The title is pretty self explanatory . What's your opinion on this my fellow Epic 4G Touch owners.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1851844
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Yeah, apple won against Samsung, lol but they royally pissed off google. Google just bought out Motorola patents.. And in turn just started and infringement copyright suit against apple for using Motorola radio patents. No more iphone,ipad,ipod being shipped to US, Australia, or the UK till after a ruling lol.. Guess they should have played nice.
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Yeah, apple won against Samsung, lol but they royally pissed off google. Google just bought out Motorola patents.. And in turn just started and infringement copyright suit against apple for using Motorola radio patents. No more iphone,ipad,ipod being shipped to US, Australia, or the UK till after a ruling lol.. Guess they should have played nice.
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that would be awesome ..... while these companies kill each other, ill use an old flip phone that my mom has somewhere in her bedroom
Yeah there's really no "taking the high road" on this one. If apples not going to let up Google should just fire back with all they have. I hate to say it but its clear apple will never stop with rediculous suits, so Google should follow suit. Let em have it.
I made a pinewood derby car in 1989 that looks a hell of a lot like the iPhone 4, think I should sue too. And just like the iPhone it would have had to cheat to win.
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I don't know how Apple won with the design patent....my phone looks nothing like an iPhone.....period.
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Yeah, apple won against Samsung, lol but they royally pissed off google. Google just bought out Motorola patents.. And in turn just started and infringement copyright suit against apple for using Motorola radio patents. No more iphone,ipad,ipod being shipped to US, Australia, or the UK till after a ruling lol.. Guess they should have played nice.
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that would be awesome ..... while these companies kill each other, ill use an old flip phone that my mom has somewhere in her bedroom
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Yeah there's really no "taking the high road" on this one. If apples not going to let up Google should just fire back with all they have. I hate to say it but its clear apple will never stop with rediculous suits, so Google should follow suit. Let em have it.
I made a pinewood derby car in 1989 that looks a hell of a lot like the iPhone 4, think I should sue too. And just like the iPhone it would have had to cheat to win.
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Lmao.. That's great shlesh yeh, Google finally stopped laying dormant about the issue... http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-sleeping-giant-may-have-awoken/
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I don't know how Apple won with the design patent....my phone looks nothing like an iPhone.....period.
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It's not the shape that is the issue, it's the shape and combination of what the interface looks like.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/08/apple-samsung-internal-document-mimicry/
That is an internal document from Samsung detailing how they were to make the Galaxy S feel more like an iPhone.
That is why they lost.
They definitely copied the iPhone with the first Galaxy S line
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Now saying that the Galaxy SII copied the iPhone in shape and UI is a bit of a stretch.
The whole dispute about the "Touch to scroll, pinch to zoom, tap to zoom" thing doesn't mean that those actions belong to Apple, It means that the implementation of it belongs to them.
Android as a whole uses a different implementation so we will not lose those features.
Google warned Samsung to not plagiarize and Samsung did not listen.
I would have been surprised if they won, to be honest.
Apple only superficially won, it will more than likely be drastically reduced or overturned rom appeals. There's no way in hell those jurors answered all 700 questions on the juror petition in 21 hours, that's 100 questions every 3 hours. And the jurors admitted they made their decision the first day. I guarantee you not one of those 12 people understood anything about patent law before or after they found in favor of apple, and i guarantee you more than 70% of those jurors own ipads and iPhones so of course they will rule in favor of the psuedogod crapple and all of their ifail products. Its utterly ridiculous. Not to mention all of apples patents on software was opensource software no one patented because it was opensource so apple just stole it and patented it to claim rights to it and try and stop android because they are losing their market share due to them not innovating anything and just slapping a new number on the same tired OS and device and selling is as a new breakthrough product. Sooner or later people are gonna wise up to the scam and stop paying 600$ for the same device they already own cuz it has a few new apps a new product number and is claimed to be brand new, when really its damn near identical to what they already own.
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Why is it that every time I see the comparison its while the Samsung has the app drawer open?
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Why is it that every time I see the comparison its while the Samsung has the app drawer open?
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Because it doesn't look the same otherwise.
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Because Samsung copied the tiled icons in the Galaxy S Touchwiz UI.
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How about somebody come up with something totally different than what is out there now? HTC, samsung, motorola, lg, or even apple. You have to admit a lot of the "new" in cellphones is starting to slow down. You want to stop the lawsuits? Come up with something different.Maybe spend a little more on R&D. I'm tired of the complaining on both sides.
Ophois said:
It's not the shape that is the issue, it's the shape and combination of what the interface looks like.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/08/apple-samsung-internal-document-mimicry/
That is an internal document from Samsung detailing how they were to make the Galaxy S feel more like an iPhone.
That is why they lost.
They definitely copied the iPhone with the first Galaxy S line
Now saying that the Galaxy SII copied the iPhone in shape and UI is a bit of a stretch.
The whole dispute about the "Touch to scroll, pinch to zoom, tap to zoom" thing doesn't mean that those actions belong to Apple, It means that the implementation of it belongs to them.
Android as a whole uses a different implementation so we will not lose those features.
Google warned Samsung to not plagiarize and Samsung did not listen.
I would have been surprised if they won, to be honest.
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Ya the S2 is when they started to say let's make the iPhone but bigger, faster, better, stronger. This is not good for Android, ultimately the customers pay in the end. And was this a surprise to anyone Steve Jobs' dying wish was pretty much get rid of Android by any means necessary, it is probably in Tim Cooks contract somewhere to be rid of Android by 2015 or something. I mean Jobs said go "thermonuclear" on Android, I'm pretty sure they are prepared for this fighting back and they do have a hell of a lot of money to the extent last year they were trying to figure out were to spend in the company because they had so much laying around. Anyway screw apple, they suck. They are suing over old devices anyway.
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Then I guess android have to fight apple no matter what..
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Here is the part from the jury forman.
"Update 4: One more quote from the foreman, thanks to Bloomberg News:
“When I got in this case and I started looking at these patents I considered: ‘If this was my patent and I was accused, could I defend it?’” Hogan explained. On the night of Aug. 22, after closing arguments, “a light bulb went on in my head,” he said. “I thought, I need to do this for all of them.”
Word on the street is that this so called jury foreman has his own patent for something I dont know what and that he came under dispute over it. This jury foreman LOST that dispute and had a axe to grind hence on why he said I need to do this for all of them.
This whole trial was nothing but a rigged scam and a fraud. The judge and get this worked for the law firm that handles apple's patent cases. Yes she used to be a lawyer that worked for apple and apple was a client.
Now you have a jury foreman who had a axe to grind because he lost his patent case
Too much BS in this case. The deck was stacked from the gitgo against samsung. Pretty funny tho that in Asia and even the EU samsung is kicking apple's arse and winning cases.
You have a judge, jury foreman and even the jury who had their minds made up from day 1 and that was that samsung was guilty. Then to read this crap of the crap decisions like no samsung didnt violate this and yet they deemed samsung should pay anyway.
I hope that samsung appeals and I really hope its all thrown out. I am not saying all this because I hate apple or that I am a andriod fanboy I am saying this because this was not a fair trial and this trial should NOT have been done where it was. It should have done outside of apples sphere of influence, ie, silicon valley.
If what is being said about the judge and her ties to the law firm that handles apples patent cases for apple and the jury foreman then if we have a fair and right justice system in this country then this will get thrown out on appeal. If so then I can see this at the door step of the SCOTUS.
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When asked about skipping the evidence of prior art:
"In fact we skipped that one," Ilagan continued, "so we could go on faster. It was bogging us down."
LOL skipped it huh, bogging us down huh. LMAO this trial was a scam and a fruad.
It will be appealed, then that will be appealed, etc, etc. Long drawn out crap that only makes more money for lawyers. Time would be better spent watching infomercials on tv.
Wizard220 said:
Here is the part from the jury forman.
"Update 4: One more quote from the foreman, thanks to Bloomberg News:
“When I got in this case and I started looking at these patents I considered: ‘If this was my patent and I was accused, could I defend it?’” Hogan explained. On the night of Aug. 22, after closing arguments, “a light bulb went on in my head,” he said. “I thought, I need to do this for all of them.”
Word on the street is that this so called jury foreman has his own patent for something I dont know what and that he came under dispute over it. This jury foreman LOST that dispute and had a axe to grind hence on why he said I need to do this for all of them.
This whole trial was nothing but a rigged scam and a fraud. The judge and get this worked for the law firm that handles apple's patent cases. Yes she used to be a lawyer that worked for apple and apple was a client.
Now you have a jury foreman who had a axe to grind because he lost his patent case
Too much BS in this case. The deck was stacked from the gitgo against samsung. Pretty funny tho that in Asia and even the EU samsung is kicking apple's arse and winning cases.
You have a judge, jury foreman and even the jury who had their minds made up from day 1 and that was that samsung was guilty. Then to read this crap of the crap decisions like no samsung didnt violate this and yet they deemed samsung should pay anyway.
I hope that samsung appeals and I really hope its all thrown out. I am not saying all this because I hate apple or that I am a andriod fanboy I am saying this because this was not a fair trial and this trial should NOT have been done where it was. It should have done outside of apples sphere of influence, ie, silicon valley.
If what is being said about the judge and her ties to the law firm that handles apples patent cases for apple and the jury foreman then if we have a fair and right justice system in this country then this will get thrown out on appeal. If so then I can see this at the door step of the SCOTUS.
Oh another tid bit.
When asked about skipping the evidence of prior art:
"In fact we skipped that one," Ilagan continued, "so we could go on faster. It was bogging us down."
LOL skipped it huh, bogging us down huh. LMAO this trial was a scam and a fruad.
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Ok let's say it get's appealed and Samsung still lose...will everyone in here be happy and say "Ok that's how its is." Or is everyone just going to hate on Apple some more? Honestly curious.
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i showed off my galaxy s2 to some of my friends, it seems that all of them claim their iphone is better and all that crap with no backings to prove it, i even told them mine runs at 1.83ghz with a larger screen, better camera and all that
the only response was "but iphone is apple"
I think an amazing summation of the Apple obsession is the new Samsung ad with all the Apple people in line for the new iPhone. IMO this is the best ad of the year. It's about time that someone at least TRIED to wipe that smug look off of the collective face of iPhone users. iOS is a nightmare. As a former Objective-C dev for the iPhone I'm sure the community has heard all the trials and tribulations of dealing with Apple's App Store process.
Apple is an amazing marketing company. That's all. The are able to sell an inferior phone with outdated technology for a premium price and people LAP IT UP. I for one will never be ashamed to show off my SGS2 to any iPhone user.
"Yeah but it doesn't have Siri"
Brands are everything in our society it naturally it carries over to cell phones.
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hobakill said:
I think an amazing summation of the Apple obsession is the new Samsung ad with all the Apple people in line for the new iPhone. IMO this is the best ad of the year. It's about time that someone at least TRIED to wipe that smug look off of the collective face of iPhone users. iOS is a nightmare. As a former Objective-C dev for the iPhone I'm sure the community has heard all the trials and tribulations of dealing with Apple's App Store process.
Apple is an amazing marketing company. That's all. The are able to sell an inferior phone with outdated technology for a premium price and people LAP IT UP. I for one will never be ashamed to show off my SGS2 to any iPhone user.
"Yeah but it doesn't have Siri"
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IMO the iPeople have their brains sucked out by Apple
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i showed off my galaxy s2 to some of my friends, it seems that all of them claim their iphone is better and all that crap with no backings to prove it, i even told them mine runs at 1.83ghz with a larger screen, better camera and all that
the only response was "but iphone is apple"
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LOL @ the girl @ 1.04 in the commercial "why don't you just get 4g phones".
That's a great commercial and is the truth.Then at the end the dude said the retro thing. Apple fans always have a way to make theirs seem like the best.
iPhone was cool for 3 months when I bought it, jail broke it, installed cydia, winter board and did some theming stuff. Then I sold it for something else cause it got boring.
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i showed off my galaxy s2 to some of my friends, it seems that all of them claim their iphone is better and all that crap with no backings to prove it, i even told them mine runs at 1.83ghz with a larger screen, better camera and all that
the only response was "but iphone is apple"
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"but iphone is apple"... If someone telling me that my answer will be "sorry i dont deal with ignorance " and "sorry i dont use crap".
going to compare Rolls Royce (iphone) to Lamborghini Murcielago (SGS2)?
Talking about brand, yes i admit that iphone got that, as i said iphone like a Rolls Royce car, its more to build quality, but who care, i want performances wise. Something features rich, super speed, and Ofcoz Lamboghini Murcielago,
Now imagine if Sgs2 have same build quality as iphone, then ofcoz the price must be higher than iphone. And maybe not many people going to buy sgs2 because of the scary price. Unless you're deep pocket.
In my country (Malaysia), iphone mostly use by chinese girls, prostitute, gay, ladyboy, and sometimes you can see 13years old school boys bring ip4s.. Is your friends belong to any of this group?
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"So this is what adultery feels like?" LMAO...
I think brand name stuff is only for street cred and rep within the society...Same thing with cars. Why do people buy a lower end BMW when they could get a fully loaded japanese car for just about the same price?...Yes BMW's are awesome, but many people don't know how horrible their electronic components are. So why do people buy iPhones? Well many people don't know how horrible and outdated their technology is, etc... you guys get my point...
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In my country (Malaysia), iphone mostly use by chinese girls, prostitute, gay, ladyboy, and sometimes you can see 13years old school boys bring ip4s.. Is your friends belong to any of this group?
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I'm an apple lover. I have had amazing experiences with Apple in terms of both product quality and service. When the iPhone first came out, of course I wanted one. But then I saw the g1 and feel in love.
My love for Apple ends with their laptops because why spend more for a desktop with less performance that can't be upgraded. I will only ever buy Apple laptops for the rest of my life. Period. But when it comes to my phone, I want it to look and feel like I want it to. And my treats change quite often.
However there are people like my wife or my mother who don't need that ability. They want to be able to change the wallpaper and then they want it to just work, and for people like that, an iphone is perfect.
There is no such thing as better, both types of device have a purpose and a valid customer base. That said, do I like to show pugs my huge screen to my iPhone loving best friend? Yes. Does she like to bring up that she can go days with not charging? Yes. Both have benefits.
Except wp7. That just sucks.
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Oh i'm not ashamed to show it of, it just surprises me that such large amount odd people would buy apple's crap at such a over priced price point
babymatteo said:
"So this is what adultery feels like?" LMAO...
I think brand name stuff is only for street cred and rep within the society...Same thing with cars. Why do people buy a lower end BMW when they could get a fully loaded japanese car for just about the same price?...Yes BMW's are awesome, but many people don't know how horrible their electronic components are. So why do people buy iPhones? Well many people don't know how horrible and outdated their technology is, etc... you guys get my point...
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I agree. Apple is amazing and all, but our phones outperform it and have more features. But yhr thing is, Apple has a name. How did they get that? By supporting their products. All iPhones get timely updates and excellent customer support. That's why people stick to apple more. We still haven't gotten wifi calling even though it was promised at purchase. Blame T-Mobile or Samsung, but if an Iphone had a similar issue, an update would be expected within one to two weeks nno matter what the carrier is. Another thing is that unfortunately until Apple adopts a certain feature (NFC for instance) it won't go mainstream that can be used anywhere and everywhere. Don't get me wrong. I am in NO WAY an apple fanboy, I love android and live my S2. But you have to give them credit for what they do right.
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"but iphone is apple"... If someone telling me that my answer will be "sorry i dont deal with ignorance " and "sorry i dont use crap".
going to compare Rolls Royce (iphone) to Lamborghini Murcielago (SGS2)?
Talking about brand, yes i admit that iphone got that, as i said iphone like a Rolls Royce car, its more to build quality, but who care, i want performances wise. Something features rich, super speed, and Ofcoz Lamboghini Murcielago,
Now imagine if Sgs2 have same build quality as iphone, then ofcoz the price must be higher than iphone. And maybe not many people going to buy sgs2 because of the scary price. Unless you're deep pocket.
In my country (Malaysia), iphone mostly use by chinese girls, prostitute, gay, ladyboy, and sometimes you can see 13years old school boys bring ip4s.. Is your friends belong to any of this group?
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but iPhone is made of cheap glass that shatters easily most of iPhone parts are made and assembled by Samsung and Foxconn
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but iPhone is made of cheap glass that shatters easily most of iPhone parts are made and assembled by Samsung and Foxconn
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Iphone is using gorilla glass.
Good read on the iphone parts: http://www.economist.com/node/21525685
Now that the 4S is using a core supplied by samsung, I would only imagine more of the iphone is actually made my samsung.
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/10/19/tests-prove-iphone-4s-processor-made-samsung/
So in the end, apple products have their roots deep in samsung origins. Brands does matter. That's how a cheap $1 shirt sells for $100 dollars - you slap a logo on it.
iPhones are better.
...depending on the user that is. There is no best phone for EVERYONE. Too many variables and individual desires and tastes to claim one is universally better then an other one. Pick the one you ultimately prefer and that one is "better" for you.
Additionally, most Android phones have a very limited shelf life in terms of performance and features. Within 6-8 months something better will replace it.
Back on the question regarding brands....My honest answer is yes it does matter to me at least. Example, I would rather pay more for Levis over a brand like Wrangler or something similar even though they were the same quality.
I keep asking this question to isheep people. What happens when the iphone murders all competition and its the only phone you can buy. Cause lets face it companies will sell what makes money. And apple is gold.
I think its fine to buy what you like but not giving the competition a chance is just bad for the economy . Its just like if we all bought at walmart and not target.target would only be right in closing down thus losing all the jobs as a result .so no i wont by the "honda civic" of phones. Ill stick with my gas guzzling tinkering muscle car of a phone.
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Iphone is using gorilla glass.
Good read on the iphone parts: http://www.economist.com/node/21525685
Now that the 4S is using a core supplied by samsung, I would only imagine more of the iphone is actually made my samsung.
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/10/19/tests-prove-iphone-4s-processor-made-samsung/
So in the end, apple products have their roots deep in samsung origins. Brands does matter. That's how a cheap $1 shirt sells for $100 dollars - you slap a logo on it.
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i can't see how it's made of gorilla glass considering the fact that galaxy s2 uses the same glass on screen, and the iphone couldnt survive the same drop..
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I keep asking this question to isheep people. What happens when the iphone murders all competition and its the only phone you can buy. Cause lets face it companies will sell what makes money. And apple is gold.
I think its fine to buy what you like but not giving the competition a chance is just bad for the economy . Its just like if we all bought at walmart and not target.target would only be right in closing down thus losing all the jobs as a result .so no i wont by the "honda civic" of phones. Ill stick with my gas guzzling tinkering muscle car of a phone.
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i definitely agree with you, just look at the desktop market..
i see a bunch of people claiming how imacs are better..blah blah...
but..
it uses the same hardware, hell..lower end hardware compared to everyday pcs, it's restrictive and extremely overpriced(i've successfully combined the same build as a 2000dollar imac for 600dollars on newegg)
now the pc dominates the macs, theres definitely no arguments about that..and they've already overpriced their computers..what do you think would happen when microsoft is out of the equation? computers would cost more than 10grand/pc
and performance per watt would probably go up by 10% per year, instead of doubling per 18 months now(according to moore's law)
Also, to the guy talking about shelf life..
Yes, android phones gets replaced rather quickly, but if you used your brain a little, you'd realize that's the result of competition, manufactures push out new phones every now and then to compete with each other, so not only do we get higher performance phones but better price points as well.
eh. To me it's to each his own. But honestly iOS feels outdated. I've used it on iPod Touches and my iPad since 2008. Really nothing has changed except it became more bloated. I think it's time for a redesign.
I'm not gonna lie, the iPhone is probably one of the nicest looking phones i've seen. But I'm not a huge iOS fan anymore. I really only like Apple computers.
You gotta hand it tohem for still being in the game for providing an OS that is practically unchanged over the years. Goes to show how far brand power can go. I have seen android evolve over the years since the g1 but I would say the target audience is everyone. Anyone can buy any kind of android phone within any price range. I would say there is a specific audience that is targeted with apple. They have loyalty with them and others will follow, possibly breaking the bank to do it. I have worked for plenty of doctors and none of them owned an android phone. Mostly apple products and would upgrade when a new one came out. Why? Because they have the funds to do so.
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eh. To me it's to each his own. But honestly iOS feels outdated. I've used it on iPod Touches and my iPad since 2008. Really nothing has changed except it became more bloated. I think it's time for a redesign.
I'm not gonna lie, the iPhone is probably one of the nicest looking phones i've seen. But I'm not a huge iOS fan anymore. I really only like Apple computers.
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Link to Android Central article
Apple has once again called Samsung into court. This time it's about the Galaxy Nexus and four patents that Apple says it infringes. The patents in question are:
U.S. Patent No. 5,946,647: a patent for data being used as a hyperlink
U.S. Patent No. 8,086,604: a unified search patent
U.S. Patent No. 8,046,721: a slide-to-unlock patent
U.S. Patent No. 8,074,172: a word completion patent*
Apple is requesting that the Samsung Galaxy Nexus be blocked from sale in the United States because it violates these patents. *Should the court find in favor of Apple, a ban against the Galaxy Nexus would be put in effect until the final court decision. *
Could it happen? Certainly. But if it does, it won't go into effect any time soon, it would only affect stores inside the U.S. selling these products, and no jack-booted thugs from Cupertino will come pry your Nexus from your hands. We can't be sure how the courts will act, but all of these are pretty shaky patents, and once again Apple is not going after Google directly -- even though the Galaxy Nexus has a pure vanilla version of Android. *The only certainty here is that the patent system is broken and only serves the company willing to spend the most in the courts.
It's time for Google to step in and put a stop to this bull****. The first patent in question is the same one that was upheld against HTC in a move that shocked the tech community at large, essentially giving Apple the rights to the hyperlink -- something invented over 20 years ago by numerous companies that aren't Apple.
The other three are just as laughable, or would be if not for the fact that Apple was allowed to secure the patents at all.*Every single one of them has existed as prior art long before Apple became relevant, yet a patent was granted each and every time. This is the core of the problem. You can't blame Apple for trying, it's cheaper to litigate away your competition than it is to out-innovate them. *And make no mistake -- that's exactly what's going on here. *Apple wants Android to go away, and a look at any chart that shows market share will tell you why. *It's a ****ty way to get ahead, but it's too easy not to try. It's going to take a tech giant to change the way this all works, and we know nobody can count on Apple or Microsoft to do it, because this is their system, created the way they like it, and making them rich. If Apple is afraid to go after Google, Google needs to go after Apple instead of sitting on their laurels waiting to ride in and save the day at the last minute.
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Watch this video!
"Great artist steal! We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." -Steve Jobs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
Not trying to flame but you guys really should search better. This has been posted several times. Please search!!"
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just yesterday
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492356
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americans, you have over 200 parties, not only republicants and the democrats... so vote for Pirate Party and stop this patent bull****
to be honest, US patent system is hilarious
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I did search first. I turned up results for the "Android General" forum but not the SGN forum. Do you have an opinion on the topic?
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I would have def posted there if I had seen it, I searched using dif key words. However that is irrelevant now. The thread you linked got no attention at all, except for one guy who confused it for the old story that did NOT pertain to the US. Once again I would like to ask, do you have an opinion? Or does your lack or critical thinking always result in a "don't post this" attitude? I would like to discuss and get other peoples opinions please.
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to be honest, US patent system is hilarious
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agreed!! Or rather what Apple does to it is. Did you watch the vid?
It's OK to steal as long as Apple is doing the stealing
Apple's new Slogan.
Apple is quite obviously scared of the SGN. Justifiably so. Unbelievable that they would go after Samsung though since the software is all Google....
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Apple's new Slogan.
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This has always been their slogan, it's not just a new thing.
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agreed!! Or rather what Apple does to it is. Did you watch the vid?
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nope) what vid?)
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The YouTube video in OP at the bottom, the Steve Jobs one..
Here is the link again, not sure how to embed it here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
eh..without watching the full video that clip is taken pretty out of context.
What are the chances of this blowing over and getting solved? Why I ask is that I want this phone but I need to put some money together to buy it since I have to buy it at full price if I want it and I'd hate to see this phone no longer being able to be sold because of stupid ****ing Apple.
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In what context is stealing others work and claiming it as your own okay?
Edit: what about the patent Apple filed recently for a "facial recognition unlock" on their products!? It seams to me Apple is holding up the progress of technology by acquiring their products in court and not in the lab or whatever. They just throw around their weight and money and bully other companies to steal. Jesus Steve Jobs said it himself and you are still trying to defend them.
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What are the chances of this blowing over and getting solved? Why I ask is that I want this phone but I need to put some money together to buy it since I have to buy it at full price if I want it and I'd hate to see this phone no longer being able to be sold because of stupid ****ing Apple.
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Well it was shot down over seas, but here in the US who knows. I would say you will hear about the progress and if it seams you need to buy one quickly you can. And there is always importing in case of a worst case scenario.
What I am most confused about is why is Google not patenting their own work!? I don't get it, they see what Apple is doing yet they seam unwilling to protect their own asses? Are they being wreckless or stupid or..?
Here, from AndroidCentral.. There are links for detailed info about those four patents :
http://www.androidcentral.com/apple-it-again-calling-injunction-against-galaxy-nexus
So, let's discuss those patents. Do you think Apple has a big chance?
Note that the first patent has won them against HTC.
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Here, from AndroidCentral.. There are links for detailed info about those four patents :
http://www.androidcentral.com/apple-it-again-calling-injunction-against-galaxy-nexus
So, let's discuss those patents. Do you think Apple has a big chance?
Note that the first patent has won them against HTC.
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That is the link/ body of text from the OP?. I don't fully understand patents and law but am very interested. The best I can do is state my personal opinions, which I think I have made clear already. I personally think it is a toss up whether Apple has a chance and this is just a way for them to cash in, slow Google and others progress and a way to bully others and steal once again. I think any of the four patents being infringed on should not belong to a apple or any other company either. Let's make progress not slow progress by bickering in court who owns the right to hyperlinks. Amirite?
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... It seams to me Apple is holding up the progress of technology by acquiring their products in court and not in the lab or whatever....
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Apple hasn't come up with much new since the iPhone 2g, they came out with a bang and stopped dead in their tracks. All they're doing now is putting speed bumps in front of all of those whizzing by them.
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Apple hasn't come up with much new since the iPhone 2g, they came out with a bang and stopped dead in their tracks. All they're doing now is putting speed bumps in front of all of those whizzing by them.
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100% agree with that statement and i say it to my brother who has an iphone 4s all the time.
My brother has owned every iphone since they were launched and will defend apple to the end of time.
Apple came out with a great phone to begin with, but have since not really come out with anything completely innovative which has completely changed ios.
Still the same old launcher of icons after icons... same lock screen blah blah blah.
If you look at an origional iphone and then look at an iphone 4s theres not really anything other than the speed improvements that makes you think wow apple has come a long way with the software... ( other than the notifacation bar they added... wonder where they got that idea from ).
Apple need to man up and stop throwing law suits around and come up with some new ideas.
All this does is slow down progress for everybody.
Oh btw... Where do iphones get most of there parts from? Oh thats right... SAMSUNG!!!!
Apple can't sue software, they can only sue the hardware manufacturer. That is why they sued Samsung instead of Google.
Android, and every other touchscreen OS, (besides iOS) you might as well say goodbye to... I HOPE NOT!
Apple now has the power to destroy Android, Windows Phone, and any other iOS Touchscreen Competitor... Steve Jobs wins this round (for now anyways...)
How long before Apple has the PS2 and S3 Pulled?
Check this out:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/apple-aw...ts-the-possible-end-of-android-as-we-know-it/
This could spell the end for Android and this phone, and I will not be a happy camper if I can't upgrade to the S3 because of Apple... I will throw a major tantrum! But they can ban the Galaxy S, Epic Touch, and S3, along with any and all other android manufacturers... The government will fix this hopefully...
Google, act & appeal fast and fix this mess!!!!
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I am not saying this will happen, but is quite possible if the government doesn't block Apple in their tracks from doing so... (I think once Google Appeals, these parents will be made standard for touchscreens...)
Google never loses. End of story, this will not happen.
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yeah, this is a bunch of FUD.
and a very poor ruling by a judge. most of those patents won't hold.
Android is not going anywhere.
With apples iphone sales slowly declining and losing loyal customers, I don't see this being an issue...not just with the phones, I am reading alot of fanboys upset about the new mbp and how everythings soldered down making it near impossible to upgrade or repair....
Apple will fight tooth and nail saying that other companies stealing patents are the reason they are losing business, but they are really doing it to themselves being greedy.
Lol I'll go to a flip phone before I'm FORCED to go to Apple
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I hope this will go away soon!!!
Over dramatic much?
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It's just the basic forms of technological evolution. We've seen what phone such as the Samsung Galaxy S3 brought, they bring so much more than the iPhone 4S or maybe even the rumored "iPhone 5". Like honestly Apple is slowly becoming a monopoly, if anyone knows history Standard Oil was seperated into different oil industries because of actions that were harmful to the consumer/ government/ and other industries. Apple, being a large company, would try to take out any sort of competition that would "try" to honestly throttle their sales of their product. Customers all don't want to be tied down to a single phone. Just like people have different tastes in food, clothing, and other marketed products, they will also continue to have different taste in phones as well. It saddens me because my first phone was an iPhone (1st Gen) (I was 17 at the time) and I was proud to have it. But after seeing other phones that bring better features and finally ended up getting better and more phones that have better use to me. I get disgusted by the fact that Apple is using tactics to obliterate competition. Tactics that will not only hurt the industry such as Samsung, but also the consumer because I am 100% sure that this Android community will want to have iPhones only. So overall Apple....to me is becoming a monopoly, it's just slowly becoming one and won't stop bringing others to court until the iPhone is in everyone's grasp.
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What ever happened with that patent that Palm had for the phone app? It was rumored that if that was ever brought to court all iphones would just become ipods.
The second it gets in my grasp, I'll be throwing into moving traffic...
But Apple is just evil in what they are doing to Android... I really don't like it, and for once I feel bad for Windows Phone...
Remember, there are touchscreen BlackBerrys... If Apple sues RIM, it's over for them...
If I might add, if an iPhone gets in my grasp, it better be a quadcore phone with a 4.8" screen, Gorilla Glass, and Android Key Lime Pie or Kandy Kane running flawlessly with 4G LTE, as if that will ever happen...
I bet money that these patents will be invalidated soon. Why? Because theres no way that the government can allow apple to monopolize the smartphone business. Ill happily stick with my s2/s3 the rest of my life if they dont get invalidated
Id love to see samsung buy all the palm patents from hp that shut apple up real fast
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apple is a lost cause.. epic in the era of steve jobs and now trying to stop the giant that is google to survive.. even if apple wins, there will be millions of android users across the world that would defend google. open source is the future, google will never die.. if anything google will be forced to come out with something even better than a "touchscreen" smartphone.. either way apple is against the ropes and probably losing fast as far as the long run looks.. apple is in the shadow of blackberry, destined to fail
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Google needs to step in and stomp apple
Apple is pathetic.. I say we C4 every Apple building in the US to make a point who's with me?!
Jk lol
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Lol I'll go to a flip phone before I'm FORCED to go to Apple
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Seriously had to put a thanks on this post. If (and honestly I don't see it happening) this ever does happen I'll go buy a flip phone period and say screw you to apple.
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Seriously had to put a thanks on this post. If (and honestly I don't see it happening) this ever does happen I'll go buy a flip phone period and say screw you to apple.
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wow this is a load of bollocks!! I agree lets all go back to flip phones!
Doesn't Google have it's own arsenal of patents it owns from Motorola mobility... as in first cell phone. If Apple doesn't play with Google, they could say "fine... you don't want us to have a touch screen... you don't get to have a cell phone."
Here is the article. I think Apple is going a little over board with the last line of the article.
In its filing, Apple says this list is only "to address a portion of the immediate, ongoing irreparable harm that Apple is suffering."
Ongoing? Irreparable? So I am assuming that Apple thinks everybody that bought a Samsung Galaxy phone thought they were buying the iPhone. I would love to see an estimate as to how many people really thought they were buying an iPhone when none of these phones had "iPhone" "Apple" or the Apple logo on the phone.
Apple targets 8 Samsung phones for sales ban
Might wanna fix the link bro!
But apple is taking it too far and I was reading on Android Central; Samsung looses 12 billion in market value.
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Might wanna fix the link bro!
But apple is taking it too far and I was reading on Android Central; Samsung looses 12 billion in market value.
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I think it's fixed now. But yea. I think Apple is really overdoing it now. And the article states out of 28 devices. So I don't think this is more or less about patents anymore. It's more of Apple wanting to be the only smartphone out there that American people can buy.
they are even suing samsung for making ''rectangular'' phones.
Let them do it. They all are old phones anyway.
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Hahaha Apple is the biggest fu**ing hypocrite ever!!! This is why their products are sh**! & Samsung's are superior! Apple bashes Samsung for copying when they themselves copy everyone else
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I don't necessarily think that apples phones are ****ty. I think they are a good smartphone. Samsung and apple are two very good companies. And apple started by providing a quality phone straight across the board and great customer service. So now Samsung finally caught on to the strategy that was obviously working and decided to do the same in its own way.
Android is the kicker that is scaring apple. Because apple is open source and the open community is doing outstanding things and pushing android past its "boundaries". In return this is what Samsung used to become as important in the smartphone market. We see the same in others. HTC...
So because android and Samsung are such a threat to apple, they decide to sue hoping to destroy Samsung's and slow down the android momentum. But now that Google is involved who happens to be a big bad ass. Apple will ultimately lose or setting to drop charges.
This is definitely a fight that can go both ways. And no doubt we are in to experience and epic dual between Samsung/Google (android in general) and apple.
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I don't necessarily think that apples phones are ****ty. I think they are a good smartphone. Samsung and apple are two very good companies. And apple started by providing a quality phone straight across the board and great customer service. So now Samsung finally caught on to the strategy that was obviously working and decided to do the same in its own way.
Android is the kicker that is scaring apple. Because apple is open source and the open community is doing outstanding things and pushing android past its "boundaries". In return this is what Samsung used to become as important in the smartphone market. We see the same in others. HTC...
So because android and Samsung are such a threat to apple, they decide to sue hoping to destroy Samsung's and slow down the android momentum. But now that Google is involved who happens to be a big bad ass. Apple will ultimately lose or setting to drop charges.
This is definitely a fight that can go both ways. And no doubt we are in to experience and epic dual between Samsung/Google (android in general) and apple.
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Lolol apple will NEVER be open source, Apple's too *****y to do it.
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Apple is definitely taking this a bit too far. Insecurity? Maybe. Though Apple's products so far have been really nice, I find it a little disturbing that a patent for designs can even be issued...that too based on the shape. The monopoly that will (?) follow would not be in favour of the industry nor would it be in favour of the customers.
All old and worthless now.....let em mess with the older ones...
• Galaxy S 4G
• Galaxy S2 AT&T
• Galaxy S2 Skyrocket
• Galaxy S2 T-Mobile
• Galaxy S2 Epic 4G
• Galaxy S Showcase
• Droid Charge
• Galaxy Prevail
Apple is friggin stupid. Talk about monopoly. They tried this crap back in MA Bell days. And look at it today. Keep fighting Samsung, you will win.
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All old and worthless now.....let em mess with the older ones...
• Galaxy S 4G
• Galaxy S2 AT&T
• Galaxy S2 Skyrocket
• Galaxy S2 T-Mobile
• Galaxy S2 Epic 4G
• Galaxy S Showcase
• Droid Charge
• Galaxy Prevail
Apple is friggin stupid. Talk about monopoly. They tried this crap back in MA Bell days. And look at it today. Keep fighting Samsung, you will win.
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Gs2 still sells, this would hurt Samsung as well as carriers
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Gs2 still sells, this would hurt Samsung as well as carriers
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This.
Even though these are no longer premier flagships, the GSII line is still in the upper echelon all things considered.
Though I will admit that the droid charge can be banned from earth as far as that goes.
I am not sure Nazi Apple are targeting Sprints GS2 but I heard rumors that Boost Mobile is going to release that phone for Sprints Prepaid line up.
I was tricked into buying the galaxy s 3 because I thought it was an iPhone
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Though I will admit that the droid charge can be banned from earth as far as that goes.[/QUOTE said:
I would not cry if the prevail was banned as well. A phone with so little usable memory should have never been put on the shelves. Samsung should be taken to court over that phone for stupidity and pay everyone who owned one a full refund...
I was tricked into buying the galaxy s 3 because I thought it was an iPhone
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Just glad our phone isn't on there...
Wow
I've been reading all about this, and I am just APPALLED if I have to pick a word! Apple's mama needs to spank them and put them in time out for acting like a bunch of immature, spoiled, bully brats! These are supposed to be adults, not to mention the smartest on the planet, and their acting like punks! Should Ford sue Chevy for having power windows? Or Guess sue Levi for pockets on the backs of their jeans? Or Nike sue Vans for having shoelaces? (I don't know who made what 1st, but u get it) This is ridiculous! Reminds of the schoolyard bully who wants to beat up that girl because she's prettier! I own both the iPhone and the new SGS3 - had the Vibrant before that, and although they have a similar look with similar features, they are not the same AT ALL, just 2 devices offering consumers variety and companies competition AS IT SHOULD BE! No different than 2 brands of stereos, TVs, washing machines, or anything else. They're just mad because the SGS 3 definitely kicked the iPhone's butt in every way! SO WHAT - Stop cryin, get over it, and go make a better device to compete like everyone else does, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!! Maybe Nintendo WII should sue them for making the XBOX Kinect, or Sony or whoever made the 1st walkman should sue them for making something you can listen to music on that's portable that you plug headphones into! Jeez people, COME ON!!!! I'm getting rid of my Apple devices promptly, and I don't care if Apple makes a device that makes my money, cooks, washes my dishes, and tucks me in at night - I will NEVER buy from them again, just on principle! I refuse to support a bunch bullying spoiled BRATS that are showing my kids the exact behavior that I have always tried to tell them is NEVER OK and will not be tolerated! I still can't believe anyone is condoning this crap! Unbelievable!
People put it to Apple with your wallet. I used to buy all kinds of apple products but stopped two years ago as I do not agree with their business practices. I encourage you to do the same if you feel likewise.
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People put it to Apple with your wallet. I used to buy all kinds of apple products but stopped two years ago as I do not agree with their business practices. I encourage you to do the same if you feel likewise.
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Well put crayzeeteri, well put. Microsoft did it because they had no competition, big bullies back in the day, similar with this Apple crap.
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Well put crayzeeteri, well put. Microsoft did it because they had no competition, big bullies back in the day, similar with this Apple crap.
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Well thank ya! Kinda got a lil wordy, maybe a bit carried away Really won't hurt me at all, I just got a lil heated over the fact that they can get away with it and that our justice system is actually that retarted that they would rule in favor and therefore tell the world this is bs acceptable. On a side note, y'all ever seen the LG Prada?(pic below) It came out long before iPhone....hmmmm....look familiar? Just thought it was funny considering a huge part of their ***** - sorry, "case" was the shape/look. LOL! Now I'd actually LMFAO if LG turned around n sued them! Just to make a point!
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Well thank ya! Kinda got a lil wordy, maybe a bit carried away Really won't hurt me at all, I just got a lil heated over the fact that they can get away with it and that our justice system is actually that retarted that they would rule in favor and therefore tell the world this is bs acceptable. On a side note, y'all ever seen the LG Prada?(pic below) It came out long before iPhone....hmmmm....look familiar? Just thought it was funny considering a huge part of their ***** - sorry, "case" was the shape/look. LOL! Now I'd actually LMFAO if LG turned around n sued them! Just to make a point!
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HEHE I sold my iPad this morning (after reading your post lastnight) to a co-worker here, and agree, I will NEVER buy an apple product again. Got me some spending money, now I am going to buy the wife a Galaxy S3 to. This is her lucky day....
My wife loves my GN2 so much that she has abandoned Apple. Shes been with iphone since the first one. We ordered her Note 2 last night. Another iSheep wakes up
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But in all seriousness, I just changed my wife from a Mac addict to an Android lover. She saw my Note2, but couldn't handle the size. (ba dum bump) But she insisted I get her the SGS3. She's in love. Every damn day now it's "omg! I didn't know it could do this!", "did you know there was an app for that!! and a widget! I <3 widgets!!"
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But in all seriousness, I just changed my wife from a Mac addict to an Android lover. She saw my Note2, but couldn't handle the size. (ba dum bump) But she insisted I get her the SGS3. She's in love. Every damn day now it's "omg! I didn't know it could do this!", "did you know there was an app for that!! and a widget! I <3 widgets!!"
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Too funny. I grabbed her the Tmo slider G1. No data on that or the MTouch 3G. Finally after years, she's on sprint with data. She's so cute how excited she is to have a baller phone AND data service.
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But in all seriousness, I just changed my wife from a Mac addict to an Android lover. She saw my Note2, but couldn't handle the size. (ba dum bump) But she insisted I get her the SGS3. She's in love. Every damn day now it's "omg! I didn't know it could do this!", "did you know there was an app for that!! and a widget! I <3 widgets!!"
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I love these stories. My next upgrade for my wife will be a Samsung just to see if she likes it. She's on iPhone 4.
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I, nor anyone in my family, will EVER use crApple, but my portfolio sure loves the sheep that follow them blindly!
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I, nor anyone in my family, will EVER use crApple, but my portfolio sure loves the sheep that follow them blindly!
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I agree will my daughter's or I ever use a crapple product
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My fiancée wanted an ifail so badly until i told her I wouldn't b seen with her using that thing...lol.. we both sport the note 2 now...hehehe.. now if only she'd let me root it for her so she can see what it can really do!
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My fiancée wanted an ifail so badly until i told her I wouldn't b seen with her using that thing...lol.. we both sport the note 2 now...hehehe.. now if only she'd let me root it for her so she can see what it can really do!
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My wife won't let me near hers. Lol
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My fiancée wanted an ifail so badly until i told her I wouldn't b seen with her using that thing...lol.. we both sport the note 2 now...hehehe.. now if only she'd let me root it for her so she can see what it can really do!
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The funny thing is, that this phone was already a beast without root. I'm not dissing apple cause it's a great phone but my thing is, there are so many more options.
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I had a friend who was Iphone 5 all the way. He even ran his mouth how dumb of a decision it was. untill i bought it and he couldnt keep his hands off.
its interesting to see how attractive the GN2 is once all the people who down it change once the have it in their hands.
OP root it while she sleeps.
My girl has iphone4 and says she has no special loyalty to Apple so I had her play with my note 2 a bit. The size is way too big for her hands, comical really, but that's no problem there are other great phones.
You know what it came down to? Bejeweled Blitz.
She plays that game constantly and there is no equivalent in the android market.
There are several bejeweled clones and one real bejeweled2 from EA, but it turns out they all suck.
The apple version is perfectly responsive. Every time you touch anything it reacts immediately no matter what else is going on elsewhere on the screen at the same time. But on my phone it won't even register trying to swipe new jewels until the explosion animations from the last move are all done playong out. This is on a note2 that's even somewhat debloated because I deleted all the services and junk for weather, stocks, social integration, allshare, sysscope, smart device manager and touchwiz. There can't possibly be a cpu issue. And this was the real game from EA/PopCap not the small indipendents.
I never play any games so I would never have noticed this. But just watching her try to play a simple game on the supposedly highest end badest badassest uber phone was pretty embarassing.
She actually said it's not necessarily a deal breaker but I believe in quality of life. If that's what she likes and Android can't provide it then that's all there is to it. Guess she gets an iphone 5 even though she lives with an Apple hating unix sys admin.
I actually blame Apple more than Android or the game developers. Apple forces developers to choose only one platform to invest their limited resources by blocking use of cross platform tools, and few developers can really afford to support multiple platforms the hard way without cross platform tools.
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There's nothing wrong with Apple products. They cost more and it's a closed box but it if you download something from the App Store, it works. No force close, no lag, nothing to complain about. The tablet apps are actually designed for tablets and for the most part they get updated with every iteration of iOS.
I love my Note and the Galaxy S2, Thunderbolt and Fascinate that came before it but I've never once got pissed off at an iPhone because the lock screen wouldn't come on without lag or the gallery froze the phone. The gallery in MA7 makes me want to punch a baby in the face.
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The gallery in MA7 makes me want to punch a baby in the face.
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Man you got that right. Me too. +1 !
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Actually apps on her phone crash all the time. Depends on the app. We both use a unique app called guidebook. The android version works fine for me on both my ltevo with gb and the note2 with jb, but it crashes constantly on her ip4.
And half of her apps are old because they now require ios5 or later. She's on ios4 so she can't update any of those any more. And she doesn't want to update ios because she has good google maps right now.
The closed nature and vendor lock in and nanny app blocking ultimately causes more problems than it solves. It's ultimately a self-defeating dead end. It's only good for one thing, making a few people money right now. It's bad for both users and developers.
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crookshanks said:
There's nothing wrong with Apple products. They cost more and it's a closed box but it if you download something from the App Store, it works. No force close, no lag, nothing to complain about. The tablet apps are actually designed for tablets and for the most part they get updated with every iteration of iOS.
I love my Note and the Galaxy S2, Thunderbolt and Fascinate that came before it but I've never once got pissed off at an iPhone because the lock screen wouldn't come on without lag or the gallery froze the phone. The gallery in MA7 makes me want to punch a baby in the face.
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Lol apple has force closes they just dont tell their sheep cuz the assume they are dumb enough if a dialog doesn't show they'll just assume they caused the app to disappear . Theres nothing about apple at all appealing. They steal peoples opensource work close it up rush to grab a baseless patent and then sue the original creators into submission, its pathetic and their business practices are akin to that of organized crime, disgusting really.
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Apple v. Android discussions are getting tired. To consider Apple as pure garbage is foolish, and to completely write off Android is just as foolish. Both have their followers for different reasons- who cares?
SComp23 said:
Apple v. Android discussions are getting tired. To consider Apple as pure garbage is foolish, and to completely write off Android is just as foolish. Both have their followers for different reasons- who cares?
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Apples issues have nothing to do with android. Apples issues lie solely on apples shoulders with their crooked business practices. Giving apple your money is no different than giving it to the mob.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Apples issues have nothing to do with android. Apples issues lie solely on apples shoulders with their crooked business practices. Giving apple your money is no different than giving it to the mob.
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Yep that's a solid argument.
Please tell me more about how you only support companies with pure business practices. Or perhaps how you speak out about all crooked business practices, and not only Apple.
I would imagine a thorough review of Google and their business practices may enlighten you- but that wouldn't be fun, would it?
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It's impossible to avoid patronizing companies run by bad people that do bad things.
It's not imossible to try. It only requires you care.
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KEYofR said:
It's impossible to avoid patronizing companies run by bad people that do bad things.
It's not imossible to try. It only requires you care.
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Then quit being hypocritical- acting like using Android makes you a saint vs. Apple is a joke, plain and simple.
The fact of the matter is current patent law in America is disgusting. Can you blame Apple for exploiting what is terrible law? Absolutely not. Same argument a majority of the people are making against the rich and the current tax code.
Fact of the matter is a majority, if not all, people here are making an argument based solely on emotion. To state it in terms more complex than "Android v. Apple" is, at best, false.
Give it a rest.
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Yep that's a solid argument.
Please tell me more about how you only support companies with pure business practices. Or perhaps how you speak out about all crooked business practices, and not only Apple.
I would imagine a thorough review of Google and their business practices may enlighten you- but that wouldn't be fun, would it?
FIGHT THE MAN!
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Well most companies don't buy themselves frivolous patents and then use them to sue their competitors into submission. They usually work harder and pay people who have the skills to put them ahead instead of trying to cheat their way to the top. there's a difference between companies cutting costs by outsourcing work and companies cutting costs by stealing the work.
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