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So is there a way to make my G2 to automatically switch to 2G when the screen is turned off, and then revert back to 3g/hspa+/etc when the screen is turned back on? I'm assuming this would improve battery life right? Or will it make it worse since its constantly switching signals and such?
Thanks for any input guys!
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It's possible if you use CPU tuner wich has profiles specific to 2g speeds. Assuming your rooted of course.
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Juice defender does this job, 2G or no data its up to you whenever your on sleep
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I'm not sure how much of an impact this would have on battery life.
I have not tried it but from my experience, the phone turns from a Sprinter to a Marathon Runner when using 2G versus 3G/H+
I would think that the constant switching of signals would hinder the battery life, but if you leave your phone alone and on sleep regularly then it may help. The screen on my phone is always going on and off from regular use so this isn't really an option for me.
Another thing to consider is that if you have to install a program that does this 'switching' task for you, that program is another process that must always run in the background, draining the battery.
Might just want to give it a shot and see how it is after a few days use, if its worse you can always go back... Just my two cents.
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Juice defender does this job, 2G or no data its up to you whenever your on sleep
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+10000 for Juice Defender. Works like a charm, but as stated above if you're regularly turning the screen on/off back and forth (aka lots of texting or w/e) Juice Defender might not help too much because toggling the data on and off constantly does hurt battery.
Now i should add that Juice Defender doesn't work on Gingerbread yet, and I've had great battery life keeping 3g on all the time.
For those of you unfamiliar, JuiceDefender is a tool which toggles WiFi and Data when the phone is off, and turns on WiFi only when in a location where there's an accessible network. This software more than doubled my battery life on my Bionic, and so it was one of the first things installed on my phone.
I've noticed JuiceDefender has been sucking a fair amount of battery on ICS/GNex (usually 4% in the battery graph), so today, for an experiment, I uninstalled it for the day, and I've noticed that I've gotten better battery life than I ever have with the phone, across a mix of WiFi areas and 3G.
Has anybody else had this experience, or was this just an odd one-off situation? Could there have been a change in ICS which diminishes the need or hurts the usefulness of it?
I've had JuiceDefender off too and for me I seem to get slightly worse battery without JuiceDefender. Without JuiceDefender on I tend to get a steeper battery drain during idle times compared to leaving wifi and 3G on. I think the usefulness of it depends a lot on your usage habit and signal quality as well. I usually get spotty signals so that is probably why JD helps noticeably.
Interestingly though if you take a look at the battery graph in settings, every time JD toggles your data on it seems to force the phone into awake state, but just leaving data on would keep the phone in an idle state most of the time. That's definitely something that is making JD not as good as if should be.
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Honestly I think the only time you get noticeable battery improvements with juice defender is with periods of no use. Which is why it works good for me, on work days that is
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Honestly I think the only time you get noticeable battery improvements with juice defender is with periods of no use. Which is why it works good for me, on work days that is
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Totally agree with this.
That's odd, as for me, the phone is mostly in my pocket all day. Maybe it's because I've got a 15 minute synchronization time for most things?
Day three without JD, still getting twice the battery life that I was getting with it on. Delightful.
I don't like any Kind of app that claims IT saves battery life because it just doesn't work! Fact is that its just another apps that sucks resources out of your phone!
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Going to have to disagree and while there are many variables juicedefender can offer big saves depending on your usage. I have had 1.6x increase as stated in the app and confirmed by the extra hours with the incredible. I am waiting to try it with the GN until I have a idea what battery life is without it. First week is useless anyways with a new device as you check it more often and the OS is still refining the battery meter.
Its all related to how you use your phone. Disabling Wifi, Data, BT and so on automatically, managing autosync saves battery. The app itself sucks almost no battery power - if i can believe my monitoring app (SystemPanel 1.1.1) which i use unfrequently to control app behaviour on my Galaxy S1 (with ICS and before that, on GB). Im taking up this "Old" posting because i have battery issues on ICS - almost half of the lifetime after upgrading from GB. But i think its because im now more playing around with the phone, no app is sucking more power than usual.
I noticed that JD cant control networking (via apn change) anymore, can somebody confirm that? If i turn the display on, my 3G/HSDPA connection is there - under GB it took 3-5 seconds until i had internet connectivity back.
So I switched from the iphone with edge to the Tmo S2 with Jugg 5.0 ROM + Go Launcher. I really appreciate the 4g speed. However, the overall experience is not as smooth as the iphone and the battery life sucks big time. I normally have to constantly plug the phone in whenever I can. It works ok when I'm at work but when I'm out all day my battery won't last more than half a day. It's so bad to the extent that I have to turn off my phone and turn on when I need to call or text so I can keep the phone alive the whole day. I tried Juice Defender but it didn't help my battery at all.
Yesterday I spent a few hours on XDA and I came up with these solution to my battery problem:
+DarkSide Digital Warfare v2.7 ROM (couldn't find 2.5.1 version)
+Flash Synergy Kernel over (supposed to give better battery)
+SetCPU app (auto detection)
+Zeam launcher
So far, it seems to be better on the battery. Is there anything else I could add to make my battery last longer? I need the phone to last at least the whole day without charge. I'm constantly on 4g looking up stocks, reading news, email, google voice, grooveip, facebook, turn by turn navigation, music, netflix, youtube ...
Thanks,
Welcome to Android.
From what it appears, you seem to be a heavy user. The most you can get out of a Android device with heavy usage is 3/4 of a day (14-18hrs) tops.
You have 2 choices, either you travel with the power cord not to far away and plug it when you need it or you invest a whooping 10$ and buy another battery.
There are tricks to keeping your battery healthy but lasting all day as a heavy user will be very difficult.
If this is a new phone it takes a week or so for the battery to settle in a hold a charge well. After a week or so you'll notice your battery is lasting longer. Also make sure that nothing is keeping your phone awake 100%. Some apps don't play nice and cause issues. Welcome to Android.
Note: navigation kills battery fast, when your using it try to plug into a car charger or something.
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There are a lot of things you can do to improve battery.
1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
etc etc.
Those are the main things that I tend to do. I plug my phone in every night before I go to bed as well so I am not sure how long my battery actually lasts. But typically after 16hrs of use I still have 60% battery when I go to bed.
Currently my phone has been on for 7hrs 15mins and I have 87% battery. So you can do the math. I am not as heavy a user as you seem to be, but hope this helps. Peace.
Check out this video it helps show you how to save battery. Enjoy!
Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
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1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
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I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
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Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
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You could run Juggernaut with Faux Kernel and Gideon's battery scripts. Or Telus T989D stock ROM lightly tweaked with same kernel and script. Got good results on those as well. Good luck.
Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,
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Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
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If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
Gideon's scripts are great with Juggs. Underclock it as well like 384-1080 is a great setting. Also let die all the way down and charge all the way up and repeat for a few cycles. And don't stare at your phone every few seconds either lol! Another thing are the notification lighting buttons at the bottom. Drop to 1.5 seconds.
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If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
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I have the extended 3800mah battery. It's insanely fat and makes the phone look hideous. On top of that I really don't feel like the battery lasts all that long at all. It's in my pocket all day at school and by 3:30 I'm at 35%. This thing cost me 65$. Total ripoff. I'd suggest spending 20$ and buying two more regular batteries. See what that does for you all
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A few things you can do on ANY ROM to improve battery life.
*) Decrease screen timeout to the lowest possible setting.
*) Adjust screen brightness to the lowest level you can tolerate.
*) Decrease the backlight key timeout to the lowest setting ( or off if you have the option )
*) Be sure to only have wifi and gps on if you are using them.
Those will help quite a bit in general however, a ROM like Juggs is meant to really take advantage of the power of your device so its probably wise to move to a different one if max battery is your goal. I love Juggs but had to move on to the AOSP stuff. Also, heed the advice above, allow the ROM a few days to "settle" before making a switch or even a judgement of its performance.
Thanks for the replies guys. So my phone lasted for 9hrs today which is a little bit of improvement. I was streaming netflix for half an hr on the train on the way back home so that may have drained the battery. I have just installed JD, will post back how it goes tomorrow.
So the extended battery is a no go eh. I really don't want to lug around a few extra batteries. I want to carry as little as possible. I normally carry my phone and my ipad but now I tend to not use the ipad much now because the S2 screen is pretty gigantic for a phone.
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I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
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I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
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If you read my post above. I'm against the idea lugging around too many things. It's also a hassle to swap the battery and keep them all charged. I may be a heavy user but it's not like I use the phone all the time. I use the phone heavily early in the morning on the way to work and after 5pm on the way home after work. The commute each way is roughly 45 mins. In between the commutes i make a few calls and texts through GV. I don't think i'm that of a really heavy user.
Anyway, it's noon and I'm at 75% with JD on and setCPU to 384-1084mhz which is pretty promising.
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Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
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Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
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Don't you think it is ironic for me to switch from the iphone to the S2 because I couldn't stand the slow 2g Edge connection then have to lower data speed to GSM (2g) just so I can use the S2 long enough?
I think the S2 is one heck of a device but the OS and Apps are not running very efficiently.
I tried the ICS ROM ARKSIDE.UCLE2:: x[BETA07.1] in the last 2 days with setCPU at 384-1026Mhz. I have had great battery life. I got home at 12 am yesterday with a 2% battery. Today it's been 7 hrs on battery and my battery is at 70%. I don't know if it is the ROM, setCPU or a combination of the two but I'm pretty happy with the phone right now. ICS is awesome too.
I highly recommend that solution to anyone having a short battery life problem with their S2.
It is a little ironic since you did bring up the comparison. What I was attempting to do was to bring the phone more into spec of an iphone to get similar battery life. You're probably going to even get better runtimes due to the battery having a much larger capacity and better screen technology. All that superior hardware packed in the t989 is going to need more juice to run.
It's great you're getting good runtimes now. From my personal experience, once I drop down to the single digit percentages, it starts lasting a lot longer per percent. If you wanted to squeeze all you can from the device, those 2000mah aftermarket cells might add another 15~30 minutes.
I've read a lot of posts complaining about battery life, and other posts about users suggesting ways to improve battery life. I've read stuff like, disable LED, haptic feedback, lower volume, lower brightness, LTE turned off, underclocking, turning off sync, live wallpapers, etc, etc. To me a lot of people are crippling their phones. If your battery can last you 10 hours, that's enough because you'll probably be somewhere you can plug in. What's the point of being able to go for 20 hours when you'll probably have the opportunity to charge it before then? It's better to have and enjoy all the features.
Maybe somebody can chime in and give me their point of view.
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I agree. I would never want to sacrifice a feature just to extend the phone's battery life. Instead I use a custom rom that has all the features (and more) and 12 to 18 hours of battery life.
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Part of the issue is a sociological thinking pattern between wanting "more" and needing it. Depending upon the type of lifestyle you live, sometimes, battery life is of dire importance to have if you're constantly migrating around. But I agree, some people who aren't in that sort of disposition go overboard with it.
I just bought a bigger battery :good:
I agree wholeheartedly. If your battery is lasting you through your day (which mine does, and more) then why try to conserve it?
Yea its funny stuff people complain their battery only lasts 20 hrs but yet they want it to be able to do everything a computer can do and more....
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The only conscious effort i made to extend my battery life was to undervolt the CPU a bit, but this was more for the lower temperature advantages with extra battery life being an added bonus. Beyond that i turned off things i dont use like BT, no need having something running that i have no use for. Overall i was happy with the stock battery except for any kind of heavy video or game usage which drains it pretty quick - solution : bigger F'n battery :highfive:
i agree that some people seem a bit obsessive about it. but we shouldn give bad battery life a pass either. hopefully we will see some sort of advancement in batteries to have better battery life while keeping them at a decent size.
i was kinda worried id have horrible battery life with the S3 being that its LTE. my last LTE phone was so bad it would die after 8 hours idle.
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I've read a lot of posts complaining about battery life, and other posts about users suggesting ways to improve battery life. I've read stuff like, disable LED, haptic feedback, lower volume, lower brightness, LTE turned off, underclocking, turning off sync, live wallpapers, etc, etc. To me a lot of people are crippling their phones. If your battery can last you 10 hours, that's enough because you'll probably be somewhere you can plug in. What's the point of being able to go for 20 hours when you'll probably have the opportunity to charge it before then? It's better to have and enjoy all the features.
Maybe somebody can chime in and give me their point of view.
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I keep the brightness to the lowest setting anyway, but I do all of this because I go to school fairly far from my home, and I'd like to be able to play games on my phone without wasting 5% battery every 15 minutes. I haven't switched power saving off since I bought the phone.
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I bought the extended battery because I like playing games from time to time and I don't want tl have to worry about my phone dropping 15% after playing something for 5 minutes. Like someone else said earlier. It really depends on the kind of lifestyle you live. I for one don't mind having the extended battery on my phone but I do miss how light it used to be.
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I bought the extended battery because I like playing games from time to time and I don't want tl have to worry about my phone dropping 15% after playing something for 5 minutes. Like someone else said earlier. It really depends on the kind of lifestyle you live. I for one don't mind having the extended battery on my phone but I do miss how light it used to be.
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How heavy is it? Does it fit in a case?
For me, and I want as much battery life as possible to avoid those situations where there is no way to charge you phone even if that only happens 1 a month or less.. As a parent I can't just let my phone die on me... I always need enough to be able to take or make that important calls/text. My goal is to have at least 20-30 hours of battery life per charge.
I think the only major feature I've given up is live wall paper. Other then that, it is just disabling other unused apps like gtalk, talkback, Google bookmarked sync. As well I've uv my phone as much as I can and run a 1350 max clock speed. I really don't see any major dip in performance as long as you do it right . I do use Tasker to disable syncing globally when the screen is off and make sure it automatically disable bluetooth after 10 mins once it disconnect. Also I have the Y5 app to automatically toggle wifi based off my network location. The most useful battery saver I've found is to set my wifi to only connect when the screen is on. Seems kind of backwards but it works well when very little data is process during idle rather the the phone requiring to keep a constant connection to wifi.
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I'm also one of those people that closes an app as soon as I'm done with it. Use an app, press the home button, release and hold home, swipe the app away, sigh in relief. An old habit carried from my S2 Skyrocket, where getting 8 hours on stock was above average.
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I'm also one of those people that closes an app as soon as I'm done with it. Use an app, press the home button, release and hold home, swipe the app away, sigh in relief. An old habit carried from my S2 Skyrocket, where getting 8 hours on stock was above average.
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I know that feel, I was on an LG nitro HD.
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I have my screen brightness at 40-50 auto off.. i cant imagine turning it all the way down like alot of people say.. even when auto brightness is on it look very dull and dark at night to me.. Same thing for my tv with auto brightness.. but i still get good battery life. I am fully charged at about 6pm i use it till bedtime and use it for my alarm.. get up 4 am and when i get home at 2pm its still over 40%.. only thing i do is close all my running apps by holding home button a few times a day and same with ram
I work in an office so it's plugged in for the 2 hours before I leave so I have everything on full most of the day (brightness, lte...). Also, by undervolting I'm getting 30% more battery.
I think tips on increasing battery life like turning off lte and brightness are for people who can't plug in throughout the day or for emergency situations when you want to get the most out of your phone because there's some reason you can't charge.
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I get anywhere from 12 - 23 hours depending on whether I'm at work or off. I can live with that...but there are situations where being unreachable poses a problem.
So, to deal with my phone addiction, I got an original replacement battery. Always have it charged and on me. When the phone shuts down, pop in the replacement and your done. About a minute without a phone. This way I don't have to UV, worry about brightness, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc...
I can't deal with the bulk of an extended battery.
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I work in an office so it's plugged in for the 2 hours before I leave so I have everything on full most of the day (brightness, lte...). Also, by undervolting I'm getting 30% more battery.
I think tips on increasing battery life like turning off lte and brightness are for people who can't plug in throughout the day or for emergency situations when you want to get the most out of your phone because there's some reason you can't charge.
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30% more battery by simply undervolting? I think that's quite an overstretched statement. How is that even possible?
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30% more battery by simply undervolting? I think that's quite an overstretched statement. How is that even possible?
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Its not possible. Not by solely UVing. The sole purpose of undervolting is so that your phone dosent overheat when running high clock speeds. Saving battery is just a perk. You might save a few percent with the undervolt but nowhere around 30%. But don't take my word for it.....
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What is the best battery setting using jedi knight 5 my battery drains fast about 10% within a hr. And I'm using the jedi kernel
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I'm by no means an expert, but I've tried several several jedi-sith roms (DarthStalker,Sith,Jedi Knight) with different configurations just for battery life. I had miserable luck with 4.0.4 roms getting about 8-10% an hour drain no matter what I did. However I always flash back to Jedi Mind Trick. I'm using X1 now. I use the faux kernel that comes with it and usually switch from Touchwiz to Nova Prime launcher (partly because I think its the best and partly because I paid for prime). I also use llama to switch my data and wifi whenever I turn my screen off. Overall, going from stock to this setup, my battery life has almost doubled. Hope this helps
I installed 2X battery, and I can get 2 full days out of my battery now.
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I'm by no means an expert, but I've tried several several jedi-sith roms (DarthStalker,Sith,Jedi Knight) with different configurations just for battery life. I had miserable luck with 4.0.4 roms getting about 8-10% an hour drain no matter what I did. However I always flash back to Jedi Mind Trick. I'm using X1 now. I use the faux kernel that comes with it and usually switch from Touchwiz to Nova Prime launcher (partly because I think its the best and partly because I paid for prime). I also use llama to switch my data and wifi whenever I turn my screen off. Overall, going from stock to this setup, my battery life has almost doubled. Hope this helps
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uhhh, if you look at the graph closely, you can see that your phone was charged. stop posting useless pics.
CAUGHT ANOTHER ONE!
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uhhh, if you look at the graph closely, you can see that your phone was charged. stop posting useless pics.
CAUGHT ANOTHER ONE!
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dude I was just trying to give some friendly advice. I had it charging while in the truck running Waze on the way home from work. I just took a screen shot to at that moment. I didn't feel like waiting another day for another screen shot. I didn't mean to mislead in any way. I was just trying to pay a compliment to the developer of JMT. You don't have be a d*** hole about it. I didn't use hte GPS today, but I was listening to music almost all day at work, and no I didn't charge it.