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Which Sense-based ROM is the "best"?

So far I've been using Revolution HD, but now I wonder if there are other ROMs that may have interesting things to offer.
I read the ROM's threads and I find it somewhat hard to decide based on those posts. Almost all say they are stable/fast/zipaligned/deodexed. Maybe there isn't that much difference between the custom Sense-ROMs?
LeeDroid sounds interesting, as does CoreDroid, but so does Revo HD...
So maybe those of you who are using custom ROMs could say why they use their specific ROM. I know there's no "best" ROM, but I guess everybody has a reason for their choice. I think it'd be interesting to hear.

Rcmix hd, because it's clean and near stock. Only real mod is the deodexing. The more the messing the more the chance of unforseen problems.
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bur2000 said:
So far I've been using Revolution HD, but now I wonder if there are other ROMs that may have interesting things to offer.
I read the ROM's threads and I find it somewhat hard to decide based on those posts. Almost all say they are stable/fast/zipaligned/deodexed. Maybe there isn't that much difference between the custom Sense-ROMs?
LeeDroid sounds interesting, as does CoreDroid, but so does Revo HD...
So maybe those of you who are using custom ROMs could say why they use their specific ROM. I know there's no "best" ROM, but I guess everybody has a reason for their choice. I think it'd be interesting to hear.
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Sorry to say but when you start on this flashing stuff you are going to spend a lot of time anyway. Trust me . I have tried out many of the ROM's and mostly they are all good. They all have a touch from the cook though. My advice is to try for yourself. It doesn't take more than 10 mins plus and you're set to go on a new rom.
Asking us will just give you answers pointing in different directions. I hope that you can use my advice. I know that its probably not what you wanted to hear but that's just my opinion.
Anders
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Yes, I know there's no way around trying for yourself. But it'll take some time to decide whether a ROM is good or not. You'd probably need to use the ROM for a couple of days.
But since there are many ROMs maybe the selection can be thinned out a bit by advice of other users. What would you suggest I try if I'm looking for a clean ROM where the changes are mostly under the hood. From browsing through the forum it seems Revo/Leedroid/Coredroid/Rcmix are fitting that description. Any other suggestions?
And I read in some Sig that Revolution HD was best performance and Leedroid best battery usage. Is that really the case?

Its a personal choice! LeeDroid all the way!

Well, I think the best thing to do is trying out the different roms and see what works for you.
I personally prefer the Revolution HD rom, but that doesn't mean that it's the right one for you

Revolution HD, LeeDroid and CoreDroid are the ones I've tried so far.
- Revolution HD is the one closest to stock which is both its' strong as well as its' weak point.
I have the strong suspicion that I might be doing sth wrong in its' case but with this ROM I always lose the "places" and "latitude" apps. On the other hand I notice I also lose them with every ROM (including the stock one) if I do a Factory Reset the "normal" way.
- LeeDroid is the one I tend to gravitate the most on because it's got that sth extra without being extremely heavy. Still too much bloat for my tastes though...
Works great though!
- CoreDroid is the one I like the most aesthetically (i.e the theme work they do) and they seem to be the ROM most on the bleeding edge.
However, I also got the most bugs out of all the ROMs I tried including the WiFi not working at all (turned out I needed to flash a different kernel manually), the battery draining EXTREMELY fast (not sure why, I didn't change any settings coming from the other two ROMs), the GPS navigator and an added Weather&Clock widget just crashing when called, as well as their own add-ons sending the phone on a BootLoop.
The "last straw" of sorts was today when I picked up my phone after a night that it auto-updated only to find the freakin' Market missing altogether!
In all honesty, CoreDroid would be the one I'd prefer if they could just get it to work right...
(P.S. interestingly enough, ALL three of them released a new version of their ROMs today so take all that I said earlier with a grain of salt as I can't know what bugs were squashed or whether any new ones were introduced).

I like leedroid the best. I installed it the day I got my phone. It's mostly stock, but with a ton of under the hood optimization. Ever since lee started doing his own kernels the phone has been getting quicker each release. And while there are kernels that score higher in benchmarks, general usage feels way snappier on lees kernels.
Been running leedroid roms for 3 months now, and nö issues to report
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CoreDroid HD v3.1 + LeeDroid v2.2.2 Custom Kernel Combo. Enough said.

Leedroid for battery life-Revolution for benchmark...
But every couple of days there are updates!This is nice or not?i think is better to use my CWM once a week,but thats roms life...

I like Core Droid the best, Sergio has been working hard these past days releasing update adter update to please everyone, and 99% of times he has done.
Battery life for me is amazing, performance is as smooth as butter, and Sergio is a theming god.
I also use LeeDrOiD's kernel, because it is perfect for me.

I have only used the Android Revolution HD rom, but this is a great rom, the battery time is good, and its easy to install and all the "crap" apps are removed.

I've never used leedroid as I've only used rev hd, but better battery life sounds good. What's the main difference between the 2 or 3 roms?
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They are different flavors of the same ROM (well, until recently at least, now CoreDroid is at version 1.84 which does away with some problems I had with the stock 1.72 as well as all the ROMs based on it) so it's not THAT extreme (nothing like flashing CyanogenMod) but there are subtle differences.
Personally, I like the blue theming of CoreDroid the best but they also tend to be pretty bleeding edge, better to let a ROM mature a little first, the Revolution HD ROM is the one closest to stock and the lightest of the bunch but LeeDroid's strong point is their very heavily optimized kernels with very frequent updates.
They have no custom theme but there is a lot of effect-based eye candy (like transparencies and flying-in message boxes).
Honestly I like all three for different reasons and keep switching between them on a pretty regular basis, so far I like the CoreDroid the best but I just keep going back to LeeDroid for stability and long battery life!

[Q] Custom or Stock ROM

Once I am certain that my One X is fault free I want to Root and install a custom ROM on it. But I heard some feedback on another Thread that the custom ROM they were on was actually worse than the Stock ROM and they were going back to Stock.
What I would like is some feedback from current users of custom ROM's on the One X.
Whether you think it has improved your experience of using the One X?
What ROM you are on?
Is battery life improved?
What's not working?
Any other thoughts?
This is NOT a "What Custom ROM is best" thread, because that is down to individual preference. I just want to gauge whether I am gaining anything by Unlocking (voiding my warranty) and flashing custom.
Any thoughts apreciated....

I'm on Coredroid 2.0 for the last week and so far all is great, battery either better or the same, no issues, looks better than stock so I keep it.
I do have stock backup just in case but looks like I won't need it.
I'v been using Coredroid ROMs on my previous phones and always liked it so it was easy choice for me.

just to add i have flashed first Android Revolution and it blew me away. But now i am using LeeDroid and i highly recommend it due to the fact how well the Leedroid tweaks blend with the rom and how lite and fast it is for me that is.. Stock rom is good as well but with all the bloatware removed i am more than happy.
Battery life best always to judge over a few cycles but so far not bad my friend. I would go for Leedroid for now. and you have few nice mods in themes and apps to play with to.

Honestly many Roms are similar so bloatware removed, mods available. Just choose one you visually like

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Honestly many Roms are similar so bloatware removed, mods available. Just choose one you visually like
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have to admit CoreDroid looks nice and visually eye candy material...looking forward when we get some good themes going as well

Took the plunge and have flashed Android Revolution HD, as I used that on my Sensation.
Hope my phone doesn't break now!!

not too impressed with arhd battery life. tried insertcoin tht wasnt very good either for battery but both emntioned roms very speedy. i think the three stock rom is optimized for our network 3g consumption and the reason three didnt release the 1.28 update like the rest is because of the radio [posibly and the network handling protocols within the rom.
hmmm im back on stock for now removed bloatware with titanium much much better just want a theme.
ics browser is better and and so it the phone app in my opnion would love them to be flashable like on my sensation but still keep sense!

Viper or Jellybean?

Until the two come together, which one would you pick for now and why?

I would say viper because it's highly customizable. I have used cm10. It's preety damn fast but you can always install a custom kernel ( faux or nix) to make it buttery smooth.
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I used cm10 for a few weeks to test it out, but then realised how much I missed sense's superior camera and sound (with mods of course). Also, sense is what makes the phone unique. Hard choice.
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Have to agree with above posts, the Jellybean roms run super smooth and quick, and look nice etc, but the camera is basic.
So if you don't use your camera i would say go with a JB rom, but if you like the features of the Sense camera then stick with Viper for now.

Any sense based rom I quite rely on sense for its camera, better email client, Facebook integration, widgets, and such.
I've tried the jelly bean roms and miui but always come break to sense.
It depends on your usage and such try them both out and find which you prefer to use.
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Tried 4.1 for few days, but had to come back to sense. This makes HTC phones unique and there are so many features that lack in CM roms. Also, Viper is so highly custoimzable and smooth you will not regret not having 4.1 at all.

I was in rd miui jelly bean for two days and was great, using stock kernel but I think it needs a custom kernel for better battery.
Viperx is amazing. But Now I m on ordroidx, I dont know tomorrow. Love flashing and modding.
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I used Ice Cold Jelly and stick to it since then ^^
I love the stock android feeling since ICS and Jellybean just makes it even better.
I asked myself the same question many times, the pro's for viper being the fact it could be modded to have the least possible sense (which I just find annoying, there is too much of everything...) the battery life and te camera.
But I stay on ICJ, it has great support from both the kernel dev (ncx) and LordClockan which is allways helping. You can't theme Sense suc perfectly back to stock as stock allready is, the AOKP toggles are just awesome for me and having a Nexus 7 I am not having two different panoramas.
Thanks to the ncx kernel it's fast and stable but also with minimal battery drain.
I would tell you to try both, and stick with the one you prefer.
Another point I keep in mind is that I will never again buy from HTC (the S-ON fact and sense of course) So stock is the best way to have the most chances to keep your references... (that's why I searched stock, coming from a Galaxy Nexus).
Good luck !

Said it before, Footballs maximus rom owns. It just works. I used to jump around Ice Cold and allsorts on DHD, always trying to find the perfect rom... i really have nothing to fix on this. Stock kernel too. it just works. Admittedly, some games are VERY slightly juddery, but I have a Nexus 7 too, so I game much less on the One X now. I tried Viper..... Really wasnt for me. Its like the non-bloat version of bloat.....

yes,the same by me,i like to test rom but mydaily rom is the great viper;its fast shure,Viper is so highly custoimzable and smooth you will not regret not having 4.1 at all.maby one day it comes the version from htc with sense4.? and JellyBean,i love sense sinse i have had this touch diamond2,over the touch hd and the wonderful desire.
Its like religion or ähh politic ore somethink i dont know

Jellybean or Renovate or ARHD....simple as that mate...and if you like to customize then go with MIUI

@ edge3uk
Its like the non-bloat version of bloat.....
thats silly,blödsinn,quatsch,man you boring or what?

For me ..Domination ROM is the best..but battery not good as Sense ROMs and other ROMs
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I used CM10 for few weeks but like few before me have mentioned, battery life is not that great and camera is really awful, so now I'm back on Viper X. JB is nice, smoother and quicker, but for me personally that marginal performance difference is not worth sacrificing battery, camera or stability (and then there are few other nifty little features of sense that I like , such as beats audio profiles, FM radio, weather and clock animations etc).

Which ROM's have better battery life ? CM10 or Sense ?

I am ditching Verizon, and my cool Galaxy Nexus, running CM10. Going to pick up an international One X to use on Straight Talk. I really love the gorgeous display on the One X, plus the sexy cool design as well. And I am burned out on my last few Samsung phones, for crappy GPS locking, and pissy radios and WiFi.
Anyways, I use my phone a lot during the day, and prefer battery life over cool whiz bang features. I have read people saying that Sense based ROM's offer much battery life over CM10 JB ROM's, is that true ?
I like the look and feel of stock Android Jellybean, but won't install a CM10 ROM if it has poor battery life, and am willing to give a good Sense ROM a shot if it will offer better battery life ?
Opinions wanted please, thanks.

To me, sense now has amazing battery life, can't say it did have not to long ago. The latest sense based roms include superb battery life even with moderate to full use my battery holds out even past the end of the day. However, I can't comment on how this compares with aosp and aokp roms, I never really stray from sense you see, not now it's improved dramatically both in performance and battery life
To me, sense roms, down to personal preferences but like I said, I haven't tried any other roms other than sense
Good luck.
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Also viper x, I strongly suggest
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In my experience Sense ROMs are significantly better when it comes to battery life. Standby times are simply amazing. Also the sense camera is much better than whats included in CM10.

I Agree, the one thing i like about sense ROMs is the camera app. i pretty much hate the rest of the sense. but from what i've seen my battery life with sense wasnt so bad. But i've fall in love with PA ROM.

Android Revolution HD has a very decent battery life and silky smooth on everything ... Go for it :good:

Which of the CM10 ROM's offers the best battery life for the One X ?

Zorachus said:
Which of the CM10 ROM's offers the best battery life for the One X ?
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I'm using Tbaldens cm10 (a12 atm, a13 is available), and battery life has improved alot with the latest releases. Yesterday i got aprox 3h screen time with some light gaming, lots of music listening and browsing web and xda rest of the time. I cannot comment on other cm10 roms since i only been using this one.
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I'm using Tbaldens cm10 (a12 atm, a13 is available), and battery life has improved alot with the latest releases. Yesterday i got aprox 3h screen time with some light gaming, lots of music listening and browsing web and xda rest of the time. I cannot comment on other cm10 roms since i only been using this one.
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Does that CM10 ROM offer any customization like center clock in the status bar, or is it just a pure CM10 build only, no extras ?
I can imagine the screen on the One X has to look absolutely beautiful with the CM advanced color settings ?

Zorachus said:
Does that CM10 ROM offer any customization like center clock in the status bar, or is it just a pure CM10 build only, no extras ?
I can imagine the screen on the One X has to look absolutely beautiful with the CM advanced color settings ?
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It's pure... But fast I briefly tried some others with more customizations but they were not perfect smooth. I have gotten so used to it so it's hard to forget when trying other roms. You could look for standalone mods i guess if u would go with this one, however I'm not at all updated with content so don't know how much there is/what is available.
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Why don't you try Viper X (sense ROM), you can remove most sense UI bits and make it look very close to AOSP without compromising on battery life or other sense features (i.e: Camera, FM Radio)

Love the look of the stock JB ROMs, but the battery life just doesn't do it for me. I will suffer with Sense's look until more efficient ROMs are available.

sense by far
Zorachus said:
I am ditching Verizon, and my cool Galaxy Nexus, running CM10. Going to pick up an international One X to use on Straight Talk. I really love the gorgeous display on the One X, plus the sexy cool design as well. And I am burned out on my last few Samsung phones, for crappy GPS locking, and pissy radios and WiFi.
Anyways, I use my phone a lot during the day, and prefer battery life over cool whiz bang features. I have read people saying that Sense based ROM's offer much battery life over CM10 JB ROM's, is that true ?
I like the look and feel of stock Android Jellybean, but won't install a CM10 ROM if it has poor battery life, and am willing to give a good Sense ROM a shot if it will offer better battery life ?
Opinions wanted please, thanks.
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sense by far... (using cm10)

PhoenixFx said:
Why don't you try Viper X (sense ROM), you can remove most sense UI bits and make it look very close to AOSP without compromising on battery life or other sense features (i.e: Camera, FM Radio)
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I've used Viper (Sense) and a few CM10/AOKP ROMs and the non-sense ROMs have FAR, FAR inferior battery life.

PhoenixFx said:
Why don't you try Viper X (sense ROM), you can remove most sense UI bits and make it look very close to AOSP without compromising on battery life or other sense features (i.e: Camera, FM Radio)
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Which bits can you remove though? I for one cannot stand the Sense Dialer, Contact List, Gallery, SMS app and Music Player. If they can be replaced with stock ICS apps that would be pretty awesome.

I used have a GNex that ran on Minco v4 (Stolen, hope the thief rots in hell and the phone blows up in his hand to send him there), Now I have a OneX with ViperX 2.2.1 and Faux Kernel. The battery life is significantly better. I have tried JB roms in my HOX but all of them were a bit buggy and had very poor battery life. You should definitely go for a sense rom with faux kernel.
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Which bits can you remove though? I for one cannot stand the Sense Dialer, Contact List, Gallery, SMS app and Music Player. If they can be replaced with stock ICS apps that would be pretty awesome.
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Try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334. I use ViperX and it offered me to remove sense when it updated to 2.1. But that messed up the phone completely and I had to restore from a nandroid backup. But this rom seems to have a non-sense version and people don't seem to be complaining much. Maybe worth a try

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Love the look of the stock JB ROMs, but the battery life just doesn't do it for me. I will suffer with Sense's look until more efficient ROMs are available.
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how much screen time are you getting using sense ROMs. and mainly what do you use it on. because I'm pretty satisfied with my battery life on JB ROM.
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ricopoetra said:
how much screen time are you getting using sense ROMs. and mainly what do you use it on. because I'm pretty satisfied with my battery life on JB ROM.
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I was losing about 5% every 10 minutes with the screen on the lowest setting with any current Jelly Bean ROM.
I get 4+ hours on screen time at 50% brightness with OrDroid's SENSE based ROM.
I text a lot, words with friends, draw something, news apps, music...

I'm doing 4h ish too with paranoid android. mostly IMs twitter instagram. ebook reading and sometimes draw something. browsing if necessary.
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Wow, 4hrs is a lot! i barely get 2.5 hours + 45mins talk time on Ordroid with 3g usage at 3 hours and wifi during work. Came to this thread to see if any JB improvements had been made recently.
You guys on the stock Ordroid kernel? Underclocked?

I would use a good custom kernel. I'm currently using slim bean with ncx kernel and I get 4.5 hours of screen time.
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[Q] What custom ROM to choose?

So here I am, ready to root and all read up on the procedures and methods on how to root and so on, yet, one question remains;
What ROM do I choose?
I've been looking at various options, such as ARHD and CM10 nightly but even with all the reading of both presentations for popular ROM's and the threads themselves with feedback and so on from users, I still cannot decide which one to use, so I thought I'd reach out to the community!
I've got a list of certain requirements/desired software, but first I got to ask another question, with the official HTC JB update hiding just behind the next creek for me, with it quite possibly arriving next week for my area and type of phone, is it worth waiting until developers dissect it and take out the good parts and throwing the bad ones away and then merge it into their own creations?
Either way there are some requirements/wishes I have, such as;
Jellybean (4.1.1 or 4.1.2, but 4.1.2 is of course, prefered)
No bloat (I despise bloat)
Good Performance, I don't mind tweaks and optimizations, I'm all for it.
Better battery life, when the phone isn't in use, I realize that using more power through performance enhancements is paradoxal to this, so if good battery life when idle isn't at all possible with better performance, do tell!
Multilanguage (English language, but I need Swedish keyboard)
Flash support would be good, but it's not required. As far as I understood, they removed this in JB, but if I'm wrong, do tell!
I am indifferent to a sleek, non bloated version of Sense 4+, but with a new version of Sense coming in the JB update, this might not be optimal and the stock Android UI might be a better choice then.
Some of my friends in other circles recommended ASOP/ASOP K based ROM's, any comments on these?
This is pretty much it, if you got good suggestions or comments, please do tell!

Well you either want the benefits of Sense or you don't. Sense based roms are better in that they are optimised with the correct drivers and such. And sense is improved upon in the Jellybean builds. Only you can decide if you like sense and it's benefits or want a vanilla rom.
As for choosing a rom, try them all, pick one test it and monitor your battery life with your own usage if you don't like it try another and see if it improves on battery and such.
No one can say one rom offers better battery life over another as battery is totally user dependent based on their usage, type of data used, signal strength, etc.
If your phone has a matching CID for the current leaked JB roms then feel free to try any of the builds.
You can easily debloat manually by using root Explorer or even rom cleaner can debloat for you.
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nikzDHD said:
Well you either want the benefits of Sense or you don't. Sense based roms are better in that they are optimised with the correct drivers and such. And sense is improved upon in the Jellybean builds. Only you can decide if you like sense and it's benefits or want a vanilla rom.
As for choosing a rom, try them all, pick one test it and monitor your battery life with your own usage if you don't like it try another and see if it improves on battery and such.
No one can say one rom offers better battery life over another as battery is totally user dependent based on their usage, type of data used, signal strength, etc.
If your phone has a matching CID for the current leaked JB roms then feel free to try any of the builds.
You can easily debloat manually by using root Explorer or even rom cleaner can debloat for you.
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Alright, as I said I was indifferent, but if I have to choose, I'd rather use Sense than stock, so if you want to suggest a ROM, do go with Sense primarily.
I'm not one to reflash my phone all the time, I was back when I was younger, but today I prefer stable "don't need to touch again" software!
Yes, my phone have HTC_Y13 as it's CID, so it's compatible.
Thanks about the suggestion about using root explorer to debloat the phone, but in this case I'd rather prefer it not being installed at all in the first place.
As for battery lifelength, fair enough, but if there is a ROM that advertises it's amazing battery life it's a good point.
EDIT: Seeing as I'm leaning towards Sense, is there any point to getting a custom ROM with Sense 4.1 right now? If I need to reflash the phone in a week to get 4.5, I can't say it's all that compelling to root and flash this moment.

Try OrDroid but it's based of the HOX+ base the new version like ARHD12 and such based on the new X+ bases but their older versions are based on the leaked JB builds for HOX.
OrDroid has a handy app removal selection whilst installing in aroma to un install bloatware that comes installed.
And I've been getting good battery life from it.
But they are all very similar so bare that in mind. It's kernels that improve battery but no source code as of yet for the new JB kernels.
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nikzDHD said:
Try OrDroid but it's based of the HOX+ base the new version like ARHD12 and such based on the new X+ bases but their older versions are based on the leaked JB builds for HOX.
OrDroid has a handy app removal selection whilst installing in aroma to un install bloatware that comes installed.
And I've been getting good battery life from it.
But they are all very similar so bare that in mind. It's kernels that improve battery but no source code as of yet for the new JB kernels.
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If I read your post right, I shouldn't have any problems with using HOX+ based ROM's such as ARHD12 correct? Looks like ARHD is where it's at.

The biggest things I noticed with ARHD on my DHD were the huge optimisations in performance and battery life!

I have used both cyanogenmod nightly Builds and paranoid android on my international htc one x. Currently using PA. My advise would be to test both and more. Different strokes for different folks. Use apps like SwiftKey to help with language items and juice defender to help with the poor battery life of this device (as I watch it drop 2 percent as I write this message) I'm going to buy the Mugen battery pack!! Always backup up a good mod using Cwm!!! For fast swapping
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Great White said:
If I read your post right, I shouldn't have any problems with using HOX+ based ROM's such as ARHD12 correct? Looks like ARHD is where it's at.
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That's correct mate. It will work.
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