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Hey guys, thought it might be a good idea to share with each other what apps/settings are mauling their battery life...
Personally at the advice of beards, I used systempanel app to try and monitor app cpu usage etc.
I was experiencing large battery drain overnight, so I decided to leave it running for 1 night. By the morning I had lost about 30 or 40% of battery and systempanel told me that Fancy Widget was using about 11 or 12% avg of cpu (if I remember correctly).
I removed Fancy Widget, turned off Data (with APNswitch) and also stopped systempanel (which prob contributed some of the usage itself) when I went to sleep the other night and the batt was at 40% usage. In the morning I turned on my phone and was greatly surprised to learn that the phone was STILL AT 40%... didn't even lose 1% wooooot
So.. I'd like to put my suggestions out
Batt hungry apps: FancyWidget (maybe...? but I'm surprised that other people don't seem to have a problem so maybe its my human error?)
Phone settings:
Data:3G data seems to consumes a lot!!!
I suggest leaving on 2G if you want to keep auto syncing apps etc, and swapping to 3G when you really need the speed (browsing/downloading).
If you want to totally maximise battery usage, turn off data completely every time you put the phone on standby, and turn off all autosyncing apps.
I also believe Wifi consumes less battery than 3G usage, although I haven't done any serious testing, I managed to use wifi on and off for about 5 hours at a lanning event and I still had a fair bit of batt left.
Recommended apps:
I recommend APNswitch to turn off data. I like it because you can use it as an app, not just a widget, as I've found all the APN widgets too be ugly. It also uses the notification bar wisely
Other experiences:
According to systempanel, samsung widgets (feed, buddies, daily briefing) all consume very little CPU (less than other widgets in my experience. I've kept them all as they seem beautiful to me
To XDA members, anyone else experience bad batt life with fancy widget?
Please feel free to critisize any of my claims, I hope we can help each other out with sharing battery life tips, good/bad apps etc.
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Wallpapers:(thanks gadjet0)
Live wallpapers seem to consume a lot. Also having read discussion about the power consumption of oleds, I put a pure black background on my device. Whether it's actually reducing power or not I have no scientific evidence.
Thanks should pin this!
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Have you tried any live wallpaper, I got the feeling that they put a drain on the battery!
Yes, all its true what have writed oswade. I was make this thing with my Galaxy, and battery life have very growing...
Regards
also try tasker, I have set profiles to put phone into airplane mode at night, during day the data is off, but comes on every 15 mins or when the screen is turned on (like juicedefender i think its called) works brilliantly and conserves battery.
I can unlpug phone at 5am and still have around 60% at 9pm with light usage, while before I would get to evening and battery would be close to dead!
Glad that I'm not the only ones.. I suffered quite bad. Full charge ard 6pm..was playing robo zone for an 1hr+. Batt left 50%. Arghh..
Does black or darker background uses more batt?
I'm using beautiful widget.
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oswade said:
Hey guys, thought it might be a good idea to share with each other what apps/settings are mauling their battery life...
Personally at the advice of beards, I used systempanel app to try and monitor app cpu usage etc.
I was experiencing large battery drain overnight, so I decided to leave it running for 1 night. By the morning I had lost about 30 or 40% of battery and systempanel told me that Fancy Widget was using about 11 or 12% avg of cpu (if I remember correctly).
I removed Fancy Widget, turned off Data (with APNswitch) and also stopped systempanel (which prob contributed some of the usage itself) when I went to sleep the other night and the batt was at 40% usage. In the morning I turned on my phone and was greatly surprised to learn that the phone was STILL AT 40%... didn't even lose 1% wooooot
So.. I'd like to put my suggestions out
Batt hungry apps: FancyWidget (maybe...? but I'm surprised that other people don't seem to have a problem so maybe its my human error?)
Phone settings:
Data:3G data seems to consumes a lot!!!
I suggest leaving on 2G if you want to keep auto syncing apps etc, and swapping to 3G when you really need the speed (browsing/downloading).
If you want to totally maximise battery usage, turn off data completely every time you put the phone on standby, and turn off all autosyncing apps.
I also believe Wifi consumes less battery than 3G usage, although I haven't done any serious testing, I managed to use wifi on and off for about 5 hours at a lanning event and I still had a fair bit of batt left.
Recommended apps:
I recommend APNswitch to turn off data. I like it because you can use it as an app, not just a widget, as I've found all the APN widgets too be ugly. It also uses the notification bar wisely
Other experiences:
According to systempanel, samsung widgets (feed, buddies, daily briefing) all consume very little CPU (less than other widgets in my experience. I've kept them all as they seem beautiful to me
To XDA members, anyone else experience bad batt life with fancy widget?
Please feel free to critisize any of my claims, I hope we can help each other out with sharing battery life tips, good/bad apps etc.
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Wallpapers:(thanks gadjet0)
Live wallpapers seem to consume a lot. Also having read discussion about the power consumption of oleds, I put a pure black background on my device. Whether it's actually reducing power or not I have no scientific evidence.
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How did you stop "systempanel"?
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How did you stop "systempanel"?
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Couldn't figure that out either... probably need to use a task-killer or reboot.
So what do you recommand (or anybody else) to replace Fancy Widget ?
I don't really want a HTC like Clock but I want a digital clock like this ?
Beautiful Widget for exemple ?
And i don't know why an app which automatically turn on/off the 3G when ur using the brownser/market doesn't exist already ? That will be great !!!
What's wrong with fancywidget? Seems fine on my device.
If using Juicedefender,do I still need Advanced Task Killer?
Then What?
Hi!
We have industry best hardware configuration.
But we
1) can not Use live wallpapers
2) can not Use 3G for many hours
3) can not Use considerable number of applications from the market
4) can not watch two full length movies
5) etc.................
If you want above
1) Purchase additional battery and put in your pocket
2) Power adapter/ Travel adapter always carry with u
If you are roaming for more than six hours, then it's bad.
this is not only for Galaxy S most of the samart phones fall in this.
What can we do????????
-G
Dude, I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace
As soon as I got it I installed fancy widget and some other programs. My phone was lasting only 6 hours. I sync to corporate, gmail, facebook and a few others. At first I thought 'bad phone'. I uninstalled Fancy Widget last night and voila my phone is fine. It'll last a day+ now.
What the hell is wrong with that app?? Why does it need so much compute? Its just a widget that shows time??
my battery drains like a bugatti veyron doing 252mph constantly
so what would you advise . is the kernal i have now the best or should i change .. i dont want to reall lose much performance on what i have now but would like the battery to maybe improve if possible ...
from full charge taking plug out searching market for 2 mins the battery drains 5-8% in matter of mins
and i have only had the phone a week
With that kind of drains the problems the kernel won't change that much. There is probably a app that causes the battery drain so looking in to that will have more effect. Also the brightness/screen on is the biggest drain and kernel won't do much about that.
You said that you have the phone a week, the battery needs some time to reach it's full potential and you probably use the phone a lot because it's new. So use the phone normally for another week, after that week let the phone drain until it shuts itself off, leaf it off and charge it till it's full. (there is a different calibration method but this always worked for me)
What do you have now? Stock or rooted?
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First of all, I would assume that you don't use the phone non-stop (it would be justified to lose power in a few hours if you're on it non-stop).
I recently had issues with power consumption as well. What I did was:
1) check the built in battery monitor: menu-settings-about phone-battery-battery use. The bad thing about this monitor is that it does not differentiate well the apps consuming power, but you can still see if there's something wrong, as the most consumption should come normally from the screen and voice calls. For me, the most consumption was made by com.htc.bg, which, if I let the monitor on for a few seconds, would transform in the calendar app. Weird stuff. I unchecked the calednar auto sync from menu-settings-accounts and sync. It may have slowed the power loss down, but not significantly. I noticed a significant loss of battery by WiFi. I realized, I needed more information so:
2) I installed an app called 'Power Tutor'. What it does is, it calculates which apps consumes power, and it shows you in percentages. After install, you need to start the 'power profiler'. It will appear in your notification bar. If you let it run, after a few hours, you can see in "view application power usage" who is using power. That's how I discovered that my winamp app was really off the charts using power like crazy. So I went in the winamp settings, and I unchecked some options that could have determined this power consumption, like wireless sync, automatic mount as USB drive, etc. There was actually an option that was overriding the wifi power management, stating that the wifi does not stop after 180 seconds of standby. Basically, if you have wifi on, and you stop using the phone for 3 minutes, the phone automatically turns off the wifi. This was not happening any more, due to winamp. So I unchecked all those options, and voila. It worked, I have now normal battery life.
Good luck!
be aware of a couple of things
1. battery drain for the 1st few weeks are high because of a couple of factors, the battery "learns" and gets conditioned over a period of time (doesnt use the old 16hr charge process). its a new device for you so its a novelty, you probably mess about with it with the screen on more than you think.
2. there is a configuration within HTC's builds and in the memory chip of the battery to stop over charging. the device will charge to 100 and then slowly deplete to 90% while still saying full on the phone. as soon as you disconnect it recalibrates to the correct value which is anywhere between 90% and 100% depending at which part of the cycle you catch it
Some other tips to increase battery life, from a friend of mine in the Romanian forum:
1) use the app watchdog, it will warn you when an app is using too much of the processor and will ask you if you want to close it.
2) juice defender with the paid add-on 'ultimate juice' - with the correct settings... it's amazing.
3) Dial *#*#4636#*#* - phone information-network type: select gsm auto prl. The phone will stay on 3G when it has good signal, and switch to 2G when it doesnt, saving battery
4) Change the wallpaper to a static one, not a live one.
5) Go to menu-settings-accounts and sync and increase sync intervals for weather, news, or even set them to sync manually when you choose.
i will try and answer everything at once ..
ok my screen is on 13% brightness
i hardly ever use my phone , the only real use was to root , s-off, put ROM ETC ON
I reply to about 50 texts ish per day and search the market for literally 1-2 mins to see what new apps are in
i dont play games or anything
the thing the battery uses most is the screen and as i say i have it on monochrome theme with 13% brightness, there is nothing synced , i check automatically for email etc .. actually beautiful widgets is set to auto update every 4 hours
i never use wifi as i have a 3gb download/data usage, i dont use gps ...well i do but i have had no need to .. thats about all i can tell ya
rastaman the pt2 is a bit weird it should stay at 100 if just taken out of charge
I calibrated the battery and that made no difference.
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Hi guys, I thought I'd start a thread to ask people what apps they found that sucks battery.... I'd start by saying Facebook app and Viber...
They are annoying and drain my Note 2's battery really quick...
What app/s have you noticed that drains your battery quicker ?
If you really want to know, without speculating, just download this free app called "Carat". It's like a one stop shop for power consumption analysis & optimization.
And also, keep an eye on the usage breakdown from time to time in Settings>Battery.
Many apps stay in background and continue to eat battery, mainly news apps, even if you quit them. I go to setting, advanced parameter and set the limit for background process to 4.
Latitude and BeWeather Free version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35263450&postcount=1243
All games with awesome graphics.
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Regarding wakelocks, maps and bad wifi connections put on the longest shows, and can be quite annoying. Especially with Google now, network locator in maps can use lots of juice when in standby. Disable gnow or location services to fix.
Wifi wakelocks often have to be resolved by configuring your router. Disabling n mode altogether, or multi cast or wmm, often has a good effect on wifi wakelocks.
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Hi All,
I would like to invite your suggestions on best battery saving apps that you are using and how much difference does it make. Is it worth paying for apps juice defender ultimate or so http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/advanced/battery_full.png
I am on stock (rooted) 4.2.1 and stock rom.
Thanks!
Best battery saver is your self. These apps don't work any better than you doing the things it does manually. If its using resources which they all do to "save" you battery... Its not really saving you battery.. But in fact using it.
Some tips I suggest:
Turn sync off in everything. Go to data usage hit the menu button and uncheck auto sync data. Also you will want to open apps that have notifications and make sure they aren't syncing either.
Remove maps if you don't use it or disable it at the very least this will keep it from polling your location and wake locking the device.
Keep your running apps to a minimum and force stop any unnecessary apps.
Turn off Google backup services. Sometimes this will be pulling and pushing data wake locking the device and using battery. I've never found it necessary especially since I use TiBu anyways for my apps to restore. It never saves my WiFi password either.
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anx.sap said:
Hi All,
I would like to invite your suggestions on best battery saving apps that you are using and how much difference does it make. Is it worth paying for apps juice defender ultimate or so http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/advanced/battery_full.png
I am on stock (rooted) 4.2.1 and stock rom.
Thanks!
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for me best battery saver app is still juice defender ultimate. used it on my S3 once (2.5x longer batt life) but not on my N4.
ÜBER™ said:
Best battery saver is your self. These apps don't work any better than you doing the things it does manually. If its using resources which they all do to "save" you battery... Its not really saving you battery.. But in fact using it.
Some tips I suggest:
Turn sync off in everything. Go to data usage hit the menu button and uncheck auto sync data. Also you will want to open apps that have notifications and make sure they aren't syncing either.
Remove maps if you don't use it or disable it at the very least this will keep it from polling your location and wake locking the device.
Keep your running apps to a minimum and force stop any unnecessary apps.
Turn off Google backup services. Sometimes this will be pulling and pushing data wake locking the device and using battery. I've never found it necessary especially since I use TiBu anyways for my apps to restore. It never saves my WiFi password either.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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This ^^^ battery "saving " apps usually do more harm than good. Uber, nice to see you awaiting your N4
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Keep your running apps to a minimum and force stop any unnecessary apps.
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This isn't particularly good advice in my opinion. Are there apps that do use battery power when you don't force close them? Yes, sure, but many don't. And those which do without a good reason.. try to find a replacement.
Force closing apps all the time especially on a device with lots of ram will mean that your device has to restart the app completely if you open it again, which takes time and energy.
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Also, turning off sync doesn't really help that much if you still use your apps often but instead refresh manually with the screen on, I'd expect. Of course everyone can decide for themselves, but one of the reasons I own a smartphone is because it can notify of an incoming email or something without me having to go to gmail.com manually. It all very much depends on what you want from your phone and how much you are willing to compromise. Using an App like Lux for example could also save you some battery depending on how bright you need your screen to be etc. There are so many variables to this.
Best battery saver is to not run crappy battery hogging apps like juice defender.
Turn on auto brightness, check your apps and make sure you are not syncing very often unless you need it. For most apps you can turn off auto sync and probably sync manually. I just turn on auto sync for handful of important apps which I open regularly.
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Manually turn down screen brightness, don't leave the Wifi or bluetooth on when you're not connected, make sure apps you install aren't keeping the phone awake. Not much else actually works in the real world.
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I get two and a half days from my Nexus 4 battery, I can thank Juice Defender Ultimate for a large part of that.
I could do all the tricks that Juice Defender does manually, but it would be a PITA and I'm sure I'd forget some of those tricks.
Better to pay a few quid, take a little time to set up Juice Defender, then sit back and enjoy your doubled battery life.
the best part of Juice Defender was turning off Wifi when not at home.. if you like this feature, search the playstore for 'Y5 Battery Saver'. It does the same thing, is simple and free..
Note: dont backup and restore it in titanium though. If you rebuild, install from the playstore. I have found it doesn't work right if restored
IMO if all you want is bt/wifi to toggle when you aren't home spend $5 on a few nfc stickers and stick one by your front door. You could also go with tasker.
As for battery life, francos kernel is giving me 2 days of battery (far more than I need) with wifi/bt on, whatever apps need to sync do so and I have brightness set to auto.
I found juice defender good for phones that are bloated with crapware and not rooted. It hurt battery life when i used it for phones with custom roms and kernels.
gazsus said:
I get two and a half days from my Nexus 4 battery, I can thank Juice Defender Ultimate for a large part of that.
I could do all the tricks that Juice Defender does manually, but it would be a PITA and I'm sure I'd forget some of those tricks.
Better to pay a few quid, take a little time to set up Juice Defender, then sit back and enjoy your doubled battery life.
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Can you post you juice defense settings. I can't even get 2 days from my nexus 4.
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anx.sap said:
Can you post you juice defense settings. I can't even get 2 days from my nexus 4.
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nvm
ÜBER™ said:
Best battery saver is your self. These apps don't work any better than you doing the things it does manually. If its using resources which they all do to "save" you battery... Its not really saving you battery.. But in fact using it.
Some tips I suggest:
Turn sync off in everything. Go to data usage hit the menu button and uncheck auto sync data. Also you will want to open apps that have notifications and make sure they aren't syncing either.
Remove maps if you don't use it or disable it at the very least this will keep it from polling your location and wake locking the device.
Keep your running apps to a minimum and force stop any unnecessary apps.
Turn off Google backup services. Sometimes this will be pulling and pushing data wake locking the device and using battery. I've never found it necessary especially since I use TiBu anyways for my apps to restore. It never saves my WiFi password either.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Ya cripple your phone like this guy says lol
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After I turned 'Google location' and NFC off, this thing can easily last the day with average use. Before that it was just draining like crazy.
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I've had juice defender ultimate since my Nexus S days. I wouldn't be without it as I can't get my battery to last a full day without it. When it's fully configured correctly, it works fantastic. I especially like that I can configure wifi to turn on and off automatically in areas where I have a saved wifi. I can decide the interval I choose for syncing data, and there are many other features. I'm not going to be manually turning on and off functions all the time, all that does is create more screen on time and is a waste of my time.
Bottom line, for me juice defender ultimate works because I spent time configuring it properly for my usage.
threeclaws said:
IMO if all you want is bt/wifi to toggle when you aren't home spend $5 on a few nfc stickers and stick one by your front door. You could also go with tasker.
As for battery life, francos kernel is giving me 2 days of battery (far more than I need) with wifi/bt on, whatever apps need to sync do so and I have brightness set to auto.
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What's the screen on time though?
I can easily get 2 days of battery if I don't use my phone at all.
Andrew025 said:
What's the screen on time though?
I can easily get 2 days of battery if I don't use my phone at all.
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1.5 hrs screen on, 1.5hrs on call...I got close to 6hrs screen on when I did a drain test.
And no, I wasn't getting 2 days out of the phone stock with the same usage, it was more like 12-18hrs.
I tried using Juice Defender on a different phone and all it did was make the phone buggy with problems with wifi connectivity and other minor irritations and I could never configure it in such a way that didn't give me problems.
Are you having trouble making it through the day on one charge? I don't think I could use my N4 that much if I tried, I sat in a doctor's office the other day for 2.5 hours listening to Pandora on a bluetooth headset while reading a book with the screen on and still made it until I turned in for the night. Perhaps it is the Trinity kernel or custom ROM I am running, I never ran my phone stock so I don't have anything to compare with. I guess some of you want to go longer than 24 hours but it would be a really bizarre situation for me to need to do that.
So I tried juice defender ultimate and it did significantly increased my battery life. I am now getting about 30 hours or more with my regular usage. Even right now I have 63% remaining battery with 1 hour screen time and 17 hours total run time, see screenshot for usage.
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Hello Guys and Gals,
Its been awhile since i have been on here. But i have been very satisfied with my Note4. However. It had come to a point that carrying 4 batteries with me to make it through the day was too much.
Here i am . Finally upgraded to the 8+ and overall. I am very dissapointed.
So. i would like some input on what changes you have done, as well as apps running, how much you use the device, your daily connections. and so on.
i have:
Bluetooth always on, connected to my Gear S2
Location services always on
I am a big social media junky, on FB, and IG, not too much of Snapchat.
I use Line to talk to my group that i game with
I play Transformers Earth Wars, about 15 minutes at a time a few times a day.
Do not use bixby
Screen display is set at Amoled Cinema, HD resolution, auto brightness is turned off stays between 30-60%
Very Rarely use WiFi
Google apps do not auto Update
USB Debugging
3 gmail accounts linked, sync is off
Anything else just ask,
So after my 8hr shift of work, my phone is at about 40%, my Note4 on would almost make the whole day, i would get to about 20%, then i would switch batteries.
I am not happy with the battery. Just seems like for no reason it is draining.
Comment below, let me know your setting, impressions, and so on.......... Maybe im doing something wrong and dont realize it.
Well your first problem is all the social media apps, pretty much all of them just destroy battery life. When your not using those apps I would put them to sleep.
You need to monitor which apps are draining the battery. You can do this through the stock device mait. app. Once you find out which apps are causing the drain we can go from there.
I use standard mode, screen on WQHD, sync always on, all data no wifi, screen at 50 % or higher. No social media apps, I use the browser for those.
Here's some screen shots of battery life, this is and average battery cycle, I have reached over 9hrs of Screen on time (SOT) and 1.5 days in previous cycles.
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Well your first problem is all the social media apps, pretty much all of them just destroy battery life. When your not using those apps I would put them to sleep.
You need to monitor which apps are draining the battery. You can do this through the stock device mait. app. Once you find out which apps are causing the drain we can go from there.
I use standard mode, screen on WQHD, sync always on, all data no wifi, screen at 50 % or higher. No social media apps, I use the browser for those.
Here's some screen shots of battery life, this is and average battery cycle, I have reached over 9hrs of Screen on time (SOT) and 1.5 days in previous cycles.
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ill try that. i close my apps out as soon as im done, but im guessing that isnt enough anymore. Thanks for the info. Just was hoping to get away from the charger, but it seems that will not happen.
primus123 said:
ill try that. i close my apps out as soon as im done, but im guessing that isnt enough anymore. Thanks for the info. Just was hoping to get away from the charger, but it seems that will not happen.
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Believe it or not sometimes that consumes more battery life having to open the app every time vs just letting it run in the background. Probably not true with social media apps but it's worth a try. You may also want to try a package disabler app from the play store to disable apps you don't use that run in the background. I use BK package disabler.
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Quickvic30 said:
Believe it or not sometimes that consumes more battery life having to open the app every time vs just letting it run in the background. Probably not true with social media apps but it's worth a try. You may also want to try a package disabler app from the play store to disable apps you don't use that run in the background. I use BK package disabler.
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Ok, i may give that a shot.
Thanks,