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Magic/ION/Google ROM on the Hero!

Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.

sonny88 said:
Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.
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I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)

deeren said:
I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
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To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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Please people, i don't want to be a jerk, but don't come up with questions like "Why did you buy a hero then?" ..

sonny88 said:
To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
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I'm on the same boat. When I bought my hero I hadn't really seen any working Android phone, either stock or HTC. Now that I have seen both I think that the stock apps and interface are somehow saner than HTC's, and what can I say? I'd prefer to use them.

Why don't you run the Rosie remover. It will get you part of the way to where you want to go

Indeed! but I also prefer the stock browser, the stock music player, the stock calendar, the stock contact list and dialer... and so on. They look less flashy but handier to my taste.

I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.

Actually, why do magic roms not work with the hero? What kind of modification would you have to do for them to work?

Fredriksen said:
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
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I think that the hero rom is not like the win rom. i mean all the htc customisations superimposed on the windows ones. There, all we had to do was just to remove the htc ones and we automatically got the windows ones.
I guess android's different. we have to remove all the htc customisations and add android's ones. Problem is hero never had the android's applications. what could be done is take a magic rom, remove all the applications and try to port them to the hero.
Problems would definetely arise cause the 2 phones are not 100% identical. some software work on the magic but not on hero bla bla bla.

I know some stock apps do work with the hero. I have been able to use the stock calendar and browser in my hero by replacing the apk and odex files, however replacing the contacts app makes it hang.
We could try to make a list of what apps can be replaced and how, or maybe even make update.zip files specific for that, similar to modaco's rosie remover. How difficult would that be?

sonny88 said:
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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I think that you'll probably find that the difference here is that chefs with a Magic or G1 actively want to "upgrade" to the latest and greatest ROMs. So, when presented with a Hero ROM, they will make the effort to back port it to the hardware they have.
The situation with the Hero is a little different. Here we already have the "latest and greatest", so there is probably very little motivation for a chef to port what is essentially an earlier ROM to the Hero. What you need to find is a chef who has a Hero, who either wants to run stock android, or is interesting in the intellectual challenge!
So, it's not really the case that "the magic can almost run any rom" - it's that their are chefs with Magics who are building these ROMs.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks guys!
I knew i wasn't the only one who wanted a clean vanilla android rom on the hero. Like frandavid100 said before, till there's another "magic rom" or something, we could make a list of apps working on hero.
I've had the same thing with the Contacts.app. This makes the phone freeze, and after removing the battery it constantly reboots.
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.

sonny88 said:
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE

frandavid100 said:
Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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I will do that tomorrow ok? I live in The Netherlands and its 09.35pm and i'm watching a movie
BTW: I also have a stock Magic/ION image. I can extract the apps from there as well. Tomorrow i'll try some apps.
Thanks for the effort guys!

Just another quick post. Below you'll see a list of apps which i'm going to try tomorrow. Please post request apps if i forget one.
- Contacts (probably doesn't work)
- Phone (unknown - probably same as contacts)
- Browser (probably works)
- Music Player (probably works)
- Messages/sms?
- Camera (unknown)
- Albums (probably no multitouch)
- Camcorder (don't know if this one is available)
- Calender (probably works)
- Calculator (unknown)
- Clock (don't know if this one is available)
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!

Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).

frandavid100 said:
Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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I am sorry.. i'm at my girlfriend and don't have my laptop with me tomorrow i'll post some links to different roms we can work with. But i can assure you they won't work on the hero.
Im also going to try to port the sapphire keyboard to the hero. Don't know if someone already did this, i haven't used google yet.

Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!

frandavid100 said:
Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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haha ok lol
I'm going to work on that list now.. wish me luck

sonny88 said:
BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
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Or you can just use the HTC lockscreen and press menu twice!
Regards,
Dave

[Q] HTC Desire HD Sound Quality

Hi,
I recently upgraded from an HTC Magic to an HTC Desire HD.
I noticed that the overall sound quality on the DHD is very poor.
I first noticed it when making a call, and the sound was very tinny. It sounded like the treble was turned way up, perhaps in an effort to increase clarity, which resulted in distortion and clipping. I suppose you could also describe it as a high pitched "buzz". I thought it might be the speaker, but ruled that out when I found the same result when using headphones or plugged into an external sound system.
The problem is noticeable in any situation:
a) The earpiece, when making calls
b) The loud speaker, when on speaker-phone or playing music
c) Line-out (headphones, speaker, sound systems, etc) for calls and music
d) Even just the "beep" the phone makes when you turn up the volume, or any other system sounds (high pitched ones obviously make the buzz more prevalent)
I did some searching online and found a few forum threads, and some people agree that it's not very good while others say it is fantastic.
The review on GSM Arena seems to agree that the SQ is lacking, but that seems to contradict what I've heard a lot of people on the forums say.
The main problem is that people have different opinions of what is acceptable, what is good, and what is not.
So, I created a video in attempt to demonstrate what I'm talking about.
I ask that you please watch it, and tell me if it sounds similar to your Desire HD, or if there is something wrong with mine. When comparing your phones to other makes or models, does yours sound a lot more trebley and tinny?
The first part of the video is a speakerphone comparison with a Samsung Galaxy S and my DHD. It's kind of hard to tell in the video, but it's clearly evident in person. I also included a line-out recording with the DHD and an HTC Magic, which I think illustrates the issue a bit better. The last part of the video is comparing audio, from a computer, an SGS, and the DHD. The volume from the SGS and the DHD were pretty low, so I had to boost them a bit in post-processing which does make the "tinny" clipped treble sound very apparent, albeit a little exaggerated.
This issue is less prevelent in some styles of music, so I will also include a link to the exact song used in my tests in case anyone would be so kind as to try playing it back on their device and see if they get the same result.
Tycho - Past is Prologue
I should also mention that SRS and Dolby and all that jazz don't make a difference -- while they do make some songs sound better, the high pitched "buzz" distortion is still present -- and since it's there with plain old system sounds, ringtones, calls, etc., I think it is fair to assume that the music EQ and effects don't really have anything to do with the issue.
Finally, here is the video (be sure to select 720p for optimum audio quality):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NBHydZ5g-g
I thank you for your time and your help!!
By the way, I am currently running Android Revolution HD 3.2 and my radio version is 12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M

hey there, please get the TELUS AUDIO FIX for your device
its a .zip
simple to install, just put it on the ROOT of your sdcard
then boot into recovery
i assume you know what recovery is because you have modded the phone
and apply update from zip
pick the telus.audio.fix.zip
give it 10-30 seconds
and boom fixed

RKALLOO said:
hey there, please get the TELUS AUDIO FIX for your device
its a .zip
simple to install, just put it on the ROOT of your sdcard
then boot into recovery
i assume you know what recovery is because you have modded the phone
and apply update from zip
pick the telus.audio.fix.zip
give it 10-30 seconds
and boom fixed
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The Telus audio fix is meant for the Telus DHD and shiftis didn't mention he has one.

Hawks556 said:
The Telus audio fix is meant for the Telus DHD and shiftis didn't mention he has one.
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While I am on the Rogers network, my DHD did originally come from Telus... Would that fix still apply to me?

Are you referring to the TurboniumX fix linked below, or is there more than one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11708309

the 2.2.1 update fixed it.. just update it
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kudoboi said:
the 2.2.1 update fixed it.. just update it
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I am running the most recent Revolution HD ROM (3.2), which is running 2.2.1
Furthermore, I just heard from the creator of the Revolution HD mod, who says that the "TurboniumX audio fix is included in the ROM".
I'm stumped.

i mean the official 2.2.1 update by htc
it adds makes it easier to text, fixs the lag on dhd, improve on camera, fixes major bugs and improves the audio by alot but i think u need to unroot to update
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kudoboi said:
i mean the official 2.2.1 update by htc
it adds makes it easier to text, fixs the lag on dhd, improve on camera, fixes major bugs and improves the audio by alot but i think u need to unroot to update
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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I'll leave that as a last resort, but if possible I'd like to find a solution that doesn't involve unrooting.

i dont think thr is..... thr r apps out thr but they are all for 2.1 and below
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If the official 2.2.1 update has the fix, I think the devs would have included or even improved it in their custom roms?

the update was released only yesterday
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I must have missed that. Which one is it? What is the version number?

Android Version: 2.2.1
Build number: 1.84.720.3 CL335251
Software number: 1.84.720.3
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That one was released the 15th already and only in India.

its released in the entire asia and in uk
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And getting back to the topic, what have you done so far? Did you find any solution? If not you could try reflashing the turboniumx audio fix even though it is included in the rom.

kudoboi said:
its released in the entire asia and in uk
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Apparently it's released in some other countries in asia too
http://www.htc.com/sea/support.aspx (sea standing for south east asia)
but not whole asia
http://www.htc.com/asia/support.aspx
and definitely not in europe nor uk
http://www.htc.com/europe/support.aspx
http://www.htc.com/uk/support.aspx

some said they recieved it in uk
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Hawks556 said:
And getting back to the topic, what have you done so far? Did you find any solution? If not you could try reflashing the turboniumx audio fix even though it is included in the rom.
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I haven't had a chance to try anything yet -- I am going to try re-flashing TurboniumX when I get home from work, and I'll report back.

HTC Desire Gingerbread UPDATE THIS WEEK

Please note that we are working now to release the 2.3 for HTC Desire.
Unfortunately we don’t have the name of the applications that will be removed from the update however you will be able to install them from Market.
Kindly follow our Facebook page in order to be aware of all the news. 20.05.2011

Yay! another thread on the same thing!! w00t!

Get used to it untill it's over it was the same deal through june, july and august prior to the froyo update last year.
Also great news for everyone on sense roms

this is the last news from htc suport

As long as the apps removed are not part of the sense experience.

Which is exactly the same as they have already stated on facebook, which is exactly the same as already stated in other posts.
/In reply to en_mih

Lord Zog said:
As long as the apps removed are not part of the sense experience.
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I still think they should reconsider and just move stuff from sense into htc hub - save space and make me happier if they shifted STOCKS off my phone!

Lothaen said:
I still think they should reconsider and just move stuff from sense into htc hub - save space and make me happier if they shifted STOCKS off my phone!
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+1
actually this solution would be there already as from the beginning, or this should not be a special workaround just for Desire from now on. We'll see it.
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also can you link us the link from your original source as looking on twitter and FB i couldnt see them reference anything new since last week.
I don't like having to edit custom rom's to remove the stock.apk out just to do something that should be optional anyway...
who uses stocks? no one - that's who.... (or at least I think the majority don't use it!)

im using the stock froyo:X because im waiting the update

Wrong stocks

OFFTOPIC: How many Threads whit same topic now open???
I think u can long wait en_mih - Vodafone need many time i think... :>

EddyOS said:
Wrong stocks
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system\app\stock.apk
system\app\com.htc.stockwidget.apk
that's the right one's isn't it?
along with
system\app\htcPlurk.apk
system\app\com.htc.plurkwidget.apk
edit: or were you referring to the comment about 'using stock froyo'

I'm using stock since yesterday... I've been using oxygen, smooth, very, very fast rom and brilliant battery life but today I discovered that MMS are not working at all on the correct settings. I've been reinstalling oxy etc. but no success.
Now I'm on stock froyo and I think that it's smoothier than some other roms from xda. (Sense 2.1+3.0 mixes)
No examples but like I said, no problematic and smooth rom.
I've been using custom roms for months, always some sh**... random reebots / USB speed problem (kernels and sh***)... Now I can say 'uff' - everything works.
Sry for my eng - polish native

Yes yes, stock rom is very stable and is fast, and waiting for ginger 2.3 stock.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Can anyone share link where can I find stock ROM?

yes - RUU link is in my sig and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869048

hey there one advantage of the Desire limited ROM Space, if HTC have to remove stuff to get 2.3 out.. then surely there no room for the Carriers to put in all there junk... or will they just have a hish fit cause they can't put there junk on and so not roll out there own 2.3
phew glad i am on an unbranded handset

kazgor said:
hey there one advantage of the Desire limited ROM Space, if HTC have to remove stuff to get 2.3 out.. then surely there no room for the Carriers to put in all there junk... or will they just have a hish fit cause they can't put there junk on and so not roll out there own 2.3
phew glad i am on an unbranded handset
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Yeah I was thinking that myself! Actually my Desire was originally Orange (Spain) branded and they had put all this awful bloatware on it so that was my original reason for rooting and good thing too! I think Orange are the worst for it, though I've heard Vodafone are pretty bad too...

I'm on Vodafone but there is no bloatware on my device. Not even a Vodafone logo.
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[Q] Need assistance with Android, moved away from iOS.

Hello everyone,
I have done quite a bit of research over the past few days but I am quite overwhelmed and confused, I thought I will post my questions here as I am now a proud owner of a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact.
I ended up winning a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact from a work competition just the other day, before then I was using my iPhone 4 ever since it came out. I have never owned an Android device, I wish to root it mostly to theme the device. I have tried the Themer application in the Playstore which is fantastic in it's own right, but it doesn't let me create my own. I'm a huge Apple person and I ended up Jailbreaking all my iDevices so I wish to get some of that power out of my Android phone.
1. How harmful is it to root, unlock bootloader etc?.. I would imagine it is no different than Jailbreaking.
2. Am I able to store absolutely everything on the SD card when it comes to applications and tweaks?
3. Is it possible to remap the physical buttons to do other things?
4. I have came across Cyanogen quite a lot, is it stable and will I notice any speed issues compared to stock OS?
5. Is there a "Tweak store" of sorts to download all the extra stuff after rooting the device, similar to "Cydia" for iDevices?
I would really appreciate some assistance, I do apologize once again for being extremely new. It's just a little complicated when you hear there are so many versions of Android and rooting tools for individual devices!

Hi, I do not own the device but I've been in Sony and Android ecosystem for quiet long. So I can probably answer most of your questions.
1. Its not harmful at all! In fact since Sony devices don't get hard bricked you can't go wrong with it!
2. You can, once rooted! Ofc, you'll need mod of some kind.
3. Yup!
4. Speed issues? Probably not! But you might lose several functionalities, major one being the Camera quality. As Sony camera works as great as it is on stock only.
5. This forum is your tweak store.

KyleSforza said:
Hi, I do not own the device but I've been in Sony and Android ecosystem for quiet long. So I can probably answer most of your questions.
1. Its not harmful at all! In fact since Sony devices don't get hard bricked you can't go wrong with it!
2. You can, once rooted! Ofc, you'll need mod of some kind.
3. Yup!
4. Speed issues? Probably not! But you might lose several functionalities, major one being the Camera quality. As Sony camera works as great as it is on stock only.
5. This forum is your tweak store.
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Thanks for getting back to me very quickly. I did not know Sony devices cannot get hard bricked. So you're saying whatever I do to it software wise, I cannot not physically render the phone useless?
How bad is the camera quality once you root? is it very noticeable, are people trying to improve the quality?
I will definitely have browse this forum more, is there a particular place you would suggest or should I just stay in the Z1 Compact thread?

Happy_todd said:
Thanks for getting back to me very quickly. I did not know Sony devices cannot get hard bricked. So you're saying whatever I do to it software wise, I cannot not physically render the phone useless?
How bad is the camera quality once you root? is it very noticeable, are people trying to improve the quality?
I will definitely have browse this forum more, is there a particular place you would suggest or should I just stay in the Z1 Compact thread?
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I've been using Sony (ericsson) devices since forever and I can tell you you'll love it. About the brick - feel safe. Whatever goes wrong with the phone just flash the original stock FTF firmware via Flashtool and your phone is like new. It's not necessary to switch to CyanogenMod as Sony's firmware is very smooth and fast on our devices thanks to the hardware and the lower resolution. You can just root and install one of the stock based roms in the development section. No need to unlock and you can get 4K video and 120fps slow motion video without losing picture quality
Edit: You don't lose quality when you root. Sony uses bionz image processor which requires the bootloader to be locked to work. If you unlock your BL you will have pictures with colder colors (from my observations) and more noise since Bionz is not processing the shots.

omegastarr said:
I've been using Sony (ericsson) devices since forever and I can tell you you'll love it. About the brick - feel safe. Whatever goes wrong with the phone just flash the original stock FTF firmware via Flashtool and your phone is like new. It's not necessary to switch to CyanogenMod as Sony's firmware is very smooth and fast on our devices thanks to the hardware and the lower resolution. You can just root and install one of the stock based roms in the development section. No need to unlock and you can get 4K video and 120fps slow motion video without losing picture quality
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No loss of picture quality, that's contradicting with what KyleSforza said. If something did go wrong with the device, and I flashed back to the original stock FTF firmware, will it leave traces of the root on my phone in case I had to send the handset back for warranty repair or anything?.. Also how does one obtain the original stock firmware, would that be in the development section or on Sonys website somewhere? Thanks so much!

Happy_todd said:
No loss of picture quality, that's contradicting with what KyleSforza said. If something did go wrong with the device, and I flashed back to the original stock FTF firmware, will it leave traces of the root on my phone in case I had to send the handset back for warranty repair or anything?.. Also how does one obtain the original stock firmware, would that be in the development section or on Sonys website somewhere? Thanks so much!
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Look my edited post, I have explained why picture quality gets bad. As long as you use stock based firmware on locked bootloader (BL) you will not lose quality. About the warranty - I think rooting does not drop it but unlocking the BL does. You need to read some of the threads in this section before doing anything. When you flash the FTF everything goes back to stock and you will lose the root. As long as you BL is locked and you are on stock firmware your warranty is not voided.
Edit: You can find FTFs in the development section as well

I am using CyanogenMod and it is obviously better than Sony stock ROM.. Just two issues I have faced on CyanogenMod.. Sound volume is very low and camera quality is also bad.. Except these two, everything is more stable than stock ROM..
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact

1. How harmful is it to root, unlock bootloader etc?.. I would imagine it is no different than Jailbreaking.
Rooting is a bit more work than jailbreaking, because no simple one-click-method esists anymore/yet/at the moment. A rooted device allows you to modify EVERYTHING there is on your device (software wise). This naturally brings some dangers, such as losing all your data, or bricking it. As the posters above already stated, it is quite hard to do lasting damage to your phone. Overclocking and removing overheat protection might, but other than software-induced hardware damage, it is nearly imposible. Keep in mid that playing with partitions might require you to open the device to repair the software.
Additionally, rooting via Bootloader unlocking* removes Sony's DRM-Keys. This mainly stops Xreality and the Bionz image processor from working. it is possible to back up those keys, and i would recomend doing that. It complicates rooting a lot, but makes it possible to go back to a 100% stock phone if you ever want to. they are located in their own partition (TA). flashing another TA partition than your own will also cause your phone to be permanently broken.
2. Am I able to store absolutely everything on the SD card when it comes to applications and tweaks?
You should be able to, yes. I am however not sure how you mean that. Some tweaks like init.d scripts need to be in the system folder, as have some of the apps. It is certainly possible to have them elsewhere, but it will require some effort. Why do you want to have everything on the external memory?
3. Is it possible to remap the physical buttons to do other things?
Yes.
4. I have came across Cyanogen quite a lot, is it stable and will I notice any speed issues compared to stock OS?
CM is stable, yes. they have "Snapshot" builds, which are lightly quality tested (boots, features work as they should in most usecases, etc) and nightlies. Nightlies are builds that are generated automatically every night by a bot (3 actually) and are also quite stable. But it can happen that there are mayor bugs (not booting, stuff crashing left, right and center...), specially at the beginning of merging a nes Android release. rolling back to the last working FW will normally fix that.
Speed is normally faster because it has less bloatware.
5. Is there a "Tweak store" of sorts to download all the extra stuff after rooting the device, similar to "Cydia" for iDevices?
No. You have t find it yourself and sideloas the *.apk. Be careful with what you install. Stuff on the forum should be fine, because other able coders quite quickly raise awareness if something's not right. For Xposed there is a dedicated repo which you can access from the module itself.
there are so many versions of Android and rooting tools for individual devices!
This is the reason why there are device specific forums. Stay here for everything device-related. There are special forums for non-device-specific stuff as apps and certain tweaks.
I hope this celaned up some questions, if you still have some: read, read, read! learn, and do not be hasty in the beginning. Or just ask me...
oh, and:
coolkoushik07 said:
I am using CyanogenMod and it is obviously better than Sony stock ROM.. Just two issues I have faced on CyanogenMod.. Sound volume is very low and camera quality is also bad.. Except these two, everything is more stable than stock ROM..
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This can in no way be generalized like that. tastes are different, and everyone should decide by themselves.

coolkoushik07 said:
I am using CyanogenMod and it is obviously better than Sony stock ROM.. Just two issues I have faced on CyanogenMod.. Sound volume is very low and camera quality is also bad.. Except these two, everything is more stable than stock ROM..
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact
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I don't see where CM is "obviously" better, stock ROMs lack functions but a rooted stock with Xposed is pretty close to some third party ROMs. As Coirpre already said, that's a matter of personal preferences. And CM is far from being more stable than any stock ROM. E.g., last time I tried CM and all ROMs based on it completely prevented using encryption because the sensors didn't work. Tethering's also still broken iirc, among several other things judging by the corresponding thread.

Iruwen said:
I don't see where CM is "obviously" better, stock ROMs lack functions but a rooted stock with Xposed is pretty close to some third party ROMs. As Coirpre already said, that's a matter of personal preferences. And CM is far from being more stable than any stock ROM. E.g., last time I tried CM and all ROMs based on it completely prevented using encryption because the sensors didn't work. Tethering's also still broken iirc, among several other things judging by the corresponding thread.
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tethering is working in cm latest nightly.. in stock rom there is over heating prob, notification sound stuttering prob, 'while playing hd games cant charge phone' bug, is that u call a stable rom? lol.. also i am getting better battery backup on cm... u must be a light user and u can only realize these issues on heavy usage..
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If you unlock your BL you will have pictures with colder colors (from my observations) and more noise since Bionz is not processing the shots.
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That's the first I have heard of this. Has anyone else confirmed this?

Well try it and see for yourself. A very detailed post was made in one of the z1 threads and the pictures were clearly showing that. I can't remember in which thread was that because it was more than a month ago.

coolkoushik07 said:
tethering is working in cm latest nightly.. in stock rom there is over heating prob, notification sound stuttering prob, 'while playing hd games cant charge phone' bug, is that u call a stable rom? lol.. also i am getting better battery backup on cm... u must be a light user and u can only realize these issues on heavy usage..
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Your reading comprehension is lacking, I didn't say there are no issues with stock ROMs.

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Your reading comprehension is lacking, I didn't say there are no issues with stock ROMs.
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read ur own text again.. ur 1st statement was, u cant see where cm is obviously better.. and u told that cm is not stable. then tell me a rom which is more stable.. ur common sense is also lacking lol..
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I don't see where CM is "obviously" better, stock ROMs lack functions but a rooted stock with Xposed is pretty close to some third party ROMs. As Coirpre already said, that's a matter of personal preferences. And CM is far from being more stable than any stock ROM. E.g., last time I tried CM and all ROMs based on it completely prevented using encryption because the sensors didn't work. Tethering's also still broken iirc, among several other things judging by the corresponding thread.
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coolkoushik07 said:
tethering is working in cm latest nightly.. in stock rom there is over heating prob, notification sound stuttering prob, 'while playing hd games cant charge phone' bug, is that u call a stable rom? lol.. also i am getting better battery backup on cm... u must be a light user and u can only realize these issues on heavy usage..
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Go playing somewhere else, this is not the topic of this thread!
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Well try it and see for yourself. A very detailed post was made in one of the z1 threads and the pictures were clearly showing that. I can't remember in which thread was that because it was more than a month ago.
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could you refind it for us? you know the title and the time, and which subforum it was. woud be much quicker than us scouring th forums
EDIT: Thanks! that really is interesting. I might have to relock the BL...

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Go playing somewhere else, this is not the topic of this thread!
could you refind it for us? you know the title and the time, and which subforum it was. woud be much quicker than us scouring th forums
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what are u talking about? Did u ever read what op asked about? Don't just pass a comment, read thread before posting such a comment.. You should note that this is not a place for trolling.. And u better learn urself how to avoid being off topic..
and yes my this post (just to reply you) is off topic and u r the reason for being off topic..
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Hi,
camera aside, cm is great. It has lots of customization options and as long as you don't use your phone as MAIN camera device this is the rom for you. However, if you use this 20mpix beast then don't bother with CM. The second someone manages to port stock camera or implement camera as good as stock, cm will win most of users. Again, final decision is up to the user.
Wysłane z mojego Nexus 7 przy użyciu Tapatalka

15 minutes lost from my precious time
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52658590&postcount=67

[Q] What do people love about cyanogen mod?

This is my first phone with the capabilities to flash custom Roms and so far I've flashed most of the Roms available for the m9. I have my favorites.
But I've noticed that cyanogen mod has a huge following. What is it that makes this rom so famous? What are the pros and con's of the rom?
I saw that the beta version is out and would love to hear opinions on the rom to buy some time until a stable version is ready for me to test drive.
Thanks for your input
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Cyanogen mod is among one of the oldest full-featured android ROMS available. It has survived for so long since it is highly customizable, fast, stable, and gets good battery life. I'd definitely give it a go if you are curious about it. If you don't like it you can always restore from a backup or flash another rom.

I think a major factor in choosing to use it is that it's completely "de-bloated". There is no OEM crap taking up space and wasting battery.
Sure, most of us disable those things or uninstall them with Ti Backup, but it's just so much cleaner never to have had them.
It's really quick, and since it's based on AOSP, a lot more Xposed modules and customizers wwork with it (Like GravityBox, for example).
You should definitely try it out if you're curious. You'll probably like it.
The only downside is that the nightly builds and betas can be slightly dodgy sometimes (though the beta that's out is pretty good, minus the camera) and that since it's closer to a Vanilla android feel than OEM skins, you usually lose some of the device's unique software functionality. (Sometimes these can be re-downloaded from the play store, other times they just won't work)
Make a nandroid (or whatever we call these now. TWRP Backup?) and give it a go!

Thanks. I found this earlier explaining a little. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Main_Page
I still appreciate your opinions and would love to hear more. If there is anything more to add. These guys explained it well.

bigp951 said:
Thanks. I found this earlier explaining a little. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Main_Page
I still appreciate your opinions and would love to hear more. If there is anything more to add. These guys explained it well.
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If you have any questions or I can help with anything just let me know!

On HTC phone I don't use CM nor MIUI, the last time I did was on Nexus 1 years ago.
Though it should be good on samsung and LG + sense 7 port from xpirt

Thanks. @vivremetrique I recognize your name from the cm rom post. Are you one of the devs of the rom? I plan on flashing it soon. But I am going to wait for the camera to get fixed first. Also, will there be any sound mods like viper4android or just an amp?
I'm not sure if its the current rom I'm on or the firmware but it seems like my music isn't as loud as it was a few weeks ago.
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bigp951 said:
Thanks. @vivremetrique I recognize your name from the cm rom post. Are you one of the devs of the rom? I plan on flashing it soon. But I am going to wait for the camera to get fixed first. Also, will there be any sound mods like viper4android or just an amp?
I'm not sure if its the current rom I'm on or the firmware but it seems like my music isn't as loud as it was a few weeks ago.
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No, I'm not one of the devs, just an "enthusiastic" tester and user
I'm really not sure about the sound mods, but I'd imagine that eventually v4a would work properly.
(If it doesn't already, this thread suggests that someone was able to get it working by changing SELinux mode to permissive, but it doesn't seem to have worked for everyone. You can always try it!)
I haven't updated my firmware recently so I'm not sure if an update may have affected sound volume (I'm not sure if you've updated your firmware either, but the CM Beta only works on 1.32.x so far anyway )

vivremetrique said:
No, I'm not one of the devs, just an "enthusiastic" tester and user
I'm really not sure about the sound mods, but I'd imagine that eventually v4a would work properly.
(If it doesn't already, this thread suggests that someone was able to get it working by changing SELinux mode to permissive, but it doesn't seem to have worked for everyone. You can always try it!)
I haven't updated my firmware recently so I'm not sure if an update may have affected sound volume (I'm not sure if you've updated your firmware either, but the CM Beta only works on 1.32.x so far anyway )
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Thanks for the link. I didn't know that v4a was actually in the play store. I've only seen it in a custom rom. I actually have the selinux permission app already so definitely worth the try.
I'm on the new 2.8 developers edition firmware right now. But being as flashing firmware is so easy I can switch anytime. Am definitely going to follow the progress of cm and when it looks like most of the bugs are worked out I'll give it a try. Can't really run a beta on my phone because it is my daily driver.

You're welcome!
Keep in mind that you might need to be S-Off in order to tinker with firmware beyond updating it
(On some devices you need S-Off to downgrade or flash unsigned)

I am s-off thanks. Coming from my locked bootloader vzw s3 to this has been amazing. So I've unlocked everything to allow me full flexibility and freedom to customize as I see fit. I may never buy a carrier phone again.
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