expansys while the HOX+ is £474 at Clove
wait for the HOX+ . much faster ang more battery.
If I was buying a new phone now, I would probably choose the One X+. But you have to remember that the original One X is likely to get cheaper when the One X+ is released. And to be honest, the real world difference between the One X and the One X+ is really minimal. Maybe the biggest advantage over the original One X is the LTE support but this is only relevant, if you live in the US or parts of Europe where LTE is supported. The processor is just slightly faster and the battery is a bit bigger so they won't give you a significant difference. I would go as far as to say that it would be completely pointless upgrade if you already have the original One X.
Thank you all for your inputs. I admit that I love the white color of the HOX. The "so-so" battery life is not a big problem to me because I have developed a habit to charge the phone whenever I have available access to it.
So saying that, I would like to know how the camera performs on 4.1 update or even jelly bean update
has the video recording been boosted from 24fps and
battery life how good has it got since update I think these will lead me to my decision of which one to purchase tbh.
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Kinda surprised the One X+ isn't LTE but as there is the One XL I'm not surprised
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I reread the press release and checked wikipedia and yeah, they've done it again; made the models confusing by having LTE and not LTE but with the same name. Maybe. Or whatever.
Oh well, given that LTE is gonna be on different frequencies everywhere, looks like 4G is going to be a bit of a fail for roaming. Probably a good thing considering what they charge for roaming data
I think LTE is the only cheeseburger for ATT subscribers. For those who use Straight Talk, it may not be an option. Correct me if I am wrong
It is funny that a seller already lists HOX+ on sale on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200827411296?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
The price is a bit unattractive
I would wait for the One X+... the significant difference on the larger battery, and the improved front camera really fix the issues I've had with the One X.. regardless of having my One X rooted with custom rom & kernel. You just can't hack a battery to make it larger. =P Plus I've found that though the front camera is 'good enough' for video chat & photos IF there is enough light.. it really does need to be upped - which they did for the One X+. Everything else is the same, but it is nice to have LTE with the Tegra 3 chip - as long as your network provider has good coverage.
They are about the same just tweaked abit but i would wait just for the 64 gb of memory iv nealy filled my hox with just games and theres more coming out and dont wont to delete anything
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Hello
I just want to collect your guys' opinions regarding the Snap and Exy version of SGS4.
(This is why I am posting this thread on AT&T, Sprint and T-mobile forums, to gather as much as possible)
Since I have partial Korean background, I do catch up with reviews made by Korean forums and their users. (all of them got Exy)
The main problem that was pointed out was overheating problem. Is there any Snap user who's experiencing this issue? (apparently, you have to run hardcore processes for more than a hour)
I heard that Sammy chose to supply 70% of their SGS 4 to the globe with Snap and the reason was that I actually found out the overheating problem later during their development and could not manage to implement all of their productions with Exy. (Despite the fact that different regions have different frequencies. But even so?)
This made me to think that SGS 4 did not receive enough attention that it deserved from Sammy this time. Look, let's be generous and understand that the design belongs to everyone's preferences. In the early half of this year, it's competitors released devices that were extraordinary, something that we couldn't see from them for long time (e.g. Xpe Z, htc ONE and Lumia 920).
And no, I am not a Samsung fan-boy since I used both iOS (iPhone 4) and Android (Xperia P, V) for almost equal amount of time. But honestly? I think Sammy is heading in the wrong way these days. The image I used to perceive from Sammy's flagship models until now was that they are massacring spec phones that heightens the standards of all android phones. And this time? well..., (only AP-wise I'm talking) I just think it's better version of htc ONE or Optimus G Pro (which has not been released yet). I didn't care about their design and UI, or them not respecting copy-rights and I seriously doubt that there's a single person who buys SGS series for the sole reason of its brilliant design or TouchWiz. I did not expect them to come up with concepts like "Designed for Humans" or "Life Companion" and did not even want them to. Yet, these days, I feel like Samsung is stepping down from its throne of the hardware kingdom. Why... why... and why do they divide their "flagship" into different AP models without any hesitation?
This became a concern for me recently because my dad had an opportunity to buy either the Snap or Exy model. And since the Snap offered to at price that was $200 cheaper than the Exy, he obviously bought the Snap. HE is a Korean, so he has this Samsung pride(?). Whenever he meets up with his family or friends, he tells them how good his SGS 4 is (exactly like the commercials). As a son, I don't find this annoying at all and I really do like seeing my old man being proud of his product. And if this phone was for me, I would be quite happy to use any of these two models. But because of the given situations, I sometimes get a feeling that Samsung is deceiving their old followers (even if they do not intend to) and makes me little uncomfortable.
I know the Snap model performed better in GPU tests but if Samsung decides to update their Exy model with a firmware that allows MP processing, I think the result are going to be dramatically changed. The gap between these two models are quite severe in their CPU tests.
Would they be ditching their Snap users just like this??? I am indeed quite worried. It has not been a year yet after the release of their highly-acclaimed SGS 3, so maybe, they should have delayed the launching date of SGS 4 to implement Exy in all their products.
I guess my grumbles got horribly long in this thread and as I am a person who makes a lot of mistakes, please feel free to correct me
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Hello
I just want to collect your guys' opinions regarding the Snap and Exy version of SGS4.
(This is why I am posting this thread on AT&T, Sprint and T-mobile forums, to gather as much as possible)
Since I have partial Korean background, I do catch up with reviews made by Korean forums and their users. (all of them got Exy)
The main problem that was pointed out was overheating problem. Is there any Snap user who's experiencing this issue? (apparently, you have to run hardcore processes for more than a hour)
I heard that Sammy chose to supply 70% of their SGS 4 to the globe with Snap and the reason was that I actually found out the overheating problem later during their development and could not manage to implement all of their productions with Exy. (Despite the fact that different regions have different frequencies. But even so?)
This made me to think that SGS 4 did not receive enough attention that it deserved from Sammy this time. Look, let's be generous and understand that the design belongs to everyone's preferences. In the early half of this year, it's competitors released devices that were extraordinary, something that we couldn't see from them for long time (e.g. Xpe Z, htc ONE and Lumia 920).
And no, I am not a Samsung fan-boy since I used both iOS (iPhone 4) and Android (Xperia P, V) for almost equal amount of time. But honestly? I think Sammy is heading in the wrong way these days. The image I used to perceive from Sammy's flagship models until now was that they are massacring spec phones that heightens the standards of all android phones. And this time? well..., (only AP-wise I'm talking) I just think it's better version of htc ONE or Optimus G Pro (which has not been released yet). I didn't care about their design and UI, or them not respecting copy-rights and I seriously doubt that there's a single person who buys SGS series for the sole reason of its brilliant design or TouchWiz. I did not expect them to come up with concepts like "Designed for Humans" or "Life Companion" and did not even want them to. Yet, these days, I feel like Samsung is stepping down from its throne of the hardware kingdom. Why... why... and why do they divide their "flagship" into different AP models without any hesitation?
This became a concern for me recently because my dad had an opportunity to buy either the Snap or Exy model. And since the Snap offered to at price that was $200 cheaper than the Exy, he obviously bought the Snap. HE is a Korean, so he has this Samsung pride(?). Whenever he meets up with his family or friends, he tells them how good his SGS 4 is (exactly like the commercials). As a son, I don't find this annoying at all and I really do like seeing my old man being proud of his product. And if this phone was for me, I would be quite happy to use any of these two models. But because of the given situations, I sometimes get a feeling that Samsung is deceiving their old followers (even if they do not intend to) and makes me little uncomfortable.
I know the Snap model performed better in GPU tests but if Samsung decides to update their Exy model with a firmware that allows MP processing, I think the result are going to be dramatically changed. The gap between these two models are quite severe in their CPU tests.
Would they be ditching their Snap users just like this??? I am indeed quite worried. It has not been a year yet after the release of their highly-acclaimed SGS 3, so maybe, they should have delayed the launching date of SGS 4 to implement Exy in all their products.
I guess my grumbles got horribly long in this thread and as I am a person who makes a lot of mistakes, please feel free to correct me
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My taughts about the exynos 8 headed snake and the 4 headed snapdragon is that folks like myself in the USA once again got the stick up our arses. I once pridicted in the SGS3 thread that samsung would do exactly same as with sgs3 which was releaseing a dualcore in usa and quad core in the UK. And they advertise big gs3 quadcore to hype their sale pitch while putting the stick up costomers behind because obviously 90% people dont look at specs of their phone. Well once again its same,gs4 quad in usa while octacore UK. The whole excitement for me was the octacore and their new "big little idea" which was claim to save power consumption etc.
Anyway I own the gs4 snapdragon model now simply because I would have had to stick to 2G speed if I had gotten the exynos model due to lack of band support for network in USA.
The whole overheating thing is not new,the exynos sgs3 and the old snapdragon htc one I had own all over heated despite different cpu when playing games or doing heavy tasks. I also experience it with the gs4 but only while playing games. I must say that it looks like Samsung did spend more time tweaking the governor behavior because on light tasks while multy tasking the cpu dont just jump to the highest frequency as frequently as in their other phones as to consume power unnecessary. But all 4 cores goes online too quickly but at least they go offline fast. So theirs still stuff to be tuned that can dramatically improve cpu efficiency and function.plus wance we get some custom kernels to tweak the voltages of the cpu and gpu it should stop the overheating. Most times over heating is also caused by the cpu frequency ramping up to the highest speed and staying their too long. The snapdragon processor is very fast I must say. Havent had a slowdown since I bought the phone and for stock,battery life is verygood.I could go threw more than a day with medium to light tasks.
Also another thing that Samsung corrected was the oversaturatedness of the screen color which was awfull in the previous sgs3,the brightness of the screen have also improved while in the sunlight compare to the gs3 screen. Thankfully their was Andrelux that released his Perseus kernel in the gs3 section to combat that color problem and everything else I mentioned above plus more. Hopefully their will also be some good dev in the gs4 section to improve user experience. Overall I find the gs4 a decent upgrade weather it have the snapdragon or exynos since samsung corrected and improve upon most things and some that I may have forgot to mention.
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In the side by side tests I did, the i9500 beat the M919 in every area including the GPU, screen response, UI smoothness, HSPA+ data speeds, etc. As far as the heat is concerned I have read an equal amount of complaints on both forums.
I did this with the ONE X Tegra. Wanted the better processor and got what I wanted. Butt suffered because of the USA Bands.
I WANT the 8 core S4 but here it goes again///// USA bands. So i got the TMO version this time.
Overheating was not a huge deal for me. But it does get quite hot when I'm doing lots of tasks.
I say this alll the time. I want the manufacturers to put out 1 device and then a Chipset with all the bands for all the carriers world wide. Then tell the carriers that they need to suck it up and sell the phone as designed and NO re working it for each carrier. A TRUE world phone.
I feel; the features on a device should be limited by the software per carrier, not the hardware.
Well...the 8 core Exynos is really just 2 quad core processors that don't run simultaneously..so I don't really see the big deal. Also, Exynos development absolutely sucks.
According to Engadget the Exynos bests the Snapdragon in about the same amount of tests as the Snapdragon beats the Exynos. A surprising result of their tests shows that the Snapdragon beats the big.LITTLE architecture in a video playback duration test by about 20%
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skygear said:
I did this with the ONE X Tegra. Wanted the better processor and got what I wanted. Butt suffered because of the USA Bands.
I WANT the 8 core S4 but here it goes again///// USA bands. So i got the TMO version this time.
Overheating was not a huge deal for me. But it does get quite hot when I'm doing lots of tasks.
I say this alll the time. I want the manufacturers to put out 1 device and then a Chipset with all the bands for all the carriers world wide. Then tell the carriers that they need to suck it up and sell the phone as designed and NO re working it for each carrier. A TRUE world phone.
I feel; the features on a device should be limited by the software per carrier, not the hardware.
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Thats true,the Hardware should be manufacture as it was advertise and intended. Most people would purchase a smartphone or other device specifically from samsung and do not know anything about the hardware background specifications. Only that "yaayy I have the GS4". Also the carriers such as tmobile for example leaves out the CPU specifics in the list of hardware specs. So its a easy advantage to just slap just about anything in a phone and sell it for same price in the big usa. The dual core gs3 sold for same price as the UK quadcore gs3,infact it sold better in usa if I rember.
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Well...the 8 core Exynos is really just 2 quad core processors that don't run simultaneously..so I don't really see the big deal. Also, Exynos development absolutely sucks.
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You should readup here which explains more about the 8 Core exynos.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39172453
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mamba720027 said:
Thats true,the Hardware should be manufacture as it was advertise and intended. Most people would purchase a smartphone or other device specifically from samsung and do not know anything about the hardware background specifications. Only that "yaayy I have the GS4". Also the carriers such as tmobile for example leaves out the CPU specifics in the list of hardware specs. So its a easy advantage to just slap just about anything in a phone and sell it for same price in the big usa. The dual core gs3 sold for same price as the UK quadcore gs3,infact it sold better in usa if I rember.
You should readup here which explains more about the 8 Core exynos.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39172453
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Read up on the fact that it is currently not utilizing the 8 cores? Or the fact that if it does use the 8 cores it will not be optimized anyway so it will be basically worthless? Tell me what to read up on. Oh, it might make your benchmarks higher..sweet bro.
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Read up on the fact that it is currently not utilizing the 8 cores? Or the fact that if it does use the 8 cores it will not be optimized anyway so it will be basically worthless? Tell me what to read up on. Oh, it might make your benchmarks higher..sweet bro.
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Im not going into pointless arguments with you. You clearly have not looked at the linkd I refered you too because then you would not be asking all the useless questions youre asking me.
This is why their is always pointless arguments,simply because reading is not emphasize enough on XDA to educate people on the topic before they begin to criticise and pout senseless discussions.
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I personally have both and the i9500 runs laps around the M919. The M919 is laggy as a mofo, + the bloat (removable or not), + international will always see updates 1st. Once the Little.Big architecture is full understood it;s game over. We do have 8 cores and kernels are being worked on to enable all 8. The m919 will always have 1/2 that, period.
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I personally have both and the i9500 runs laps around the M919. The M919 is laggy as a mofo, + the bloat (removable or not), + international will always see updates 1st. Once the Little.Big architecture is full understood it;s game over. We do have 8 cores and kernels are being worked on to enable all 8. The m919 will always have 1/2 that, period.
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You sound like a broken record. I own the M919 running stock and I have yet to experience any lags you mention. For me this is not a competition as which phone is faster,true speed is important but its about the technology behind the makeing and how well it balance in terms of speed and battery. Especially battery performance ,which I think is the reason behind this so call big little architecture samsung have came up with. After all how big are they gonna keep makeing each generation of phones in order to squeeze in a bit more juice into a bigger size battery to run these so call faster more powerfull processors each time a new device comes out, thus the big little thing. If you think about it battery technology have not change since the crack of smartphones and maybe further back but the high demands for speedy more battery hungry chips are in demand each day as productivity increases.
Now I wish I had the octa core to see how it works if any improvement but sadly I dont. From my experience so far with the M919,its very fast cause all 4 core kicks in immediately wether its a small or big task(mean it waste battery),it gets warm to hot too quick while playing games (battery waste again) but the graphics are excellent. Theirs lots of room for improvement on the processor such as a custom kernel to undervolt and regulate the cores to work more efficiently. I randomly left my phone ideling for 24hours and few hours connected to wifi at home and I had a 15% battery drain with about 7mins of use. I had nothing syncing. I think that was good but also can improve with kernel tweaks wance available.
Take note the amount of info I have given you on one device. I didn't just blahh out "m919 is garbage because its slow and I9500 is the fastest **** on the block" unless people just wanna look at benchmarks daily and say "I feel so proud my phone is the fastest ****". It maybe faster yes but right now the software can only function as fast as it was optomize to be if you understand. And I dont know where you get your intell from to pridict product updates and kernel development,im sure their will be kernels and updates available as same with older phones. No one is left out of anything.
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My intel ? seriously bro ? International versions always get updates 1st because the carriers don't have to add all their crap. i have used both in real world environment and the M919 lags on the accuweather live wallpaper from the S3. It's not a comparison of benchmarks, m919 is laggy. You don't have to get all bent because I provided a factual analysis......
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My intel ? seriously bro ? International versions always get updates 1st because the carriers don't have to add all their crap. i have used both in real world environment and the M919 lags on the accuweather live wallpaper from the S3. It's not a comparison of benchmarks, m919 is laggy. You don't have to get all bent because I provided a factual analysis......
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True that if youre waiting on the carrier to release an update its a whole new story but if youre here on xda or aware of the community then you know thats not a problem.
Have you ever taught the Accuweather was optomize N design to run on the S3 flawless. I couldent evin find that wallpaper existance on the playstore.So its prob garbage cause theirs other accuweather live wallpaper available their that works fine.
Im currently running the "Ditalix live wallpaper" which was design for highend devices like the Galaxy S4 and GS3 to look beautiful and run flawless like silk and uses up the largest amount of memory I have ever seen for a wallpaper 256mb in the background,yet no lags. if you were to read the reviews for it on the playstore you would notice it indeed does not work on just any device. So if that can run so good on the M919 I dont see why a low rated Accuweather wallpaper for the old gs3 cannot unless like I said,it was specifically optomize for the gs3 device screen etc. Low fps + low resolution scenario. Anything will lag and look crappy with that case.
This is why prople are misleaded sometimes because a few people screwup and they wisper something is not good cause they had such a terrible experience when its not the device fault.
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Well when you actually have both in hand, your input will be more valuable. It's not just the live wallpaper from the G2 (that's actually where it originates) but simple menu actions, retuning to the home screen, etc. You can say all you want, but without proof from both sides if is YOU that is the broken record. Nobody said the M919 was a terrible experience either, I'm not bashing the device. This thread is for comparisons against the i9500 octa, to which I see significant differences. Are they monumental? No. Do they exist? Yes. For people where the price is close enough to have a choice, this may actually help them make a better, educated decision based of real world experience. I was in the market for either the M919 or i9500 and snagged the octa for the same price I would have paid for the T-Mobile version. I get no LTE in my area and the HSPA+ is plenty for me, so it was an easy choice. About the updates you seem to be missing key information, for carrier branded units the updates have to be leaked, tweaked, modified and ripped from other models 1st if you don't want to wait. International users will always see these 1st as they roll out from Samsung directly.
Another day, another ****-measuring contest...
They're both top-tier devices. There are only a handful of comparable handsets, and the only ones I can think of that're clearly more powerful are the (China-only) Medfield-core Lenovo K-series.
The Exynos will probably be the winner between i9500/i9505, WHEN/IF the driver issues are worked out, but till then the best device is whichever one's in your hand.
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Well when you actually have both in hand, your input will be more valuable. It's not just the live wallpaper from the G2 (that's actually where it originates) but simple menu actions, retuning to the home screen, etc. You can say all you want, but without proof from both sides if is YOU that is the broken record. Nobody said the M919 was a terrible experience either, I'm not bashing the device. This thread is for comparisons against the i9500 octa, to which I see significant differences. Are they monumental? No. Do they exist? Yes. For people where the price is close enough to have a choice, this may actually help them make a better, educated decision based of real world experience. I was in the market for either the M919 or i9500 and snagged the octa for the same price I would have paid for the T-Mobile version. I get no LTE in my area and the HSPA+ is plenty for me, so it was an easy choice. About the updates you seem to be missing key information, for carrier branded units the updates have to be leaked, tweaked, modified and ripped from other models 1st if you don't want to wait. International users will always see these 1st as they roll out from Samsung directly.
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Now you seem to be makeing more sense and posting a proper comment so people can actually make an intelligent decision. Unlike your first 2 posts.
Youre lucky to have good hsdpa+ in your area running I9500 cause when I had the international galaxy s3 tmobile had just made the transition over to support international bandwith for hsdpa+ and the speed and signal was terrible in my area. Had to use 2g speeds. Thats the reason I did not purchase the international model of the galaxy s4 this round,i dont care for lte,3G speed or 4G which I now have would do it for me. Im dont regret my purchase of the M919 cause so far my experience is good.
The only thing I could say to folks looking to buy in the USA and leaning towards the M919 is if possible stay away from tmobile and buy it non carrier branded from a reputable source if the price is right. Tmobile sells the phone at full price if you wanna avoid the monthly down payment but despite buying it at full price and already haveing a contract with them, they sell you it with a contract plus new number as part of the whole deal which is totally ridiculous. Then u have to go threw the idiotic process of canceling it wance u receive your device.
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My brother is looking for an unlocked (no carrier), cheap yet decent android phone, and we saw this one in Amazon for about $195 new, ~$140 used, and as it has a 1,5 Ghz dual core processor, 1GB ram, standard 8MPx camera, good screen size, we are considering to buy it.
But I'd like to know the opinion of people who own it, I've read it has some software issues, but are they still there with cyanogen mod roms? I checked and it has cm10.1, does it work well with it? Help us decide please.
I would never recommend buying any phone for more than $20 or $30. But that's because I'm cheap and the "free" phone are just as good as the expensive ones nowadays.
Anyway, I would say no unless you don't plan on rooting and you buy the extended battery.
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I would never recommend buying any phone for more than $20 or $30. But that's because I'm cheap and the "free" phone are just as good as the expensive ones nowadays.
Anyway, I would say no unless you don't plan on rooting and you buy the extended battery.
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I forgot to say that I'm looking for an unlocked phone, since I'm not residing in the US and can't get one of those that are "free" with a contract.
I really like my phone but the battery life isn't that good. With the avatar ROM, wind kernel, and pure performance, I get very little drain while the phone is sleeping. Once I start using WiFi or data, it seems to drain quickly.
Screen is nice, it's light, and has a nice feel.
First, the Nitro for $200 off-contract is GOOD!
You're getting:
Dual-Core 1.5GHz Scorpion
4.5", 720x1280 pixels LCD screen
4g LTE
WiFi and DLNA
Bluetooth 3.0
GPS
Accelerometer
Compass (Hope this isn't something you'd really use, since the Nitro's compass is notorious for being BAD)
The main battery drain on this phone is the kickass screen and LTE. If you're in an area without LTE service and turn it off, that alone will increase the battery longevity by a BIG margin. As for the screen, set the brightness a bit lower when you don't need it and that too will help greatly.
This phone has its' hiccups, but so does any other phone, but for $200 and being off-contract for it, that's a good deal on this phone. I think your Bro would enjoy it.
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First, the Nitro for $200 off-contract is GOOD!
You're getting:
Dual-Core 1.5GHz Scorpion
4.5", 720x1280 pixels LCD screen
4g LTE
WiFi and DLNA
Bluetooth 3.0
GPS
Accelerometer
Compass (Hope this isn't something you'd really use, since the Nitro's compass is notorious for being BAD)
The main battery drain on this phone is the kickass screen and LTE. If you're in an area without LTE service and turn it off, that alone will increase the battery longevity by a BIG margin. As for the screen, set the brightness a bit lower when you don't need it and that too will help greatly.
This phone has its' hiccups, but so does any other phone, but for $200 and being off-contract for it, that's a good deal on this phone. I think your Bro would enjoy it.
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Well there's no LTE around here so he could turn it off, and he previously had a Xperia U (lost it), so it should be an improvement. Thanks for all the replies.
Namuna said:
First, the Nitro for $200 off-contract is GOOD!
You're getting:
Dual-Core 1.5GHz Scorpion
4.5", 720x1280 pixels LCD screen
4g LTE
WiFi and DLNA
Bluetooth 3.0
GPS
Accelerometer
Compass (Hope this isn't something you'd really use, since the Nitro's compass is notorious for being BAD)
The main battery drain on this phone is the kickass screen and LTE. If you're in an area without LTE service and turn it off, that alone will increase the battery longevity by a BIG margin. As for the screen, set the brightness a bit lower when you don't need it and that too will help greatly.
This phone has its' hiccups, but so does any other phone, but for $200 and being off-contract for it, that's a good deal on this phone. I think your Bro would enjoy it.
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Even used... Considering that the person selling it most likely got it for around $30 from AT&T or Rogers?
$200 isn't bad, but if you could stretch it to $300 and get a nexus 4 that's what I would do. A lot newer hardware, direct updates from google, and more radio bands supported if you decide to switch to tmobile or one of their mvno's in the future.
Nexus 4 just dropped to $200 today, probably in preparation for the new one in a month or two. I'd definitely go with the nexus for that price.
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Nexus 4 just dropped to $200 today, probably in preparation for the new one in a month or two. I'd definitely go with the nexus for that price.
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Just make sure you get one made in Korea, the ones from China are garbage for some reason. So if the seller can verify that would be best. Also the Nexus 4 does not have an lte radio, if that's important. A very similar phone is LG's Optimus G (unlocked for $350) but has lte and 32gb built in (upgradeable) vs 8 or 16gb (not upgradeable) & quad core processor vs dual core. Just something to keep in mind. IMHO for $200 I would stay with the lg nitro. LTE + upgradeable memory, better ui. If that isn't important then stay with the Nexus, as long as its the Korean made and its not the 8 GB model.
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Because of the high cost performance
SeriousGeorge said:
Nexus 4 just dropped to $200 today, probably in preparation for the new one in a month or two. I'd definitely go with the nexus for that price.
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AFAIK, Google Play won't sell you phones if you're not a resident of the very few countries were they sell (US, UK, Australia, Spain, etc), but I'll tell him to give it a try, thanks for the heads up. Living on a 3rd world country sucks, btw.