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HTC Desire unrooting ?

Hi there,
I wanted to know if there is a way to unroot my Desire which I bought from O2 Germany.
I am planning to root my Desire but am not sure because of the warranty. I guess the warranty will be over the moment I root.
I have the Bootloader 0.80.
Thanks,
hakeem18

If your phone was rooted and you flashed the official o2 Rom which is available on here somewhere, you would be unrooted.
And your warranty would be fine.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Agrees, flashing a stock FW will unroot your phone, but i would check with your insurance because as long as you dont open the phone and fiddle with the bits it doesnt matter what your running, rooted or not!

If this is possible why the nexus one can't do this? I thought if you unlocked the bootloader that it will stay unlocked or will this only happen on the nexus one?

Bootloader and Fastboot are built into all Android Devices, they are how the engineers would get in and fix your phone if it broke
as for the Nexus One i was under the impression that like with all Androids you flash the Official ROM and it is unrooted

The bootloader stays unlocked right when you unroot a desire or nexus one?

weebeast said:
The bootloader stays unlocked right when you unroot a desire or nexus one?
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Yep, like i said Bootloader and Fastboot are on all Android devices for DEV and engineering purposes

Thanks wanted to be sure that if the bootloader stays unlocked that you will still have warranty when you have unrooted the phone

weebeast said:
Thanks wanted to be sure that if the bootloader stays unlocked that you will still have warranty when you have unrooted the phone
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Its ok mate, glad to help

Unlocking trought htcdev.com works

http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Select the Option "All other Supported Models" and follow the instructions.
After this process, your device show "*** UNLOCKED ***" and "SHIP S-ON"

blubbers said:
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Select the Option "All other Supported Models" and follow the instructions.
After this process, your device show "*** UNLOCKED ***" and "SHIP S-ON"
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...better wait for a time like revolutionary for a real S-OFF method.
Wonder how people can to this htc unclock without worries about their warranty.

I will wait for Revolutionary personally. More flexibility to flash radios, hboots, etc.
EDIT: And kernels (boot.img)

Confirmed. Unlock works.
SHIP S-OFF RL

I understand that unlocking your device via htcdev.com will irreversibly void your warranty, but is that also the case, if I unlock my device with the stuff from the revolutionary team ?
I never had a device, which could be unlocked that way. My first two android phones were Motorolas and they could always be converted back to stock, for sending them in for repairing or for selling them.

thedoginthewok said:
I understand that unlocking your device via htcdev.com will irreversibly void your warranty, but is that also the case, if I unlock my device with the stuff from the revolutionary team ?
I never had a device, which could be unlocked that way. My first two android phones were Motorolas and they could always be converted back to stock, for sending them in for repairing or for selling them.
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You probably can still revert completely back to stock, the point is that if you use htcdev.com they've got a record of the phone being unlocked (even if you return it to stock again), whereas if you do it yourself then revert it they wouldn't know it had been unlocked in the first place.

That sounds great, thank you.

Thank you !
Like the other I prefer another method...

i will also wait for revolutionary^^
luckily there is temp root so i can delete the crap i dont use
cant wait for it to come so i can flash the first coredroid beta on it^^

Temp Root isnt working...

If we use the htcdev.com or revolutionary HTC will find out that the phone was unlocked!

moom999 said:
If we use the htcdev.com or revolutionary HTC will find out that the phone was unlocked!
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No. Revolutionary is reversible. But htcdev does keep a record forever. However, that doesn't screw you out of every single warranty like many think. Only a small number of software issues, otherwise you still have warranty. We will see how long many of you will wait for revolutionary before you cave in and unlock through htcdev lol. All of us vivid users never got anything other than htcdev unlock. All the devs working on s off told us that HTC made it a hell of a lot harder to crack the newer phones.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

About htcdev unlock. They log your imei and serial number, yes. BUT the only thing you'll get after that is the posibility to unlock your device. Once we get Revolutionary s-off and then the ability to s-on again, how will they know if you really used the possibility to unlock your device? There's a final warning so no evidence you finally used it
Hopefully revolutionary team may be able to use the htc unlock method

Any way I just unlock it now using htcdev
Because I want it to try the temp-root to see if it will work with unlocked but did not work.
As I understood with unlocking using htcdev I still have the warranty for the hardware or I just lost all the warranty?

So just confirming that the htcdev unlock does not let the temp root work?

slapshot30 said:
No. Revolutionary is reversible. But htcdev does keep a record forever. However, that doesn't screw you out of every single warranty like many think. Only a small number of software issues, otherwise you still have warranty. We will see how long many of you will wait for revolutionary before you cave in and unlock through htcdev lol. All of us vivid users never got anything other than htcdev unlock. All the devs working on s off told us that HTC made it a hell of a lot harder to crack the newer phones.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium
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Being on the rezound I agree. And also the fact that before my rezound I sent back a dinc2 completed rooted because of hardware problems and had no issues.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium

robt772000 said:
So just confirming that the htcdev unlock does not let the temp root work?
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Yes, confirmed

moom999 said:
As I understood with unlocking using htcdev I still have the warranty for the hardware or I just lost all the warranty?
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That's right, you still got most of your warranty intact..
HTCDEV.com said:
It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty.
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So; in some cases, not all, where the damage is caused by unlocking warranty will not be valid.

if the temp root doesnt work after the htcdev unlock why would you then wanna use it and tell them what you did^^

I've got permaroot working with an unlock by htcdev. Wai for mike to update his thread

[Q] why S-OFF??

hey guys,
As i know the one X can be rooted,custom recovery, unlocked boot loader, and runs custom roms.
so what will the S-OFF do????

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24963615&postcount=2

Also, I believe that if we find a way to S-OFF the One X we wouldn't have to unlock the bootloader via HTCdev.com and it wouldn't void the warranty (well, it still would, but they wouldn't know about it )

mr.dj26 said:
hey guys,
As i know the one X can be rooted,custom recovery, unlocked boot loader, and runs custom roms.
so what will the S-OFF do????
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S-Off will allow us to flash custom kernels, radios etc...
We will also be able to unlock the bootloader without HTC knowing about it. If you unlock via HTCDev it will void parts of your warranty but not all of it.

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I see, I see
thanks guys

dr9722 said:
S-Off will allow us to flash custom kernels, radios etc...
We will also be able to unlock the bootloader without HTC knowing about it. If you unlock via HTCDev it will void parts of your warranty but not all of it.
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I spent nearly 45 minutes clicking on every link I could find on the HTCDev website on a detailed T&C and warranty inf and found nothing /: I want to know exactly what changes to my warranty should I unlock my bootloader!

ArmedandDangerous said:
I spent nearly 45 minutes clicking on every link I could find on the HTCDev website on a detailed T&C and warranty inf and found nothing /: I want to know exactly what changes to my warranty should I unlock my bootloader!
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The software side of the warranty is void.

Unlock & root only with registration at htcdev.com

Considering the One X/S as my next device.
I read somewhere that htcdev.com registration (and bootloader unlock) will void your guarantee forever, and based on experience I will need HTC service at some point.
Did I understand it correct, that in order to unlock the bootloader and root, I would need to register at htcdev.com. There no other way?

HoundDK said:
Considering the One X/S as my next device.
I read somewhere that htcdev.com registration (and bootloader unlock) will void your guarantee forever, and based on experience I will need HTC service at some point.
Did I understand it correct, that in order to unlock the bootloader and root, I would need to register at htcdev.com. There no other way?
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From what I have been reading just unlocking your bootloader won't void your warranty. But HTC will be able to tell what software you have installed in your phone according to this post HERE
So it's really up to HTC whether or not they fix your under warranty if you ever decide to use custom ROMs.

shadowboy23 said:
From what I have been reading just unlocking your bootloader won't void your warranty. But HTC will be able to tell what software you have installed in your phone according to this post HERE
So it's really up to HTC whether or not they fix your under warranty if you ever decide to use custom ROMs.
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Hmmm...spooky!
So even if we manage to unlock and root without htcdev.com, HTC cache what roms we use in a hidden folder that cannot be flushed. I'm sure HTC is not going to use such information at my advantage.
If that's really the case, I guess HTC is no longer an option for me?

When I used htcdev to unlock my htc legend I was required to send what is a unique device token to HTC before they send me a unlocker binary file, obviously to me that device token tells HTC exactly which phone has been unlocked and is stored in a data base somewhere, so if you send it for repair, even if you do manage to get your phone back to stock again before, the records will show that the phone has been tampered with.
That's what i believe anyway.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta0

HoundDK said:
Hmmm...spooky!
So even if we manage to unlock and root without htcdev.com, HTC cache what roms we use in a hidden folder that cannot be flushed. I'm sure HTC is not going to use such information at my advantage.
If that's really the case, I guess HTC is no longer an option for me?
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Well I'm not sure about that. Maybe with S-OFF we can clean the cache, but not really sure.

ranger4740 said:
When I used htcdev to unlock my htc legend I was required to send what is a unique device token to HTC before they send me a unlocker binary file, obviously to me that device token tells HTC exactly which phone has been unlocked and is stored in a data base somewhere, so if you send it for repair, even if you do manage to get your phone back to stock again before, the records will show that the phone has been tampered with.
That's what i believe anyway.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta0
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Sending the token means you may have unlocked your phone. They don't void warranty for just unlocking your boot loader.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

too many conflicting statements........
yep thts too many for me

Locking Bootloader

hi,
i have to return my phone guarantee because the speaker and jack input doesnt work.
i have already unroot device, flash stock recovery, (i was all the time s-on), flash stock rom and trying to lock bootloader but i cant make it LOCKED (it's RELOCKED). i was looking for any "how to" but im blind ...
can anyone help with making my bootloader LOCKED ?

pangapz said:
hi,
i have to return my phone guarantee because the speaker and jack input doesnt work.
i have already unroot device, flash stock recovery, (i was all the time s-on), flash stock rom and trying to lock bootloader but i cant make it LOCKED (it's RELOCKED). i was looking for any "how to" but im blind ...
can anyone help with making my bootloader LOCKED ?
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are you s off?

no, im sON

Only way to put it back totally stock is to be S-off.

Magnum_Enforcer said:
Only way to put it back totally stock is to be S-off.
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yeah, i dont even think about paying 25$ to s-off...
and i have one more problem: i got "Software status : Modified", i want it Official (Original), do i need s-off to make it ?
i was searching some threads and i found that flashing RUU can solve this problem but i can find RUU from my carrier (Plus, Poland)

Just a thought... 25 dollars to s-off could save you getting charged for your repair if they see you're "relocked" and deny your warranty. ?

Darth said:
Just a thought... 25 dollars to s-off could save you getting charged for your repair if they see you're "relocked" and deny your warranty.
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i know but its a "mechanical" issue not the software so they should reapir it even bootloader is unlocked ;P but i want be sure they'll do it without any problems
is possible to make Software Status : Official from Modified ?
(S-ON)
Is 25$ s-off way , can be use multiply on my device ?

You'll need S-OFF to completely return to stock with no tampering signs.... But, if they don't send you back your same device , you would need to purchase Sunshine again unfortunately. Or stay s-on.
Sunshine license is for one device only.
If they send same unit back, yes, it will work again.
But switching back to s-on is really not necessary when you send it in. I've sent mine in with s-off and many others have without issue. But that's your call. ?