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I have been searching for days now and I keep getting thigns confused with the other epic 4g touch (stupid effing retards, who decided on that naming) and its driving me crazy
I have the old epic 4g with the slide out keyboard
I have 2.2 ec05 I think, its midnightrom 5.5 ext4
I want to update to stock 2.3 as I think its available (or is that the other epic 4g again?) and then go about picking a new rom to use
I cant remember if I have to convert back to rfs before using odin, or can I just get a 2.3 stock ext4 rom with cwm or bonsai whatever is used now
I have been away from the forums for a few months and I am way behind - like I said I spent like 2-3 days so far searching and reading all sorts of crap that wasnt helpful or got me confused so I am coming here for help
what do I do first?
Sounds like you should be able to flash the new CWM 5.0.2.7 which can be found in the Roll up sticky in the top of Development and then flash an EL30 or FC09 ROM. You will also have to look into whether you want to switch to MTD (non samsung partition gives you more app space) or stick to BML. You may want to try Sleeper which detects your file system and keeps it. CleanGB and The People's ROM are good choices too. Or you may want to brave new frontiers altogether and choose an AOSP ROM based on ICS like CM9 or AOKP. You might want to take it slow and just update to a Touchwiz ROM for now. The People's ROM is very Bonsai-ish.
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kennyglass123 said:
Sounds like you should be able to flash the new CWM 5.0.2.7 which can be found in the Roll up sticky in the top of Development and then flash an EL30 or FC09 ROM. You will also have to look into whether you want to switch to MTD (non samsung partition gives you more app space) or stick to BML. You may want to try Sleeper which detects your file system and keeps it. CleanGB and The People's ROM are good choices too. Or you may want to brave new frontiers altogether and choose an AOSP ROM based on ICS like CM9 or AOKP. You might want to take it slow and just update to a Touchwiz ROM for now. The People's ROM is very Bonsai-ish.
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first is odin still used, I dont see much mentioning it anymore other then for CWM - some roms were odin files that did everything for you all at once
I think I have CWM on there also but at the time I needed bonsai (I think thats the name) to flash the midnightrom 5.5 so I installed that, if I can have both at the same time then I have both, if not then can I just install CWM5 the normal way or do I have to go back to stock first
probably going to do the CM9 rom I am using midnightrom and it was one of the best when it was new but the developer has sick kids and cant really keep up which makes sense so I want a new one and I dont want unstable roms - so most of what I have read has said that CM9 is really good and its ICS so thats cool I am still on 2.2 now
I dont need to backup anything other then sms which I have already so thats no problem all the apps I will just reinstall anyways and google backups my contacts
I really dont care if I start from scratch and I would prefer to wipe everything and start over because in the past with roms on other phones and this one updating wasnt as good as a new install so I will probably go that route
not sure about the MTD/BML I will have to look into that but I am running ext4 now journaling on so I assume I have to change the format back to rfs before messing with that
No one is making odin ROM tars anymore because there is a general dislike of Odin. You can flash the CWM 5.027, then 3 finger into, wipe data, cache and dalvik the flash CM9 and the immediately flash the gapps which is the google apps for things like the market (Play store now), Gmail and other stuff. Odin whichever modem you like at anytime.
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No one is making odin ROM tars anymore because there is a general dislike of Odin. You can flash the CWM 5.027, then 3 finger into, wipe data, cache and dalvik the flash CM9 and the immediately flash the gapps which is the google apps for things like the market (Play store now), Gmail and other stuff. Odin whichever modem you like at anytime.
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yea I dont like odin either
but will I have to use odin for the model update or do the roms do that now also, I am on EC05 now
Well there are some flashable deltas that can get you from EC05 to EI22, then from there to EL30, then another to get you to FC09. Some have had unreliable results on the last one. It is easier to just Odin the one you want.
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well since I have ext4 not rfs I would have to convert back to rfs, I think that cwm and/or bonsai will do this for me - then I could use the samsung software to "restore" my phone to stock and do a ota update to get the latest modem? - I think that the samsung software is odin in a different skin but whatever
again like I said sorry I have been out of the roms for about 1 year and things move so fast with this sorta stuff that I am like starting from scratch again
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well since I have ext4 not rfs I would have to convert back to rfs, I think that cwm and/or bonsai will do this for me - then I could use the samsung software to "restore" my phone to stock and do a ota update to get the latest modem? - I think that the samsung software is odin in a different skin but whatever
again like I said sorry I have been out of the roms for about 1 year and things move so fast with this sorta stuff that I am like starting from scratch again
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No. It doesn't matter because CM9 will convert you to MTD with yaffs2 file system. You are clearing all data anyway. Just flash cwm5, wipe everything and flash.
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well thanks for the help I have installed CM9 and I am happy with it
I have some questions or comments about it so I will post them in the CM9 topic
Are the ics roms safe to flash? The 1st time I flashed a ics rom,i had probs. No recovery,glitchy and jus plain janky. Im sure they have come along way. Can som1 recommend a safe stable ics rom that also has rogue recovery or acs?
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If you want to go back to gingerbread use el29 restore get recovery then flash CyanogenMod 9 it is better than most roms based off leaks.
Here is the latest stock ICS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694695
Give the devs a little time and you can flash a kernel with the recovery you want.
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Are the ics roms safe to flash? The 1st time I flashed a ics rom,i had probs. No recovery,glitchy and jus plain janky. Im sure they have come along way. Can som1 recommend a safe stable ics rom that also has rogue recovery or acs?
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They are safe to flash if you follow OP directions. Always flash from el26 cwm recovery and you're good. If you cant live without recovery, flash a touchwiz rom and use agat63s repack recovery.
SFhub just released an updated FF02+CWM repack built on GB code to avoid the eMMC lockup bug. However, you need to check the ROM and see if update-binary is corrected or not.
Please look for his post on this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694695&page=7
The other safe solution is the one that has been known - go back to EL26 and flash away from there. (GB doesn't have the offending code that causes the bug to be triggered.)
I've been using Calkulin's E4GT 2 v1.6 ICS rom since version 1.6 came out (FE22) and I haven't had a single crash or FC, and I've been getting good battery life.. I never even get close to dying and thats even with a couple hours of screen on time (games, facebook, lots of texting, ~1hour talk time).
I'd say go for it =) Just make sure you follow all instructions carefully! This ROM was very easy to flash.. I had been using Calkulin's GB rom (el29) and all I had to do was wipe my caches and flash his .zip file in CWM.. bam, ICS ^_^
When you say safe what is it you really mean... cuz its all SAFE if you know what you are doing..
Well nothing is ever 100% safe. There is always a small chance you could screw things up somehow (the eg31 deal back when the phone was first released, the emmc bug, etc). There are always possible unknown side effects that don't become obvious until down the line.
That said, if you are careful, the odds of doing something irreversible are extremely small on a phone that has been out for a few months or more.
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I have my rooted E4GT and the Blazer ICS Rom is installed on it at the moment. I kinda want to try and switch to AOKP's latest build and try it out, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that since they clearly stated not to flash from ICS to ICS.
Could anyone point me in the right direction as to what I should do in order to make the switch to AOKP?
Links to both ROM's respective threads:
AOKP Build 40
Phantom's Blazer Rom
Thanks for your time.
You can just Odin the el26 cwm (sorry don't have the link to it on my phone) and flash AOKP from there.
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This is my method, it is 99.9% safe. You can also re-use it to go from other ROMs to any other ics ROM.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the AOKP files, do a data wipe, and flash.
Thank you both for the replies
Would I be able to use calkulins format all to do the wipes? Or does that only work for certain ROMS? It seemed pretty fool proof when I used it, so I was wondering if I could just use that again and it would work just the same? I don't want to forget something and brick my phone as a result
And I'll look into titanium backup, thanks for the suggestion.
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organizedConfoosion said:
Thank you both for the replies
Would I be able to use calkulins format all to do the wipes? Or does that only work for certain ROMS? It seemed pretty fool proof when I used it, so I was wondering if I could just use that again and it would work just the same? I don't want to forget something and brick my phone as a result
And I'll look into titanium backup, thanks for the suggestion.
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For ICS ROMs, I recommend to not use it, just do 1 system data wipe and you'll be fine.
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For ICS ROMs, I recommend to not use it, just do 1 system data wipe and you'll be fine.
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Alright, but all I should need to do is install the EL26 + CWM and I can flash AOKP? I don't need to go back to a stock gingerbread ROM or anything, or will the OC EL26 CWM do that for me?
And you said you don't recommend calkulin's format all for ICS roms, but that's what I was told to use for the Phantom Blazer ICS rom when I was flashing it?
Also, one more question; what is "flash count" and is it a bad thing? I'll do some googling on it myself, but I'd like to hear your explanation because I don't always understand people's ways of describing things and usually take weird explanations to understand so yours would still be much appreciated just in case, thanks. ^_^
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Alright, but all I should need to do is install the EL26 + CWM and I can flash AOKP? I don't need to go back to a stock gingerbread ROM or anything?
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You just need to be on a safe recovery.... if you wipe data in an unconfirmed recovery you can cause a brick. Either use the el26 that all use or the el29-reboot kernel. Both will work no matter what you install regardless of you install (granted you flash a working rom). I prefer the el29 because you install via mobile Odin and it boots straight to safe CWM recovery.
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dante32278 said:
You just need to be on a safe recovery.... if you wipe data in an unconfirmed recovery you can cause a brick. Either use the el26 that all use or the el29-reboot kernel. Both will work no matter what you install regardless of you install (granted you flash a working rom). I prefer the el29 because you install via mobile Odin and it boots straight to safe CWM recovery.
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Hmm, alright, sounds good.
Also, which data's do I need to wipe? Dalvik cache and there's one other I believe?
i just picked up an e4gt today, i had one back in december that i rooted then sold. so im back and now there's a ton of stuff out there for this phone.
i just came over from the evo design where there is pretty much nothing happening, and before that i had an evo shift. i had cm7 installed on that and loved it.
so what rom do you guys suggest i use? i see there is cm9 available in alpha form, which has me very tempted.
im looking for a stable rom with no bloatware. and id love some advice.
BiffTirkle said:
i just picked up an e4gt today, i had one back in december that i rooted then sold. so im back and now there's a ton of stuff out there for this phone.
i just came over from the evo design where there is pretty much nothing happening, and before that i had an evo shift. i had cm7 installed on that and loved it.
so what rom do you guys suggest i use? i see there is cm9 available in alpha form, which has me very tempted.
im looking for a stable rom with no bloatware. and id love some advice.
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Go with cm9 that darchstar has posted. It works great and I use it as my daily. After you do the base install I recommend nightly 7/24 and using the chris41g kernel b3 version with it. Great battery life and full functionality.
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Does cm9 wipe out cwm?
I'm paranoid to do anything without an option for recovery.
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Here is your safest bet (as in super safe):
1. Download the el26 safe cwm kernel from the kernel repository in the sticky for this phone
2. Download cm9 6 and gapps
3. Follow cm9 6 download instructions
4. Let it boot
5. Use mobile Odin if you have it (highly recommend as it makes flashing so easy) and flash the el26 kernel that you downloaded in the kernel section from external sd...always check md5 sum first!
6. Once u see the blue light on ur phone in the LED, hold power+volume up to boot into recovery, once the sgs2 logo shows you can lay off the buttons
7. If you didn't do it in time or held too long, just pull the battery and go to recovery via power+volume up
8. You should be in cwm, flash the nightly of cm9, clear dalvik and cache, then flash the chris 41g b3 kernel and reboot
9. Enjoy
10. From this point forward you have a bomb rom and working recovery that will allow backup/nand/flashing safely.
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Look into Blu Kuban(team venum). No bloat, excellent help from dev. Plenty of options/mods/hacks/updates/themed apps/speed/great battery.
Ditto on Alex. Excellent support... Great battery life. It's themed so you should look at the screenshots and the video on the dev site.
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ok, i think im going to try the cm9 route, but i cannot find the correct kernel, or im doing something wrong. i got odin for android, and downloaded a couple of kernels i thought were the right ones and they didnt show up when i tried to select them with odin.
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ok, i think im going to try the cm9 route, but i cannot find the correct kernel, or im doing something wrong. i got odin for android, and downloaded a couple of kernels i thought were the right ones and they didnt show up when i tried to select them with odin.
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Here is the link for el26, first download.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26295021
The chris41g kernel has its own thread in development, grab the zip format of the cwm b3 version.
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im not finding a b3 version. but i did download the first kernel from chris41g
StockCWM-EL26.zip
i hope thats correct. im going to do a nandroid backup and give it a shot later today. thanks for the help and advice!
its been several months since ive been flashing roms, and i find that it takes me a few days to get back in the swing of things before im flashing again.
The b3 kernel is at chris's goo which is linked to in this xda thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28981308
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So I need to flash el26 kernel first, then I flash 41g-CWM-RC1-b3-0723.zip. then I can flash cm9 and gapps from recovery?
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So I need to flash el26 kernel first, then I flash 41g-CWM-RC1-b3-0723.zip. then I can flash cm9 and gapps from recovery?
El26, boot to recovery, install cm9 per their install guide...after successful install, flash el26 again, wipe cache/dalvik, and install the chris41g kernel from there.
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ok, so i got cm9 on the phone. very excited, except for the launcher wont allow me to add widgets. wierd, same thing with my touchpad.
anyway i tried to flash el26 and it stalled at the splash screen, so i opened up recovery and wiped cache and dalvik, then installed the chris41g kernel. and no dice. aaaanyway. whats the benefit to the other kernels versus what i get with cm9? and is there a solution to my problem?
I read 4g is unreliable on Chris' new kernels
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ok, so i got cm9 on the phone. very excited, except for the launcher wont allow me to add widgets. wierd, same thing with my touchpad.
anyway i tried to flash el26 and it stalled at the boot screen, so i opened up recovery and wiped cache and dalvik, then installed the chris41g kernel. and no dice. aaaanyway. whats the benefit to the other kernels versus what i get with cm9? and is there a solution to my problem?
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I get that problem whatever I wipe the dalvik cache
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well, im not sure what to do now. i love cyanogenmod, and id put up with a few hiccups if i could. but it looks like i wont be able to use this as a daily rom. very disappointing...
so, i might try the blu kuban rom.
at this point i want a debloated stable rom. im back to a rooted stock rom with el29.
i just dont want to brick my phone, i have insurance and can take it in to swap it out. its just a waste of time if i can avoid it.
any other suggestions?
BiffTirkle said:
well, im not sure what to do now. i love cyanogenmod, and id put up with a few hiccups if i could. but it looks like i wont be able to use this as a daily rom. very disappointing...
so, i might try the blu kuban rom.
at this point i want a debloated stable rom. im back to a rooted stock rom with el29.
i just dont want to brick my phone, i have insurance and can take it in to swap it out. its just a waste of time if i can avoid it.
any other suggestions?
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Start with thread #1 on the attached link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625535
To Install
Boot to recovery
Make an NAND Backup
Wipe the phone (with the Format All X2 script)
Flash Part 1
Boot the phone
Go to the updater (Under put things back to stock) and install Part 2 (Two part install is to finish theming Talk)
Reboot and Enjoy
When I did this I went to CWM to flash this through odin. Rom works very smooth. There is a ton of information in the thread but that should get you started.
I rooted my sister's E4GT last year and she's still running Calkulin's E4GT ROM v2.6 and her current kernel is 2.6.35.7-SPH-D710.EL13-CL806482
She's still on Gingerbread, and I want her to enjoy the ICS experience or JB if there's any stable JB ROMs.
My phone is an EVO so I am not comfortable/familiar with the Samsung pitfalls. I don't want to brick my sister's phone.
On my phone I'd download the zip, and in recovery factory reset, wipe data, cache, dalvik, system, and then flash the ROM, but I've read that could lead to a brick on the E4GT.
What's the safest way for me to flash some ICS/JB ROMs for her to try out?
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Easily answered by reading a couple posts. Use search.
Odin safe el26 with cwm, calkulin format all x2, flash rom.
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Easily answered by reading a couple posts. Use search.
Odin safe el26 with cwm, calkulin format all x2, flash rom.
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Just look at ICS roms and first few post to see how they perform. Flash away.
The safest recovery to use is el 26 cwm
http://chris41g.devphone.org/EpicTouch/Stock Repack/EL26/StockCWM-EL26.tar.md5 For Odin or Mobile Odin if you have that.
You can just flash just about anything once you are in that recovery. The only major difference for you to know is that once you flash the rom, the kernel that is packed into the rom will also change the recovery. Also I do not really think there is a need to use a wipe all zip just unnecessary and usually causes error's when installing certain roms.
Most of the newer rom's do come with a safe recovery, but if you are unsure and have not read much and verified that the included recovery in the rom is safe I would recommend using el26cwm.
You can also use this recovery, this one will boot straight to recovery
http://shabbypenguin.com/k0/ecm/E4GT-EL29-directbootCWM-v3.tar.md5
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The safest recovery to use is el 26 cwm
http://chris41g.devphone.org/EpicTouch/Stock Repack/EL26/StockCWM-EL26.tar.md5 For Odin or Mobile Odin if you have that.
You can just flash just about anything once you are in that recovery. The only major difference for you to know is that once you flash the rom, the kernel that is packed into the rom will also change the recovery. Also I do not really think there is a need to use a wipe all zip just unnecessary and usually causes error's when installing certain roms.
Most of the newer rom's do come with a safe recovery, but if you are unsure and have not read much and verified that the included recovery in the rom is safe I would recommend using el26cwm.
You can also use this recovery, this one will boot straight to recovery
http://shabbypenguin.com/k0/ecm/E4GT-EL29-directbootCWM-v3.tar.md5
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Thank you, Was trying to find the recovery to direct that way first but couldn't find the link ( plus at work so little destracted)
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Also I do not really think there is a need to use a wipe all zip just unnecessary and usually causes error's when installing certain roms.
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Most of the roms I have flashed say to use format all. I always use it and haven't come acrossed any errors. Doesn't mean it is absolutely necessary or will not cause errors though.
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Thanks everyone for responding. I'm good to go!
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