Hello everyone,
I have done quite a bit of research over the past few days but I am quite overwhelmed and confused, I thought I will post my questions here as I am now a proud owner of a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact.
I ended up winning a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact from a work competition just the other day, before then I was using my iPhone 4 ever since it came out. I have never owned an Android device, I wish to root it mostly to theme the device. I have tried the Themer application in the Playstore which is fantastic in it's own right, but it doesn't let me create my own. I'm a huge Apple person and I ended up Jailbreaking all my iDevices so I wish to get some of that power out of my Android phone.
1. How harmful is it to root, unlock bootloader etc?.. I would imagine it is no different than Jailbreaking.
2. Am I able to store absolutely everything on the SD card when it comes to applications and tweaks?
3. Is it possible to remap the physical buttons to do other things?
4. I have came across Cyanogen quite a lot, is it stable and will I notice any speed issues compared to stock OS?
5. Is there a "Tweak store" of sorts to download all the extra stuff after rooting the device, similar to "Cydia" for iDevices?
I would really appreciate some assistance, I do apologize once again for being extremely new. It's just a little complicated when you hear there are so many versions of Android and rooting tools for individual devices!
Hi, I do not own the device but I've been in Sony and Android ecosystem for quiet long. So I can probably answer most of your questions.
1. Its not harmful at all! In fact since Sony devices don't get hard bricked you can't go wrong with it!
2. You can, once rooted! Ofc, you'll need mod of some kind.
3. Yup!
4. Speed issues? Probably not! But you might lose several functionalities, major one being the Camera quality. As Sony camera works as great as it is on stock only.
5. This forum is your tweak store.
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Hi, I do not own the device but I've been in Sony and Android ecosystem for quiet long. So I can probably answer most of your questions.
1. Its not harmful at all! In fact since Sony devices don't get hard bricked you can't go wrong with it!
2. You can, once rooted! Ofc, you'll need mod of some kind.
3. Yup!
4. Speed issues? Probably not! But you might lose several functionalities, major one being the Camera quality. As Sony camera works as great as it is on stock only.
5. This forum is your tweak store.
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Thanks for getting back to me very quickly. I did not know Sony devices cannot get hard bricked. So you're saying whatever I do to it software wise, I cannot not physically render the phone useless?
How bad is the camera quality once you root? is it very noticeable, are people trying to improve the quality?
I will definitely have browse this forum more, is there a particular place you would suggest or should I just stay in the Z1 Compact thread?
Happy_todd said:
Thanks for getting back to me very quickly. I did not know Sony devices cannot get hard bricked. So you're saying whatever I do to it software wise, I cannot not physically render the phone useless?
How bad is the camera quality once you root? is it very noticeable, are people trying to improve the quality?
I will definitely have browse this forum more, is there a particular place you would suggest or should I just stay in the Z1 Compact thread?
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I've been using Sony (ericsson) devices since forever and I can tell you you'll love it. About the brick - feel safe. Whatever goes wrong with the phone just flash the original stock FTF firmware via Flashtool and your phone is like new. It's not necessary to switch to CyanogenMod as Sony's firmware is very smooth and fast on our devices thanks to the hardware and the lower resolution. You can just root and install one of the stock based roms in the development section. No need to unlock and you can get 4K video and 120fps slow motion video without losing picture quality
Edit: You don't lose quality when you root. Sony uses bionz image processor which requires the bootloader to be locked to work. If you unlock your BL you will have pictures with colder colors (from my observations) and more noise since Bionz is not processing the shots.
omegastarr said:
I've been using Sony (ericsson) devices since forever and I can tell you you'll love it. About the brick - feel safe. Whatever goes wrong with the phone just flash the original stock FTF firmware via Flashtool and your phone is like new. It's not necessary to switch to CyanogenMod as Sony's firmware is very smooth and fast on our devices thanks to the hardware and the lower resolution. You can just root and install one of the stock based roms in the development section. No need to unlock and you can get 4K video and 120fps slow motion video without losing picture quality
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No loss of picture quality, that's contradicting with what KyleSforza said. If something did go wrong with the device, and I flashed back to the original stock FTF firmware, will it leave traces of the root on my phone in case I had to send the handset back for warranty repair or anything?.. Also how does one obtain the original stock firmware, would that be in the development section or on Sonys website somewhere? Thanks so much!
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No loss of picture quality, that's contradicting with what KyleSforza said. If something did go wrong with the device, and I flashed back to the original stock FTF firmware, will it leave traces of the root on my phone in case I had to send the handset back for warranty repair or anything?.. Also how does one obtain the original stock firmware, would that be in the development section or on Sonys website somewhere? Thanks so much!
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Look my edited post, I have explained why picture quality gets bad. As long as you use stock based firmware on locked bootloader (BL) you will not lose quality. About the warranty - I think rooting does not drop it but unlocking the BL does. You need to read some of the threads in this section before doing anything. When you flash the FTF everything goes back to stock and you will lose the root. As long as you BL is locked and you are on stock firmware your warranty is not voided.
Edit: You can find FTFs in the development section as well
I am using CyanogenMod and it is obviously better than Sony stock ROM.. Just two issues I have faced on CyanogenMod.. Sound volume is very low and camera quality is also bad.. Except these two, everything is more stable than stock ROM..
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1. How harmful is it to root, unlock bootloader etc?.. I would imagine it is no different than Jailbreaking.
Rooting is a bit more work than jailbreaking, because no simple one-click-method esists anymore/yet/at the moment. A rooted device allows you to modify EVERYTHING there is on your device (software wise). This naturally brings some dangers, such as losing all your data, or bricking it. As the posters above already stated, it is quite hard to do lasting damage to your phone. Overclocking and removing overheat protection might, but other than software-induced hardware damage, it is nearly imposible. Keep in mid that playing with partitions might require you to open the device to repair the software.
Additionally, rooting via Bootloader unlocking* removes Sony's DRM-Keys. This mainly stops Xreality and the Bionz image processor from working. it is possible to back up those keys, and i would recomend doing that. It complicates rooting a lot, but makes it possible to go back to a 100% stock phone if you ever want to. they are located in their own partition (TA). flashing another TA partition than your own will also cause your phone to be permanently broken.
2. Am I able to store absolutely everything on the SD card when it comes to applications and tweaks?
You should be able to, yes. I am however not sure how you mean that. Some tweaks like init.d scripts need to be in the system folder, as have some of the apps. It is certainly possible to have them elsewhere, but it will require some effort. Why do you want to have everything on the external memory?
3. Is it possible to remap the physical buttons to do other things?
Yes.
4. I have came across Cyanogen quite a lot, is it stable and will I notice any speed issues compared to stock OS?
CM is stable, yes. they have "Snapshot" builds, which are lightly quality tested (boots, features work as they should in most usecases, etc) and nightlies. Nightlies are builds that are generated automatically every night by a bot (3 actually) and are also quite stable. But it can happen that there are mayor bugs (not booting, stuff crashing left, right and center...), specially at the beginning of merging a nes Android release. rolling back to the last working FW will normally fix that.
Speed is normally faster because it has less bloatware.
5. Is there a "Tweak store" of sorts to download all the extra stuff after rooting the device, similar to "Cydia" for iDevices?
No. You have t find it yourself and sideloas the *.apk. Be careful with what you install. Stuff on the forum should be fine, because other able coders quite quickly raise awareness if something's not right. For Xposed there is a dedicated repo which you can access from the module itself.
there are so many versions of Android and rooting tools for individual devices!
This is the reason why there are device specific forums. Stay here for everything device-related. There are special forums for non-device-specific stuff as apps and certain tweaks.
I hope this celaned up some questions, if you still have some: read, read, read! learn, and do not be hasty in the beginning. Or just ask me...
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coolkoushik07 said:
I am using CyanogenMod and it is obviously better than Sony stock ROM.. Just two issues I have faced on CyanogenMod.. Sound volume is very low and camera quality is also bad.. Except these two, everything is more stable than stock ROM..
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This can in no way be generalized like that. tastes are different, and everyone should decide by themselves.
coolkoushik07 said:
I am using CyanogenMod and it is obviously better than Sony stock ROM.. Just two issues I have faced on CyanogenMod.. Sound volume is very low and camera quality is also bad.. Except these two, everything is more stable than stock ROM..
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I don't see where CM is "obviously" better, stock ROMs lack functions but a rooted stock with Xposed is pretty close to some third party ROMs. As Coirpre already said, that's a matter of personal preferences. And CM is far from being more stable than any stock ROM. E.g., last time I tried CM and all ROMs based on it completely prevented using encryption because the sensors didn't work. Tethering's also still broken iirc, among several other things judging by the corresponding thread.
Iruwen said:
I don't see where CM is "obviously" better, stock ROMs lack functions but a rooted stock with Xposed is pretty close to some third party ROMs. As Coirpre already said, that's a matter of personal preferences. And CM is far from being more stable than any stock ROM. E.g., last time I tried CM and all ROMs based on it completely prevented using encryption because the sensors didn't work. Tethering's also still broken iirc, among several other things judging by the corresponding thread.
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tethering is working in cm latest nightly.. in stock rom there is over heating prob, notification sound stuttering prob, 'while playing hd games cant charge phone' bug, is that u call a stable rom? lol.. also i am getting better battery backup on cm... u must be a light user and u can only realize these issues on heavy usage..
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If you unlock your BL you will have pictures with colder colors (from my observations) and more noise since Bionz is not processing the shots.
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That's the first I have heard of this. Has anyone else confirmed this?
Well try it and see for yourself. A very detailed post was made in one of the z1 threads and the pictures were clearly showing that. I can't remember in which thread was that because it was more than a month ago.
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tethering is working in cm latest nightly.. in stock rom there is over heating prob, notification sound stuttering prob, 'while playing hd games cant charge phone' bug, is that u call a stable rom? lol.. also i am getting better battery backup on cm... u must be a light user and u can only realize these issues on heavy usage..
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Your reading comprehension is lacking, I didn't say there are no issues with stock ROMs.
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Your reading comprehension is lacking, I didn't say there are no issues with stock ROMs.
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read ur own text again.. ur 1st statement was, u cant see where cm is obviously better.. and u told that cm is not stable. then tell me a rom which is more stable.. ur common sense is also lacking lol..
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Iruwen said:
I don't see where CM is "obviously" better, stock ROMs lack functions but a rooted stock with Xposed is pretty close to some third party ROMs. As Coirpre already said, that's a matter of personal preferences. And CM is far from being more stable than any stock ROM. E.g., last time I tried CM and all ROMs based on it completely prevented using encryption because the sensors didn't work. Tethering's also still broken iirc, among several other things judging by the corresponding thread.
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coolkoushik07 said:
tethering is working in cm latest nightly.. in stock rom there is over heating prob, notification sound stuttering prob, 'while playing hd games cant charge phone' bug, is that u call a stable rom? lol.. also i am getting better battery backup on cm... u must be a light user and u can only realize these issues on heavy usage..
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Go playing somewhere else, this is not the topic of this thread!
omegastarr said:
Well try it and see for yourself. A very detailed post was made in one of the z1 threads and the pictures were clearly showing that. I can't remember in which thread was that because it was more than a month ago.
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could you refind it for us? you know the title and the time, and which subforum it was. woud be much quicker than us scouring th forums
EDIT: Thanks! that really is interesting. I might have to relock the BL...
Coirpre said:
Go playing somewhere else, this is not the topic of this thread!
could you refind it for us? you know the title and the time, and which subforum it was. woud be much quicker than us scouring th forums
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what are u talking about? Did u ever read what op asked about? Don't just pass a comment, read thread before posting such a comment.. You should note that this is not a place for trolling.. And u better learn urself how to avoid being off topic..
and yes my this post (just to reply you) is off topic and u r the reason for being off topic..
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Hi,
camera aside, cm is great. It has lots of customization options and as long as you don't use your phone as MAIN camera device this is the rom for you. However, if you use this 20mpix beast then don't bother with CM. The second someone manages to port stock camera or implement camera as good as stock, cm will win most of users. Again, final decision is up to the user.
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Do you guys think the ICS update will make the interface of our Arc look like the one of Xperia S?
Because I was watching some demos and it looks incredible , especially the music player is way better than the stock one on Arc. I noticed that a certain user called FlamEmo managed to port the Xperia S theme to Arc, and it seems to be working alright, other than some bugs, so I assume there would be no problem such as "Arc is not powerful enough" or stuff like that, so SE really has no excuse not to give that interface (or an improved version of it, since XS has 2.3.7 right now) to every 2011 Xperia phone with ICS.
And my second question, can you tell me exactly what happens if you unlock the bootloader? And by that I mean, which features are lost, which limitations are introduced as soon as you unlock it?
Thanks in advance and have a nice day
Unlocking bootloader you will lose warranty, erase some sectors, hability to set custom kernels...
And yes, ICS will be equal to Xperia S, but when SE release and official rom, or XDA guys exchange a new ROm
About the bootloader unlock, I meant if it would cause me to lose some functionality on stock apps and stuff like that. I've heard the music widget, TrackID and some other stuff stops working if you unlock. Where can I find a complete list of things that stop working or change when you unlock the bootloader? I want to know because I'd like to try CM but obviously I can't without unlocking.
Also, if they really improve upon the S theme and bring it to every Xperia with ICS, that would be seriously awesome. Have they officially commented about that?
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About the bootloader unlock, I meant if it would cause me to lose some functionality on stock apps and stuff like that. .
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There are 2 things not working after unlocking:
TrackID (but keep in mind that there is already a market edition)
MusicLike in FB
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Have they officially commented about that?
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I haven't heard such stuff.
But I think SE/Sony will do their best (and that's always great, imo).
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There are 2 things not working after unlocking:
TrackID (but keep in mind that there is already a market edition)
MusicLike in FB
I haven't heard such stuff.
But I think SE/Sony will do their best (and that's always great, imo).
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Thanks man. I don't care about Facebook (I may be one of the very few on the planet that don't use it) or TrackID (actually, I liked it for identifying tracks over the radio, but I can live without that. I haven't tried the market version yet). What about bricking with updates? ICS is coming and I wouldn't like it if I could not update instantly, but I assume someone will make a flashtool flashable version quite soon. Can I update normally using SEUS even if I'm unlocked?
That would be all, and thanks.
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What about bricking with updates?
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Don't use any OTAs and it won't happen.
But either way there's a sticky thread in developement section.
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Can I update normally using SEUS even if I'm unlocked?
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After you relocked your BL, yess.
Looks like yesterday (04/13/2013) the Sony Xperia ZL has been introduced into the list of CyanogenMod's officially supported devices (Wiki and CM ROM download page)!
That's some excellent news!!! :laugh:
Sony Xperia ZL CM Wiki Page
Sony Xperia ZL (Odin) Latest Nightly Build Download page
I got my ZL last week and I absolutely love it (one C6502 and one C6503. Not sure which one I'll get to keep/sell... Currently there's no 4G LTE coverage where I live in Brazil).
On 04/16/2013 I decided that I'll keep the C6503. So I unlocked its bootloader via Sony's Developer original method and then I just followed the Odin's Wiki page walkthrough for flashing CM 10.1 to my phone. It all worked out perfectly. Hint: To get into CWM recovery you have to press and release the volume up and down at the same time a few times (until the led turns purple) when you turn on the device. It took me a while to get it right. I was used to my SGS where you just have to press power+volume up to get to recovery. A lot easier in my opinion.
A little history: I've been using a Samsung Galaxy S i9000 since Feb 2011 (now running latest CM 10.1 nightly). I love it to death and now I use it as a secondary-backup-work phone (specially when I travel abroad on GSM/HSDPA only networks). If it wasn't for the CyanogenMod community (particularly Pawitp and Stratosk) my phone would've been long dead along with Gingerbread 2.3.3... $am$ung has lost my business with its unfriendly developer support and ugly-ass colored phones and UI, girly looking round phones starting with the Samsung Galaxy S 3 and 4.
Please let me know if there's something new on those pages above, if I notice something new I'll keep you guys posted!
Cheers!
For those interested, here's some of the bugs I've experienced/noticed while using latest official CM 10.1 nightly:
When my phone is locked with the screen black (locked), after I push the power button, the screen lights up, and even though I did not unlock the phone, I'm able to change volume settings by pressing the volume rocker. This should not happen unless there's a video or audio playing in the background.
***Update: his hasn't been "fixed", apparently that's the new behavior and it's going to be that way – period.
When I push the power button to unlock the phone there's a short lag until the display comes 'alive' (others have mentioned this as well).
***Update: Fixed!
When I connect the phone to my stereo Bluetooth speakers by Logitech to listen to online music through 'A Online Radio', the phone goes to sleep as it normally does after a little while. If I try to wake up the phone it will freeze. I have to press the reset button to reboot phone.
***Update: bluetooth connection has been fixed, but now there's another bug that cuts the first 2 seconds off a song when it first starts playing or whatever you skip between tracks.
Wi-Fi is switching itself off a while after the phone sleeps. Regardless of setting for being always on. I've also noticed that the Wi-Fi resets itself randomly then I wake up the phone.
***Update: fixed (apparently)
It is taking significantly longer to fully charge the battery when compared to the stock Sony ROM (original Sony's charger used). And while the phone is being used sometimes it doesn't charge at all. You can see by the graph that it is depleting the battery instead of charging it. I'll try to take a snapshot of it.
***Update: that has been fixed, but if your phone is too warm, it won't charge at all. Make sure you always use the stock charger and short cable that came with your phone.
Notification bar 'sliding brightness' feature is only working after you pass through the half right portion of the notification bar.
***Update: not fixed
Lowest level of brightness is not as dark/dim as Sony's stock ROM.
***Update: not fixed, but I've noticed that on stock firmware the automatic brightness is darker than the lowest manual brightness that we can set, so that's the same behavior apparently.
Sometimes when the I receive a call, it starts to vibrate, the phone freezes and locks up, it still remains vibrating, the screen remains black (locked), and the only way to make it work again is to press the reset button. The alarm also did this once, it behaved just like that one time.
***Update: fixed!
Battery usage seems to be a little bit higher than stock ROM. But it's hard to find the culprit there...
***Update: it has been improved but I still feel that stock (very first stock firmware) had the best battery life.
During regular phone calls the speakerphone does not work.
***Update: fixed!
While I was on a phone call tonight, I pressed the back button to get me all the way back to home screen. Then I pressed the camera button to take a photo. The camera loaded and took the photo. Immediately after that, the phone locked up with a black screen. About 5 seconds after that black screen the phone started vibrating. I had to press the reset button to reboot the phone.
***Update: fixed!
***Official July-05-2013 CM 10.1 nightly all stock.***
Yo! Looking for current CyanogenMod (CM11) development for your Sony Xperia ZL/ZQ (Odin) Changelog??? Click HERE!!!
Here's my quick overview of CM11 (Jan 13th 2014) on my Xperia ZL C6503.
I honestly think PIE Control was much better than this new, hidden virtual controls that has been implemented. This new one present on CM11 just doesn't work as intended, and I find myself pressing menus (from within an app) when I try to back out of it. I really wish someone would/could bring back PIE Controls on CM 11.
There are some other issues with Jan 13th 2014 build when it comes to functionality and some missing options/menus that were present in CM 10.1 for example.
The new camera menus are absolute crap. I can work with that, but please, someone bring back the Store on External SD card option. That's an essential feature.
The icons on default launcher are huge. What's up with that? It's all bloated and washed out... Does it look like THAT bad on a Nexus 5??? This time around I was thinking of keeping the default launcher but it looks like crap so... Any suggestions for a new launcher? I've always had Apex Pro on my previous CM installs.
The default Web Browser (I think it's called Chromium?) is performing so poorly this time around... It basically seem to have lost all of my bookmarks cause it just refuses to pull them out of the cloud like it always did since CM7 up until CM10.2. The zooming feature (double tap) just refuses to work properly. I keep on double tapping the screen and nothing happens. It's really frustrating...
I've downloaded about 11 pdf files off the internet and the system kept tabs on it as it should, but when I tried to pull down the notification bar it was performing very poorly the animation was choppy for both quick settings menu and notifications bar. Clearing the notifications history fixed this. But should this ever occur?
For some reason I'm unable to uninstall system apps with Titanium Backup or any other app.
Thank goodness DSP Manager is working properly this time around. But....
Bluetooth connection sucks. It is really really bad. It constantly cuts and skips the music playback every other 5 - 15 seconds. Is there someone looking into that? In comparison, my almost 4 year old Samsung Galaxy S GT-i9000 is rockin' CM 11 without this problem.
I think that this is about it. Other than that the system seems to be working properly. I can't comment on anything else since I've got CM11 running on my Xperia ZL less than 5 hours ago.
I would like to take the time to thank FXP, FreeXperia Project and the rest of the community and developers that are constantly improving and enhancing the code and the experience for all of us.
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Great news buddy, thanks for showing this to us
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Great news buddy, thanks for showing this to us
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OMG!!!
The first official nightly build of CM10.1 for the Xperia ZL is up!!!!!!
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Well this is no surprise... Jerpelea (FXP) has the Xperia ZL so this is expected...
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DooMLoRD said:
Well this is no surprise... Jerpelea (FXP) has the Xperia ZL so this is expected...
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DooMLoRD! Woah! It's an absolute honor to hear from you Mr.!
I was doing some diggin' on you and FXP as well after I read on Odin's Wiki page that you were the maintainers for my new device! It's really a great pleasure having you here, taking the time to stop by to give me the heads up! Thank you!
After so many years with my Galaxy S i9000, I was really afraid of getting a phone that eventually would have no official CyanogenMod support. I'm so glad to see that my new device is now fully supported by the CM community! Heck yeah!
Phew, what a relief, man!
So, what is the difference between CyanogenMod and the FreeXperia ?
I mean FreeXperia ROM is available for the ZL since some weeks... and for my understanding it is the same!?
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So, what is the difference between CyanogenMod and the FreeXperia ?
I mean FreeXperia ROM is available for the ZL since some weeks... and for my understanding it is the same!?
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in my understanding this doesnt change much.
FXP was an unofficial CM build and now it's official. The quality remains.
Maybe the pros are that now the project can use official repository and download servers. And of course has more "world attention" since it's official :good:
respider said:
in my understanding this doesnt change much.
FXP was an unofficial CM build and now it's official. The quality remains.
Maybe the pros are that now the project can use official repository and download servers. And of course has more "world attention" since it's official :good:
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Yup, couldn't agree more.
My biggest concern when I got the phone last week was the fear of getting it overshadowed by other major releases like the HTC ONE and the Galaxy S 4. I was afraid that the devs just wouldn't be interested in the device. But now that the device has made into the official CM10.1 ROM list, there's absolutely nothing to worry about...!
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AndroidBR said:
Yup, couldn't agree more.
My biggest concern when I got the phone last week was the fear of getting it overshadowed by other major releases like the HTC ONE and the Galaxy S 4. I was afraid that the devs just wouldn't be interested in the device. But now that the device has made into the official CM10.1 ROM list, there's absolutely nothing to worry about...!
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Yes, but why to worry when there is since some weeks (Months?) CM for this device available ??
Do we lose any functionality from this? such as IR etc?
jafferman said:
Do we lose any functionality from this? such as IR etc?
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IR and all Sony proprietary apps such as Sony Throw become non functional.
UserX10 said:
Yes, but why to worry when there is since some weeks (Months?) CM for this device available ??
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I'm not sure I totally understood what you asked. Could you please rephrase that for me?
AndroidBR said:
DooMLoRD! Woah! It's an absolute honor to hear from you Mr.!
I was doing some diggin' on you and FXP as well after I read on Odin's Wiki page that you were the maintainers for my new device! It's really a great pleasure having you here, taking the time to stop by to give me the heads up! Thank you!
After so many years with my Galaxy S i9000, I was really afraid of getting a phone that eventually would have no official CyanogenMod support. I'm so glad to see that my new device is now fully supported by the CM community! Heck yeah!
Phew, what a relief, man!
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unfortunately i am not a CM device maintainer...
FYI if you guys dont know... some of the top CM/AOSP/AKOP developers have the Xperia Z/ZL... listing some of them below:
jerpelea (FXP)
Binary
codeworkx
Kali-
defer
Entropy512
cdesai
championswimmer
and many more...
also there are many devs who work independently have the Xperia Z/ZL:
me
Dees_Troy
krabappel2548
lilstevie
and many others!!!
so you should not be worried about dev support
something wrong with the phone or CM ??
i did flow the instruction of cyanogenmod's wiki and finished the installation,it is the fastest system i ever used,but...........
why can't i make a normal call or take a call from others,it dos not ring at all(dos not work in the settings)~~~~then i found i lost my baseband in this CM~~~~
is ur XZL work normally with this CM?
xiaNLJ said:
i did flow the instruction of cyanogenmod's wiki and finished the installation,it is the fastest system i ever used,but...........
why can't i make a normal call or take a call from others,it dos not ring at all(dos not work in the settings)~~~~then i found i lost my baseband in this CM~~~~
is ur XZL work normally with this CM?
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Did you erase your IMEI or something? If you deleted the "backup" folder in the root of your internal SD card it might have caused this, I don't really know if it was the case for you since I haven't had a chance (time) to flash CM 10.1 on my ZL just yet...
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Did you erase your IMEI or something? If you deleted the "backup" folder in the root of your internal SD card it might have caused this, I don't really know if it was the case for you since I haven't had a chance (time) to flash CM 10.1 on my ZL just yet...
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Thank you very much for this,but its better if you have time to flash this CM on your XZL and tell me it is working well, i will try it again
xiaNLJ said:
Thank you very much for this,but its better if you have time to flash this CM on your XZL and tell me it is working well, i will try it again
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So today I successfully unlocked the bootloader (following Sony Developer's website walkthrough) and then loaded CWM recovery as explained at the ZL's (Odin) Wiki page.
After successfully completing both of these steps I managed to get into CWM recovery and flash CM 10.1 and rebooted my ZL.
At first everything seemed to be working properly. After the initial boot screen and device initialization, it looked like I had just gotten a brand new 5" Google Nexus phone made by Sony straight out of the box. It was absolutely brilliant.
But then, after I successfully placed a call and talked on the phone for like 2 minutes, the phone went black. None of the buttons would work. I had to open the back cover and press the reset button for the phone to work again.
After reboot, I could not place any calls again...
I'm wondering what the problem is...
Anyone?
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I wiped the phone all over again and flashed CM 10.1 one more time. After reboot and initial setup, the phone worked just fine, no problems making or receiving calls.
One big remark though: The speaker phone (loud speaker) does not work. You press the button and it does absolutely nothing. So if that is a deal breaker for you, you may want to keep your original Sony ROM rockin' for a little longer until the problem is solved.
AndroidBR said:
So today I successfully unlocked the bootloader (following Sony Developer's website walkthrough) and then loaded CWM recovery as explained at the ZL's (Odin) Wiki page.
After successfully completing both of these steps I managed to get into CWM recovery and flash CM 10.1 and rebooted my ZL.
At first everything seemed to be working properly. After the initial boot screen and device initialization, it looked like I had just gotten a brand new 5" Google Nexus phone made by Sony straight out of the box. It was absolutely brilliant.
But then, after I successfully placed a call and talked on the phone for like 2 minutes, the phone went black. None of the buttons would work. I had to open the back cover and press the reset button for the phone to work again.
After reboot, I could not place any calls again...
I'm wondering what the problem is...
Anyone?
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I wiped the phone all over again and flashed CM 10.1 one more time. After reboot and initial setup, the phone worked just fine, no problems making or receiving calls.
One big remark though: The speaker phone (loud speaker) does not work. You press the button and it does absolutely nothing. So if that is a deal breaker for you, you may want to keep your original Sony ROM rockin' for a little longer until the problem is solved.
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These two issues are well documented and discussed. Seem to be common on all AOSP roms. For the GSM signal, the best thing to do would be to flash baseband only using flashtool. Or you could play around with enabling/ disabling airplane mode and see if that works for you (for me it does)
The speaker during calls doesnt work and enabling it results in complete loss of audio through both the speaker and the earpiece. To fix it just restart your phone.
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These two issues are well documented and discussed. Seem to be common on all AOSP roms. For the GSM signal, the best thing to do would be to flash baseband only using flashtool. Or you could play around with enabling/ disabling airplane mode and see if that works for you (for me it does)
The speaker during calls doesnt work and enabling it results in complete loss of audio through both the speaker and the earpiece. To fix it just restart your phone.
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that i think we have to wait for the next official edition
dose anyone know how i can tell CM the problem?
why they release the official edition with a not working well base function
This is my first phone with the capabilities to flash custom Roms and so far I've flashed most of the Roms available for the m9. I have my favorites.
But I've noticed that cyanogen mod has a huge following. What is it that makes this rom so famous? What are the pros and con's of the rom?
I saw that the beta version is out and would love to hear opinions on the rom to buy some time until a stable version is ready for me to test drive.
Thanks for your input
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Cyanogen mod is among one of the oldest full-featured android ROMS available. It has survived for so long since it is highly customizable, fast, stable, and gets good battery life. I'd definitely give it a go if you are curious about it. If you don't like it you can always restore from a backup or flash another rom.
I think a major factor in choosing to use it is that it's completely "de-bloated". There is no OEM crap taking up space and wasting battery.
Sure, most of us disable those things or uninstall them with Ti Backup, but it's just so much cleaner never to have had them.
It's really quick, and since it's based on AOSP, a lot more Xposed modules and customizers wwork with it (Like GravityBox, for example).
You should definitely try it out if you're curious. You'll probably like it.
The only downside is that the nightly builds and betas can be slightly dodgy sometimes (though the beta that's out is pretty good, minus the camera) and that since it's closer to a Vanilla android feel than OEM skins, you usually lose some of the device's unique software functionality. (Sometimes these can be re-downloaded from the play store, other times they just won't work)
Make a nandroid (or whatever we call these now. TWRP Backup?) and give it a go!
Thanks. I found this earlier explaining a little. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Main_Page
I still appreciate your opinions and would love to hear more. If there is anything more to add. These guys explained it well.
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Thanks. I found this earlier explaining a little. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Main_Page
I still appreciate your opinions and would love to hear more. If there is anything more to add. These guys explained it well.
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If you have any questions or I can help with anything just let me know!
On HTC phone I don't use CM nor MIUI, the last time I did was on Nexus 1 years ago.
Though it should be good on samsung and LG + sense 7 port from xpirt
Thanks. @vivremetrique I recognize your name from the cm rom post. Are you one of the devs of the rom? I plan on flashing it soon. But I am going to wait for the camera to get fixed first. Also, will there be any sound mods like viper4android or just an amp?
I'm not sure if its the current rom I'm on or the firmware but it seems like my music isn't as loud as it was a few weeks ago.
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Thanks. @vivremetrique I recognize your name from the cm rom post. Are you one of the devs of the rom? I plan on flashing it soon. But I am going to wait for the camera to get fixed first. Also, will there be any sound mods like viper4android or just an amp?
I'm not sure if its the current rom I'm on or the firmware but it seems like my music isn't as loud as it was a few weeks ago.
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No, I'm not one of the devs, just an "enthusiastic" tester and user
I'm really not sure about the sound mods, but I'd imagine that eventually v4a would work properly.
(If it doesn't already, this thread suggests that someone was able to get it working by changing SELinux mode to permissive, but it doesn't seem to have worked for everyone. You can always try it!)
I haven't updated my firmware recently so I'm not sure if an update may have affected sound volume (I'm not sure if you've updated your firmware either, but the CM Beta only works on 1.32.x so far anyway )
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No, I'm not one of the devs, just an "enthusiastic" tester and user
I'm really not sure about the sound mods, but I'd imagine that eventually v4a would work properly.
(If it doesn't already, this thread suggests that someone was able to get it working by changing SELinux mode to permissive, but it doesn't seem to have worked for everyone. You can always try it!)
I haven't updated my firmware recently so I'm not sure if an update may have affected sound volume (I'm not sure if you've updated your firmware either, but the CM Beta only works on 1.32.x so far anyway )
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Thanks for the link. I didn't know that v4a was actually in the play store. I've only seen it in a custom rom. I actually have the selinux permission app already so definitely worth the try.
I'm on the new 2.8 developers edition firmware right now. But being as flashing firmware is so easy I can switch anytime. Am definitely going to follow the progress of cm and when it looks like most of the bugs are worked out I'll give it a try. Can't really run a beta on my phone because it is my daily driver.
You're welcome!
Keep in mind that you might need to be S-Off in order to tinker with firmware beyond updating it
(On some devices you need S-Off to downgrade or flash unsigned)
I am s-off thanks. Coming from my locked bootloader vzw s3 to this has been amazing. So I've unlocked everything to allow me full flexibility and freedom to customize as I see fit. I may never buy a carrier phone again.
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I know that it is possible to revert all the root, unlocking and so on. I'm just wondering about warranty.
I know what OnePlus says about it BUT! I am worried that if my device decides to suddenly break, OnePlus will see that my device has been rooted and I will have a harder time getting it through warranty even though warranty is not void by rooting.
I am not planning to do something seriously weird with my phone. Just want to try out a few popular kernels and roms. But the warranty situation scares me. Any thoughts?
Ask One Plus.
If I buy an Android phone it's for liberty it gives me.
Stop let your fears drive you.
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Ask One Plus.
If I buy an Android phone it's for liberty it gives me.
Stop let your fears drive you.
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Of Course i have done that but the answers are very formal and pasted. Just wanted to know if someone wanted to offer their thoughts about what is even possible from OnePlus point if view.
I haven't bothered yet... The stock ROM is fine. Not worth the effort and potential hassle to get a different colored battery icon or 0.5% faster benchmark scores...
Let me ax you... What features do you need Root for that cannot be had without it?
That will tell you whether you need to root or not...
yes it is worth it, u do not void ur warranty so there is no reason not to, once u root and unlock ur bootloader, install TWRP and make backup, u can then start to tinker and download many different apps like xposed to change things around, there are endless possibility with being rooted, also u can get updates quicker at times, and the people who whine and say their phone is not working or the update killed their phone, u just backup all ur apps with a backup app like titantium backup (pretty popular) then do a clean flash of the rom and u r good to go, u can remove system apps u don't use and use up battery, u can download custom kernels to adjust cpu speeds for better battery life, free apps with lucky patcher (i don't think i was supposed to mention that though), with xposed u can bypass the passcode and use fingerprint on start. Themeing different apps if u r into that. just so much to do, also there is no hassle like the guy above stated, u just download the toolkit and u r done in like 5 min.
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I haven't bothered yet... The stock ROM is fine. Not worth the effort and potential hassle to get a different colored battery icon or 0.5% faster benchmark scores...
Let me ax you... What features do you need Root for that cannot be had without it?
That will tell you whether you need to root or not...
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Mostly for battery but also for gestures. Really like the gestures feature i have seen in RR, and maybe in more roms than RR? It also seems that arter97 cm ROM is well optimized both with his kernel, and ROM. I don't care about benchmarks. But the overall feel seems faster with that ROM according to XDA
I haven't done it myself either, since most of the reasons for which I unlock and install custom ROM and root are available (adblock, aggressive doze, oxygen OS customizations, etc)
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I haven't bothered yet... The stock ROM is fine. Not worth the effort and potential hassle to get a different colored battery icon or 0.5% faster benchmark scores...
Let me ax you... What features do you need Root for that cannot be had without it?
That will tell you whether you need to root or not...
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That is so true! The stock OxygenOS is buttery smooth!
Yes.
Absolutely worth rooting (want a good backup?) and warranty cannot be voided because of rooting (http://bit.ly/2bsmV1T)
Oneplus has no problems with rooted phones as i did a warranty service for my OPO last year.
So yes it is worth rooting and unlocking to enjoy the freedom of what Android and OnePlus has to offer..!
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Let me ax you... What features do you need Root for that cannot be had without it?
That will tell you whether you need to root or not...
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For me, Xposed and EX Kernel Manger are the biggies. Of course you could install a kernel without using an app, but the app has OTA updates plus some other nice features.
So what kernel+rom is the best regarding smoothness and battery life compared to stock? I would also really like to know what roms have the gestures feature that the RR rom has. my goal by coming from iOS is to access apps as quickly as possible without having to go through folders and ****.
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So what kernel+rom is the best regarding smoothness and battery life compared to stock? I would also really like to know what roms have the gestures feature that the RR rom has. my goal by coming from iOS is to access apps as quickly as possible without having to go through folders and ****.
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What specific gestures feature are you referring to?
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What specific gestures feature are you referring to?
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Saw a Review on Youtube where you could enter gestures anywhere and a lot of different gestures aswell..
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Saw a Review on Youtube where you could enter gestures anywhere and a lot of different gestures aswell..
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you know the stock OOS rom/kernel has gestures, right?
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you know the stock OOS rom/kernel has gestures, right?
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Yeah ofc. But not that. Here:
https://youtu.be/M-F5Lrdt5C0
Geatures anywhere 6:23
This device may be a few years old, but its still great. Support for it has almost disappeared, but there are still people out there like me that are on this device that can't/won't upgrade for one reason or another. Sure, Superstock is a great ROM, but lollipop is outdated, and having the features of custom ROMS but on a newer base would be freaking great. I am right?
I may have missed them, but as far as I could find on XDA, I couldnt find any nougat custom ROMs for this device. I would super excited to petition for one of the awesome developers out there to make a new ROM, even if it might be the last for this phone. Or maybe there is one, and I have just been much to dense to see it. Let this thread be for all posts related to the development of a custom Nougat rom, or sharing of one that already exists. Thanks everyone for reading and participating! :laugh:
EDIT: SM-G928T is the model number, just in case it isn't implied
"petition for one of the awesome developers out there to make a new ROM"
Wow... no need to do that buddy..
I'll save you the headache, hassle and lynching..
Check this out.. https://forum.xda-developers.com/s6-edge-plus
Heads up, read thru the thread carefully, many of these ROMs will require the "T-Mobile audio fix" to get in call audio, that is if you have the T-Mobile variant (G928T). You can search for the fix..
We can run Note 5 ROMs too, check out the TMo N5 or the Int'l forums, like I mentioned, above.
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"petition for one of the awesome developers out there to make a new ROM"
Wow... no need to do that buddy..
I'll save you the headache, hassle and lynching..
Check this out.. https://forum.xda-developers.com/s6-edge-plus
Heads up, read thru the thread carefully, many of these ROMs will require the "T-Mobile audio fix" to get in call audio, that is if you have the T-Mobile variant (G928T). You can search for the fix..
We can run Note 5 ROMs too, check out the TMo N5 or the Int'l forums, like I mentioned, above.
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Thanks for the response. I had no idea we could run international ROMs on variant devices. I am having the issue you mentioned, though, with the call audio. So far ive tried two roms, flashed the fix, without any change. Ideas as to how i might get that working?
There is a audio fix on the T mobile Galaxy Note 5 page, it worked for me using Dr Ketan's rom
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Thanks for the response. I had no idea we could run international ROMs on variant devices. I am having the issue you mentioned, though, with the call audio. So far ive tried two roms, flashed the fix, without any change. Ideas as to how i might get that working?
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I do know that theres a few different "audio fixes" available. Im thinking they differ bcuz of the Android version? Just a guess, but what I'll do, is, I'll use only Roms that another 928T user already reported their success using it. I dont want to waste my time and effort being the guinea pig and then, for it not to work. Usually, whomever confirmed compatibility, will also list anything thats needed additionally to get it running, like the audio fix, along with link(s) to get it. If it doesn't work, they'll usually state the issues they found. Someone else's issue with it, might not be relevant to another person so they may decide to run it.
The best way to do this is to simply go to the OP of the Rom thread, in the upper right corner, you'll see a "search" option/box, (depending on browser or app, might see 3 dots instead, its a drop down list) click on it and enter our phone model, "928T, 928-T" or "T-Mobile, Tmobile, TMO " I try to cover the different variations, others here use to identify the phone. Seems like the search function, searches only the exact characters, as entered in the box, doubting it can identify and include similar known ones, so rather be thorough and not miss something. It searches your entry only in that particular thread and lists the results.
If you're braver than I, and dont mind going where no other TMO'rs have gone before and found only the in call audio isnt working, then its likely, flashing the audio fix is all thats needed.
The best way to solve this is, again, with a simple search. This time I'd recommend, a broader search using Google's search engine, type "XDA T-Mobile audio fix," bcuz this will search all XDA forums, more importantly, both S6 E+ and N5, carrier and int'l forums all at once. Then just go down the list if results, making sure that youre in either of the 4 forums, above, locating the download. Last I checked there was 3 or so fixes available, this was many months ago though. Anyway, having more isnt a bad thing, less would mean needing to go back and finding the one you missed. Once you have them, flash each one seperately, in recovery, reboot, confirm whether you're issue is fixed or not. If not, then continue these steps till it works. Flashing the audio fix won't mess your phone up. No need to reset, clear cache or anything of the sort, between each audio fix, just flash only the audio fix and rebooting is necessary. If you want to be organized, you can cross reference the dates of each audio fix, with the current firmware available at the time. That way you can flash any Rom you desire and will already have the fix ready.
Wow, my apologies, talk about rambling on about nothing more than finding correct file, flash your device, confirm its fixed, if not then repeat till its fixed. If no fix is found then, Rom isnt compatible...
Sorry, one last thing, Im sure that you'll help many others like yourself, if you had minute to post your experience with whichever Rom(s), you chose.
For example, "Rom works great, needed this (link to audio fix) for in call audio on the TMO variant"
It seems like you're the first 928T to try the Rom you have so,
report your experience, posts are permanent, its there forever, for any curious new comers, you'd be their hero! It'd most def get a "thx" from me.. :good:
Any updates on your experience here?
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Any updates on your experience here?
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Found a few ROMs that work without fixes and run nougat. Khongloi's s8 port works and has some of the best features I've ever had on this phone, but is heavy on the battery. AndroidSword's NFuel XL runs fast and light, but doesn't have edge features. The original NFuel also has full support for 928T, but I haven't tried it yet. I'm also working on my own custom ROM now since every ROM I tried was missing something I wanted.
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Found a few ROMs that work without fixes and run nougat. Khongloi's s8 port works and has some of the best features I've ever had on this phone, but is heavy on the battery. AndroidSword's NFuel XL runs fast and light, but doesn't have edge features. The original NFuel also has full support for 928T, but I haven't tried it yet. I'm also working on my own custom ROM now since every ROM I tried was missing something I wanted.
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Thanks for the info. My S8 has kicked the bucket, and so I'm back on my S6 for the time being and want to give it a bit of a refresh. I'll look up those NFUEL ROMs.
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Thanks for the info. My S8 has kicked the bucket, and so I'm back on my S6 for the time being and want to give it a bit of a refresh. I'll look up those NFUEL ROMs.
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Nearly lost my phone today and realized find my mobile does not work on NFuel XL. Would not recommend if your one to lose you phone like me.
Zulmonster said:
Thanks for the info. My S8 has kicked the bucket, and so I'm back on my S6 for the time being and want to give it a bit of a refresh. I'll look up those NFUEL ROMs.
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I've just finished cooking a second version of my custom rom. Haven't had any issues so far. It's Called TrueStockN.
Here's a list of ROMs I was able to get working for the G928T:
Khongloi's s8 Port
Nemesis s7 Port
N-Fuel
TrueStockN
These are just Nougat roms I that worked for me off the bat, no additional audio fix required. Of course, there may be more, but these are the ones I know of and have used extensively.