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Hello XDA community,
I've been looking around this site for a while now, mostly getting cool apps for my HTC Touch Pro2. And this is maybe my 3rd actual post on these forums. But I just wanted to taka a moment to point out the quality of this community.
There seem to be apps and fixed for pretty much eveything, making my phone so much better. But, more important then that, people seem to be very willing to help eachother out. In a non-selfish way. A lot of devs have the option to donate to them, but they never require people to pay for their brilliant work. Users who have issues with their phone often get helped out in a matter of hours.
Having said the above, I'm surprised a rather large community still has these qualities. Therefor I dedicate this thread to XDA
So yea, that's about it

Yeah!
This is a great community
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!

Thanks, it is a great community! Have Fun & Happy Flashing!

toasteda said:
Hello XDA community,
I've been looking around this site for a while now, mostly getting cool apps for my HTC Touch Pro2. And this is maybe my 3rd actual post on these forums. But I just wanted to taka a moment to point out the quality of this community.
There seem to be apps and fixed for pretty much eveything, making my phone so much better. But, more important then that, people seem to be very willing to help eachother out. In a non-selfish way. A lot of devs have the option to donate to them, but they never require people to pay for their brilliant work. Users who have issues with their phone often get helped out in a matter of hours.
Having said the above, I'm surprised a rather large community still has these qualities. Therefor I dedicate this thread to XDA
So yea, that's about it
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How great your info is!But Can you give some more sample questions and answers.I really want to get more info about this topicIt really useful for me. Thanks.

dgfhg said:
How great your info is!But Can you give some more sample questions and answers.I really want to get more info about this topicIt really useful for me. Thanks.
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I'm sorry, I did not realize that creating a topic which is simply complementing the entire community was a crime (sarcasm)
EDIT: I see you're banned now actually, explains the silly post you made...

CLOSED - [REWARD] for Ice Cream Sandwich ROM

MOD EDIT: I am closing this thread. It has become pathetic the amount of trolling and arguing and complaining - you would think this was a thread with a bunch of high school kids if it wasn't for the timestamps saying otherwise.
In addition, after further review this effort falls short of the general XDA guidelines for bounty threads in that it is not for one specific developer, but instead a free-for-all for whomever gets something *done* first, and then that is a subjective nightmare.
And further, the idea of donating to an effort of this sort always leads to further the sense of entitlement which always infects XDA.
All pledges can be considered moot and you may choose to donate to whomever you want to.

put me down for $20 for full 1.0 release of ROM

Im in for $20 but what are you talking about when you say full code?

There are lots of people that would love this but you also know you posted this in the wrong forum this should be in general... the mod will move this so you will probably need to look for it there .....
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ilostmypistons said:
Im in for $20 but what are you talking about when you say full code?
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Put me down for for 25

wrong section for 1, second ICS will come to our phone as soon as its possible trust me.. your not the only one that wants ICS

put me down for 20 im excited to experience the hype over ics

ehusidic said:
put me down for 20 im excited to experience the hype over ics
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Download the sdk you can play with it a little .....
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20 from me also
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Epix4G said:
Download the sdk you can play with it a little .....
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It just isn't the same unless ive got it in my hand.

Wow! Others want ICS as bad as me!
expr said:
20 from me also
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Due to the rapid responses and at least one for even more than $20, we might get this REWARD up to 4 figures within 24 hours which would be an awesome stimulant for thosE capable of compiling a ROM for our beloved Sprint E4GT.
EVERYONE: Seems this thread has been moved to GENERAL. I don't care if they but it under LIEUTENANT or even CORPORAL as long as we get our ROM ASAP! Thanks y'all and tell your friends so we can make the total reward even more enticing and get our ICE CREAM SANDWICH even sooner!
UPDATE: We're already up to $165. GO TEAM GO !!!

I seen bounty threads in the past. The just don't work from what I saw. It's easy to pledge, but, when the day comes to paying it's just as easy to forget.
Personally I believe a bounty should be more organized. There should be a pot that people donate to. So, the money is actually there to help entice any developer to get more motivated. That would eliminate half ass promises. With this system we will be able to tell how much money one can make for fulfilling the desired request. Problem is deciding who is trustworthy enough to handle this pot.
If this system is somehow adopted I will be donating to the cause.

personally i was the first one to provide my confirmed donation for the OG Evo wimax on AOSP thread, so its on the honor policy. True there could be better ways to entice, but this is a start.
@OP - usually the subject of the thread is modified with the date and pledge amount total

cdszoke said:
I seen bounty threads in the past. The just don't work from what I saw. It's easy to pledge, but, when the day comes to paying it's just as easy to forget.
Personally I believe a bounty should be more organized. There should be a pot that people donate to. So, the money is actually there to help entice any developer to get more motivated. That would eliminate half ass promises. With this system we will be able to tell how much money one can make for fulfilling the desired request. Problem is deciding who is trustworthy enough to handle this pot.
If this system is somehow adopted I will be donating to the cause.
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exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...

Ill drop $35.0 if its even possible without source. Which you would probably need lots of luck.
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elliwigy said:
exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...
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Yep, I wonder how many edited posts we'll see in here. lol

subbed!
dis gon be gud

is dat sum bounty thread?
...this never ends well...

Avoiding Broken Donation Promises
elliwigy said:
exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...
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Idea: Everyone who posts on this thread is giving us their XDA ID info. When it comes time for all of us to "pay up" I'd be happy to post a Shame Page to let everyone know whose word is worthless.
P.S. I'm also good as exposing "bad people" because criminals routinely try to purchase my software, printers & MICR cartridges or use them to commit crimes so I regularly help law enforcement catch and convict them via my Criminal Alerts page
OK people, let me know what you think or offer your own ideas!

keeping y'all honest !
Here are the people who have promised to donate so far. Maybe they can remove their posts but they can't remove mine!
$20 weltwon
$20 xlGmanlx
$20 ilostmypistons
$25 digweed4me
$20 ehusidic
$20 expr
$35 humdrum2009
$160 Current Total
It's the HONOR SYSTEM. If you want the ROM and have any honor, post your $20 message below. I will continue updating the donors and total until we get the Ice Cream Sandwich ROM for our Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch!

A Thank You to all the Devs

Hey Devs & Helpers out there,
Just wanted to write a thank you to all the hard work you put in, gratis, for our device.
I cannot overstate how fantastic it is to have a wide selection of roms for our phone, as it gives the user so many options and things to look forward to in terms of updates, functionality, battery life, etc - the list goes on and on.
It's really made this website a haven, as well as an addiction for myself, and has also made my phone usage (and distractions at the office!) go through the roof. Whenever I use my phone in public, on the subway or whatever, I'm hoping there is another user out there who realizes the graphics / interface on my phone is unique, and can inspire them to "achieve" the same. Perhaps I'll even try to do a little programming myself at some point (although my CS101 class in college was probably one of my biggest challenges - and that's for an ME!)
Once again, best regards and much thanks to those hard working devs out there, who deserve nothing but our gratitude and support. Don't thank this post, thank all the devs who put in time day in and day out. Keep on truckin'!
Best regards,
-Dirk

Agreed. I was late to the game with smartphones...buying my DInc2 last July was my first. I was going to wait to root after my warranty was over, but after rooting my wife's nook color, I ventured over to this forum to see what was going on for my phone. Needless to say, it was probably two weeks after browsing this forum that I started enjoying what the hardworking devs have been up to.
I also wouldn't mind venturing into the development aspect of Android but my wife would kill me if I spent even more time on my phone.

I couldn't have said it any better, thanks all you devs and themers for all your hard work
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+1 thank you all developers.

I have to agree. I've definitely been enjoying the results of all of the devs' hard work. Keep it up!
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Here here!! Another huge thanks to all the devs out there using their personal time to make our phones (and everyone else's for that matter) well worth keeping! There's been plenty of times I wanted to tell a dev how awesome their Rom was but it's taken me some time to get past this 10 post rule. Lol.

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Pete02 said:
Here here!! Another huge thanks to all the devs out there using their personal time to make our phones (and everyone else's for that matter) well worth keeping! There's been plenty of times I wanted to tell a dev how awesome their Rom was but it's taken me some time to get past this 10 post rule. Lol.
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haha, I know exactly what you mean. I'm more a lurker than a poster here, but i'm finding myself wanting to mention bugs or issues i'm having with some of the newer builds. That dang 10 comment rule!
...helps when I don't type the image verification code in the title spot

Thanks!
hoodieNation said:
haha, I know exactly what you mean. I'm more a lurker than a poster here, but i'm finding myself wanting to mention bugs or issues i'm having with some of the newer builds. That dang 10 comment rule!
...helps when I don't type the image verification code in the title spot
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+1 exactly how I am...

Thank you developers!
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Donations to developers

Let's get this thread going by listing donations we've made and to which developers. No need to post amounts as no matter how large or small your donation is, I'm sure the awesome devs will still appreciate it. The OP will be updated to list member names please be honest, we don't want a thread with fake donations. The devs for this phone deserve better than that! Thanks community.

Ah the vanity....
Well intended, I know, but...
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I think many would like to keep this private and see this as bragging. To me, it becomes about ego and false pride if you have to tell others about your charity.
But to each his own I guess.
I've given support to many in many devs in many different device forums, over the years because I appreciate the skill, time and work they put into it. Not large sums by any means but at least something when I can/I]. But I believe most devs do it for the fun of learning and tinkering. And then just getting some well deserved thanks is a huge thing (or is/was in my case) I know the donations are certainly appreciated and help give some motivation and cover expenses but some people just can't give all the time.
That's just my two cents - from an older guy who's been a tinkering with systems since when we actually had to write code on a punch card machine.

dang
my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...

I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)

Omar04 said:
I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)
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Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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wp7chris said:
my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...
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If a dev is in it for the Donations, Then why would you want there work any way. You do not get the best work from people that do it for money. Oh and just to let you know they are not getting very much and that is not the reason we dev. We dev because it is fun.

Though I've seen a lot of people post their confirmation of donation in an open thread, I choose to donate privately when I am able to give at all. Though I'm not able to give as much as I would like for the amazing work we are given, I hope my fawning adoration makes up for it.
Stupid thanks limit

Word to the wise. Never donate to any "developer" asking for donations before any rom/kernel is released. Ive kept my eye on the whole swamp goblin donation scam. That seems to happen alot around different sites. I would think a user who pulls a scam like that would be banned? Its gotta be against xda rules?
Edit: Just checked Swamp Goblins Profile, He hasnt posted anything anywhere sense June 21, 2012.
Sent From A Rotary Phone

wp7chris said:
Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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The Dev performed the disappearing act...

Swamp Goblin doesn't believe he actually asked for donations, I think it's a perception issue.
I understand Devs have real lives and don't get paid for what they do (aside from occasional donations) therefore they are beholden to no one for ETAs, however when you request help to get a specific phone and promise a product for it then you do have an obligation to at least stay present in the situation. That doesn't mean you have to have it complete but you do need to be active in letting people know what's going on.
Also I agree with a post made in another thread regarding this, if you know you are too busy to put full effort towards a project on which you asked for a donated phone, then you shouldn't have ever started the process until such time when you were unencumbered by so much other stuff. I have to say that people were incredibly tolerant with his lack of output for quite some time and should be acknowledged for that, it has only been recently that people have grown wary of his actual intentions and started to question his motives directly.
My only real issue with the guy (other than his lengthy absences from posting any sort of information) is that he once commented that he was struggling with the sense build so he was going to spend time working on another ROM for another phone and then return to the E4GT. I don't recall exactly where it was and it may have even been edited by now but at the time I felt something was off.
Initially many of us were excited at the prospect of sense and may have allowed that excitement to color our normal judgement, I was in on the initial push to help him find a phone but I was looking at ebay and places where he might pick one up with his own money. Nevertheless, bygones I suppose.
Now, with all that said, I would hope these few instances of possible scams don't discourage people from donating. My only advice would be to pay attention to the Developer's work, reputation, support for existing products and interaction here on the forums. When we donate we do so in good faith and I'm happy to say that with the vast majority of the Devs here, we are well paid in return.

Sorry guys, but this thread is not a good idea at all. Just got off the phone with Cleo (yea, I'm that old) and she says she sees alot of name calling, pointing fingers, and bickering in this threads future. So I have to go with what she says.
---Jay--- From the Nexus

Becoming more involved

I'm inspired. I'm inspired by all the great work that is done here. I'm going to teach myself how to theme; starting with creating a skin for sense. I have no idea if this is easier or harder than creating an aosp theme, but I'm gonna jump in head first and hope I don't get too bloody.
Can I get some advice from some of you guys on the direction I should take? What to avoid, etc.
Thanks in advance.
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I personally think the skins are easier than the theme chooser apks to an extent. The trickiest to get at times can be the .9's. Once you get them it's not bad at all. Finding things in the xmls can be a challenge at times too. Each one has its own challenges though (sense and aosp) ... It's just a matter of seeing where everything is and goes. Feel free to pm me if I can be of any help.
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I personally think the skins are easier than the theme chooser apks to an extent. The trickiest to get at times can be the .9's. Once you get them it's not bad at all. Finding things in the xmls can be a challenge at times too. Each one has its own challenges though (sense and aosp) ... It's just a matter of seeing where everything is and goes. Feel free to pm me if I can be of any help.
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I sent you a pm, its not showing up in my sent messages though.
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thenaut said:
I sent you a pm, its not showing up in my sent messages though.
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that's the default i believe you have to turn on a setting to make them appear in sent. btw if you do decide to make a cm9 theme can you make a blue glassy transparent one? thanks

kevdliu said:
that's the default i believe you have to turn on a setting to make them appear in sent. btw if you do decide to make a cm9 theme can you make a blue glassy transparent one? thanks
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Since I don't know what I'm doing yet, you'll be waiting awhile.
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I might be adventuring into the theming world to start myself off as well. I am in the middle of changing jobs and I have two whole weeks to chillax starting Monday. :beer:
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Here's the the thing, I know how to do it now. It takes a whole lot of time though. Knowing myself like I do; I can picture giving up out of frustration.
Anyway, I still want to do it.
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thenaut said:
Here's the the thing, I know how to do it now. It takes a whole lot of time though. Knowing myself like I do; I can picture giving up out of frustration.
Anyway, I still want to do it.
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The end result makes it all worth it

Final update on this. I've resigned to the fact that this stuff is too time consuming for me to get into. I can however take comfort in knowing that I am good at other things.
I will remain a constant lurker to this forum, and an answerer of questions that have already been answered for noobs who can't read.
Thanks, everyone, for your time.
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Has anyone looked at this guide? I bookmarked it a while ago and haven't had the time to sit down and go through it...but it seems like a good place to start.
[Guide]Complete Android ROM development and essential tutorials ~~ By Nero Young ~~

brymaster5000 said:
Has anyone looked at this guide? I bookmarked it a while ago and haven't had the time to sit down and go through it...but it seems like a good place to start.
[Guide]Complete Android ROM development and essential tutorials ~~ By Nero Young ~~
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I read that one, and many others. It's not a lack of knowledge that is keeping me from this, however i know nothing about code, it is really just a lack of motivation, time, and energy. and being a dev is a somewhat thankless position. for as many thanks as they get they get just many F U 's, why does GSM no work, blah blah blah. i have a ton of respect for them, they get **** on constantly.

thenaut said:
I read that one, and many others. It's not a lack of knowledge that is keeping me from this, however i know nothing about code, it is really just a lack of motivation, time, and energy. and being a dev is a somewhat thankless position. for as many thanks as they get they get just many F U 's, why does GSM no work, blah blah blah. i have a ton of respect for them, they get **** on constantly.
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Agreed. It would be nice to give back a little more than "this works/doesn't work", sometimes I feel like I am a p.i.t.a.
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thenaut said:
I read that one, and many others. It's not a lack of knowledge that is keeping me from this, however i know nothing about code, it is really just a lack of motivation, time, and energy. and being a dev is a somewhat thankless position. for as many thanks as they get they get just many F U 's, why does GSM no work, blah blah blah. i have a ton of respect for them, they get **** on constantly.
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lol, it does seem that way at times
when releasing work (be it roms/themes/kernels/mods) except to get **** on by a small handful of people via posts or pm's...and have people ignore your previous posts and answers (or in my case a faq section) and ask the same question 9000 times in a thread
most of us do it cuz we like it and have the time for it...there are those clearly in it for the donation$ and glory (i can think of a handful of them off the top of my head....and it would probably surprise you) but thats crap imo
its always nice to see people want to get involved or try to do so...but usually the most prohibitive factor is time...it takes awhile to get familiar with this stuff, and even longer to work on it

nitsuj17 said:
lol, it does seem that way at times
when releasing work (be it roms/themes/kernels/mods) except to get **** on by a small handful of people via posts or pm's...and have people ignore your previous posts and answers (or in my case a faq section) and ask the same question 9000 times in a thread
most of us do it cuz we like it and have the time for it...there are those clearly in it for the donation$ and glory (i can think of a handful of them off the top of my head....and it would probably surprise you) but thats crap imo
its always nice to see people want to get involved or try to do so...but usually the most prohibitive factor is time...it takes awhile to get familiar with this stuff, and even longer to work on it
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Exactly my friend. I am super lazy at stuff like this, but this time around I really have no time, with my grad work and all. And, for whatever reason, I ALWAYS take forever to do the simplest things in coding... So, something that may take an hour for you, may easily take me 5-8 hours and it is NOT because of me being new to this. Even in projects where I knew what I was doing, I am very slow at coding and I don't know why... So, given the severe lack of time, now is not a good time for an android project. I wish I had an android phone a few years back, when I was much more free and really searching for things to do... I ended up making a toy app for my iPod Touch... That was really fun! But, I could tell that I was bad at it too! :/