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[Q] Can the incredible do wifi calling?

Does the droid incredible support wifi calling?
i saw that the vibrant has a app for it that did wifi calling which made me think of my droid incredible
so is any1 looking at making a app that will make it do wifi calling with a app of some sort like the vibrant and is there no need for one?
I'm using sense 3.0 and ive played with it enough i think to never see that feature on it before.
For me the only1's to get signal were i live is at&t and us cellular lol.

Look for Groove IP in the Market. Groove uses your Google Voice number to make calls over a data connection--WiFi or mobile data.

If you are running gingerbread there is internet calling built in. Look at the bottom of the settings - call menu. Also sipdroid, csipsimple (i think that how its spelled) and others can do the same. And, as the poster above mentioned, you can setup Google voice to make internet calls for you. I have a decommissioned Droid Eris setup to take and receive calls over wifi, that replaced my home phone because it costs me nothing. Let me know if you want links to threads with more info
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Thanks!
Well i guess i haven't used the rom enough haha. thanks for taking the time to reply to my silly question lol

Do you need to have cellular service on the phone you want to setup IP/Wifi calling on? I also have a decommissioned Eris that I'd like to setup, but when I try Google Voice, it tries to verify my number and fails (as expected on a phone with no service).

It's been a while since I set up a GV number but why are you trying to connect your GV number to a phone? If you do that it will attempt to verify it. Can you just sign up for a number without doing that? If so, once you do just sign in to that GV number with GrooVe IP from decomissioned phone. You don't need and active celluar service on it.

scottjb said:
It's been a while since I set up a GV number but why are you trying to connect your GV number to a phone? If you do that it will attempt to verify it. Can you just sign up for a number without doing that? If so, once you do just sign in to that GV number with GrooVe IP from decomissioned phone. You don't need and active celluar service on it.
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awesome! I'll give that a try, being that I do have a GV number already on my Dinc.

I cant seem to get this working maybe the apps have been updated? Any help would be great.

Groove IP works pretty good for me

Does that work with the htc dailer
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Sip over cell networks?

I am looking to do some sip calling using my data plan. I like the stock rom is there a flashable zip to allow sip calling over 3g? If not is there a custom rom that allows this? Thanks in advance.
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sorry im not familiar with the acronym sip. what is it
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SIP stands for Session Initiation Protocol, and it is a standard for Voice over Internet Protocol (Voip).
@420247paul, do you have a SIP server available? CM7 has an "Internet Calling" option in the "Call settings" section of its configuration. We have a VoIP server here at my work, and it was fairly simple to configure the Internet Calling to work with our server. It was able to dial and receive calls even using the data plan. (3G speeds made for poor quality calls, however.)
Keep in mind that using SIP calling will drain your battery faster than the water trough of a Kentucky Derby winner. (It uses a lot of battery. )

ok..i dont do internet calling. thanks for info, sorry couldnt help
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SIP / Wifi Calling for ICS

Hi All--
I have configured SIP calling through pbexes.org using the native implementation in ICS
However, I'm running into a little trouble, and was hoping for some help:
Anyone know how to DISABLE sip calling while on 3g, and only have it active on Wifi?
Also, I can only seem to get it to make 'internet calls' (sip) when I have DISABLED calling from google voice. weirdness.

Mine its setup to ask how I would like to make the call, via cellular service or voip.
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Can you text over wifi instead of sprint network????

Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.

Text is a voice service it doesn't use data at all. If you can't text making/receiving phone calls must be hard at your home as well. Over wifi Google voice or a similar app from the play store would be your best bet

Yes, you can. The best way to do it would be Google Voice, but there are other apps out there capable of it. The way the carriers handle it (in this case Sprint) is over the network... GSM or CDMA. 3g is always an extension of the mobile voice network... this is why you typically cannot make calls and browse the web while on 3g (although Sprint has found a way to defeat this with the Viper and the Evo LTE, though a second chipset). 4g runs on a different band than 3g does, which means it doesn't affect your calling / text capabilities.
I know that is more info than you asked for. The long and short of it is that you need an app designed to run on Wifi, rather than mobile data, but it is possible.

+1 for google voice. I even use it to text from my Nook which doesn't even have 3g.
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I put mine in airplane mode when I'm home and used voice for everything
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G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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elliwigy said:
G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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I have to use roam control and wifi at my house. I spend most my time in my game room in the basement and.my sprint service sucks down there. But I get perfect signal roaming.

You guys reading?
If you can make a call at home you can text brother
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Rooster85 said:
You guys reading?
If you can make a call at home you can text brother
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Uh, slvrap1 already stated this in so many words above. We're discussing workarounds now. And yes, Google Voice is the easiest way to go if you're using an Android phone.

A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
Simplified version:
REAL SMS is a hack of the control channel between cell phone and tower. It has nothing to do with a data connection so it can not be transmitted via EVDO, WIFI or any other data connection...
Note: When I state REAL SMS that is because services like google voice and others are all VOIP connections that use data connections to transmit messages and phone conversations... There is character limit in VOIP texting but they impose it because you can send it to a REAL SMS and that has character limitations built in..

numus said:
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
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Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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musclehead84 said:
Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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That actually just sends the message via the data connection to a server, which then relays that into the carrier's system and is then transmitted to the recievers phone via the 1xRTT control channel... They aren't actually texting a phone, they are sending an instant message to a server that then knows how to convert and relay that into a text message.
Note: I use 1xRTT because we are on a CDMA2000 system... for AT&T, T-Mobile and other GSM it works on their *2g* voice connection... I forgot what it is called at this moment...

Use roam control at home, Verizon probably covers you better. 1x roaming is free other than your minutes

deziking said:
Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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numus said:
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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tt281gt said:
I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Do you happen to be connected to wifi?
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tt281gt said:
Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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More likely when you moved you connected to a less loaded tower, being connected to wifi was just a coincidence.

tt281gt said:
I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Well if you are connected to WiMAX or Wifi.. yes you can make a phone call and surf the web at the same time.. If you are on EVDO, the only way that is possible is if you have 2 cell phones... One to surf the web and one to make calls
tt281gt said:
Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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Your experience is only coincidental... It is physically impossible because the SMS system is built on the 1xRTT control channel... It has nothing to do with the data connection in any way shape or form... It is a hack on the tower identification and protocol transmission channel.
It is like if you take out a frozen piece of meat, turn on the microwave and leave the piece of meat outside the microwave (never put it in the microwave) and claim the microwave is defrosting the meat...

Rooster85 said:
You guys reading?
If you can make a call at home you can text brother
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Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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elliwigy said:
Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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Google voice will only allow you to text over your google voice phone number... If you use google voice to manage your SMS and text using your phone number, it will still send it via SMS (1xRTT control channel) and will fail There is no alternative when you want to use your actual phone number except for utilizing the sprint web tool.. log into your account and send a text message from the web tool.\
Note: I am one of those people that will correct wrong information if i see it, even if it doesn't 100% pertain to the original post. IMHO it is the only way to ensure people don't start repeating the wrong information and exponentially make it harder to teach people the correct answer.

Disable HD Voice on Lollipop?

where I am located, if I receive or make a call the HD Voice icon comes on and I am NOT able to use data at the same time. I do not know if the phone was designed this way, but does anybody know if there is a way to disable it so I don't lose LTE when I get a phone call over CDMA?

Our device/network is capable of it yet on the note 4 some older devices have two radios instead of a single

pbedard said:
Our device/network is NOT capable of it yet on the note 4 some older devices have two radios instead of a single
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Only something like VoLTE (Voice over LTE) will allow simultaneous voice and data.

GuitarJesus said:
where I am located, if I receive or make a call the HD Voice icon comes on and I am NOT able to use data at the same time. I do not know if the phone was designed this way, but does anybody know if there is a way to disable it so I don't lose LTE when I get a phone call over CDMA?
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Basically what these guys said. With the Sprint Note 4, you cannot make a phone call and use data at the same time regardless if the call is an HD voice call. The only way to make a phone call and use data is only if you are connected to Wi-Fi.

actually, I found a way around this. I enabled google voice for my sprint number, with changes my google voice to my actual sprint cell phone number. Then I use google hang outs to make phone calls. To use data instead of voice, you have to use the hangout dialer. And if you want to receive calls using data, you need to go into settings under the hangout sap, and check the box that says use hangout dialer for incoming calls. As long as the connection is -100db or better under lte and -75db or better under 3g, calls are great.

GuitarJesus said:
actually, I found a way around this. I enabled google voice for my sprint number, with changes my google voice to my actual sprint cell phone number. Then I use google hang outs to make phone calls. To use data instead of voice, you have to use the hangout dialer. And if you want to receive calls using data, you need to go into settings under the hangout sap, and check the box that says use hangout dialer for incoming calls. As long as the connection is -100db or better under lte and -75db or better under 3g, calls are great.
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Technically that doesn't allow you voice + data. It allows you voice over data ^_^. But that also means I won't be able to do things like I could with my note 3 + custom rom. Like playing pandora from my phone to my vehicle while on a call at the same time. At least not without insane buffering issues. But this is what everyone has been using anyway. Did you disable the call monitoring? That drove me nuts until I figured out what was causing it.

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Technically that doesn't allow you voice + data. It allows you voice over data ^_^. But that also means I won't be able to do things like I could with my note 3 + custom rom. Like playing pandora from my phone to my vehicle while on a call at the same time. At least not without insane buffering issues. But this is what everyone has been using anyway. Did you disable the call monitoring? That drove me nuts until I figured out what was causing it.
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You mean call screening? I absolutely did. And the nice thing is simply being able to toggle inside the settings in the Hangouts Dialer whether or not to have calls go there. That way if its a sketchy data area, I just take calls in the standard dialer so the call quality doesnt suck. It works good so far. Especially where my kids go to school while my wife is on maternity at Home. Data is good standard LTE or band 41, -80db or so, so I can talk and use the net or stream at the same time.