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I don't know if this is the right place to put this so mods move it if necessary please.
Something got me thinking today "What if I could dual boot my Evo with Windows Phone 7 and Android?". I think that would make it the ultimate phone. The HD2 can run windows and android so why not the Evo also.

this is already released. there is a android 3.0/windows 7 combo rom running at 2ghz with pretty much everything working

I'm sure you can, I doubt developers who use their time on making it though
Edit: (post above) I stand corrected
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milkit said:
this is already released. There is a android 3.0/windows 7 combo rom running at 2ghz with pretty much everything working
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hahahahaha

Running haret.exe within windows to boot linux to launch android can be done...
As far as i know there is no way to do the similar on andoid to launch windows mobile.
that is why most windows mobile phones can get a port to android and not android to windows mobile.

milkit said:
this is already released. there is a android 3.0/windows 7 combo rom running at 2ghz with pretty much everything working
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Haha got me too
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gator2k83 said:
Running haret.exe within windows to boot linux to launch android can be done...
As far as i know there is no way to do the similar on andoid to launch windows mobile.
that is why most windows mobile phones can get a port to android and not android to windows mobile.
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That's just because nobody has any interest in putting WinMo 6.5 on their Android phone... WP7 on the other hand may be worth the work.

EtherealRemnant said:
That's just because nobody has any interest in putting WinMo 6.5 on their Android phone... WP7 on the other hand may be worth the work.
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may be worth the work but not the trouble... not open source...

looneylu said:
may be worth the work but not the trouble... not open source...
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Considering that some WP7 devices will most likely use Snapdragon it really shouldn't be terribly difficult to do - but yes, it would be illegal.

Actually, it would not be illegal, as of yesterday.

mrsato said:
Actually, it would not be illegal, as of yesterday.
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no, it would still be illegal because you did not obtain the microsoft portion of the software legally. To be protected under the DMCA changes made yesterday you would have to legally own the software, then it would be ok

[Q] Windows Mobile 7 on HTC Desire Z

Hello all,
I have just recently purchased a HTC desire z, therfore i have become a big fan (already linux geek) of android. However with windows mobile 7 phones recently released on the market i would like to know if anyones working or done a dual boot feature on the desire series with android and windows mobile 7?
ANY help would be amazing and thanks you

Impossible. Especially since there is no WM7. Windows Phone 7 on the other hand will be difficult if anything since there is no source.
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This being said.....i have heard that iphones can now dual boot to android or Ios. Haha
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jark99 said:
This being said.....i have heard that iphones can now dual boot to android or Ios. Haha
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Yup. iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, iPad, iPod Touch 1G and iPod Touch 4G.
No support for my 2G Touch though

i to just got a desire z on bell and wanted to go back to wm ( been useing a 6800 for 3 years) is there a rom for that for the desire???
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Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.

Lennyuk said:
Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
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I doubt that is going to stop anyone. It will just take longer.

rewen said:
I doubt that is going to stop anyone. It will just take longer.
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i just figured that sence i can put wm 6.1 or 6.5 on my treo why not on my desire????after alll it is just a operiating system on a small pc...
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joeblow_666 said:
i just figured that sence i can put wm 6.1 or 6.5 on my treo why not on my desire????after alll it is just a operiating system on a small pc...
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Doesn't the Treo have some sort of relation to a WM phone?
If anything will get WP7, it'll be the Desire HD. With it being such a close relation and all.

TheDeadCpu said:
No. No Android phone will ever have WP7.
Sendt with a HW Keyboard from my Desire Z, woop!
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This can't be true since the hardware is WP7 compatible.
My question is WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO?.
If it's to try the new OS, just go to your local dealer and play with there's for about 10 minutes, which is about how long it will take to play with all the features it comes with.

Thanks for all replies,
obviously windows mobile 7 and the desire seriers are all new products and its mostly correct that the desire hardware is compatible, this hopefully is going to be something that will be done sometime in the new year by a very clever professional programer.
so please update if you hear that someone is working on this.
the reason i want WM7 on my htc desire is because currently im iphone programming, next i will be java programming then lastly wm7 programming if all goes to plan.

The htc hd2 isnt suported for a update since it doesnt have the three hardware buttons required for wp7...im with everyone else in this thread i doubt it will get ported to android..i mean it would be nice to dual boot into wp7 but i doubt it will happen...theres not many devs for the desire z right now..well in comparison to the desire and the hero...lets just hope it may may may may happen
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I personally would like to see it happen or at least an emu, so i can watch some netflix.
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Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.

rewen said:
Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
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haha yep. It's not a matter of, "WP7 is better than Android" or vice versa...it's just because we can =P

rewen said:
Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
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From what I understand, the version of WP7 that runs on the HD2 can't access any of the Live services at the moment because it hasn't got the necessary certificate. This is likely to be another barrier to this sort of thing, though I imagine someone will get over that in time.

android 22 said:
Thanks for all replies,
obviously windows mobile 7 and the desire seriers are all new products and its mostly correct that the desire hardware is compatible, this hopefully is going to be something that will be done sometime in the new year by a very clever professional programer.
so please update if you hear that someone is working on this.
the reason i want WM7 on my htc desire is because currently im iphone programming, next i will be java programming then lastly wm7 programming if all goes to plan.
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i have had various Android smart phones in the last few Years, rooted and installed MANY many m-a-n-y ROMs and launchers. I was amazed with the 'LAUNCHER7' launcher that does not require root access. How ever, it is not the genuine Windows 7 mobile, it is the closest thing to it. It even has the 'live' tiles that you see so many times.
Go to the Android market, and search for Launcher7. I don't want to sound like an advertisement, but the author has done a good job on how it looks and feels. It even has the little fly in and out animations when you select a certain tile.

I doubt anybody even wants a wp7 port to make it worth the devs time to make it. just let that junk go... like someone else said use the launcher7 or better yet buy a windows phone! I did and took it back within two hours! Maybe if u never used a smartphone u could lke it, but anyone who is used to the freedom of android could ever backstep into that poop.
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Lennyuk said:
Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
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Exactly and this being said how would an Android device such as the Desire Z be able to support the Windows Mobile 7 Apps? On the other hand they have a home launcher in the market that changes your home interface to look exactly like the HTC HD7. You should check it out! Hope I helped a bit

nehemiahfff said:
I personally would like to see it happen or at least an emu, so i can watch some netflix.
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I doubt if there were emulator that could emulate a windows 7 phone it would not be able to run movies or much in that matter. The processing power to emulate a WP7 phone would drastically slow down the G2 even over clocked.
If we are talking about WM6... i would kind of like to see that... but wouldn't use it as a daily driver.

[Q] Developing from my phone?

Developing for android seems like it works the best when you are using ubuntu. Since you can boot ubuntu from the phones, shouldn't it be possible to write the software on the phone, from ubuntu? Or is it too restricted?

narlynarwhal said:
Developing for android seems like it works the best when you are using ubuntu. Since you can boot ubuntu from the phones, shouldn't it be possible to write the software on the phone, from ubuntu? Or is it too restricted?
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You better get a mytouch slide or a sidekick 4g because you are going to need that keyboard

jim93 said:
You better get a mytouch slide or a sidekick 4g because you are going to need that keyboard
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I was thinking about just using the built-in otg support and getting a usb hub so I could plug in a keyboard and mouse. And probably like a hard drive or something. But technically it should be possible right?

umm considering you wouldn't have enough ram to compile a build

Why not just dual boot your machine and still keep the luxury of a large display to work with lol

RaverX3X said:
umm considering you wouldn't have enough ram to compile a build
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That's kinda what I thought.
iLeopard said:
Why not just dual boot your machine and still keep the luxury of a large display to work with lol
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The only computer decent enough to do anything in my house right now is my parents' iMac and they would freak out if I installed any other operating system on it.

Windows 8

My mind is a complex and weird thing and I was just thinking windows 8 has a version to run on ARM CPUs so... I'm sure that it would require soff but do you think it is possible?
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No expert, however I think this is pretty much the same as WP7 on our devices, which so far has never been done.
Suppose they did get Linux running, but Android is built on Linux right
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treebill said:
My mind is a complex and weird thing and I was just thinking windows 8 has a version to run on ARM CPUs so... I'm sure that it would require soff but do you think it is possible?
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that would be nice..then another thing we could stick the finger to those on the S3 side hehe be nice if we could try a different OS on this beast of a phone

Its not that it cant be done, its because windows is licensed and not open like android/Linux....
So for windows to come onto other devices you would A. need to hack it witch XDA dont support or B. each and every person who installs said rom would have to buy the license key.

Yeah, and Windows for ARM isn't going to be sold retail, only pre-installed with the device.. And drivers and such I guess won't work like regualar windows, just so they can avoid things like this.. But once it's released we will know more. It can probably be done on a completely open device, because a bootloader change is probably needed in the first place, but that can probably be taken from a tegra 3 windows tablet which I bet is coming. Well, I guess time will tell.

ohhh pleasee windows 8

Windows 8 on galaxy note

good morning all
Is it possible to put Windows 8 on a galaxy note?
I've read somwhere that this can be done.
Thanks :laugh:

Windows 8 NO, It's impossible because It is an INTEL PLATAFORM
I have heard something about Windows 8 RT,
But it was also improbable for some reason I don't remember...
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One of the main reasons its windows it's closed source so you can not develope a kernel able to work with it.
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Theres info about it on website - techworld and other sites that the Galaxy Note II has it installed?
There can't be much difference between a Note mk1 and mk2 ?

yen said:
Theres info about it on website - techworld and other sites that the Galaxy Note II has it installed?
There can't be much difference between a Note mk1 and mk2 ?
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I think they're getting their phones mixed up. The note 2 will not run windows phone 8. The ATIV S is their windows phone 8 phone... They were both announced the same day, so that's probably where the confusion is coming from.

yen said:
good morning all
Is it possible to put Windows 8 on a galaxy note?
I've read somwhere that this can be done.
Thanks :laugh:
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possible...
if you have a lot of time to make kernel of windows 8 for galaxy note II..?
my opinion.. KERNEL + EMULATOR = Window8 success running to galaxy note II.

yen said:
Theres info about it on website - techworld and other sites that the Galaxy Note II has it installed?
There can't be much difference between a Note mk1 and mk2 ?
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I don't believe this is true at all because it's so ludicrous on a number of levels, provide a link to the articles you're talking about.

Medulla said:
I don't believe this is true at all because it's so ludicrous on a number of levels, provide a link to the articles you're talking about.
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Explain to me how it's ludicrous? HTC HD2 could dual boot winphone and android. I have dual booted android and windows mobile on an ATT tilt and an HTC raphael as well.

votum said:
Explain to me how it's ludicrous? HTC HD2 could dual boot winphone and android. I have dual booted android and windows mobile on an ATT tilt and an HTC raphael as well.
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It's ludicrous because all the other OS' you mention there are MOBILE OS'; the OP's talking about Windows 8 which is a desktop OS. Did you ever get your HD2 to boot Windows XP? Or OSX? Presumably not!
And that aside, if someone's read something they want to ask about then why not link to the article in question somewhere in the thread? To turn up and ramble on about some nonsense they've 'read somewhere' is useless and until it's at all substantiated then I'm going to treat it as such.
And all that aside again; seriously? Windows 8 on an Android phone that hasn't even been released yet? Why are we even taking this seriously at all?

I wish this was possible

yen said:
good morning all
Is it possible to put Windows 8 on a galaxy note?
I've read somwhere that this can be done.
Thanks :laugh:
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what?? why would you want to ruin a perfectly good operating system like andriod and put windows 8 on?? it sucks anyway and its gunna be a big flop just like vista was.

wishmasteruk said:
what?? why would you want to ruin a perfectly good operating system like andriod and put windows 8 on?? it sucks anyway and its gunna be a big flop just like vista was.
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Highly doubt it, it's faster and better than 7. Ignore Metro, and you have 7 but just better. But Win8 is impossible, Windows RT may be possible but highly unlikely.

omar300 said:
I wish this was possible
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I used to want a small Windows-XP/Vista/7 based phone that could idealy do everything my desktop/laptop could do. However, as I looked into it further, I realized it just wasn't an optimum OS to have on a phone type platform (even if it was possible).
Even on my Sony Vaio UX which had a similar sized screen as the Note 2, programs were just too difficult to navigate and use due to their design being model for a larger landscape. Also, the Windows Desktop OS's are resource-hungry, and do not utlize hardware efficiently enough to run smoothly on a phone.
Still it would be fun to do, just to say it can be done.

votum said:
Explain to me how it's ludicrous? HTC HD2 could dual boot winphone and android. I have dual booted android and windows mobile on an ATT tilt and an HTC raphael as well.
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all those devices you mentioned came with windows mobile.
because windows(all versions) is closed source it's incredibly hard to get it on a device that didn't originally have a version of windows.
android has the advantage of being open source so it's much easier to port drivers from other devices to it, and to even write completely new drivers.
but even then it's not an easy task.

Wish it was possible but sadly Microsoft does not allow to. If there was a option of Dual OS Bootup then it would have been awesome.

complete information how to install and how is it work
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kevin619 said:
complete information how to install and how is it work
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODo2In7nEng
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:sigh: Really?

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yen said:
good morning all
Is it possible to put Windows 8 on a galaxy note?
I've read somwhere that this can be done.
Thanks :laugh:
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kevin619 said:
complete information how to install and how is it work
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Lol...that video title is misleading...the galaxy note is running splashtop app..

Medulla said:
It's ludicrous because all the other OS' you mention there are MOBILE OS'; the OP's talking about Windows 8 which is a desktop OS. Did you ever get your HD2 to boot Windows XP? Or OSX? Presumably not!
And that aside, if someone's read something they want to ask about then why not link to the article in question somewhere in the thread? To turn up and ramble on about some nonsense they've 'read somewhere' is useless and until it's at all substantiated then I'm going to treat it as such.
And all that aside again; seriously? Windows 8 on an Android phone that hasn't even been released yet? Why are we even taking this seriously at all?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139694
people did get 2000 and xp running on the hd2