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[Q] Tether thru USB

I have a Q, Im running the CM RC-2 and Wireless Tether isnt working, but if i go into setting->Wireless & Network Setting, on the bottom it says Tethering and Portable Hotspot.
If i Connect via USB and activate it, WILL I GET CHARGED thru Sprint ? Or is like using Wireless Tether program other then its being connected thru USB and not a Wifi Hotspot/Router.
I personally have UNLIMITED DATA for my Evo, I have the Everything Plus Family Plan which has Unlimited Data.
Thanks

If you don't have the $30 hotspot, the native tethering will usually fail.
If you don't have the $30 hotspot and want to tether anyway (usually "free" in that Sprint doesn't do anything about it at this point in time), and if you are rooted, you can use Wired Tether for Root Users or a few other apps, such as the ones for non-rooted users.
If you aren't rooted, your selection narrows to PDA Net, EasyTether, and a few other select choices, often where you're required to install software on the computer you're tethering to and these apps often range between $10-30 for the full version (allowing HTTPS), or free/cheaper for HTTP only.

davidlightle said:
If you don't have the $30 hotspot, the native tethering will usually fail.
If you don't have the $30 hotspot and want to tether anyway (usually "free" in that Sprint doesn't do anything about it at this point in time), and if you are rooted, you can use Wired Tether for Root Users or a few other apps, such as the ones for non-rooted users.
If you aren't rooted, your selection narrows to PDA Net, EasyTether, and a few other select choices, often where you're required to install software on the computer you're tethering to and these apps often range between $10-30 for the full version (allowing HTTPS), or free/cheaper for HTTP only.
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Thanks for the info but that does not really answer my Question. See pics below. If i check one of the boxes, Will i be charged anything ??? Its like a integrated Tether i guess ??

CyanogenMod's tethering (via the Settings>Wireless networks) is 100% free unless Sprint decides to start doing some DPI (Deep Packet Inspection) on all cellular traffic, which is seriously unlikely given that the technology for that is extremely expensive, and Sprint needs to be focusing on rolling out more 4G towers rather than getting special hardware to watch what you're doing online.

drmacinyasha said:
CyanogenMod's tethering (via the Settings>Wireless networks) is 100% free unless Sprint decides to start doing some DPI (Deep Packet Inspection) on all cellular traffic, which is seriously unlikely given that the technology for that is extremely expensive, and Sprint needs to be focusing on rolling out more 4G towers rather than getting special hardware to watch what you're doing online.
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Does that apply to both USB Connected and Hotspot/Router ??
Thanks I appreciate Everyones help and quick answers

[Q] Carrier charges for Internet Sharing??

I am wondering if someone can explain the details around the carrier restrictions for WP7 Wifi tethering (ICS), specifically for at&t. For instance, will at&t be able to see that we are using ICS mobile hotspot feature and charge extra for it? Also, I realize that the XDA users, being the ingenious bunch that you are, were able to hack the feature onto several phones already.
If we didn't hack the feature, how would this all normally work through the carrier? Is the feature unavailable unless you have a tethering plan or does it show up anyway as part of WP7 regardless?
Thanks!

anyone??

This is just an approximation idea how it (can) work(s):
In registry there is option to select through which profile (and thus APN) it connects. So if your carrier would force different APN that is used for hotspot then yes, it is possible. But you just change in registry the APN name (or profile name) and voila, it flows now all through normal, phone, APN.
Plus there is the possibility to sneak the packets and check what sites are being checked (namely windowsupdate.microsoft.com lol).
I am so glad that I live where I live. 3GB FUP (actually 6GB FUP till end of January, we got double FUP as a gift) for $30/month. And it runs upto 880kB/s . (1,5GB file downloaded with avg of 780kB/s, peak 882kB/s).

thanks for the info! Yeah I have no idea why they charge extra for tethering, makes no sense, especially since most carriers got rid of unlimited plans! Anyway, I agree with you, should be able to change the APN to route everything normally.

j_sous said:
thanks for the info! Yeah I have no idea why they charge extra for tethering, makes no sense, especially since most carriers got rid of unlimited plans! Anyway, I agree with you, should be able to change the APN to route everything normally.
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Why? Because they are greedy bastards, that's why. Same internet, same data, same bits, could have used it as part of your normal data allowance but they charge you extra for it. Greed, pure and simple.

With the Focus, when tethering manually though the USB modem setting (google to find details) it goes through the WAP access point, and it shows up under phone data usage on my account (I have an unlimited data plan through my company). However, I tried using the ICS option and a few weeks later I got a text message from AT&T with the classic tethering data plan warning. I have since turned off ICS and have gone back to the USB modem method.
This is actually one of the reasons I don't want to upgrade to a 2nd gen device unless there is a known way to either use the USB modem feature or redirect the ICS through the WAP access point...

Wireless Tether (Sprint finds out?)

Basically how can Sprint find out if your wireless tethering for free. If you're rooted and using the free wireless tether app will going over a certain amount of data a day give them a alert. Thank you.

jnguyen12 said:
Basically how can Sprint find out if your wireless tethering for free. If you're rooted and using the free wireless tether app will going over a certain amount of data a day give them a alert. Thank you.
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No Sprint will not be notified of going over a certain amount of data in a day, nor is there a cap for data usage when using the wireless tether app.

I just checked my 4G usage for this month since I started tethering on Sprint.com and it's at 17GB whereas before it was like 4-5GB. It's partially the tethering but it's also because I've been using the Watch ESPN app a lot this month. Is there any way that Sprint will kick me off? It's all Sprint data and not roaming since it's 4G. Obviously they can tell I'm using a ton of data but has anyone ever been kicked off for using too much data? How much data have other people used?

frankquattrone said:
I just checked my 4G usage for this month since I started tethering on Sprint.com and it's at 17GB whereas before it was like 4-5GB. It's partially the tethering but it's also because I've been using the Watch ESPN app a lot this month. Is there any way that Sprint will kick me off? It's all Sprint data and not roaming since it's 4G. Obviously they can tell I'm using a ton of data but has anyone ever been kicked off for using too much data? How much data have other people used?
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The only way that you are going to get kicked off for using too much data is if you are roaming when you use the data. And even then, more than half of your data usage would have to be while you are roaming. So, if your total monthly data usage is 4 gigs, and 2 1/2 of the gigs are used while roaming then you will most likely get a letter from sprint letting you know that they have terminated your account. This is commonly seen when a 00001 or other hacked PRL is loaded on your phone which causes you to constantly roam. But long answer short, you'll be fine...

jnguyen12 said:
Basically how can Sprint find out if your wireless tethering for free. If you're rooted and using the free wireless tether app will going over a certain amount of data a day give them a alert. Thank you.
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Basically, when you tether you are sending your phones internet through wifi to your computer/device. Sprint only sees that you are using your internet on your phone, not where it is going. When you pay for the "tether service" from Sprint, there is a different way that you hook up to the internet. It is a separate service rather than just sharing your phone's internet connection with your computer/device.

SpecialAgentSicari said:
When you pay for the "tether service" from Sprint, there is a different way that you hook up to the internet. It is a separate service rather than just sharing your phone's internet connection with your computer/device.
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Not exactly true. When you launch the unhacked Sprint Hotspot app it asks the Sprint Server if your phone is authorized to use the app. If you have not subscribed it errors out. The hacked app has the authorization check removed. When the hacked version launches it just shares the phone's internet connection with external devices. Sprint has no way of knowing that the internet traffic is going anywhere beyond the phone.

@ gharlane00,
Well put and agree'd!

gharlane00 said:
Not exactly true. When you launch the unhacked Sprint Hotspot app it asks the Sprint Server if your phone is authorized to use the app. If you have not subscribed it errors out. The hacked app has the authorization check removed. When the hacked version launches it just shares the phone's internet connection with external devices. Sprint has no way of knowing that the internet traffic is going anywhere beyond the phone.
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Also not exactly true.
One thing they can see is the IPs of the pages you are going to, and different browsers make different page requests,like not pulling up the mobile versions of pages. (yes, I know this can be modified to pull up the nonmobile version.)
Not only is the tcp/ip page request header on an Android browser is completely different than say chrome/firefox/etc, but other applications use the same technique, like IM/BT/skype/etc.
If sprint really GAF, they could very easily see that you're tethering, from what I know.
EDIT: As an example, go here, and see what info it reveals.
Code:
Your IP Address / Hostname
Your IP Address: 72.94.***.**
Your Hostname: pool-********.phlapa.east.verizon.net
Browser/Computer Properties
Browser (User-Agent): [B]Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1[/B]
Time and Date: 3:48:11 PM - Saturday, February 04, 2012
Javascript: Enabled
Cookies Enabled: Enabled
Java Enabled: Not Available/Enabled
CPU class/type: [B]OS/CPU Windows NT 6.0[/B]
Screen Width x Height: 1280 x 1024
Screen Color Depth: 24
Window Width: 588 (45.9% of 1280)
Window Height: 353 (34.5% of 1024)
Browser Headers
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Connection: keep-alive
(edited for privacy, of course. )
Then, tether up, try it again, it will still show the same.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but Sprint doesn't know. What another user mentioned above is partially true, they can find out if you are excessively roaming. That will notify them, then they can investigate further and find which websites you're visiting etc. Then they will begin sending you letters.
my 2 cents. :good:

Yes Sprint can tell you tether
Ive been getting a text msg from Sprint, notifying me of doing something that isnt in my plan, they claimed I was "tethering" and setting up a "mobile hotspot" well I was sometimes, and btw I use xbox for LTE, so when they see alot of data being used like that, they will investigate, ive been with sprint for 10 years. That doesnt matter to them as they threatened to cut off my service, so I asked if they had any unlimited tethering/mobile hotspot and all they have is 6gb/month for $50 which is useless. so apparently they said I was going to Weather.com and NOAA website to much lol they couldnt even see that I had an Xbox One on LTE for past 2 months, and then you get an arab or some mexican that can barely speak english that doesnt know anything about phones/mobile development trying to tell you that you are tethering, the person I spoke with literally had to lookup the definition it was pathetic, sprint is going downhill as soon as I find another carrier with unlimited im flying to theyre store.

[Q] WiFi Tether for Root Users

Anyone confirm that WiFi Tether for Root Users works on our handset (or any recommendations for Wi-Fi router) or will T-Mobile still block it?
Would prepaid make a difference? I only plan to use it on rare occasions but so far I'm not using anywhere near my 5GB of 4G unlimited data as I generally have access to fast fiber Wi-Fi..
- Thnx

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Anyone confirm that WiFi Tether for Root Users works on our handset (or any recommendations for Wi-Fi router) or will T-Mobile still block it?
Would prepaid make a difference? I only plan to use it on rare occasions but so far I'm not using anywhere near my 5GB of 4G unlimited data as I generally have access to fast fiber Wi-Fi..
- Thnx
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Use my ROM, you don't have to worry about using a 3rd party app !

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Anyone confirm that WiFi Tether for Root Users works on our handset (or any recommendations for Wi-Fi router) or will T-Mobile still block it?
Would prepaid make a difference? I only plan to use it on rare occasions but so far I'm not using anywhere near my 5GB of 4G unlimited data as I generally have access to fast fiber Wi-Fi..
- Thnx
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I am currently on the T-Mobile unlimited data plan (no paid hotspot add on is even available) and after quite a bit of messing around with my phone this is how I was able to get wifi hotspot working.
1.) Root your phone - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-root-the-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-xda-developer-tv/
2.) Freeze tethering provision using Titanium Backup Pro (available in Play Store)
3.) Download TrevE’s modded wifi tether app for root users http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35476525
4.) Download Hotspot Shield VPN from Play Store
*When tethering to my Asus Transformer, all I need to do is activate the hotspot and it works flawlessly. If you want to tether to your laptop or Xbox 360, you need to active the VPN first, then start the hotspot (if you do not start the VPN first you will be brought to the dreaded T-Mobile upsell page on your PC and your Xbox 360 will not be able to download anything or connect to Xbox Live). The VPN stops T-Mobile from packet sniffing, which is what causes the upsell page to being with.

Thanks JB910, I will try those steps when I get a chance but was planning this easier wireless root method instead since my handset still has the pre T889UVALL4 OTA update Exynos exploit. Also just out of curiosity yesterday I tried Hotspot Shield VPN to run alongside FoxFi which did not work as it still brought the T-Mobile page but I did run a where's my IP & it was a South Korean IP, everyone trusts Hotspot Shield VPN when it's needed (nice to read not in all use cases but still many or most cases)?
I would likely only use it rarely as a backup on PCs-tablets but am now more motivated to root if this proves workable.. - Thnx
JB910 said:
I am currently on the T-Mobile unlimited data plan (no paid hotspot add on is even available) and after quite a bit of messing around with my phone this is how I was able to get wifi hotspot working.
1.) Root your phone - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-root-the-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-xda-developer-tv/
2.) Freeze tethering provision using Titanium Backup Pro (available in Play Store)
3.) Download TrevE’s modded wifi tether app for root users http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35476525
4.) Download Hotspot Shield VPN from Play Store
*When tethering to my Asus Transformer, all I need to do is activate the hotspot and it works flawlessly. If you want to tether to your laptop or Xbox 360, you need to active the VPN first, then start the hotspot (if you do not start the VPN first you will be brought to the dreaded T-Mobile upsell page on your PC and your Xbox 360 will not be able to download anything or connect to Xbox Live). The VPN stops T-Mobile from packet sniffing, which is what causes the upsell page to being with.
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I simply downloaded TreVee mod and changed a few settingswithin the app and it worked fine... Didn't freeze anything or need to download hotspot shield

eurohomie said:
I simply downloaded TreVee mod and changed a few settingswithin the app and it worked fine... Didn't freeze anything or need to download hotspot shield
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You only changed the recommended settings or additional settings & used it to tether wirelessly to a PC or what device (& I have to ask where is that animated GIF from as it looks vaguely familiar..)?:laugh:

SMARTPHONEPC said:
You only changed the recommended settings or additional settings & used it to tether wirelessly to a PC or what device (& I have to ask where is that animated GIF from as it looks vaguely familiar..)?:laugh:
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I think I only changed those recommended settings and I tether to my HP DV7 Laptop... don't have any other device to tether to... and not sure where its from. I saw it and thought it was awesome...

eurohomie said:
I think I only changed those recommended settings and I tether to my HP DV7 Laptop... don't have any other device to tether to... and not sure where its from. I saw it and thought it was awesome...
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Thanks for the screenshots as it seems you had used WifiTether-TrevE_Mod_11_22_2012_driverReload2 (defaults to Wifi Driver Reload 2) - http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390208427046731813 instead of 1. I'll report back if it works for me too when I get the chance.
"There are 2 options in settings with mild enhancements
-Wifi-Driver Reload - Driver reload inside of tether script. Similar to 11/20 version
-Wifi-Driver Reload 2 - Driver reload outside of tether script. Similar to 11/18 version"
BTW I found where your amusing animated GIF is from :laugh::
Kopps (Swedish movie){1:59}
Benny the Cop {9:33}
Benny the cop, compilation eng sub {9:43}
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339230/

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks for the screenshots as it seems you had used WifiTether-TrevE_Mod_11_22_2012_driverReload2 (defaults to Wifi Driver Reload 2) - http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390208427046731813 instead of 1. I'll report back if it works for me too when I get the chance.
"There are 2 options in settings with mild enhancements
-Wifi-Driver Reload - Driver reload inside of tether script. Similar to 11/20 version
-Wifi-Driver Reload 2 - Driver reload outside of tether script. Similar to 11/18 version"
BTW I found where your amusing animated GIF is from :laugh::
Kopps (Swedish movie){1:59}
Benny the Cop {9:33}
Benny the cop, compilation eng sub {9:43}
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339230/
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haha omg thanks so much I've been trying to figure all that out for myself

So with the help from you I was able to get it working as follows:
1) I rooted according to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37188698&postcount=28
2) Installed WifiTether-TrevE_Mod_11_22_2012_driverReload2 (defaults to Wifi Driver Reload 2) - http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390208427046731813 with settings changes as outlined at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35476525 & attached thumbnails at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37109011&postcount=7 . . Once I checked the boxes next to connected authorized clients as shown in last thumbnail (after putting in Wi-Fi passwords on devices) I was able to connect 5 handy devices simultaneously (Cr-48 Chromebook, Windows Notebook, EVO 4G, someone's iPhone & iPad). Interestingly I was able to browse websites on the two notebooks running full speedtests & checking sites for about 10-20 min non-continuously before getting the http://offers.t-mobile.com/tethering/upsell.do?source=redirect which I don't think I can even add to my prepaid plan. At this point I had to run Hotspot Shield VPN to continue browsing with the notebooks at 10% speeds (mobile devices like EVO 4G & iOS devices did not need Hotspot Shield VPN to continue so could I try to changing desktop client settings in Chrome or Firefox to avoid use of Hotspot Shield VPN?? that http://whatismyipaddress.com identified this time as ISP: nLayer Communications Organization: GIGLINX Services: Suspected Network Sharing Device City: Torrance Region:California rather than South Korea when first tested Hotspot Shield VPN or T-Mobile USA when off).
Again I don't plan on abusing this rather using it as a backup on occasion as I usually have access to fast fiber Wi-Fi. Will T-Mobile further make this an issue assuming I don't abuse this on my prepaid account? -Thnx
eurohomie said:
I think I only changed those recommended settings and I tether to my HP DV7 Laptop... don't have any other device to tether to... and not sure where its from. I saw it and thought it was awesome...
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Thanks for the screenshots as it seems you had used WifiTether-TrevE_ Mod_11_22_2012_driverReload2 (defaults to Wifi Driver Reload 2) - http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390208427046731813 instead of 1. I'll report back if it works for me too when I get the chance.
"There are 2 options in settings with mild enhancements
-Wifi-Driver Reload - Driver reload inside of tether script. Similar to 11/20 version
-Wifi-Driver Reload 2 - Driver reload outside of tether script. Similar to 11/18 version"
JB910 said:
I am currently on the T-Mobile unlimited data plan (no paid hotspot add on is even available) and after quite a bit of messing around with my phone this is how I was able to get wifi hotspot working.
1.) Root your phone - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-root-the-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-xda-developer-tv/
2.) Freeze tethering provision using Titanium Backup Pro (available in Play Store)
3.) Download TrevE’s modded wifi tether app for root users http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35476525
4.) Download Hotspot Shield VPN from Play Store
*When tethering to my Asus Transformer, all I need to do is activate the hotspot and it works flawlessly. If you want to tether to your laptop or Xbox 360, you need to active the VPN first, then start the hotspot (if you do not start the VPN first you will be brought to the dreaded T-Mobile upsell page on your PC and your Xbox 360 will not be able to download anything or connect to Xbox Live). The VPN stops T-Mobile from packet sniffing, which is what causes the upsell page to being with.
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Ok, so before I got the dreaded message telling me that tmobile knew i was tethering and made me pay for a new play that included tethering.
Are you guys saying that being rooted, I can change my plan to the unlimited, and even though tethering is not allowed, I can still do it and never worry about going over my 5gb and being throttled?
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Ok, so before I got the dreaded message telling me that tmobile knew i was tethering and made me pay for a new play that included tethering.
Are you guys saying that being rooted, I can change my plan to the unlimited, and even though tethering is not allowed, I can still do it and never worry about going over my 5gb and being throttled?

Michigan Jason said:
Ok, so before I got the dreaded message telling me that tmobile knew i was tethering and made me pay for a new play that included tethering.
Are you guys saying that being rooted, I can change my plan to the unlimited, and even though tethering is not allowed, I can still do it and never worry about going over my 5gb and being throttled?
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Ok, so before I got the dreaded message telling me that tmobile knew i was tethering and made me pay for a new play that included tethering.
Are you guys saying that being rooted, I can change my plan to the unlimited, and even though tethering is not allowed, I can still do it and never worry about going over my 5gb and being throttled?
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if your unlimited why are you worried about the 5GB throttle? your post is confusing... But yes you can tether without T-mobile knowing..

eurohomie said:
if your unlimited why are you worried about the 5GB throttle? your post is confusing... But yes you can tether without T-mobile knowing..
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What I meant was, can I switch to unlimited, and even though they do not offer tethering, do it anyways so I do not have to keep my current 5gb plan that I always go over.

Michigan Jason said:
What I meant was, can I switch to unlimited, and even though they do not offer tethering, do it anyways so I do not have to keep my current 5gb plan that I always go over.
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yeah... many people on here do that...

eurohomie said:
yeah... many people on here do that...
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I thought so, I was just threatened by a tmobile rep that they would catch me lol. I am upgrading my plan to the unlimited now. Is there a simple way to do it?

If you run through a vpn they can't. It encrypts your data so they can't packet sniff.
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Tethering

What tethering apps do you guys use on your note 3?
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EasyTether Pro
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WiFi tether by Fabio. Been using it since he introduced it and he stayed with his app and fixed and guided through any problems I have. One of the best dollar bills I've spent on the android market IMHO
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nighthawk626 said:
WiFi tether by Fabio. Been using it since he introduced it and he stayed with his app and fixed and guided through any problems I have. One of the best dollar bills I've spent on the android market IMHO
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And they always get back to u fast and it works like a charm. best paid for tethering app for note 3 so far. He even gives out beta )
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Are they metered like the stock one?
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Are they metered like the stock one?
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I also vote for Fabios WiFi Tether router, I've had an issue and he kept working through it with me without delay. I usually got a response from him within 30 minutes.
I also run Private Internet Access VPN app on the phone, any device that connects to the hotspot is automatically encrypted through the VPN so Tmo can't tell what kind of traffic it is. I've used 30 gigs a month this way for months without an issue.

ilogik said:
I also vote for Fabios WiFi Tether router, I've had an issue and he kept working through it with me without delay. I usually got a response from him within 30 minutes.
I also run Private Internet Access VPN app on the phone, any device that connects to the hotspot is automatically encrypted through the VPN so Tmo can't tell what kind of traffic it is. I've used 30 gigs a month this way for months without an issue.
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Thanks for the info!
1. Is Private Internet Access (PIA) VPN app free?
I read somewhere about a $35 annual fee, but perhaps that is not needed?
2. So by encrypting the traffic, you're saying T-Mobile does not know whether the traffic is standard data usage (e.g. web browsing on the Note 3 itself) or whether the traffic (data being used) is from running a hotspot on the Note 3 and connecting to it from an external device (laptop, table etc.)?
Just interested in understanding the technology and alternatives better (I have not needed wifi tethering on my Note 3 so far, not even the included 2.5 GB but I enjoy understanding it all either way).

I have 2 methods that I use on my phone.
FIRST THING IS TO CREATE THE EXACT SAME TMOBILE APN EXCEPT CHANGE IT FROM IP6 TO IP4.
TO BE EXACT I JUST CREATE A 2ND APN AND IN THE WAP FIELD I USE "fast.t-mobile.com" I LEAVE ALL OTHER FIRLD BLANK.
When I want to send a MMS I just activate the TMobile Stock APN. When I tether I activate my custom APN.
Now the 1st method I use is using the STOCK TETHERING option.
Activate the Stock APN and Turn On Stock Tethering. "This is IF you have the 2.5GB tethering on your account.After the tethering is activated, on the computer you have to use a custom UA string on your web browser. For me I use "Google Chrome" and I installed the plugin "Ultimate User Agent Switcher" and I use the "Kindle" option. This will allow for full web access and TMobile will think your using a Kindle tablet.
Torrents also work since you have the ip4 APN activated.
My 2nd method is using USB Tethering to my PC with PDANet. Install PDANet on your phone and on the PC. And also have the custom APN activated in network settings. In PDANet Settings, go to HIDE TETHER USAGE VERSION 2. This will allow for FULL web use without the need for changing UA Strings.
With this method, I am also able to share the connection to my LAN port which is hooked to my NetGear Router so i can then ((RESHARE)) the connection again to my XBOX and PS3 and other devices allowing them to just connect to my router as normal.
Those are the 2 methods I use. I have LTE in my area and I do about 4MB/s or 40Mbps on average.
For this current month I have used at least 107GB for the month even though my plan is 2.5GB...
Twitter @FiberOpticsRLD if you have any questions, I rarely check my XDA inbox.

hypersonicx said:
I have 2 methods that I use on my phone.
FIRST THING IS TO CREATE THE EXACT SAME TMOBILE APN EXCEPT CHANGE IT FROM IP6 TO IP4.
TO BE EXACT I JUST CREATE A 2ND APN AND IN THE WAP FIELD I USE "fast.t-mobile.com" I LEAVE ALL OTHER FIRLD BLANK.
When I want to send a MMS I just activate the TMobile Stock APN. When I tether I activate my custom APN.
Now the 1st method I use is using the STOCK TETHERING option.
Activate the Stock APN and Turn On Stock Tethering. "This is IF you have the 2.5GB tethering on your account.After the tethering is activated, on the computer you have to use a custom UA string on your web browser. For me I use "Google Chrome" and I installed the plugin "Ultimate User Agent Switcher" and I use the "Kindle" option. This will allow for full web access and TMobile will think your using a Kindle tablet.
Torrents also work since you have the ip4 APN activated.
My 2nd method is using USB Tethering to my PC with PDANet. Install PDANet on your phone and on the PC. And also have the custom APN activated in network settings. In PDANet Settings, go to HIDE TETHER USAGE VERSION 2. This will allow for FULL web use without the need for changing UA Strings.
With this method, I am also able to share the connection to my LAN port which is hooked to my NetGear Router so i can then ((RESHARE)) the connection again to my XBOX and PS3 and other devices allowing them to just connect to my router as normal.
Those are the 2 methods I use. I have LTE in my area and I do about 4MB/s or 40Mbps on average.
For this current month I have used at least 107GB for the month even though my plan is 2.5GB...
Twitter @FiberOpticsRLD if you have any questions, I rarely check my XDA inbox.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed instructions and info.
I am a noob with Note 3 tethering options since I have not needed it at all (not even the 2.5 GB included), so I appreciate the specifics to help my understanding.
QUESTION re. method 1, "stock tethering, stock APN but UA switcher and custom UA profile (I assume this custom profile is done via UA switcher"?):
Does this method allow streaming on the connected device (laptop or tablet)? I.e. do I just need to go to my web browser to 'activate' the tethering connection?
Or do I need to do USB tethering with PDANet to allow streaming on the device that is tethered to my Note 3?
Thanks again!

njweb said:
Thanks for the info!
1. Is Private Internet Access (PIA) VPN app free?
I read somewhere about a $35 annual fee, but perhaps that is not needed?
2. So by encrypting the traffic, you're saying T-Mobile does not know whether the traffic is standard data usage (e.g. web browsing on the Note 3 itself) or whether the traffic (data being used) is from running a hotspot on the Note 3 and connecting to it from an external device (laptop, table etc.)?
Just interested in understanding the technology and alternatives better (I have not needed wifi tethering on my Note 3 so far, not even the included 2.5 GB but I enjoy understanding it all either way).
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1. PIA service is not free, I got a deal off of slickdeals.net that came to something around $22 a year if I'm not mistaken. But even at $35 I think its worth it. I use it on my home PC and all my mobile devices. I don't need an ISP seeing what I browse
2. Yes, you're correct about T-Mobile not being able to differantiate the traffic. Once I forgot to turn on VPN and after a while I got redirected to their page stating that I've exceeded the allowance. As soon as I engaged VPN I was able to browse right away again.
3. Sure there are free alternatives that might work, but with this solution I know I'm 100% safe not only from exceeding my allowance but also from any other prying eyes

ilogik said:
1. PIA service is not free, I got a deal off of slickdeals.net that came to something around $22 a year if I'm not mistaken. But even at $35 I think its worth it. I use it on my home PC and all my mobile devices. I don't need an ISP seeing what I browse
2. Yes, you're correct about T-Mobile not being able to differantiate the traffic. Once I forgot to turn on VPN and after a while I got redirected to their page stating that I've exceeded the allowance. As soon as I engaged VPN I was able to browse right away again.
3. Sure there are free alternatives that might work, but with this solution I know I'm 100% safe not only from exceeding my allowance but also from any other prying eyes
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Using VPN does work. The problem I had with using a VPN is that you dont get your full 4G or full LTE speed since all your data has to be encrypted to go through the VPN server.
Using the 2 methods I provided you not only get to bypass the 2.5 GB but you all get FULL 4G LTE speeds to your tethered devices.
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njweb said:
Thanks a lot for the detailed instructions and info.
I am a noob with Note 3 tethering options since I have not needed it at all (not even the 2.5 GB included), so I appreciate the specifics to help my understanding.
QUESTION re. method 1, "stock tethering, stock APN but UA switcher and custom UA profile (I assume this custom profile is done via UA switcher"?):
Does this method allow streaming on the connected device (laptop or tablet)? I.e. do I just need to go to my web browser to 'activate' the tethering connection?
Or do I need to do USB tethering with PDANet to allow streaming on the device that is tethered to my Note 3?
Thanks again!
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Streaming on either of my methods work. If you go with the stock wifi tether, you just have to change your APN settings under network opetion on your phone from ip6 to ip4. THis is done by just creating a NEW APN and put in "fast.t-mobile.com" for your APN setting. After that is done, you can tether to other tablets or phones perfectly since those are mobile devices. For computers you have to change the UA String of your browser to a tablet or android device.
If you use the PDA Net method, you dont have to change the UA String, since the program itself has a way of blocking what kind of traffic is going through.

hypersonicx said:
Using VPN does work. The problem I had with using a VPN is that you dont get your full 4G or full LTE speed since all your data has to be encrypted to go through the VPN server.
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Strange, I did speedtests many times, in fact today after I read your post and with VPN on or off I get the exact same transfer speeds. I also have 50Mbps line at home and while on PIA VPN I get full 50Mbps transfer speeds...

ilogik said:
Strange, I did speedtests many times, in fact today after I read your post and with VPN on or off I get the exact same transfer speeds. I also have 50Mbps line at home and while on PIA VPN I get full 50Mbps transfer speeds...
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My tests where done using the Free VPN apps from the play store. Trying to keep costs down as much as possible which is why I use the non VPN methods.

hypersonicx said:
My tests where done using the Free VPN apps from the play store. Trying to keep costs down as much as possible which is why I use the non VPN methods.
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I guess the saying "you get what you pay for" applies in this case

ilogik said:
I guess the saying "you get what you pay for" applies in this case
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Yeah, so long story short, without VPN I still get full web access, and unlimited data.
Sharing the connection to my home Netgear router even extends the connection even further.
Love TMobile Unlimited data.

hypersonicx said:
Yeah, so long story short, without VPN I still get full web access, and unlimited data.
Sharing the connection to my home Netgear router even extends the connection even further.
Love TMobile Unlimited data.
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Could you explain how you share it with your home router? I would also like to do this. Thank you.
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Troy1 said:
Could you explain how you share it with your home router? I would also like to do this. Thank you.
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I use PDANet to Tether my phone via USB.
After that connection is established, depending on your version of windows, run your router to the LAN port on your computer and in NetWork Settings in Windows, set up ICS which is Internet Connection Sharing.
After that, you may have to power cycle the router to pick up the ip address and all that but from there, everything connected to the router will get full web access also. PDANet has a feature in the settings to hide your data traffic similer to using VPN so all data is counted as Phone Data and not Tethering.
At this rate, may be a while before I turn my Comcast back on. LTE also provides low latency and ping numbers.
Only down side I can see if during online games, when the NAT is more complex due to all the routing going on.

hypersonicx said:
I have 2 methods that I use on my phone.
FIRST THING IS TO CREATE THE EXACT SAME TMOBILE APN EXCEPT CHANGE IT FROM IP6 TO IP4.
TO BE EXACT I JUST CREATE A 2ND APN AND IN THE WAP FIELD I USE "fast.t-mobile.com" I LEAVE ALL OTHER FIRLD BLANK.
When I want to send a MMS I just activate the TMobile Stock APN. When I tether I activate my custom APN.
Now the 1st method I use is using the STOCK TETHERING option.
Activate the Stock APN and Turn On Stock Tethering. "This is IF you have the 2.5GB tethering on your account.After the tethering is activated, on the computer you have to use a custom UA string on your web browser. For me I use "Google Chrome" and I installed the plugin "Ultimate User Agent Switcher" and I use the "Kindle" option. This will allow for full web access and TMobile will think your using a Kindle tablet.
Torrents also work since you have the ip4 APN activated.
My 2nd method is using USB Tethering to my PC with PDANet. Install PDANet on your phone and on the PC. And also have the custom APN activated in network settings. In PDANet Settings, go to HIDE TETHER USAGE VERSION 2. This will allow for FULL web use without the need for changing UA Strings.
With this method, I am also able to share the connection to my LAN port which is hooked to my NetGear Router so i can then ((RESHARE)) the connection again to my XBOX and PS3 and other devices allowing them to just connect to my router as normal.
Those are the 2 methods I use. I have LTE in my area and I do about 4MB/s or 40Mbps on average.
For this current month I have used at least 107GB for the month even though my plan is 2.5GB...
Twitter @FiberOpticsRLD if you have any questions, I rarely check my XDA inbox.
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I use my tethering mostly for playing a few online games while I am at work(They really don't expect me to work the WHOLE time do they). It sounds like the second option would work better for me since the first option requires a UA switcher which you can't really for for say World of Warcraft. Is that accurate?

Why wouldn't you use wifi hotspot? Just curious. Weighing my options. Btw, thanks, I'm tethered using pdanet!
hypersonicx said:
I use PDANet to Tether my phone via USB.
After that connection is established, depending on your version of windows, run your router to the LAN port on your computer and in NetWork Settings in Windows, set up ICS which is Internet Connection Sharing.
After that, you may have to power cycle the router to pick up the ip address and all that but from there, everything connected to the router will get full web access also. PDANet has a feature in the settings to hide your data traffic similer to using VPN so all data is counted as Phone Data and not Tethering.
At this rate, may be a while before I turn my Comcast back on. LTE also provides low latency and ping numbers.
Only down side I can see if during online games, when the NAT is more complex due to all the routing going on.
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So I am currently on D Stalker V6 ROM AND Comp standard kernal. I am wifi tether router app. While wifi tethering my phone wont charge when plugex in through usb port or on wall charger even though on status bar it flashes current symbol on and off. The battery keeps discharging. Phone charges fine when not tethering
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