I have found my phone i reported lost to my insurance company. they blocked it, blocked my sim and now have sent me out a new sim im currently using in an old phone. but my new defy will be here tomorrow morning. but it seems a waste to just throw away the old defy. should i phone up my insurance company and tell them? is there anything i can do with it? is it against the law to sell it as Ive had it blocked? i live in the uk by the way.
any opinions are welcome thanks.
also would my new defy that comes have the bootloader locked? how would i find out?
Yes, new defy will have a locked bootloader.
The best you can do with the old one if you dont need it anymore, send it to Quarx or Epsylon or m11kkaa or some other dev. that will put it into good use!
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Little correction: EVERY defy has a locked bootloader. Defy never had the possibility to unlock.
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Little correction: EVERY defy has a locked bootloader. Defy never had the possibility to unlock.
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if it was locked then how was i able to flash sbf? or does that make no difference. as i thought being locked would not allow me to flash sbf. maybe im getting it mixed up. but thank you both for your replies. ive had an offer from someone who would buy it as he can put it to use.
"Locked bootloader" means, that you can't boot custom, unsigned kernels.
SBF-files are official files from moto used to recover/update an phone.
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"Locked bootloader" means, that you can't boot custom, unsigned kernels.
SBF-files are official files from moto used to recover/update an phone.
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Actually, just the boot and recovery partitions are signed in , because we can actually make custom sbf changing the others partitions of the sbf....
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oh right ok, thanks guys. i should have known that really. but when i get my new phone in the morning i should still be able to root it and flash custom roms though right? just like my other one?
defyuk said:
oh right ok, thanks guys. i should have known that really. but when i get my new phone in the morning i should still be able to root it and flash custom roms though right? just like my other one?
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That is correct
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That is correct
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nice thanks! ...hopefully i get a red lense so i can get 720p recording
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That is my question, i see defy have CM7 and that only can be with the bootloader unlocked...
But, why stills installing roms with the recovery? and not with rsdlite?
it hasn't been unlocked yet.
tomeu0000 said:
That is my question, i see defy have CM7 and that only can be with the bootloader unlocked...
But, why stills installing roms with the recovery? and not with rsdlite?
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No bootloader is still locked. The method to run these roms is the 2ndinit
Not unlocked, but kind of bypassed.
And is there a difference in user experience (or phoneresource usage) between an install with open bootloader and this 2nd init method?
Kernel is always the same, but we can do a lot without touching it.
someday it will unlock? they said that it is almost "done"...
Who're they? Is it something sure or another hoax?
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We all wait ( although i got my Defy for a week) for an unlocked Bootloader. But all the Roms in here are ok. Personally, i wait for a better port of Cyanogen... than the device will be "complete".
So the waiting and testing is the only issue.
Is it possible to Root the Dinc 3? If not yet can one reasonably expect a solution anytime soon or has Verizon found a way to cripple this (for me at least) mission critical modification>
Thanks
It hasn't been rooted..im sure if/when it's released, probably q1 or q2 of 2012 someone will end up finding out how to root it.
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hmm didnt know the DInc 3 has been released yet lol
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Is it possible to Root the Dinc 3? If not yet can one reasonably expect a solution anytime soon or has Verizon found a way to cripple this (for me at least) mission critical modification>
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Could I get a link to the Inc3? The Inc 2 just came out...
Oh maybe you meant the Moto Droid 3. wrong forum bud.
HTC announced in May that they will no longer be locking their boot loaders so when and if a dinc 3 does come out it shouldn't be a problem.
pharpe said:
HTC announced in May that they will no longer be locking their boot loaders so when and if a dinc 3 does come out it shouldn't be a problem.
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Rooting has nothing to do with the bootloader. Besides that, OP is completely oblivious to what he's even talking about.
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Rooting has nothing to do with the bootloader. Besides that, OP is completely oblivious to what he's even talking about.
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Exactly what I thought. What is this kid talking about?
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Zalatorisaurus said:
Exactly what I thought. What is this kid talking about?
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Isn't it obvious? He's from the future and letting us know there's a DINC3, and that we should get working on it to get it rooted before it actually comes out! Brilliant! Thank you time-travling man!
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Isn't it obvious? He's from the future and letting us know there's a DINC3, and that we should get working on it to get it rooted before it actually comes out! Brilliant! Thank you time-travling man!
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From the very distant land of 2012? I would place my money on him being psychic rather than from the future that's just crazy talkin.
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carngeX said:
Isn't it obvious? He's from the future and letting us know there's a DINC3, and that we should get working on it to get it rooted before it actually comes out! Brilliant! Thank you time-travling man!
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^ I laughed out loud at work ^
...but isn't the device needed to test various root exploits...?
RMarkwald said:
^ I laughed out loud at work ^
...but isn't the device needed to test various root exploits...?
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Maybe future-man can get us a DINC3 .
carngeX said:
Maybe future-man can get us a DINC3 .
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Well, there's proof right there that the world doesn't end in 2012!!! Thanks future-man!! Send me a Dinc 3 too!!!
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Rooting has nothing to do with the bootloader. Besides that, OP is completely oblivious to what he's even talking about.
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Unlocked bootloader = Root. Once u unlock the bootloader you can put whatever you want onto your phone, i.e. clockwork mod and rooted roms.
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Unlocked bootloader does NOT equal root
I.E Moto phones with locked bootloaders that can be rooted.
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Unlocked bootloader does NOT equal root
I.E Moto phones with locked bootloaders that can be rooted.
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If u unlock the bootloader you can almost guarantee root, because you can flash whatever you want. Therefore unlocked bootloader = root...
You are right though, root does not = unlocked bootloader.
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Unlocked bootloader is so you can put custom recovery and flash images. Root is having su permissions in Android OS.
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Unlocked bootloader is so you can put custom recovery and flash images. Root is having su permissions in Android OS.
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I know this...my point is that getting root after HTC unlocks the bootloader will be as easy as flashing a custom recovery and a rom with su. There shouldn't be any need to find exploits to gain root.
Ex.
Fastboot oem unlock
Flash clockwork from bootloader
Wipe and flash custom Rom of choice.
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Aren't the only devices that can be "fastboot OEM unlock"ed developer devices like the nexus and xoom? I know that other devices that don't have encrypted bootloaders can usually be rooted easily but I thought it was still more of a process than a simple ADB command.
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Aren't the only devices that can be "fastboot OEM unlock"ed developer devices like the nexus and xoom? I know that other devices that don't have encrypted bootloaders can usually be rooted easily but I thought it was still more of a process than a simple ADB command.
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If HTC really allows people to unlock their device, that might be one possible method they use. Personally I think they will try and find someway to permanently mark the bootloaders are unlocked so they can make sure the carriers can void warrenties (Much like the Nexus One had a picture of a lock to show if you unlocked your bootloader). I'm sure everyone read it but here's HTC's latest status update. http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
It'll be interesting to see what they do. Realistically, they could just leak the unlockable bootloaders and the good folks here on xda would take care of the rest..
It would be disappointing to me if they included some sort of warranty voiding measure as I don't see why the warranty wouldn't still apply to the hardware.
ok guys i just picked up a play for att. sucks cause i have tmobile and wont get the 3/4g data. im almost always in wifi spots anyway so no big deal.
anyway i have already called att and got the phone sim unlocked. now if i think i understand this correctly this should be the order to follow. if you guys can confirm and provide latest links i would appreciate greatly.
1. sim unlock (done)
2. unlock bootloader (not yet)
3. root (not yet)
4. load rom (not yet)
correct??? did i miss anything? any preferred method on any of these? please advise.
thanks!!!
First of all, if you bought a xperia PLAY, you should probably post in the xperia PLAY forums.
Second of all, questions go in the Q & A forum.
To answer your question, that's pretty much the right order.
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First of all, if you bought a xperia PLAY, you should probably post in the xperia PLAY forums.
Second of all, questions go in the Q & A forum.
To answer your question, that's pretty much the right order.
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i deserve the flaming. i did edit my post in hopes that a mod would see and put in the right forum for me.
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ok guys i just picked up a play for att. sucks cause i have tmobile and wont get the 3/4g data. im almost always in wifi spots anyway so no big deal.
anyway i have already called att and got the phone sim unlocked. now if i think i understand this correctly this should be the order to follow. if you guys can confirm and provide latest links i would appreciate greatly.
1. sim unlock (done)
2. unlock bootloader (not yet)
3. root (not yet)
4. load rom (not yet)
correct??? did i miss anything? any preferred method on any of these? please advise.
thanks!!!
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yeh, thats right, but you need a recovery after root and before loading rom
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yeh, thats right, but you need a recovery after root and before loading rom
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well somewhere along the line i bricked the phone.
i was able to install clockwork recovery. i then tried to install a rom. and it froze for well over 30 min. so now all i can get to is the se logo. cant boot into recovery on boot up at all. how do you check to see if you have an unlocked bootloader?
any chance of restarting over? loading the stock rom?
flash a generic global world img from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330314
next time take a backup.
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flash a generic global world img from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330314
next time take a backup.
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i flashed an ftf world file and now i just have a black screen. no booting up.
If you have unlocked bootloader since I can't figure it out of your posts, flash another kernel
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If you have unlocked bootloader since I can't figure it out of your posts, flash another kernel
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thats where my problem is i believe. i dont think the bootloader was ever unlocked.
edit: tried rebooting the phone and the flashlight turns on lol but nothing else!
kdm212 said:
thats where my problem is i believe. i dont think the bootloader was ever unlocked.
edit: tried rebooting the phone and the flashlight turns on lol but nothing else!
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Have you tried to use SE PC companion to restore phone to factory state?
From support start update and click repair phone.
That could bring your phone back to life.
Muurahainen said:
Have you tried to use SE PC companion to restore phone to factory state?
From support start update and click repair phone.
That could bring your phone back to life.
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ill give that a shot. im willing to try anything now...
no software available...what about flashing an img file? do i need root or the bootloader unlocked for that? if i dont need those items how do i go about flashing the img?
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ill give that a shot. im willing to try anything now...
no software available...what about flashing an img file? do i need root or the bootloader unlocked for that? if i dont need those items how do i go about flashing the img?
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That repair button didn't work?
For img flash you can use flashtool.
You don't need root or anything to use flashtool on your phone.
Just pick correct .ftf for your phone and flash it to the phone.
Do normal firmwares work on at&t's 4G version?
Maybe that's the problem
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finally!!! got it i was continuing to search everywhere for an answer and i stumbled upon another guy here on the site that had a similar issue. sooo i went to the site he found, xperiagamer.com and got the att firmware. flashed it and bingo im back!
thanks for all the help and suggestions men. this truly is a great site!
i do have some additional questions though. now that im back to square one im pondering trying again OR just rooting so i can remove the bloatware. if i just go the root method what the best way?
thanks!!!
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finally!!! got it i was continuing to search everywhere for an answer and i stumbled upon another guy here on the site that had a similar issue. sooo i went to the site he found, xperiagamer.com and got the att firmware. flashed it and bingo im back!
thanks for all the help and suggestions men. this truly is a great site!
i do have some additional questions though. now that im back to square one im pondering trying again OR just rooting so i can remove the bloatware. if i just go the root method what the best way?
thanks!!!
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If you were rooted before you don't need to re-root unless you purposely unrooted it. IF you aren't rooted anymore superoneclick or the zergrush(however it's spelled) is the easiest. I'm 99% sure you don't have an unlocked bootloader though, so you have very few options. I'd say re-root if you need to and unlock your bootloader so you can flash flash and flash custom roms like crazy
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well somewhere along the line i bricked the phone.
i was able to install clockwork recovery. i then tried to install a rom. and it froze for well over 30 min. so now all i can get to is the se logo. cant boot into recovery on boot up at all. how do you check to see if you have an unlocked bootloader?
any chance of restarting over? loading the stock rom?
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It got bricked because you didn't unlock your bootloader.
1.Root your phone
2.Install Recovery
3.Unlock Bootloader
4.FINALLY!! you install a rom okay?
I was a noob too so it's okay now I'm a higher class noob.try flashing your ftf again.
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It got bricked because you didn't unlock your bootloader.
1.Root your phone
2.Install Recovery
3.Unlock Bootloader
4.FINALLY!! you install a rom okay?
I was a noob too so it's okay now I'm a higher class noob.try flashing your ftf again.
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well i got the phone back up and running. its now rooted again. i was doing some research. if i understand correctly the att version cannot have the bootloader unlocked. can anyone confirm this?
You need to pay Setool credits in order to unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to lose the sin lock as well, so you could have killed two birds with the same stone.
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You need to pay Setool credits in order to unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to lose the sin lock as well, so you could have killed two birds with the same stone.
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ya i just found the website. seems like thats the one everyone is sent to on this site.
im wondering now that im rooted if i can clean this stock rom up enough to use on a daily basis. i mean im using tmobile on the device so sharing internet would only be edge lol. i guess the only thing i really want ics for is that fact that its ics.
open the dial pad and use this code*#*#7378423#*#* . Then go to -> "Service Info" -> "Configuration".
If it says unlock bootloader = no, then you have to use the paid service, if yes, then you can do it for free yourself.
The S4 has a locked bootloader according to Engadget..
If you're hoping to run custom ROMs in place of TouchWiz, you may have to wait for a little while since Samsung has confirmed to us that the bootloader is locked
Why would Samsung start doing this out of the blue? Their devices have always been very easy to root and customize. Seems a little odd that they would do this.
Ok, you could post in the S4 thread itself since it exists as of a little while ago, or you could post in the Off Topic other devices thread since this forum is for the S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884701
wow a locked bootloader; what the !!!! BIG time strike against the phone
HTC One Bootloader is still unlockable
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HTC One Bootloader is still unlockable
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Any HTC bootloader is unlockable. Do you have s-off/nand-unlocked yet? Exactly. Makes flashing roms a PITA.
I know what phone I'm not using my upgrade on now
I love the 90s. Good times.
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I know what phone I'm not using my upgrade on now
I love the 90s. Good times.
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+1
I say to heck with it all and go with a nexus.
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Any HTC bootloader is unlockable. Do you have s-off/nand-unlocked yet? Exactly. Makes flashing roms a PITA.
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Not that I'm a big supporter of HTC or anything, but their newest Bootloader unlock lets you flash kernels via recovery, even with S-On. The only limitations is flashing modified radios without HTC's signature.
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Not that I'm a big supporter of HTC or anything, but their newest Bootloader unlock lets you flash kernels via recovery, even with S-On. The only limitations is flashing modified radios without HTC's signature.
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Really? I know that viper was writing the boot.img differently in his roms because the s-on wouldnt let you do it otherwise
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The S4 has a locked bootloader according to Engadget..
If you're hoping to run custom ROMs in place of TouchWiz, you may have to wait for a little while since Samsung has confirmed to us that the bootloader is locked
Why would Samsung start doing this out of the blue? Their devices have always been very easy to root and customize. Seems a little odd that they would do this.
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What carrier of the S4 they were referring to?
Infected anTPRax
the engadget review was of the T-Mo, but probably all of them will be this way.
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What carrier of the S4 they were referring to?
Infected anTPRax
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Good point.
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the engadget review was of the T-Mo, but probably all of them will be this way.
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In that case, I doubt it. The verizon S3 came with a locked bootloader, whereas the Sprint version did not.
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Good point.
In that case, I doubt it. The verizon S3 came with a locked bootloader, whereas the Sprint version did not.
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That, and another thing, I'm surprised other tech sites didn't report this locked bootloader news after having their time playing with their test units.
Infected anTPRax
I believe THIS is the article the OP is referring to. But as CNexus said, it might not be locked on Sprint. But honestly it doesn't matter to me. I will not be Upgrading to the S4. It really doesn't blow me out of the water with Features, Screen, or anything else. Not to mention eventually most of those new features we will be able to have on our S3's .
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Really? I know that viper was writing the boot.img differently in his roms because the s-on wouldnt let you do it otherwise
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https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/WykbCAAVcrv
This is where I got my information from. Flashing Roms via recovery will be fairly simple on HTC One.
Overstew said:
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/WykbCAAVcrv
This is where I got my information from. Flashing Roms via recovery will be fairly simple on HTC One.
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Ok well, thats not right. On HTC devices (only exception I know of is the EVO 4G), having s-on makes the boot partition unwriteable, except via fastboot and some other hacks
I just got finished helping this guy get his phone booting again. He flashed a rom for the international HTC One and was bootlooping even after flashing another rom. Fastbooting the boot.img fixed him right up.
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Ok well, thats not right. On HTC devices (only exception I know of is the EVO 4G), having s-on makes the boot partition unwriteable, except via fastboot and some other hacks
I just got finished helping this guy get his phone booting again. He flashed a rom for the international HTC One and was bootlooping even after flashing another rom. Fastbooting the boot.img fixed him right up.
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After reading the comments, you're right. I was misinformed.
Want to know what else is or will be locked? This thread..lol
Sad to see sammy start doing this, last years policy was, if a carrier wants a locked bootloader, sammy will give them one....I hope the new policy isn't locked bootloaders come standard.
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Want to know what else is or will be locked? This thread..lol
Sad to see sammy start doing this, last years policy was, if a carrier wants a locked bootloader, sammy will give them one....I hope the new policy isn't locked bootloaders come standard.
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Well for all we know T-mobile wanted the gs4 to have a locked bootloader, and that's why they did it. At least I hope that's why. :/
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Well for all we know T-mobile wanted the gs4 to have a locked bootloader, and that's why they did it. At least I hope that's why. :/
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I hope so as well, but att's s4 is also locked. bad sign
Ok so I'm not asking on how to install a rom or anything like that. It's just that I haven't rooted a phone or installed a different rom in so long that I just don't know what's changed. So I just got a LG G4, and I wanted to install Cyanogenmod just because I like the customization options it had back then and I'm sure it's gotten better now (on that note can you still revert to stock roms on phones?). So here's the thing, I just got the phone today, and it's brand new. Now I'm afraid something might go wrong with the phone (other than bricking which would be my fault) and I want to be able to send it in and get it fixed or replaced. I remember a while back there was something you'd installed that it would reset the counter (flash counter?) so it would seem like it was not rooted. Is that still around or anything like that so technically I'm not voiding my warranty just yet?
Why don't you read the forum a little bit more
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Currently the only you can do on this phone (unless you have tmobile or international) is root as the bootloader is locked. The only possible roms we'd have are stock modded roms that we can flash the system.imgs for.
soulysephiroth said:
Currently the only you can do on this phone (unless you have tmobile or international) is root as the bootloader is locked. The only possible roms we'd have are stock modded roms that we can flash the system.imgs for.
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I do have T-Mobile., so does that mean I can or can't? So if I understood this correctly, stock modded roms can be used to reset the flash counter or do you mean revert it back to unrooted stock or both?
shook187 said:
Why don't you read the forum a little bit more
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Great stuff man, thanks.
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Great stuff man, thanks.
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I thanked you on accident I wish I could unthank you.
But yeah just read up instead of posting about flash counter which is non existing and have never existed on a LG phone.
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