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Poll: Htc dev unlock?

Are you willing to lose the guarantee, by official HTC metod, in order to have S-off or root rights?

Doesn't HTC method just make you loose software warranty ?
I mean, I think hardware problems are still covered after that.
see that on htcdev website :
It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty.
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I need confirmation on that though as I'm not sure

i think physical defects or damages due to unlocking the bootloader, then overclocking and frying the cpu or motherboard will not be covered..
however... if the screen malfunctions, it would be reasonable to uphold the warranty unless there are reasons to believe it is again due to end-users unlocking the bootloader. (ie, maybe the guy unlock the bootloader, overclocked the phone and the heat caused some circuit to melt due to excess heat and this caused the screen to stop working?)
many scenarios, just giving some examples of what i think would mean non-coverage by warranty..

Physical damage can be attributed to unlocked bootloader. Example, heating has destroyed your lcd pannel. Warrenty uncovered. In our case this is not the truth but, to get back your phone what can u do if not pay?!?
Maybe htc is too much honest or maybe not... anyway they have a strong weapon to not recognize it.
from http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/faq
Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
so, device still be s-on? no way to change radio and hboot? O_O

I will do it with an unofficial tool.
Hopefully the revolutionary tool will be there soon!
I don't want to wait..

torxx said:
I will do it with an unofficial tool.
Hopefully the revolutionary tool will be there soon!
I don't want to wait..
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What's the benefit to doing it this way please?
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If you want to send your phone to HTC, you can bring it back to stock before.
But if you did it with htcdev, HTC can see that you unlocked your Bootloader, so it will be difficult to get your phone repaired.- HTC just won't do anything but they will never know if you used an unoffical tool.

torxx said:
If you want to send your phone to HTC, you can bring it back to stock before.
But if you did it with htcdev, HTC can see that you unlocked your Bootloader, so it will be difficult to get your phone repaired.- HTC just won't do anything but they will never know if you used an unoffical tool.
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Sound good to me, I always like the option to go back to stock for these purposes so I'll wait too
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You can go back to stock after using htcdev, too.
But your Bootloader will be signed of htc, so they know that you did it.

Yea you're right!Hope S-off will come then I don't need to unlock in HTC bootloader~

Has anyone asked the Revolutionary team if the exploit they used before works with the HTC One series and if they will support the device? I assume they will because they tend to follow flagship phones but you never know. Here's hoping we won't have to wait too long.
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I'm sure that they are working on it..

As far as I heard you still have warranty even though you unlocked your bootloader.

Yes of course but if for example your processor is damaged, you will surely not have any warranty on this.

Us vivid users went through heaven and hell to try and unlock the bootloader/achieve s off. Only after some strategic calls to HTC did we even get the official bootloader unlock, we never achieved it.unofficially either. We still don't even have s off so no radio flashing and a more round about way for flashing kernels and recoveries. I really hope the One X will have an unlock bootloader option. HTC wasn't even planning on giving the option until six months after the release. It didn't matter though, our development and most the community was already killed off by the time we got bootloader unlock. Hopefully HTC learned a lesson or the people working on unofficial s off/bootloader unlock have some tricks up their sleeve...
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I was just chatting with HTC and mentioned I had mine bootloader unlocked. He said it voided my warranty as that was stated on HTCDev, but I said HTCDev only says its void certain parts off the warranty.
But in e-mail I got from HTC they state, you do not get warranty when you are running an custom rom, so I guess we need put it back to stock and lock the bootloader.
Then there should be no problem with warranty.

DexterMorganNL said:
I was just chatting with HTC and mentioned I had mine bootloader unlocked. He said it voided my warranty as that was stated on HTCDev, but I said HTCDev only says its void certain parts off the warranty.
But in e-mail I got from HTC they state, you do not get warranty when you are running an custom rom, so I guess we need put it back to stock and lock the bootloader.
Then there should be no problem with warranty.
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Yes, there still is a problem. Never again will your hboot read "locked", it will only show up as "relocked", so you still aren't quite out of the water.
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Yes that's true, but I believe you can just use your warranty. The guys in chat who say you voided it don't know what they talking about.
If you really send it in for warranty then they should just fix it. But best we can do is relock it.

DexterMorganNL said:
Yes that's true, but I believe you can just use your warranty. The guys in chat who say you voided it don't know what they talking about.
If you really send it in for warranty then they should just fix it. But best we can do is relock it.
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Actually, a stock-looking rooted ROM will do the trick. I've heard enumerable amounts of people saying the people at HTC didn't even look to see if the device was rooted or bootloader unlocked. I really don't think they are that picky.

slapshot30 said:
Actually, a stock-looking rooted ROM will do the trick. I've heard enumerable amounts of people saying the people at HTC didn't even look to see if the device was rooted or bootloader unlocked. I really don't think they are that picky.
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I think so to. But atleast I would load the original non rooted stock rom on it. I only get the bootloader from Evo 3D to get show relocked and under it still says s-off, but I guess that's from revolutionary and I don't know how to get rid off that, but I will just leave it like this.
I have heard enough stories that peoples HTC got fixed with an unlocked bootloader and some even with an custom rom. And how big is the chance someone really ever going need use the warranty?
I think its quite small. But I'm not going unlock the HTC One X i think as it should be fast enough even without an custom rom.
I don't want HTC to know it and we should have an unlock method that is fully reversible, at HTC Desire HD we had that, with on click you had it back s-on.

Help Me regarding Unlocking Bootloader For My HTC Wildfire

I have HTC Wildfire
I purchased it a year ago
i am currently running 2.2.1 on my phone
I want to root my phone but don't know if the bootloader of my phone is unlocked or locked
how should i come to know if the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
And please help me regarding rooting my phone & installing a custom rom on it.

Wrong board, no biggie..
sunamit37 said:
I have HTC Wildfire
I purchased it a year ago
i am currently running 2.2.1 on my phone
I want to root my phone but don't know if the bootloader of my phone is unlocked or locked
how should i come to know if the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
And please help me regarding rooting my phone & installing a custom rom on it.
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This section is for the Wildfire S, you're looking for the board for the HTC Buzz ( Original Wildfire).
You'll find that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=678

Can't wait for Root

Does anyone else feel the same
cannot wait to get root so you can remove those stupid operator apps which slow phone down.
S-OFF not possible at the moment
S-ON Officially but void warranty
Surely someone has to come out with a exploit to root the device soon

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577671
the one x has been rooted.

Zinta said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577671
the one x has been rooted.
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Yes, but dont you need booloader unlocked to get root as I am on a Stock Branded Device (Vodafone)

Yes you do.

If you dont want to unlock the bootloader then your ONLY other option is to wait for S-Off.

and then also no warranty any more, so where is the difference?

michaffm1964 said:
and then also no warranty any more, so where is the difference?
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Main difference is you dont send you details off to HTC (Device Token ID) so they know you have officially unlocked booloader.
When we finally S-OFF we can always re-lock the booloader in case of warranty repairs .

[Q] How to relock bootloader so it seems to be untampered?

Hi guys,
After rooting my phone and installing some roms, my phone has decided to randomly stop working sometimes.
I received my phone in July so I still have warranty, but I can only send it back if HTC think I have not tampered with my phone.
I have looked at a thread on how to return to stock and RELOCK hboot, however HTC will be able to see this, and I would like to know if it is possible to relock hboot but just make it say LOCKED, as a new phone?

You can't without S-OFF, and S-OFF is impossible at the moment.

tomascus said:
You can't without S-OFF, and S-OFF is impossible at the moment.
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Thanks, but then how can I send my phone to HTC for repair?

DarkyHero said:
Thanks, but then how can I send my phone to HTC for repair?
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all you can do is relock the bootloader, and pray for the best. if your sending your phone in for anything apart from motherboard issues you will be fine.

kemmo123 said:
all you can do is relock the bootloader, and pray for the best. if your sending your phone in for anything apart from motherboard issues you will be fine.
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Ok thanks
But the problem is that the screen won't always turn on, which I think could be related to software or hardware. Just after wiping and flashing a new rom, everything works perfectly, but then a day later, screen problems appear. Do you know what this is caused by?

my phone's friend is the same. i think you must send to HTC to repair .

Htc One **TAMPERED**
I was just wondering, I have the HTC ONE/ M7 and I was trying to root it but was never successful. I unlocked it with the HTCDev website and installed GOO on my phone but thats about as far as I got. Now my phone shows **TAMPERED** and **UNLOCKED** in the HBOOT menu, I was just curious as to how I would get those to go away.
THANKS!

This is the one x forum... Go to the m7 forum...
You can not change that status if you have a s-on M7...
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Brand New M8 Shipped with S-OFF

I got my HTC One M8 about a month or more ago switching from my Xperia Z2, and of course, the first thing I had to do with it was root it. Since I had to unlock the bootloader first, I went into bootloader mode and saw the info on the top of the screen. As expected, it says LOCKED, but the funny thing is, it says S-OFF instead of S-ON. Is there any way that this can happen to brand new phones? How can I make sure I am S-OFF, other than going into bootloader mode? I want to convert my phone to GPE but don't want to brick it in the process. Thanks :good:

Schwaggmeister said:
I got my HTC One M8 about a month or more ago switching from my Xperia Z2, and of course, the first thing I had to do with it was root it. Since I had to unlock the bootloader first, I went into bootloader mode and saw the info on the top of the screen. As expected, it says LOCKED, but the funny thing is, it says S-OFF instead of S-ON. Is there any way that this can happen to brand new phones? How can I make sure I am S-OFF, other than going into bootloader mode? I want to convert my phone to GPE but don't want to brick it in the process. Thanks :good:
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You got lucky, I traded in my m8 for the nexus 6 and left it s-off for the next person that gets it ^^
If it says S-OFF in bootloader you are indeed S-OFF. There's an adb shell/terminal command to unlock the bootloader if you don't want to go through htcdev, although htcdev is safer. But either way, once you bootloader unlock you can convert to gpe if you want or whatever you wanna do.
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I wonder if the phone was returned the point of sale, repackaged, and shipped to you? Perhaps the previous owner relocked the bootloader but left the phone S-OFF.

HolyAngel said:
You got lucky, I traded in my m8 for the nexus 6 and left it s-off for the next person that gets it ^^
If it says S-OFF in bootloader you are indeed S-OFF. There's an adb shell/terminal command to unlock the bootloader if you don't want to go through htcdev, although htcdev is safer. But either way, once you bootloader unlock you can convert to gpe if you want or whatever you wanna do.
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Yeah, I already unlocked bootloader, rooted a long time ago, but I'm not sure if this phone is brand new because it did come with the wrapping around it and not a scuf or scratch was found on the phone, however the sticker sealing the box was already cut, but I presume it's just my uncle checking that all the parts are there because he was the one who got the phone for me since he works at a pretty big shop where they sell phones . Either way, thanks, also great ROMs you're doing for the M8 :good:

WorldIRC said:
I wonder if the phone was returned the point of sale, repackaged, and shipped to you? Perhaps the previous owner relocked the bootloader but left the phone S-OFF.
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Bootloader wasn't relocked. If it was it would say **RELOCKED**, but mines said **LOCKED**.

Schwaggmeister said:
Bootloader wasn't relocked. If it was it would say **RELOCKED**, but mines said **LOCKED**.
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It is very easy to make it say "locked" instead of "relocked" since the device has S-OFF.

Schwaggmeister said:
Is there any way that this can happen to brand new phones?
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Yes, I've seen reports of this happening from time to time. It pretty rare, but it does happen.