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Would S Beam be possible on Galaxy Nexus?

So with the release of the Galaxy S III comes what Google should have had when they included NFC into its Android OS. IMO, one of the best features of the new SIII is the S Beam (enhanced NFC technology enabling transfer of files with Wi-Fi Direct from what i understand). Now i see the G Nex has wi-fi direct in its settings. Would this be something that can be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus?

Isn't Android Beam the same thing, which is included in Android 4.x.x
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It is except for sending large files over wifi direct.

Read up on Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 specs. Samsung branded tech that is already established.
let it be.

All that S Beam is doing is using NFC to initiate the communication by sending MAC and IP address details, and then the phones create an ad-hoc wifi network to transfer the files. Wifi Direct is already built into Android 4.0, Samsung just made some fancy scripts to initiate it through NFC.
The real challenge with something like this is integrating hooks or plugins that add support for all the various data and file types you want to be able to send over Wifi Direct. A lot of apps don't have an action set for when you're trying to use Android Beam, such as the Gallery app or your favorite file manager, and this is because Android Beam doesn't yet initiate a Wifi Direct session like what S Beam does.
The quick and dirty solution to this is to write an app that imitates S Beam without needing Touchwiz, and just add it as another "Share" option when you're viewing files stored on your device. It's an extra step for the user since it's not going to hook into the app automatically, but it will integrate nicely with any app that has the built in sharing function. For instance, this means when you're viewing something in the Gallery nothing is going to happen automatically when you hold up your phone to someone else's, but once you hit the Share button you'll get the option to send it over Wifi Direct.

@rbiter said:
Read up on Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 specs. Samsung branded tech that is already established.
let it be.
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with this tech thats established, am i able to tap phones together to share files? If so that'd be great!! i was hoping for exact replication of what S Beam provides. Ease of Use - tap the phones together and instantly share files. If i have to swipe down to activate bluetooth and then choose what file i want to send, its not as intuitive as tapping two phones together.

All um saying is the tech is already there and Samsung put an s on it. It needs to be implemented of course. By app, os or whatever. And our phones have 4.0 but only 3.0 is on spec sheet.
let it be.

I remember when the Nexus first came out people were suggesting the same exact solution for sending large files, but no one seemed really interested in it (probably because NFC-enabled phones aren't very widespread). Good to see Samsung has led the way in this and hopefully Google will put the feature in AOSP at some point.
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The tech is there. Bluetooth by itself isn't very efficient for larger files or greater than across small room distance. Nfc is just for links and small images really. I did transfer a few gigs in a reasonable time using astro Bluetooth. I don't know for sure if anything is actually using the wifi part when bt 3/4.0 is lacking. I am guessing that Samsung is putting it out there now. Google needs to step up the game with nfc, wallet and bt 3/4.0. USB mass storage would be a lot less of an issue for more people. But so would having more storage on the phone also.
let it be.

S Beam and Android Beam is the same thing,,,,, Anybody thought about S Voice? It would be groundbreaking if anybody could port it

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All um saying is the tech is already there and Samsung put an s on it. It needs to be implemented of course. By app, os or whatever. And our phones have 4.0 but only 3.0 is on spec sheet.
let it be.
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What do you mean we have 4 but only 3 in the specsheetq?

Basically Samsung pulled an apple by "inventing"something new
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Chad_Petree said:
What do you mean we have 4 but only 3 in the specsheetq?
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Bluetooth.
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wifi direct on gnex
So, the only problem is that the nexus doesn't have the software to s beam, BUT it has the hardware. I've tried every ROM imaginable for my Nexus and the s3 touchwiz5. Bluetooth seems like it would take the fun out of beaming.

mcreokhan said:
S Beam and Android Beam is the same thing,,,,, Anybody thought about S Voice? It would be groundbreaking if anybody could port it
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This is not true. S Beam is an "enhanced" version of Android Beam. Android Beam is intended to share very little files... like contacts file... for example you can't share an image!

hybrid2102 said:
This is not true. S Beam is an "enhanced" version of Android Beam. Android Beam is intended to share very little files... like contacts file... for example you can't share an image!
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S beam is very possible with the nexus. Google needs to flip the switch on the bt 4.0 we have in our hardware.
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S beam is very possible with the nexus. Google needs to flip the switch on the bt 4.0 we have in our hardware.
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Why do you keep talking about bluetooth? S Beam uses wifi-direct. I'm pretty sure wifi direct is faster than bluetooth I could be mistaken though. I hope this soon becomes a reality!
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Miikhail said:
Why do you keep talking about bluetooth? S Beam uses wifi-direct. I'm pretty sure wifi direct is faster than bluetooth I could be mistaken though. I hope this soon becomes a reality!
(sent from my SGS3)
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Still havent read up on 4.0 specs?
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Still havent read up on 4.0 specs?
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What's your point? Bluetooth 4.0 and Wifi-Direct are not the same thing.

saltmine said:
What's your point? Bluetooth 4.0 and Wifi-Direct are not the same thing.
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Wooooow.
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Siri eat your heart out

Since Jelly Bean is only out on GN I figured this would be the appropriate place to put this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHkhp6BwnGo

I know this has already been discussed in other JB threads and voice actions are somewhat gimmicky but that is really cool. Impressed by the sports and local stuff.
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This is only available on jelly bean? It wouldny work for paranoid android rom at all?
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Love this new voice stuffs. Killing all my friends on their "fancy" iPhone4S'.

Great video! I have been super impressed with the voice features in JB.
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Just got word that Samsung and Google are working together to push out the OTA update to REMOVE this function to get around the apple dispute
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/galaxy-nexus-not-available-in-play-store.html 3rd paragraph

Mine already isn't working like it used too
If I ask for the weather it does a Google search ... anything I ask or say it does a Google search

Screwhead24 said:
Just got word that Samsung and Google are working together to push out the OTA update to REMOVE this function to get around the apple dispute
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I'm not sure if Google Now is what they will remove. Besides, this is only a temporary workaround just to be able to sell phones again. If they can dismiss and prove Apple wrong they will put the feature back and also get about 95 million from Apple which had to put this much in bond to be able to mitigate.
Apple is so scared of competition they will try to do whatever it takes to eliminate it. Since Google Now is light years from that dumb Siri, it really shows how little resources Apple has compared to Google. After all, we all know none of Apple's engineers can think alike... they all "think different"

Probably the quick fix for now to work around the injunction. Hopefully a '#boycotapple=true' flag needing to be set to re-enable.

Jyveafk said:
Probably the quick fix for now to work around the injunction. Hopefully a '#boycotapple=true' flag needing to be set to re-enable.
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Lol. Nice.

They are changing the search so for example if I type pulse in the search bar I get a preview of what's available. If I have pulse installed I can launch the app right there. Its a universal search that apple is up on arms about . The OTA will just show online results and not the app installed on the device. This was what was filed in April, there are no lawsuits yet on the Google now features. But you can count on apple finding something that relates to one of their rephrased patents that already exist
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The only thing I use unified search for:
1.) Google Searches
2.) Looking up artist/song name to automatically start playing (which could be done in 1-2 extra clicks anyway).

If you're lucky enough to have JellyBean on your GNex, check out this app

I was just watching the Google IO Keynote live stream (I know, everyone's ideal way to spend a nice afternoon), and I saw this company that was getting featured by Android called Ekata Systems who launched their app Tapestry at the show. It seems to be a synchronized slideshow between JB devices with some snazzy twists that I've never seen any app do. It works best when you're trying it with a friend/family member so there are at least two devices (phone and/or tablet) to highlight the features though. You can check out the interview here, and the app here.
Talk about bleeding edge...only available on Jelly Bean. It uses this new feature called WiFi Direct that creates a local P2P network between 1:N clients. I'm playing with it with my co-workers and it is pretty sweet.

Is it for sure only for JB? The image in the app info shows a GSII and a Droid RAZR.
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You've got a good eye! Since I have a JB Galaxy Nexus and an N7, I can see the app in Google Play. But my friends who run an older distribution, can't even search for the app in the app store. As far as I know it only runs on JB.

whatisreal7 said:
You've got a good eye! Since I have a JB Galaxy Nexus and an N7, I can see the app in Google Play. But my friends who run an older distribution, can't even search for the app in the app store. As far as I know it only runs on JB.
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ewwwww, you said app store

nonione said:
ewwwww, you said app store
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Thanks that made me laugh!

I tried the app w/ my wife, who has a GNex running JB, and I have a brand spank'n new N7. It was awesome seeing the phone control a slideshow on the bigger screen of the N7, and we were scrolling through her pictures. It is almost like a mobile power point slideshow. There is a nifty feature we discovered, where if you do a swipe gesture on the viewing device, the image downloads directly to the device...which is weird because my N7 was not connected to WiFi at the time. Anyone know how it could've gotten the file without being connected to a WiFi AP? I heard something about WiFi Director but don't know what that is.

I did a quick search, and WiFi Direct is essentially a P2P protocol over WiFi. It doesn't required a live WiFi AP connection, so it works pretty much anywhere. I don't think I've seen any app use WiFi Direct, so thought it was pretty neat.

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I tried the app w/ my wife, who has a GNex running JB, and I have a brand spank'n new N7. It was awesome seeing the phone control a slideshow on the bigger screen of the N7, and we were scrolling through her pictures. It is almost like a mobile power point slideshow. There is a nifty feature we discovered, where if you do a swipe gesture on the viewing device, the image downloads directly to the device...which is weird because my N7 was not connected to WiFi at the time. Anyone know how it could've gotten the file without being connected to a WiFi AP? I heard something about WiFi Director but don't know what that is.
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It's either WiFi direct or NFC

Not to squash innovation but doesnt Instagram already kinda suit the need? I clearly see the differences but I think its splitting hairs in the solution dept. New App, less community, faster death. Unless its truly compelling.

raerae28 said:
Not to squash innovation but doesnt Instagram already kinda suit the need? I clearly see the differences but I think its splitting hairs in the solution dept. New App, less community, faster death. Unless its truly compelling.
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Less community....watching the guy talk about it in his Google IO video...I think that is almost the point. It is not to go wide and online and asynchronous....but closer and more intimate and more synchronous. A completely different approach to the experience of photo sharing.

Wifi direct been available since ICS.

slayr76 said:
Wifi direct been available since ICS.
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But with no settings...
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Dude I was watching All About Android #69 last night, and guess who they did an exclusive feature on? @ ~10:45

That's one of the cool features of galaxy s3, share shot, was wondering when it will be out for all, and here it is.

Is this feature not available on the Nexus S? I tried the app, but it didn't seem to work. It does seem to work on my wife's Galaxy Nexus, but without a second device, it's hard to actually test/enjoy it.

Crittias said:
Is this feature not available on the Nexus S? I tried the app, but it didn't seem to work. It does seem to work on my wife's Galaxy Nexus, but without a second device, it's hard to actually test/enjoy it.
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Yeah, sounds like from the feedback of another member that the Nexus S, although running JB, doesn't support WiFi Direct so it may not work. Pretty sweet when you get it going though. Time to buy a Nexus 7 so you can hook up with your wife's GNex!

My sister-in-law got the JB update on her Sprint GNex phone and is trying out the app and having problems. Anyone else try downloading/using the app and have a Spring GNex w/ JB? Kindly advise if you're having problems using the app.

Crittias said:
Is this feature not available on the Nexus S? I tried the app, but it didn't seem to work. It does seem to work on my wife's Galaxy Nexus, but without a second device, it's hard to actually test/enjoy it.
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Crittias. I just got an auto-update notice a few days ago that Tapestry has updated, and supposed it supports all the way back to Gingerbread. Sharp move, since not everyone is going to have JellyBean devices, so with Gingerbread, 85%+ of Android users can finally use the app. Should come in handy this holiday season when using the app, since nobody else in my entire family has JellyBean. Cromagnons! =)

Will Google Voice search have full app launch and everything like s voice?

I saw a demo online comparing s voice to google voice search, and of coarse for 95% of the things google won no contest, but I was surprised that s voice could say update twitter and give a message and work, where google could not do this at all yet. Just wondering if they are planning on it being able to do basically everything the other can but better?

You mean Google Now? I believe it comes with every phone/tablet that has JB. If we get JB on the S3 then we will get Google Now, unless they disable it so we become stuck with garbage S Voice.

ComradeNF said:
You mean Google Now? I believe it comes with every phone/tablet that has JB. If we get JB on the S3 then we will get Google Now, unless they disable it so we become stuck with garbage S Voice.
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We already have google now on the s3. Works rather well
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jasvncnt1 said:
We already have google now on the s3. Works rather well
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I think OP is referring to have more control with Google Now like specific app or hardware controls.

melonbar123 said:
I think OP is referring to have more control with Google Now like specific app or hardware controls.
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Yes this is what I meant. Again if you look online for demos one of them shows that it works well, but still does not have full control or access to all apps and such, it literally gives an error that the feature is not working yet. I can only assume since it gives that actual error that they are planning on it having this ability soon, which makes since.

wiz4769 said:
Yes this is what I meant. Again if you look online for demos one of them shows that it works well, but still does not have full control or access to all apps and such, it literally gives an error that the feature is not working yet. I can only assume since it gives that actual error that they are planning on it having this ability soon, which makes since.
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That feature doesn't appear to be available on any phone just yet, it just brings up a google search.

I dunno, I tried Google now and really didn't find it all that great. I couldn't launch apps or dictate what I want done on the app. s voice has been pretty solid for me.
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Judging from the recent i9300 international JB leak, it looks like we will have access to both S-Voice and Google Now. So for those who prefer one over the other, it looks like SGS3 users will be able to use either which is good news. I was hoping that Samsung wouldn't remove Google Now from the JB rom when it comes out and so far looks good

I kinda hope they just put the ability to control apps in Google Now, I would not want to have to swap from one to the other just to ask a question, then swap to the other to launch an app. Might as well just launch it manually if your gonna have to do that each time. S Voice is only better for this one thing, ask it anything that requires it to look on the web for the answer and its slow as hell, Google Now is the best for this now, better than siri, so add in the app control and its the king.

I hope with the official JB release coming out soon we will find out for certain if Google Now will have full app controls like s voice.

S voice six because its developed by vlingo who IMO was the worst assistant app... I have the note with paranoid android 4.1.1 and Google now is awesome..until someone ports it to your device I recommend assistant from the Google play market
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NFC beam?

Can Samsung phones beam things to other phones? Whenever I've tried to beam a video from a SGS3 to my phone it never works. However I can beam things to it. Is there a size limit using NFC or is it due to Samsung having S beam and me having android beam.
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I've beamed and been beamed from a Nexus 4, so yes

From my gs3 to a EVO lte
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Thanks I'll try sending a smaller file tomorrow. I'm usually sending HD videos for projects so that could be the issue
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Ive been having the most ridiculous time trying to beam things just from one gs3 to another.
Im on an AOSP rom and my friend is on stock, every time I try to beam even the smallest of pictures, im talkin 80kb in size, i am greeted with an error that says something along the lines of "large file sizes not supported"
anyone know what thats about? pretty damn inconvenient.

You guys do realize nfc beaming and Sbeam are different things? If the person with the S3 has Sbeam turned on and you don't have an s3 it will have issues. When transferring from s3 to like let's say Gnex the s3 must have Sbeam turned off and only nfc transfer turned on.
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I dont know what your getting at. We both have S3s, thats why this shouldnt be a problem.
im starting to think that the NFC functions included in my rom of choice are just total bs. You cant really turn off Sbeam and keep NFC (from stock) can you?
the fact that they are two totally different things and cant get along even tho they provide the same function infuriates me to no end. Guess ill just stick with bluetooth transfers, I feel like im stuck back on my samsung epic.

My comments where directed more at the OP who is trying to transfer between two different devices using nfc.
I have 2 S3 at home both running custom roms I have no issue transferring files, contacts, pictures, videos, you tube, Web pages from one to the other. Maybe you should post the question in the thread of the Rom you are using. Maybe others have similar results as you or don't but I think that's where you should begin. Your Sig says your a Sprint technician you should know exactly how it all works and if it doesn't it has to be an issue with the Rom. AOSP most likely none of the TW add ons like Sbeam will work, just my observation.
And yes you can turn Sbeam off and still use the nfc transfer function.
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I can turn NFC (not s-beam) and transfer with my friends nexus 7 just fine. Yes, you can "android beam" to other phones/devices with NFC capability.
Just make sure, of it isn't a Samsung device that has the s-beam feature, only turn on NFC.
If it is a Samsung device with s-beam, then turn on both.
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