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Unlocking trought htcdev.com works

http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Select the Option "All other Supported Models" and follow the instructions.
After this process, your device show "*** UNLOCKED ***" and "SHIP S-ON"

blubbers said:
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Select the Option "All other Supported Models" and follow the instructions.
After this process, your device show "*** UNLOCKED ***" and "SHIP S-ON"
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...better wait for a time like revolutionary for a real S-OFF method.
Wonder how people can to this htc unclock without worries about their warranty.

I will wait for Revolutionary personally. More flexibility to flash radios, hboots, etc.
EDIT: And kernels (boot.img)

Confirmed. Unlock works.
SHIP S-OFF RL

I understand that unlocking your device via htcdev.com will irreversibly void your warranty, but is that also the case, if I unlock my device with the stuff from the revolutionary team ?
I never had a device, which could be unlocked that way. My first two android phones were Motorolas and they could always be converted back to stock, for sending them in for repairing or for selling them.

thedoginthewok said:
I understand that unlocking your device via htcdev.com will irreversibly void your warranty, but is that also the case, if I unlock my device with the stuff from the revolutionary team ?
I never had a device, which could be unlocked that way. My first two android phones were Motorolas and they could always be converted back to stock, for sending them in for repairing or for selling them.
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You probably can still revert completely back to stock, the point is that if you use htcdev.com they've got a record of the phone being unlocked (even if you return it to stock again), whereas if you do it yourself then revert it they wouldn't know it had been unlocked in the first place.

That sounds great, thank you.

Thank you !
Like the other I prefer another method...

i will also wait for revolutionary^^
luckily there is temp root so i can delete the crap i dont use
cant wait for it to come so i can flash the first coredroid beta on it^^

Temp Root isnt working...

If we use the htcdev.com or revolutionary HTC will find out that the phone was unlocked!

moom999 said:
If we use the htcdev.com or revolutionary HTC will find out that the phone was unlocked!
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No. Revolutionary is reversible. But htcdev does keep a record forever. However, that doesn't screw you out of every single warranty like many think. Only a small number of software issues, otherwise you still have warranty. We will see how long many of you will wait for revolutionary before you cave in and unlock through htcdev lol. All of us vivid users never got anything other than htcdev unlock. All the devs working on s off told us that HTC made it a hell of a lot harder to crack the newer phones.
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About htcdev unlock. They log your imei and serial number, yes. BUT the only thing you'll get after that is the posibility to unlock your device. Once we get Revolutionary s-off and then the ability to s-on again, how will they know if you really used the possibility to unlock your device? There's a final warning so no evidence you finally used it
Hopefully revolutionary team may be able to use the htc unlock method

Any way I just unlock it now using htcdev
Because I want it to try the temp-root to see if it will work with unlocked but did not work.
As I understood with unlocking using htcdev I still have the warranty for the hardware or I just lost all the warranty?

So just confirming that the htcdev unlock does not let the temp root work?

slapshot30 said:
No. Revolutionary is reversible. But htcdev does keep a record forever. However, that doesn't screw you out of every single warranty like many think. Only a small number of software issues, otherwise you still have warranty. We will see how long many of you will wait for revolutionary before you cave in and unlock through htcdev lol. All of us vivid users never got anything other than htcdev unlock. All the devs working on s off told us that HTC made it a hell of a lot harder to crack the newer phones.
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Being on the rezound I agree. And also the fact that before my rezound I sent back a dinc2 completed rooted because of hardware problems and had no issues.
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robt772000 said:
So just confirming that the htcdev unlock does not let the temp root work?
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Yes, confirmed

moom999 said:
As I understood with unlocking using htcdev I still have the warranty for the hardware or I just lost all the warranty?
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That's right, you still got most of your warranty intact..
HTCDEV.com said:
It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty.
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So; in some cases, not all, where the damage is caused by unlocking warranty will not be valid.

if the temp root doesnt work after the htcdev unlock why would you then wanna use it and tell them what you did^^

I've got permaroot working with an unlock by htcdev. Wai for mike to update his thread

Unlock & root only with registration at htcdev.com

Considering the One X/S as my next device.
I read somewhere that htcdev.com registration (and bootloader unlock) will void your guarantee forever, and based on experience I will need HTC service at some point.
Did I understand it correct, that in order to unlock the bootloader and root, I would need to register at htcdev.com. There no other way?

HoundDK said:
Considering the One X/S as my next device.
I read somewhere that htcdev.com registration (and bootloader unlock) will void your guarantee forever, and based on experience I will need HTC service at some point.
Did I understand it correct, that in order to unlock the bootloader and root, I would need to register at htcdev.com. There no other way?
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From what I have been reading just unlocking your bootloader won't void your warranty. But HTC will be able to tell what software you have installed in your phone according to this post HERE
So it's really up to HTC whether or not they fix your under warranty if you ever decide to use custom ROMs.

shadowboy23 said:
From what I have been reading just unlocking your bootloader won't void your warranty. But HTC will be able to tell what software you have installed in your phone according to this post HERE
So it's really up to HTC whether or not they fix your under warranty if you ever decide to use custom ROMs.
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Hmmm...spooky!
So even if we manage to unlock and root without htcdev.com, HTC cache what roms we use in a hidden folder that cannot be flushed. I'm sure HTC is not going to use such information at my advantage.
If that's really the case, I guess HTC is no longer an option for me?

When I used htcdev to unlock my htc legend I was required to send what is a unique device token to HTC before they send me a unlocker binary file, obviously to me that device token tells HTC exactly which phone has been unlocked and is stored in a data base somewhere, so if you send it for repair, even if you do manage to get your phone back to stock again before, the records will show that the phone has been tampered with.
That's what i believe anyway.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta0

HoundDK said:
Hmmm...spooky!
So even if we manage to unlock and root without htcdev.com, HTC cache what roms we use in a hidden folder that cannot be flushed. I'm sure HTC is not going to use such information at my advantage.
If that's really the case, I guess HTC is no longer an option for me?
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Well I'm not sure about that. Maybe with S-OFF we can clean the cache, but not really sure.

ranger4740 said:
When I used htcdev to unlock my htc legend I was required to send what is a unique device token to HTC before they send me a unlocker binary file, obviously to me that device token tells HTC exactly which phone has been unlocked and is stored in a data base somewhere, so if you send it for repair, even if you do manage to get your phone back to stock again before, the records will show that the phone has been tampered with.
That's what i believe anyway.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta0
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Sending the token means you may have unlocked your phone. They don't void warranty for just unlocking your boot loader.
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too many conflicting statements........
yep thts too many for me

Can't find ROM version

Hello guys, my sisters WFS is on build 2.26.707.2, could anyone guide me on how to s-off the WFS? the whole bootloader part i can't understand but recovery i do as i'm using a galaxys2.

The only way to S-off the GSM variant ATM is via XTC-Clip...............For know the only free way to root is by unlocking the bootloader.
To see if your current software is unlockable....Switch on your phone while holding the Vol down key.......this will result in opening the bootloader........if it says LOCKED on the top..........then your bootloader is unlockable
Proceed to step 1 on HTCdev,com

csoulr666 said:
The only way to S-off the GSM variant ATM is via XTC-Clip...............For know the only free way to root is by unlocking the bootloader.
To see if your current software is unlockable....Switch on your phone while holding the Vol down key.......this will result in opening the bootloader........if it says LOCKED on the top..........then your bootloader is unlockable
Proceed to step 1 on HTCdev,com
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M tryin to to s-off my wfs.........but having problems in ruu........eveytime its saying Error 190
Followed many threads in xda.........but still stuck there
plz help

what if i'm on android 2.3.5

shawnaye said:
what if i'm on android 2.3.5
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There is no way to S-OFF without an xtc clip regardless of what you're currently running. Fortunately you don't need to S-OFF in order to install custom roms, like csoulr666 said you'll need to visit htcdev.com and follow the instructions there. That will unlock your bootloader, but also invalidate your warranty.

For unlocking only
Try this link for unlocking without voiding warranty.

Can't wait for Root

Does anyone else feel the same
cannot wait to get root so you can remove those stupid operator apps which slow phone down.
S-OFF not possible at the moment
S-ON Officially but void warranty
Surely someone has to come out with a exploit to root the device soon

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577671
the one x has been rooted.

Zinta said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577671
the one x has been rooted.
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Yes, but dont you need booloader unlocked to get root as I am on a Stock Branded Device (Vodafone)

Yes you do.

If you dont want to unlock the bootloader then your ONLY other option is to wait for S-Off.

and then also no warranty any more, so where is the difference?

michaffm1964 said:
and then also no warranty any more, so where is the difference?
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Main difference is you dont send you details off to HTC (Device Token ID) so they know you have officially unlocked booloader.
When we finally S-OFF we can always re-lock the booloader in case of warranty repairs .

[Q] S-OFF HTC One V

Hi everyone i googled a lot about s-off for htc one v, but there is no normal info how to do that... so there is now way to do that or i dont know something?

The one V can't get s-off indeed.
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So without setting up s-off i cant change cid?
lars1216 said:
The one V can't get s-off indeed.
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nutonas said:
So without setting up s-off i cant change cid?
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no u can't
sent from my sexy Nexy

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nutonas said:
Hi everyone i googled a lot about s-off for htc one v, but there is no normal info how to do that... so there is now way to do that or i dont know something?
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There are only hardware solutions [which don't make a lot of sense for a common end user]. lg(e) tool & riff box both offer methods for s-off on gsm one v. A local repair shop might have one of these tools. I have a riff box, but that doesn't do many ppl very good. No soft-unlock; I agree with previous posters there.

Can you post the pic sir? Cuz i dont hear any of that b4
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danishaznita said:
Can you post the pic sir? Cuz i dont hear any of that b4
sent from my katana
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Sure, as soon as I get cdma support for same.. I carry a Virgin Mobile [as of today].
The sticky part is you have to have a jtag tool.. found out medusa box also supports htc one v. Then, possibly even more sticky, you have to disassemble your phone and use testpoint to disable your emmc. Lots of people have totally screwed their phones not following that hairy step.. The rest is quite easy should you have and read your respective jtag support literature.
Rob

I don't think people will be willing to dissemble their phones for s-off
What i mean to say that its too risky
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aashukmehta said:
I don't think people will be willing to dissemble their phones for s-off
What i mean to say that its too risky
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I totally agree with you. S-OFF really is not needed unless you're a true developer. And by that I mean, unless you are wanting to look at and tweak your bootloader and/or radio.. why does one even need S-OFF? The HTC unlock should work just fine for 95% or more of the people out there. Those that dare to need more... they'll just have to pay to play [or take that risk].
Regards,
Rob

insink71 said:
I totally agree with you. S-OFF really is not needed unless you're a true developer. And by that I mean, unless you are wanting to look at and tweak your bootloader and/or radio.. why does one even need S-OFF? The HTC unlock should work just fine for 95% or more of the people out there. Those that dare to need more... they'll just have to pay to play [or take that risk].
Regards,
Rob
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CDMA ver should got S-OFF , GSM yet no S-Off yet.
S-OFF is super useful for who want to do custom rom/kernel without breaking the warranty because you can unlock BL without via HTC unlock and lock BL again at anytime when you want to send it back to HTC service centre.

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TheEndHK said:
CDMA ver should got S-OFF , GSM yet no S-Off yet.
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1) GSM is supported T320e PK7610000 by riff box, lg(e) tool, medusa, and possibly others; CDMA is not PK7630000.
S-OFF is super useful for who want to do custom rom/kernel without breaking the warranty because you can unlock BL without via HTC unlock and lock BL again at anytime when you want to send it back to HTC service centre.
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2) S-Off voids your warranty the same as HTC unlock. Talk to anyone who ever used the xtc-clip, and see how easy it is to S-On after S-Off.
You can customize both roms and kernels with HTC unlock. The only restraints are as I mentioned before: your stuck on latest bootloader and radio cannot be tampered with [or switched to another carrier]. That's pretty much it. The differences in a nutshell.
Rob

insink71 said:
1) GSM is supported T320e PK7610000 by riff box, lg(e) tool, medusa, and possibly others; CDMA is not PK7630000.
2) S-Off voids your warranty the same as HTC unlock. Talk to anyone who ever used the xtc-clip, and see how easy it is to S-On after S-Off.
You can customize both roms and kernels with HTC unlock. The only restraints are as I mentioned before: your stuck on latest bootloader and radio cannot be tampered with [or switched to another carrier]. That's pretty much it. The differences in a nutshell.
Rob
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There have been some One Vs that shipped with S-OFF

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MameTozhio said:
There have been some One Vs that shipped with S-OFF
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Companies, including HTC, do make a limited number of S-off devices [typically for qualcomm developers or the carrier development teams]. These have occasionally been shipped out in error to regular customers. It is like finding a golden easter egg though, not typical. In those rare cases HTC might take phone back [to save face since ultimately was a shipping error] but typically s-off will void a warranty. Truthfully though, if you have a s-off device, one would rarely need to utilize warranty. 99% of issues out there can be fixed with software [patches, replacing binaries, kernels, etc.] Only time warranty is needed is when hardware fails; which, hasn't happened to me ever i the many devices I've owned.
Rob
Only hardware faults I've seen with this particular model [HTC One V] are bad/fried emmc chips and/or bad resistor from emmc. These typically come from people that have tried to defeat the emmc write protection [purposefully or unwittingly]. Unfortunately, this is why with these devices test point must be used [which shorts the emmc disabling the write protection] or indeed hardware damage could occur to your device [if your determined to try but attempt to write w/o disabling the write protection]. Do I believe many will actually partially disassemble their phone for s-off? Nope. Will I still work on and publish [safe] method if I can? Yep. Hardware failures on this device are denoted by dropping into qhsusb_dload mode [w/o invoking it properly through test point].

insink71 said:
1) GSM is supported T320e PK7610000 by riff box, lg(e) tool, medusa, and possibly others; CDMA is not PK7630000.
2) S-Off voids your warranty the same as HTC unlock. Talk to anyone who ever used the xtc-clip, and see how easy it is to S-On after S-Off.
You can customize both roms and kernels with HTC unlock. The only restraints are as I mentioned before: your stuck on latest bootloader and radio cannot be tampered with [or switched to another carrier]. That's pretty much it. The differences in a nutshell.
Rob
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I don't know GSM got S-OFF now. Can you give me the link?
However, I don't fully agree S-OFF voids warranty as HTC said the only way to loss warranty is via HTC Lock Website and they can have an official record about you agree to loss the warranty. There are little devices ship with S-OFF. HTC doesn't willing to repair them?
One more stuff about S-OFF. You can flash the rom with kernel together in recovery mode and don't need to flash the kernel via fastboot separately.

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TheEndHK said:
I don't know GSM got S-OFF now. Can you give me the link?
However, I don't fully agree S-OFF voids warranty as HTC said the only way to loss warranty is via HTC Lock Website and they can have an official record about you agree to loss the warranty. There are little devices ship with S-OFF. HTC doesn't willing to repair them?
One more stuff about S-OFF. You can flash the rom with kernel together in recovery mode and don't need to flash the kernel via fastboot separately.
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S-Off used to void warranty.. there used to be [probably still is] a checksum in bootloader.. you call a htc repair shop for rma and they will request you boot the phone to bootloader, run the test, and read them the numbers. That test tells if a device has been tampered with, and in my experience, s-off devices couldn't get RMAs ::shrug::
Ok links are to hardware tools [which cost money] but can s-off gsm devices:
http://www.jtagbox.com/jtag-news/riff-jtag-htc-t320e-htc-primo-unbrick-unlock-supercid-imei-repair-supported/
http://www.lgtool.net/phones/htc.html
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f664/medusa-box-v1-7-5-htc-repair-via-usb-added-1639081/
There may be others..
Regards
Rob

insink71 said:
S-Off used to void warranty.. there used to be [probably still is] a checksum in bootloader.. you call a htc repair shop for rma and they will request you boot the phone to bootloader, run the test, and read them the numbers. That test tells if a device has been tampered with, and in my experience, s-off devices couldn't get RMAs ::shrug::
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Thanks for your links.
But with S-OFF, you can remove the tampered status in bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357624
I read it here from HTC One. You can even change it back to S-ON before you send it to HTC service center.

tampered flag not the same as checksum test, but yep [once s-off] should be able to remove tampered flag.
Some S-off solutions can S-on; Some cannot. For hope in the matter, always run a full dump [preferably on a clean, factory reset device] before you s-off.
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insink71 said:
tampered flag not the same as checksum test, but yep [once s-off] should be able to remove tampered flag. checksums called image crc in bootloader.
Some S-off solutions can S-on; Some cannot. For hope in the matter, always run a full dump [preferably on a clean, factory reset device] before you s-off.
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Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 4

so what's the benefits of s-off?
and what''s the difference from s-on and s-off devices?
i just begin to learn all these things

jasperlin1996 said:
so what's the benefits of s-off?
and what''s the difference from s-on and s-off devices?
i just begin to learn all these things
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google is your friend mate.....
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insink71 said:
S-Off used to void warranty.. there used to be [probably still is] a checksum in bootloader.. you call a htc repair shop for rma and they will request you boot the phone to bootloader, run the test, and read them the numbers. That test tells if a device has been tampered with, and in my experience, s-off devices couldn't get RMAs ::shrug::
Ok links are to hardware tools [which cost money] but can s-off gsm devices:
http://www.jtagbox.com/jtag-news/riff-jtag-htc-t320e-htc-primo-unbrick-unlock-supercid-imei-repair-supported/
http://www.lgtool.net/phones/htc.html
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f664/medusa-box-v1-7-5-htc-repair-via-usb-added-1639081/
There may be others..
Regards
Rob
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I was told that s-off can easily brick the phone.