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I have a rooted Sprint Evo 4G and my battery has lasted no longer than 4 hours and change..... i already turned off all the recommended settings, 4g,gps, wifi, brightness, etc...
can anyone please help me...?
do i need to root my phone again?
please help!
are you using it for those 4 hours? I can drain mine that fast easy
I used my Slingplayer app on 4G while I ate lunch today and it sucked out 21% of my battery in about 30 minutes.
With heavy 4G use your Evo will power down pretty quickly. The Battery life sucks unless you know how to underclock or found a kernel that works best for your phone.
If you haven't tried a different kernel that would be my first suggestion.
Edit: Wow. Just seen you have 5 threads started about this. Really?
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Most like likely you need to erase battery stats, easiest easiest way is charge your phone to 100% then go to market and download the batterycalibration app. Use this to delete the battery stats. Let your phone charge a bit more after and go about your day, just remember it might take a day or 2 for you to see any improvement but it will help.
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I used my Slingplayer app on 4G while I ate lunch today and it sucked out 21% of my battery in about 30 minutes.
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Yep. What people have to understand is that most if not all of the battery saving tips will help your phone when idle. When you USE your phone for power intensive applications like Slingbox and don't have it plugged in, you will see battery drops like crazy. Just the nature of the phone and nothing will save you from that. If the OP is seeing these drops from idle screen off use, then he has a problem that needs to be addressed.
My take is that users need to learn their phone, have an idea of battery intensive applications and recharging/extended or spare battery needs. Anyone who thinks they can play graphic intensive games, stream videos etc. for 12 hours will be woefully disappointed that there is no magic bullet to prevent battery drain.
anyone come up with a list to enable/disable to improve battery?
I think the battery is already pretty phenomenal.
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Not for me
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Is it better than mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1266699
Stop using the light and orientation sensors. So turn off auto-rotate and don't use auto-screen brightness. Also use wifi when possible; 3g will consume more power if your signal is weak.
Sent on the run.
ShouldI hard reset
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It is not good for me either. I am loosing about 15% a hour with the screen off and not even using it. If I use the phone i can just watch it fall about 1% every 5 min. I don't get it. the only thing i have in the background running is weather, twitter and gmail. That is it nothing else. The Android OS sits about 86% use in the batter use screen. I have no idea what is causing this. Any help would be great.
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It is not good for me either. I am loosing about 15% a hour with the screen off and not even using it. If I use the phone i can just watch it fall about 1% every 5 min. I don't get it. the only thing i have in the background running is weather, twitter and gmail. That is it nothing else. The Android OS sits about 86% use in the batter use screen. I have no idea what is causing this. Any help would be great.
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Run the phone down completely, to the point where it shuts off. Then charge until the led turns blue(fully charged), then turn it on. I'll screenshot my battery status tonight.
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Is android os always posed to be that high?
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Yes lol
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Yes it is always posted that high. I have also already tried the suggestion of completely draining the battery and charging to 100% twice now. Doesn't seem to help. This is not my first android phone so I have tried all the typical turn stuff off. I started with the hero and then went to the evo. Then jumped to verizon for thunderbold and now back on sprint for this phone obviously. So far this is the worst battery life I have had yet. Seeing what you guys are getting though gives me hope.
I have tried using spareparts to get more battery information but get a force close when trying to do that.
Man I know that battery results range pretty wildly, but I'm averaging 10% loss per 2 hours.
On launch day I was on it from about 3:30pm until about 10pm and only lost about 40%. And when I say on it, I bet the screen on time was 95% of that time.
So far, the battery life is one of my favorite things about this phone. First time I've felt comfortable enough to run a live wallpaper.
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Man I know that battery results range pretty wildly, but I'm averaging 10% loss per 2 hours.
On launch day I was on it from about 3:30pm until about 10pm and only lost about 40%. And when I say on it, I bet the screen on time was 95% of that time.
So far, the battery life is one of my favorite things about this phone. First time I've felt comfortable enough to run a live wallpaper.
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You are lucky then, If i use the phone I will loose 40% in about 2 hours no problem. Also if you are loosing about 5% an hour that will only give you about 20 hours total before your dead. I see people reporting they are getting over a day. Just don't see how. Are they just not using their phone at all.
What does everyone have there screen brightness to if not set to auto brightness? Also what is everyone's screen mode set to?
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What does everyone have there screen brightness to if not set to auto brightness? Also what is everyone's screen mode set to?
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I have mine at manual and just under the A. I have the mode at standard.
What I do is look at my active app widget to make sure I have no apps running. It is nice being there. Messaging sometimes hangs, I have noticed that.
Kiki
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You SHOULD always when you get a new battery fully Drain it and then fully charge the battery with the device OFF. Thats what I did with my phone. I kept using it once I got it, it lasted around 5 hours before the phone shut off during a phone call. then when I plugged it in to charge, I plugged it in and did not turn it on and waited till it fully charged with the Blue Light. I dont know about the normal thing now adays with lithium ion batteries but you were always warned in the packaging to let your battery fully cyle its first cycle with no use at all. The cells in the batteries have a memory type of design and if you dont fully charge the battery you can prevent it from knowing its full capacity.
Now I dont know if this is true anymore with the new battery production of the manufacturers now may power cycle the batteries before they seal the whole package so the customers dont have to do it. Maybe why when you get your device the battery is around 50% now like mine came. I remember older devices you could not use your device until you fully charged the battery the first time.
About Screen Brightness, I learned from a Epic user that the best way to conserve battry usage was to always keep your Screen Brightness at 10% (Gotta love the Touchwiz Brightness Changing with the Top Notification bar, this device will not show the slider bar like Touchwiz 3.0 on the Epic but IT STILL WORKS!!!!). I have noticed that at the lowest brightness setting I can still see everything vividly enough to work with it and im getting over 24 hours with moderate normal usage (like only 1-3 5-10 minute phone calls, surfing the net, surfing for new apps) This is my first android phone. I also have had 4G turned off and Wifi off all this time as I have no way to access those right now. I also have GPS turned off because I havent needed to use it yet. I pretty much have everything but Basic needs turned on besides all the Factory default presets. I also Turned my screen mode to DYNAMIC, which seems to show more vivid colors like I use on my Samsung TV for my computer usage.
Now I turned off Live wallpaper and im using one of the preinstall basic Grey ones (the one with the asfault looking spot light) (I have been trying to hit the crazy benchmarks people are getting trying to find out why I am not getting the 93+mflops mine keeps hitting 80's) So I dont know what heavy usage is doing to my phone.
but then again this is only under 48 hours of ownage. My first full night off the charger was 1 day and 3hours before it said I was 5% battery life and I plugged it in.
My battery seem to overheat alot,its even uncomfortable to hold up to my face sometimes. Is this normal? The back gets very hot two.
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My GN seems to get ridiculously hot pretty often for NO reason. Up around the camera is usually where the heat is focused.
Yup around the camera is where it happens to me too. It usually only happens when I stream Google Music or Slacker
Mines gets hot there too while im just browsing
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Just browsing? That can't be good. Are you rooted? If so, how high do you got your phone over clocked? Maybe you also may have too many processes opened
Most LTE devices heat up under browsing. Its not the battery that gets hot.
Also, I cannot think of a single phone I have had on Verizon that did not get warm during extended calls.
mine heats up a lot also. After talking or browsing for a while it does get warm.
What's your LTE signal strength? If you only have a bar or so, it's been my experience that the phone will heat up trying to keep the connection. At work, I've had to turn off LTE in order to keep the phone cool and save the battery.
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My GN seems to get ridiculously hot pretty often for NO reason. Up around the camera is usually where the heat is focused.
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Two reasons why that area gets hot:
1) LTE antenna
2) SoC (CPU/GPU)
Both are in the top of the phone, away from the battery. If you're taxing either the CPU or your data connection, it will heat up. As long as your battery isn't getting hot (heat increases the decay rate in lithium-based batteries) you're fine. Silicon can take a lot more heat than your hand can without sustaining damage.
I might need to get a case for my phone and screen protector
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I have Battery Monitor Widget installed, and it has been enlightening. Here are my observations, using the charger that came with the phone:
The following behaviors happen on the stock ROM (using the Franco Kernel), CM9, and BlackIce:
If I am on WiFi and charging, it charges quickly, and the battery temperature reported by the app stays within the default limit (45C).
If I am on 3G, and on the charger (whether using the phone for anything or not!), the app shows the battery temp rising quickly, the charge rate drops to zero. The battery is no more than 35C based on my best guess when touching it, HOWEVER the area around the camera is very warm I (where the phone radios are). If I unplug the charger for a minute or two, the temp drops, and plugging back in will start charging again, for a short time, until it heats up again.
Underclocking seems to help this issue, as I discovered, a short while ago (playing with the BlackIce ROM, today), and I will update, once I play with it some more. This said, my suspicion is that the processor heating up is the issue, and NOT the battery, though Battery Monitor Widget claims the battery is overheating. Throttling the processor should help. Underclocking and undervolting BOTH, should help even more, I bet.
It's normal for LTE devices to warm up during extended/heavy use. It's not bad for the device unless you hear a pop or smell burning.
Heat shields FTW!
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It's normal for LTE devices to warm up during extended/heavy use. It's not bad for the device unless you hear a pop or smell burning.
Heat shields FTW!
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It IS, however, a problem, if your device is getting warm enough that it ceases charging itself, which has been my experience.
Imagine this scenario: Your phone is below 15% charge, and you plug it in, hoping to be able to get through the day. It charges for five or maybe ten minutes, then you see the battery level start to DROP, rather than rise. (and forget charging, in the car, while you use navigation, or play music, of both) This is what is happening with mine.
The Battery Monitor Widget says that the battery is overheating, when, in fact this seems to be processor and radio related, since it only happens on 3G (and presumably LTE, though I haven't verified it) and only when allowed to operate at a normal clock speed on the CPU--forget overclocking, that worsens the issue, too, and all of this happens, even when the device is sitting idle.
This happened to me on both the FD01 and FD02 radios (I didn't use FC12 long enough matter), so I suspect that we can rule out the radio.
Reiterating, this happens on the stock ROM (with Franco Kernel), and both CM9 and BlackIce, with their respective kernels that they are packaged with. This begs the question of whether it is a problem with the process that monitors the battery charging using up more CPU than it seems necessary for such a mundane task,
Everything else on this phone works wonderfully, so I don't believe that I have a bad device. I should not have to UNDERCLOCK such a high tech device, so that i can charge it effectively when it is sitting idle.
Any thoughts on this? Anyone else have these issues?
When I have my phone plugged in and am tethering 2 worrying things happen.
A. The phone drains battery VERY VERY quickly, (yes even when plugged in). Quickly I mean like 20-30 percent in half an hour.
B. The phone starts to get very very hot. So hot that when I turn it off, it does not let me charge and instead the overheating icon flashes. If I leave it on, the screen and the capacitive touch buttons start to flash erratically and the back gets even hotter.
This kind of frightens me, is it happening to anybody else? If so can you please post. Also I am using Blazer ROM 3.8 if that makes a difference. Please reply thanks!
How are you tethering? Through usb or wireless hotspot? Are you tethered while on 3G or 4G? How is your signal while tethered? All these things are relevent so answer these these questions so we can offer you some advice.
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How are you tethering? Through usb or wireless hotspot? Are you tethered while on 3G or 4G? How is your signal while tethered? All these things are relevent so answer these these questions so we can offer you some advice.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I am tethering through the Sprint Wifi Hotspot on 4G. I have 2 bars on 4G when I am doing this.
Need anything else?
rapman543 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I am tethering through the Sprint Wifi Hotspot on 4G. I have 2 bars on 4G when I am doing this.
Need anything else?
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Check your task manager and see how many apps you have eatting at your CPU.....and are you overclocked?....if yes...don't overclock while teathering
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what rom you on?? When I was on blazer 3.8 it was like you stated. Since I've been on 3.9 it doesn't get nearly as hot or drain as fast.
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Mine overheats when using Netflix over 4G and charging. I run my phone stock and really clean with nothing extra running. Sometimes I get an image freeze and a short sound loop and I have to force shut down. But usually it just tells me that it isn't charging anymore due to the battery being too hot. The battery is always cold, but the phone is hot.
The phone runs hot. Wot wah.
I'm on 3.8 (the first version) I got really confused when he released another one the same day? I have nothing else running and I have not touched any CPU settings, so I'll just have to conclude the phone runs hot. Can this permanently damage the phone? If so what can I do to prevent that. Thanks again for the replies!
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I'm on 3.8 (the first version) I got really confused when he released another one the same day? I have nothing else running and I have not touched any CPU settings, so I'll just have to conclude the phone runs hot. Can this permanently damage the phone? If so what can I do to prevent that. Thanks again for the replies!
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Heat is the phone's worst enemy. I love PH and his work but you gotta stay away from heat. It shortens the life span of your phone.
Edit: he updated it today so I'd give that a try.
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Yeah get off 3.8 as soon as you can, when I did the problems you mentioned went away. BTW I'm on his latest 3.9 and it is far superior in every way...3.8 didn't like our phones too much!
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i've definitely had this same exact problem.. Phone/Battery heats up (>40C) and drains quickly with 4g and wifi tethering active. I think overheating the battery like this will shorten the life of the battery in the long run.
Maybe tethering over usb is the solution. fwiw my evo used to tether 4g without this issue. im using blazer 3.9 (upgraded from 3.7, wasnt ever on 3.8) stock clocks/kernel.
Hot LIPOs are less efficient in their discharging and will drain more amp-hours than if they were cold and doing the same things. Running them hot will also shorten their life, correct.
If you battery runs hot, swap it for a cold one* and wait until your battery is cold to charge it off a wall charger or something. These low C rated batteries we use don't really get toasty from just charging, but you are wasting energy trying to charge a hot battery over a cold battery.
*Beer does not supply the minimum 3.7v
This is gonna sound super ghetto, but it's what I do and it works. When your are running your tether, have the phone plugged in, take an ice pack and a couple paper towels. Put the paper towels on top of the ice pack and your phone on top of that and you're golden for about an hour. Keeps it at a nice 25°c
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This is gonna sound super ghetto, but it's what I do and it works. When your are running your tether, have the phone plugged in, take an ice pack and a couple paper towels. Put the paper towels on top of the ice pack and your phone on top of that and you're golden for about an hour. Keeps it at a nice 25°c
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sounds like it would work... but there has to be a better way. I tether at work a lot (to get around pages i use like netflix/facebook and whatnot being blocked) what i've been doing is limiting my tethering based on how warm the phone is, when it heats up past 40 i give it a rest (and get back to work).
Helping me find a lasting fix to this problem will allow me to be less productive, and hopefully extend the life of my s2.
I have been meaning to make a thread on this. It happens when tethering only, that the phone overheats.
The reason being is the power management for tether I think got bonkered with the addition of 4g tether. Something is not optimized. The battery level literally deplete 10% within minutes
I've overheated to the point where my vibration motor makes noise, and got corrupt data twice. So now I have to tether with a glass of ice on my phone, ice pack would be better.
I appreciate the tether, but the trade off is ridiculous.
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See, this is weird... I've been wondering why my phone DOESN'T heat up appreciably while tethering, w or without 4g. My og epic always would for sure. I do the same type of browsing on tether with this phone (not super intense, just browsing, but it always heated up the og epic) and the phone stays cool to the touch, or maybe just barely perceptibly warmer. Not even enough to make me check batt temp.
I'm running stock rooted, using sprint hotspot hack. No overclock. FWIW.
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I would just take the back off the phone and have a small fan blow into it. Also I heard underclocking to 800 MHz while tethering will keep your phone cooler.
Thanks for the amazing replies people! I recently switched onto 3.9 and to calibrate my battery I charged to 100% and tethered on 4G for about 2 hours no problem. So I suppose it was just some problem with 3.8 then?
Ditto
Same thing happens to me but from daily use. I'm on the web a lot. I'm rooted but running stock rom. It's been really bad the last few days, especially after I changed the 4G idle speed. So that may be one issue for me. Oh well
I experienced the same problem , but I think it's due to tethering as the CPU is processing and forwarding more traffic . I fixed this by limiting the tethering download speed . I used an app called bandwidth ruler for that . and my samsung SIII is relaxed while tethering
APP:
Bandwidth ruler free on goolge Store
XDA thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-bandwidth-manager-android-t2972889
Background: Rooted, stock rom.
- Just bought the phone on Saturday, charged it fully and played around with it on Sunday literally just moderate texting, making short calls, and taking a couple of pictures and the battery pretty much dies by 2 PM. Will the battery life improve over time?
This is with the settings tweaked to maximum battery conservation (15% screen brightness, NFC/S Beam off, No motion controls, battery savings on, the works.)
- Also, in that time the phone seemed to be fairly hot, I cannot recall the temperature, but it was hot to the touch. And when I tried downloading the OTA update from T-mobile, the bottom half of the phone (everything below the battery) became drastically hot. But the battery remained relatively cool. Is this something I should worry about?
I'd just like to know so I can exchange the phone while I still can.
I just got mine on Friday and I noticed the same issue. It seems to get hot whenever its doing something data intensive live streaming a youtube vid or downloading a app.
Thanks for the response.
I used it for about 15 minutes this morning reading a web page on Chrome and it seemed to get warm.
Also streamed HD YouTube as well as Spotify for about 15 minutes and it's still warm.
The thing is, these are the first really data-intensive things that I have done so far.
I'm going to go through a whole day just to see what happens.
Forgot to add that I even reduced my CPU through SetCPU to 1.2Ghz the since I rooted it
It's at 87% after 2h 20m 46s on battery.
With only 42m 23s of screen time.
It should calm down after a couple of charge cycles. For battery. Also make sure auto brightness, auto sync is off, gps, motIon control, voIce cmd, etc.
I dont use the battery saving feature and get great life. But I remember a few times it getting hot after a fresh flash but it always calmed down for me. Getting warm is normal, especially if on the charger while using.
Theres a lot of features I like but dont use much so for me its worth the few extra seconds to turn it on/off.
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I am having the same issues. I got acwhite one last week and it is constantly hot near the home button. I am probably gonna revert to stock and return for another. My s2 did not do this.
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It's at 87% after 2h 20m 46s on battery.
With only 42m 23s of screen time.
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13% drain for almost 45mins screen time.
Sick
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So I have completed my school day.
11h 25m 45s on battery
Battery percentage is at 57%.
I barely used the phone however.
Sent about 10 texts, went on Chrome and searched the web for about 15 minutes, took 8 pictures, instagram for 3 minutes.
Also kept getting e-mails (probably like 10 of them)
I turned on Power Saving mode as well.
Screen is the highest with 1h 32m 24s using 38% on my battery.
Would this be normal on the stock T-mobile rom with no updates?
I've never had an Android phone before so I wouldn't know.
But after researching, some people managed to be at around 70% usage by the end of the day. While doing more intensive tasks.
It's probably the service when you're inside buildings. If it's bad service it'll drain your battery.. if it's constantly trying to connect 4g you're going to have a short time *insert ski instructor meme*
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I suggest you guys flash Exajoule. His ROM is insane on battery & its really fast as well.
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I had the heats issues and ot turned out to be a borked phone. I returned for a swap and the new s3 is worlds apart from the last. Less heat and better performance
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You should check to see what's consuming CPU... (long press the home button, and go into the task manager...) should see something consuming cpu...
(when my phone's warm, it's generally because something's gone psycho on cpu use...)
scifan said:
You should check to see what's consuming CPU... (long press the home button, and go into the task manager...) should see something consuming cpu...
(when my phone's warm, it's generally because something's gone psycho on cpu use...)
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Or better yet in dev options turn on Show cpu Usage. In the top right corner of your screen it will show whats running.
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Teo032 said:
It's probably the service when you're inside buildings. If it's bad service it'll drain your battery.. if it's constantly trying to connect 4g you're going to have a short time *insert ski instructor meme*
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At home, I literally get 0-2 bars. But at school I can consistently get anywhere from 1-4 bars.
This could possibly be it, but I am not too sure how much my signal fluctuates throughout the school.
Britannia, troklwit
belial20xx said:
I had the heats issues and ot turned out to be a borked phone. I returned for a swap and the new s3 is worlds apart from the last. Less heat and better performance
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I had given my local T-mobile store a call and they said that smartphones should be regularly heating.
It's strange to me how I can do a task a simple as texting and it heats up though.
How long did you have the borked S3 for?
I 2nd the bad carrier coverage notion. Just as a test, I put my phone into airplane mode while watching a video. I watched the same video while out of airplane mode. The battery drained faster while on the carrier's network than not. I noticed the signal meter was at 3 bars before I played the video.
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Or better yet in dev options turn on Show cpu Usage. In the top right corner of your screen it will show whats running.
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I haven't tried that... though most of the time my phone's running cool...
Better Through Time
I decided to instal CM10 on my phone and it really did help.
I just got home from school/finished most of my day and here's the update:
63% left
9h 45m 29s on battery
1h 21m 33s screen on time
This makes me feel so much better considering that I actually used the device more today than ever before.
(HD YouTube videos, streamed Spotify, lots of internet browsing, more calls/texts.)
Even with the added usage CM10 seemed to have improved my battery life by a lot!
Not sure if I can totally attribute it to CM10 or just more charge cycles, but everything seems to be working better for me.
Thanks for all of the help!
The phone still runs hot sometimes but it has decreased over the last couple of days.
I have noticed on my phone that since installing Liquid Smooth rom has resulted in much better battery life than on the stock rom. However, ever since I have owned the phone, if i have the screen on for more than 10 minutes or so the screen gets really warm right above the home button. Anybody else experiencing this?
trimble83 said:
I have noticed on my phone that since installing Liquid Smooth rom has resulted in much better battery life than on the stock rom. However, ever since I have owned the phone, if i have the screen on for more than 10 minutes or so the screen gets really warm right above the home button. Anybody else experiencing this?
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Same problem. I just assume that's where the processor is? It doesn't bother me. Its quite funny because the top of my screen is cold. And it doesn't get hot when I'm using it for browsing, texting, the usual. Not unless I play a game.
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trimble83 said:
I have noticed on my phone that since installing Liquid Smooth rom has resulted in much better battery life than on the stock rom. However, ever since I have owned the phone, if i have the screen on for more than 10 minutes or so the screen gets really warm right above the home button. Anybody else experiencing this?
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I'm assuming that Samsung's stock TouchWiz isn't as optimized as the ROMs that the devs make on here.
Which is a definite plus to having a device that has a strong community of developers behind it.
That happens to me as well. I have kind of gotten used to it. Just slip on a case so when you hold it your hand doesn't get sweaty and you should be fine. I would assume that's where the processor lives, but I am not too certain.