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We all know the sound quality is horrendous and I'm sure no one will disagree.
Please note these mods are intended to improve quality and loudness in music. There should absolutely be no distortion, if there is your listening to the music way too high. Its suppose to be crisp and clear and give you perfect quality for what the device can possibly handle. Because the nexus audio is crippled, it still won't sound amazing as some other devices but keep in mind phones aren't suppose to be walking studios.
Well I got the nexus yesterday and rooted it today.
Messed with a ROM And kept it, then decided to start testing the audio. On my droid incredible I could make my music sound like a small studio..
It was great and was hoping for a better quality on the nexus :sly:
So this is what I suggest - "Make a NANDROID"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I nor anyone involved in making these are not responsible for what you do to your device. Even if it makes your cat into a killer ninja while optimus prime blows Saddam Hussain's head to bits.
THESE MODS WERE USED ON 13$ HEADPHONES! So the quality should be exceptionally better on better Headphones.
Install Instructions
1.) Reboot into Recovery or from Fast boot
2.) Find the Audio Mod - .Zip files I've given you
3.) Flash .Zip files, XSincrediblebass uses AROMA, follow aroma instructions
4.) Wait for flash to complete, reboot
5.) Profit?!
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If you're using CWM Stock "Volume buttons+Power" it can be used in Aroma I am on stock CWM.
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These files are by choice -
https://www.box.com/shared/e2b63c139422829334eb
1.) SRS Panel - A modded Equalizer originally made for ICS, works extremely well with XSincrediblebass.
2.) XSincrediblebass AROMA INSTALLER - Two Options once flashed in CWM or the recovery of your choice.
- 1.) Xperia S, install options 2&3. Finish and reboot.
- 2.) Xperia 2011, install options 2&3. Finish and reboot.
3.) Beats Audio08/23 N!K - Install VIA Recovery, overall new lib library - took out useless files and added extras I.e. Dolby Digital. (NEW)
I highly recommend using Xperia 2011, this audio library mod plays well with Nexus Audio/Speaker.
I now recommend Beats Audio 08/23 as its taken the Xperia libs route and can be turned up high enough without distortion while giving full bass.
I still fully recommend xperia 2011.
Install whatever free will, NOTE these have been tested and work.
Unfortunately we cannot get all the bass but most of it is there..
Right now the sound quality is 50x better.
If everything is done correct you'll have this
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To get the best Quality I recommend -
1.) Soundbest Music Player
2.) Neutron Music Player
3.) XenoAmp
4.) Poweramp :thumbdown:
5.) User Appreciated just choose the one you normally use
AND... For Equalizers -
1.) SRS Panel
2.) Audio FX
3.) Audio Master Pro
4.) Media Volume Equalizer
5.) User Defined, use your preferred equalizer.
Hope you all enjoy this, please tell me your experience!
Here is RockoDev thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226 Beats Audio Mod
Here is Xincrediblebass thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609868 HIGHLY recommended.
Here is XenoAmp - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822492 a fantastic music app gaining fame with its simplistic design and features. HIGHLY recommended.
Better control over sound quality
Install either kernel as each seems to work the same -
Glados - https://play.google.com/store/apps...ium=organic&utm_term=glados+control+playstore
Trinity - https://play.google.com/store/apps...tm_medium=organic&utm_term=trinity+play+store
Franco - https://play.google.com/store/apps...utm_medium=organic&utm_term=franco+play+store
Each hold a specific key to increase the volume and increase clarity.
In order to Harold these options you need to buy the apps that will allow full control of various options.
Inside you will find Sound increase and Performance Clarity, set sound increase to 2 and turn on Clarity.
This greatly makes your phone louder and better sounding, clearer.
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Lol Whitechapel hahaha.
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ÜBER™ said:
Lol Whitechapel hahaha.
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I got a variety of music, this album had two songs I enjoyed.
1,592 songs full of Death/Medolic/Power/Black/Death core Metal and Hip-Hop/Rap.
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withbloodskies said:
I got a variety of music, this album had two songs I enjoyed.
1,592 songs full of Death/Medolic/Power/Black/Death core Metal and Hip-Hop/Rap.
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Just not my cup of tea. Gets repetitive and blast beats are the norm. And just about everyone and their mother is making a "death core" band. Only one I truly liked was Carnifex. I personally only really enjoy and listen to metal and metal core. August burns red, After the burial, parkway drive, etc. anyways. I just lol'd because just about every scene fag listens to Whitechapel and the only two songs they like are This exile song and no pity for a coward .
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Just not my cup of tea. Gets repetitive and blast beats are the norm. And just about everyone and their mother is making a "death core" band. Only one I truly liked was Carnifex. I personally only really enjoy and listen to metal and metal core. August burns red, After the burial, parkway drive, etc. anyways. I just lol'd because just about every scene fag listens to Whitechapel and the only two songs they like are This exile song and no pity for a coward .
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Its what came on
I'm talking about Prostatic Fluid Asyphxiation and Messiahbolical.
Meh.. those bands aren't great. Listen to Into Eternity, A Perfect Circle, tool, Salt The Wound, Animals As Leaders, Born of Osiris, Winds of Plague and much much more.
Just to clarify, I'm not scene and I despise them.
The bands you listed are heavily in scene.
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withbloodskies said:
Its what came on
I'm talking about Prostatic Fluid Asyphxiation and Messiahbolical.
Meh.. those bands aren't great. Listen to Into Eternity, A Perfect Circle, tool, Salt The Wound, Animals As Leaders, Born of Osiris, Winds of Plague and much much more.
Just to clarify, I'm not scene and I despise them.
The bands you listed are heavily in scene.
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Born if Osiris.
Animals as leaders (Tosin Abasi is amazing)
Winds of Plague? :what: LOL
I don't like the entire death core or death metal genre, just choose and pick.
I wasn't calling you scene. And unfortunetly yes I know... but I could care less who else listens to them.
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ÜBER™ said:
Born if Osiris.
Animals as leaders (Tosin Abasi is amazing)
Winds of Plague? :what: LOL
I don't like the entire death core or death metal genre, just choose and pick.
I wasn't calling you scene. And unfortunetly yes I know... but I could care less who else listens to them.
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How are you forgetting the band that started most of what you listed...Meshuggah
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Mattymat said:
How are you forgetting the band that started most of what you listed...Meshuggah
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Because I don't go back to the roots of my music.
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The galaxy nexus sound quality is years ahead of my nexus one.
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ÜBER™ said:
Because I don't go back to the roots of my music.
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Love the classics, 80' hair metal bands. Listen to Steel Panther lol..
90's is when I was born and grew up to classic metal and pop/rock.
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Updated OP on better sound.
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Bump, letting more people know.
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Not to sound like a wiseass, but what exactly do these tweaks do? One seems to only boost the bass, which you could do by dropping the preamp a bit and EQing in more bass in a music player app. Enabling Bass Boost and 3D effect is a highly subjective change, one that can hardly be considered to improve "quality". It can add some spatial stereo presence, but it will also mask some of the original sound since you are essentially adding artificial or processed material, or changing the relationship between stereo and centered material. At best you are masking deficiencies by making the original signal a lesser part of the output, and this still means that the processed material added is output by the same system, so it will have the same deficiencies as the original signal might have.
Not to mention bass-boosting a pair of already bass-strong headphones will lead to overpowering of other frequencies, leading to a mess.
This thread could in my opinion at best be called "how to make headphones with weak bass and poor stereo imaging properties potentially sound better", or "my settings I prefer for specific headphone make/model X". Obviously if these settings are applied to headphones that are already at their limits, boosting bass further through EQ could make them physically distort, which would make your tips quite the opposite of an improvement.
The only thing I would consider an objective improvement in what you mention is the Kernel clarity options, which changes the power mode of the sound chip. Though from previous posts, this seems to only provide a dB or 2 more of dynamic range, and not audibly change much else in the audio reproduction;
From the TI documentation: "The stereo headphone path has a low-power (LP) mode operating from a 32-kHz sleep clock to enable more
than 100 hours of MP3 playback time. Very-high dynamic range of 104 dBA is achieved when using the system
clock input and DAC path high-performance (HP) mode."
You're right about the sound being subjective. As far as my subjective needs go, I mostly listen to my music in my car and am very particular about how it sounds, especially clarity being at the fore front. The difference between headphones and car speakers are night and day, and for some people, they prefer that bass thump over everything else.
It would be great if from the board up, they could implement whatever tweaks necessary to make the sound processor be capable of clear sound output without the need for 3rd party fixes.
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TechNoir said:
Not to sound like a wiseass, but what exactly do these tweaks do? One seems to only boost the bass, which you could do by dropping the preamp a bit and EQing in more bass in a music player app. Enabling Bass Boost and 3D effect is a highly subjective change, one that can hardly be considered to improve "quality". It can add some spatial stereo presence, but it will also mask some of the original sound since you are essentially adding artificial or processed material, or changing the relationship between stereo and centered material. At best you are masking deficiencies by making the original signal a lesser part of the output, and this still means that the processed material added is output by the same system, so it will have the same deficiencies as the original signal might have.
Not to mention bass-boosting a pair of already bass-strong headphones will lead to overpowering of other frequencies, leading to a mess.
This thread could in my opinion at best be called "how to make headphones with weak bass and poor stereo imaging properties potentially sound better", or "my settings I prefer for specific headphone make/model X". Obviously if these settings are applied to headphones that are already at their limits, boosting bass further through EQ could make them physically distort, which would make your tips quite the opposite of an improvement.
The only thing I would consider an objective improvement in what you mention is the Kernel clarity options, which changes the power mode of the sound chip. Though from previous posts, this seems to only provide a dB or 2 more of dynamic range, and not audibly change much else in the audio reproduction;
From the TI documentation: "The stereo headphone path has a low-power (LP) mode operating from a 32-kHz sleep clock to enable more
than 100 hours of MP3 playback time. Very-high dynamic range of 104 dBA is achieved when using the system
clock input and DAC path high-performance (HP) mode."
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Modifying audio libs, each ROM is normally packed with the default audio lib hub.
These also sound great on speaker, although better on headphones.. the goal most people look for are higher sound with a peak clarity of performance and this does the trick. It makes your nexus sound 50x better. You don't need to be a believer but I used these on my incredible and they were great, it works just as well on the nexus.
Go ahead try it out?
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1
withbloodskies said:
Modifying audio libs, each ROM is normally packed with the default audio lib hub.
These also sound great on speaker, although better on headphones.. the goal most people look for are higher sound with a peak clarity of performance and this does the trick. It makes your nexus sound 50x better. You don't need to be a believer but I used these on my incredible and they were great, it works just as well on the nexus.
Go ahead try it out?
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1
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I am open to trying it. Disregarding any EQ-only changes (bass boosting) or synthetic changes like 3d or stereo modulation, which mods do you feel improve clarity, that is, doesn't only change the EQ or frequency response, but acts on the details in the sound to improve audio output. I'd be very interested in comparing those and see the results.
TechNoir said:
I am open to trying it. Disregarding any EQ-only changes (bass boosting) or synthetic changes like 3d or stereo modulation, which mods do you feel improve clarity, that is, doesn't only change the EQ or frequency response, but acts on the details in the sound to improve audio output. I'd be very interested in comparing those and see the results.
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Well assuming you want to try the speaker.. the best I'd say is beats07-31, its decent speaker quality, I may have boasted a little much because I didn't clearly examine the nexus speaker in particular. You might notice the beats lay flat on the speaker but you'll hear it. Slightly louder not by much, little clearer. In headphones the bass is kinda muddy, I recommend xincrediblebass for headphones. Its okay on the speaker but dominates the headphones in overall clarity and clearness. Although its recommended to use SRS Panel with xincrediblebass as the two go together. It works with beats07-31 but isn't the best. It flashes in cwm fine, one is aroma - click xperia s enable all but DSP.
Edit: just did a test, scratch the first install "xperia s" install xperia 2011(?) Install the same two. Extremely louder and clearer, it plays better with the nexus device than the xperia s version. Vise versa it works better on my DInc then the xperia 2011(?) Version.
I am boasting this increases the speaker a lot, I heard a ton of clarity.
Distortion if the volume is raised way too high.
Edit 2: this was on stock kernel faux- no other mods etc. Only installed the afore mentioned audio library mod, works extremely well and better with SRS.
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withbloodskies said:
Well assuming you want to try the speaker.. the best I'd say is beats07-31, its decent speaker quality, I may have boasted a little much because I didn't clearly examine the nexus speaker in particular. You might notice the beats lay flat on the speaker but you'll hear it. Slightly louder not by much, little clearer. In headphones the bass is kinda muddy, I recommend xincrediblebass for headphones. Its okay on the speaker but dominates the headphones in overall clarity and clearness. Although its recommended to use SRS Panel with xincrediblebass as the two go together. It works with beats07-31 but isn't the best. It flashes in cwm fine, one is aroma - click xperia s enable all but DSP.
Edit: just did a test, scratch the first install "xperia s" install xperia 2011(?) Install the same two. Extremely louder and clearer, it plays better with the nexus device than the xperia s version. Vise versa it works better on my DInc then the xperia 2011(?) Version.
I am boasting this increases the speaker a lot, I heard a ton of clarity.
Distortion if the volume is raised way too high.
Edit 2: this was on stock kernel faux- no other mods etc. Only installed the afore mentioned audio library mod, works extremely well and better with SRS.
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1
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I see, thanks alot for the info. The speaker I'm not that worried about, it's a bit shrill but I never use it. Which mod works best for the 3.5mm output in your opinion?
TechNoir said:
I see, thanks alot for the info. The speaker I'm not that worried about, it's a bit shrill but I never use it. Which mod works best for the 3.5mm output in your opinion?
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Well since I just dabbled on a new audio library, I'd have to say Xincrediblebass -
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Aroma
then choose xperia 2011" click both options other than DSP.
Install the srs panel after cwm or before, it can be used in Google Play Music, Semc, Apollo and I believe stock Gingerbread Music player.
Possibly more but I haven't looked. Google Play Music enables the audio effects in SRS panel on the fly "active".
In Apollo or Semc you have to pause, and exit the app and re-enter to enable SRS panel effects. Google you do not need to do this, although it seems the settings don't stick sometimes.. I'm looking into this.
So basically everything at my Edit line and below is what I officially support. I just found out about this myself so I am fully behind Xincrediblebass "Xperia 2011" S is lower and mainly for Xperia devices. This wasn't performing well on the nexus. Glad I tested the "Xperia 2011" library.
You don't need SRS panel but its highly recommended as the two mods go hand in hand. Other equalizers work with it too, assuming you wanted to connect this to your car.. it will probably work great!
I'll edit the OP later when I wake up etc.
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Hi everyone!
I feel the need to create a post here as my mail & twitter accounts are filled with "Please support Galaxy Nexus" requests, pressuring me everyday.
My goal here is not to generate expectations or start teasing but to give answers I can give.
So!
What I'll do and what I'll not do on Galaxy Nexus:
Won't do:
Voodoo Sound:
Yea, I know, I said a few weeks ago I might add Galaxy Nexus in Voodoo sound but eventually that won't be the case for several reasons.
- Galaxy Nexus audio quality potential is good but not quite as good as what I target.
- Galaxy Nexus audio codec, TI TWL6040 has no DSP, which means:
Parametric EQ
Stereo enhancements
Advanced recording presets using Dynamic Range Compression
Using hardware: those cannot be done.
Its the signature and exclusive features of Voodoo Sound and what matters to me.
I know devices with WM8994 tend to become old compared to the latest generation but I don't care.
Sound quality stay just as excellent and class-leading, that's what's important no matter how many new devices are released each week.
Will do:
Voodoo LOUDER:
That's why I created this different app, in order to host useful audio mods/hacks even if they don't reach the quality and features I require for Voodoo Sound.
Things I'll implement here:
- Analog headphone amplifier control, with perfect OS integration and automatic optimal setup for the best audio quality results.
If there are a few dB left to squeeze at maximum output level, the biggest interest here is the opposite: with optimizations for sensitive headphones & in-ear.
I'll implement a few more things but you'll see it by yourself.
Where there will be no compromise, its about usability, seamless experience, automatic optimal settings and most importantly no custom kernel requirements (only root)
This is why it require more work (and more time) than random hacks but eventually its of course worth it as I'm sure it will become one of the app you'll use daily.
Wi-fi screen-off fix:
Wi-fi is terrible with several routers (loosing every packet as soon as the screen turns off) and that has to be fixed.
I started working on it as well but as usual, I target a patching & flashing free solution.
Too soon to comment:
Screen color rendering customization and calibration − long term project unifying most Super AMOLED and LCD Samsung flagships.
General
- no ETA. It's done when it's done.
- Don't count on anything before it's actually released. Some part can be very challenging due to constrains (compatibility, no flashing) and might be impossible, or possible, or take months.. I'm sure you see what I mean
I say that because if the devs I try to publish look like simple apps, they depend on crazy hacks, doing things not how it was supposed to. So there's always research and challenges behind and it the outcome can be better but also worse than expected.
Thank you! Voodoo louder has definitely made my Galaxy S II sound better. Can't wait
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I'm pretty stoked to see where this goes!
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thanks! the galaxy nexus desperately needs a volume boost and a screen mod.
neotekz said:
thanks! the galaxy nexus desperately needs a volume boost.
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You're asking about speaker or earpiece during call, right?
Because in its stock configuration it already has one of the loudest headphone output level on market.
OMG! Supercurio, I love you!!!!
you made it in the SGS..., now with GNEX... thanks for your job and your time...
mmm voodoo color for GNEX please... IMO is very needed like in the SGS
best regards
supercurio said:
You're asking about speaker or earpiece during call, right?
Because in its stock configuration it already has one of the loudest headphone output level on market.
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headphone out, bluetooth and earpiece are fine, its the speaker that's lacking. my lg optimus p500 is louder, im using volume+ right now to make the speaker louder but even with the max volume boost it not even as loud as my Atrix without any mods.
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If there are a few dB left to squeeze at maximum output level, the biggest interest here is the opposite: with optimizations for sensitive headphones & in-ear.
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Yes! Exactly what I need! Hate relying on stupid software eq to tune down the overly high volume!
Thanks in advance.
I will be following this very closely! Thank you Francois.
Swyped from my Galaxy Nexus
This has made my day. We really appreciate you supercurio! I dont care what you charge for another voodoo app. I'm here to support your work so make the price worth your hard work
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No DSP! Seriously! Texas Instruments were the first (ever) to produce a DSP and the didn't implement one in their OMAP 4 platform? I find that hard to believe.
What I most miss from the Nexus S with VoodooSound is the awesome stereo crosstalk. I don't suppose you can do something about that...
Other then that the TWL6040 is already pretty damn good IMO.
We appreciate your work and hope for further releases.
neotekz said:
headphone out, bluetooth and earpiece are fine, its the speaker that's lacking. my lg optimus p500 is louder, im using volume+ right now to make the speaker louder but even with the max volume boost it not even as loud as my Atrix without any mods.
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I quote any word. Headphone is very low. i'm using volume+ at 15 level, but even with this dangerous level call, media audio is not even as loud as other devices.
Supercurio for me you must concentrate on headphone.
Thanks for you work
Hope to use soon this mod.
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Yesssssssssssssss
acer73 said:
I quote any word. Headphone is very low. i'm using volume+ at 15 level, but even with this dangerous level call, media audio is not even as loud as other devices.
Supercurio for me you must concentrate on headphone.
Thanks for you work
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i am using aokp and headphone output is very high.. listening at only 1/4 volume with my westones.
oyebto said:
i am using aokp and headphone output is very high.. listening at only 1/4 volume with my westones.
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Even 1 bar of volume is too loud with my westone
Thanks !
I never hear my ringtone in my pocket, and shakes either with my GN.
Thanks Supercurio! Especially excited about the wifi fix, that's about the only thing that's really bothering me. Glad to hear you're working on a fix! Good luck with it all...
On my Fascinate I could use DSPManager to mess with the sound effects when streaming bluetooth audio.
Will that not be possible on my GNex? If so, HUGE bummer. Im not sure if that had anything to do with Voodoo Sound on the Fasci or if DSPManager just isnt working correctly in ICS yet.
Thanks.
-Chris
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Even 1 bar of volume is too loud with my westone
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I second that!
Because of the ridiculously loud volume, I am still carrying my Cowon with me every day.
Does the Beats Audio sound mod really make a difference with music playback or is it more of a placebo effect?
naosuke said:
Does the Beats Audio sound mod really make a difference with music playback or is it more of a placebo effect?
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It truly makes a difference. It artificially increases the output of all sub 120hz frequencies so that the bass sounds louder and heavier.
It's a gimmick, "Raistline" explained it best:
""My reasoning is as follows.
On the Beats Audio HW side, it is overprices POS that lives on name brand along, much like BOSE. This is not to say the Hardware is bad, but rather that it is highly over-priced for what you get and can often get better quality for 1/3rd or less of the MSRP if you buy other brands.
As for the SW side of things Beats audio artificially increases the the lower end of the audio spectrum through audio "enhancement" algorithms which actually colors the sound and effects not only the Lower Bass but Mid-bass as well and imho ruins the music. It ruins it by changing the sound signature drastically from the original. Basically from all I have seen through wave-guide charts is that it adds or amplifies all frequencies under 120hz to be at an equal or higher level than the highest output for a single frequency. In short, it makes all music sound heavy in bass whether or not it was the artists original intention.""
Flash Paradox and you will see it in full effect..well a tweaked effect. On my sensation its horrible but I pulled all files and combined them with DSP manager...
Now you can toggle it on or off via DSP settings.
I tweaked it so it sounds much much cleaner and you can tweak it to ur liking in DSP Manager
My personal rule of HiFi. If you need EQ or any extra sound 'enhancers' you just need some new speakers/headphones.
JhonKa said:
My personal rule of HiFi. If you need EQ or any extra sound 'enhancers' you just need some new speakers/headphones.
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Not always true, sometimes different hardware will react differently, plus the environment you are listening to makes a difference. That being said, artificially increasing EQ values across the board usually means your shortfall is hardware related, like you said.
Master&Slave™ said:
Flash Paradox and you will see it in full effect..well a tweaked effect. On my sensation its horrible but I pulled all files and combined them with DSP manager...
Now you can toggle it on or off via DSP settings.
I tweaked it so it sounds much much cleaner and you can tweak it to ur liking in DSP Manager
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I use professional audio equipment all day everyday. Beats does nothing amazing and in most cases makes music sound worse. If you have crappy monitors or cheap headphones, its possible for beats to push the already mediocre lower end more. The only problem is it makes music that is already clear sound muddy. Best thing you can do is listen to quality music (FLAC, MP4, AIFF, WAV, 320kbs). Raising the response of lower frequencies in horribly compressed music (96-224kbs & vbs) is only gonna make it sound worse over the whole spectrum. If your looking for a quick way to make your Bieber or Lil Wayne pirated copy sound better, this will do just fine for your needs. For true audiophiles and sound junkies, beats is nothing more than a cheap gimmick marketed at people who just wanna look cool.
I really think to sell my HTC One X because the audio quality is awful especially on speaker. Yes thats right I'm audiophile and it sounds so compressed especially on higher volume. Its like limiting the sound with slow release and sounds like high-low-high-low every second plus bonus compression. I really hope it can be fixed with some mod otherwise I will just sell it and get galaxy s3 (yeah htc fans kill me but it sounds much better) puke for dr. Dre and his beats audio. Not to even mention that it makes the lossless music sound so much worse literally. Somebody else noticed my problem?
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Beats audio uses too much compression. Try disabling any audio enhancement and listen to your music as is.
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Beats audio can't be used on speaker.
You're talking about being an audiophile yet you're complaining about sound quality on an external speaker and not headphones? ._.
Check this out http://www.moonaudio.com/titan_spkr.htm
Yeah because I care about it too. On headphones is not much different even with beats disabled. I think it sounds the same with CM9 but I have to try again.
Edit: What you showed me is ridiculous. I have my own studio monitors and I can listen on them. But when I'm in the other room for example and don't have headphones it really sucks to listen to this bad audio.
The fact that HTC made such an expensive phone full of crap (not just the audio) is awful.
No audiophile will listen COMPRESSED music on SMARTPHONE
The best audio i was experiencing on mobile phone was on SGS1 with VooDoo sound mod.
HOX is kinda comparable.
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Yeah because I care about it too. On headphones is not much different even with beats disabled. I think it sounds the same with CM9 but I have to try again.
Edit: What you showed me is ridiculous. I have my own studio monitors and I can listen on them. But when I'm in the other room for example and don't have headphones it really sucks to listen to this bad audio.
The fact that HTC made such an expensive phone full of crap (not just the audio) is awful.
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Sell it and get another phone then...What's the point of making this thread? Unless you want to open it up and stick a better speaker in there and show us all how it's done? :3
i can bet he is not a one x owner just a troll. Come on buddy who cares listening to music through phone speaker mireover its not that cheap china phone with big speakers at back pumping music loud
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I sometimes wonder how people will say anything to hide a flaw with their phone. Why not just accept it, and let the OP know that he/she is not alone facing it... after that its on the individual whether he wants to live with it or go for a change!!
OP i agree with you, HOX has the worst speaker on any phone i have seen till date (forget about this being an expensive phone). Volume is too low for ringtone in noisy conditions and sound is so distorted that you'll never want to listen to music on it. That said, i think sound on earphones is quite decent and with good quality earphones and DSP manager it fares really well (at least to my ears).
Personally, i love various other features of HOX and ready to bear with the bad speakers on the phone. How important are speakers to you on a phone is for you to decide.
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I sometimes wonder how people will say anything to hide a flaw with their phone. Why not just accept it, and let the OP know that he/she is not alone facing it... after that its on the individual whether he wants to live with it or go for a change!!
OP i agree with you, HOX has the worst speaker on any phone i have seen till date (forget about this being an expensive phone). Volume is too low for ringtone in noisy conditions and sound is so distorted that you'll never want to listen to music on it. That said, i think sound on earphones is quite decent and with good quality earphones and DSP manager it fares really well (at least to my ears).
Personally, i love various other features of HOX and ready to bear with the bad speakers on the phone. How important are speakers to you on a phone is for you to decide.
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If you look around the soundboard folder you can edit and force srs processing on the speaker (disabled by default) did it on my phone at lower levels its better but maxed out you can here it distorts, you can edit the gain and other eq settings not looked to much no computer while im looking for a house :/
@op
if you root you can use dspmanager just the compression doesn't work but not like that's wanted but I'm looking into that. if you're not you can install the apk but you can't use custom eq but the defaults work just fine.
You should give it a go.
But the speaker is loud to me just not the best sounding.
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jainanshal said:
I sometimes wonder how people will say anything to hide a flaw with their phone. Why not just accept it, and let the OP know that he/she is not alone facing it... after that its on the individual whether he wants to live with it or go for a change!!
OP i agree with you, HOX has the worst speaker on any phone i have seen till date (forget about this being an expensive phone). Volume is too low for ringtone in noisy conditions and sound is so distorted that you'll never want to listen to music on it. That said, i think sound on earphones is quite decent and with good quality earphones and DSP manager it fares really well (at least to my ears).
Personally, i love various other features of HOX and ready to bear with the bad speakers on the phone. How important are speakers to you on a phone is for you to decide.
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Well I did a side by side comparison with my desires, and It's a ten fold improvement. Couldn't even hear the desires, just a tinny wasp sound. This speaker actually has bass (relative ) and some mid range.
But yes, It's a phone, no audiophile would give it the time of day, especially the speaker lol..
Also it depends on how compressed the track is when they mixed it down. Rip your tracks from audiophile vinyl as flac, get some £200 headphones, then see what it sounds like. That's the only way to get a real feel for its capabilities as a music player.
@Op,
Yes it hurts my eyes too. :cyclops:
hapticc said:
i can bet he is not a one x owner just a troll. Come on buddy who cares listening to music through phone speaker mireover its not that cheap china phone with big speakers at back pumping music loud
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agreed..dont feed the troll..even if every single inch of you begs you to..it will irritate them more..
@Op
While not as good of a device, you should look at the GS3 for its Wolfson Audio chipset. If you're like me and listen to everything in lossless on your home computer, then here's what I recommend.
#1: Turn off Beats Audio
#2: Use PowerAmp
#3: Just put the raw flac files on your phone. MP3 shouldn't even be in your vocabulary.
#4: I recommend moving over to head-fi.org and finding a good set of earbuds. I listen to my HOX over Bluetooth (aptX allows for lossless send over stereo) or using my Sennheiser 650s.
The Bluetooth stack is pretty terrible in Android, but that's hardly the fault of htc. Tegra3 isn't a great choice for audio. See here:
Dynamic range comparison (less is worse):
HTC One X (T3): 80.6dB
iPhone 4S: 91.3dB
HTC One S (S4): 90.6dB
Galaxy S III: 90.2dB
Galaxy S II: 90.2dB
Galaxy S: 90.6dB
Nexus One: 85.8dB
IMD+ noise comparison (more is worse):
HTC One X (T3): .459
iPhone 4S: .071
HTC One S (S4): .065
Galaxy S III: .090
Galaxy S II: .647
Galaxy S: .329
Nexus One: .088
All of that said, I'd still rather have the HOX over the S3.
Is everyone talking about the in-built external speaker? I'm far from an audiophile but listening to anything from any phone's in-built speaker is a painful exercise.
I got one of these primarily because of its portability. It sounds amazingly good. I’m probably going to get a second one because when used in pairs they playback in stereo.
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I have a pair of Shure 530's which are considered decent headphones. I got a chance to play with a DoCoMo SGS3 which has the Qualcomm DAC and I owned a i9100 which had the Yamaha DAC. I'd rate the phones in the following order:
1) One X
2) SGS3
3) SGS2
The Samsung phones are brighter, more so the SGS3, but the One X has far better separation and range. And on decent headphones the Beats enhancements are god awful. The best setting is “none” or for vocals “treble boost.” At least in my opinion. Anyone using A2DP should skip Samsung phones entirely. With my i9100 I thought BT was responsible for making my music sound like an XM broadcast. The One X is exceptional at A2DP and in a different league than the two Samsung phones I have experience with. The international SGS3 may be different because I haven't used one yet.
True audiophiles who are buying a phone specifically for high quality audio output should only be buying the SGS3 international version. Not only because of the Wolfson DAC but because supercurio has signed on to create his Voodoo apps for it.
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@Op
While not as good of a device, you should look at the GS3 for its Wolfson Audio chipset. If you're like me and listen to everything in lossless on your home computer, then here's what I recommend.
#1: Turn off Beats Audio
#2: Use PowerAmp
#3: Just put the raw flac files on your phone. MP3 shouldn't even be in your vocabulary.
#4: I recommend moving over to head-fi.org and finding a good set of earbuds. I listen to my HOX over Bluetooth (aptX allows for lossless send over stereo) or using my Sennheiser 650s.
The Bluetooth stack is pretty terrible in Android, but that's hardly the fault of htc. Tegra3 isn't a great choice for audio. See here:
Dynamic range comparison (less is worse):
HTC One X (T3): 80.6dB
iPhone 4S: 91.3dB
HTC One S (S4): 90.6dB
Galaxy S III: 90.2dB
Galaxy S II: 90.2dB
Galaxy S: 90.6dB
Nexus One: 85.8dB
IMD+ noise comparison (more is worse):
HTC One X (T3): .459
iPhone 4S: .071
HTC One S (S4): .065
Galaxy S III: .090
Galaxy S II: .647
Galaxy S: .329
Nexus One: .088
All of that said, I'd still rather have the HOX over the S3.
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You can edit the compression level the codes is this in default global
srs_wowhd_0:wowhd_trubass_compressor =0.250// TruBass Compressor - control
There are different settings for different devices and things the file is etc/soundimage/ srs_global.cfg, remember to change srs_route_out:speaker to 1 to force srs if you guys fancy testing stuff I really don't have time.
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Mine sounds awesome on my beat headphones I got free, better than my senheissers I used on my S2.
Then again I know A. how to keep my ears clean, and B. How to wear headphones...
The amount of people who are "Audiophiles" but dont know how to do the above is rediculous.
Also an audiophile never listens to music on a phone, I use my Yamaha amplifier and Mission speakers, or in the car the Bose setup.... for christ sake its a phone not an amp....
Haha.. well said.
I think it must be a kind of masochisme as 'audiophile' listening to a phone's external speaker. :laugh:
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Is everyone talking about the in-built external speaker? I'm far from an audiophile but listening to anything from any phone's in-built speaker is a painful exercise.
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Ffs just dl poweramp, disable beats audio and adjust it to your liking. One x audio is awesome, I don't care what anyone says, I'm no audiophile, but I go through my Cyrus setup which includes two psx and Russ Andrews powerblock so my hifi cost was a little over 5k (good but not hi end), the one x was a revelation. It sounds better than my gfs iphone.
Please get poweramp, its even been specifically optimized for one x now. You'll change your mind.
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Ffs just dl poweramp, disable beats audio and adjust it to your liking. One x audio is awesome, I don't care what anyone says, I'm no audiophile, but I go through my Cyrus setup which includes two psx and Russ Andrews powerblock so my hifi cost was a little over 5k (good but not hi end), the one x was a revelation. It sounds better than my gfs iphone.
Please get poweramp, its even been specifically optimized for one x now. You'll change your mind.
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Thanks for the poweramp tip.
Massive improvement that exceeded my expectations. Wow.
Hi peeps...
Had a GNex for bout 3 months or so from a Optimus V... and things are awesome... almost. Having played around with modding it and messing around with it for a good 3 months has me noticing its biggest(and really, only) flaw. The audio sucks, it's horrible, my Optimus V was WAY better, and that was a crappy $200 3.2" dumb-smartphone.
I'm going to assume phones use hardware audio processing chips... which means that Samsung either skimped on something or I'm doing something horribly wrong with my whole setup, or something can patch either of these two causes. Granted, the sound quality isn't exactly BAD, but it's nowhere near as good as it could be. I notice a very obvious quality and fidelity difference playing from both my Creative X-Fi card and my old phone compared to my gnex, both 320kbps mp3.
I've made it bearable through DSP manager EQ and post-process EQ, but it clips at higher volumes now(due to dsp manager)... has anybody made a real software audio fix for the GNex?(assuming I'm not crazy and other people have noticed that it sucks too) Even good post processing doesn't really help if the DSP was crappy...
Just for kicks, here's my car setup(I notice even larger differences with my headset/earbuds in, and I don't even use enthusiast stuff)
GNex streams 320kbps mp3 over a2dp to my Bluetooth head unit, I thought leaving the DAC stuff to my car would help... assuming my car does better DAC than a phone ever could.
Miracle settings, anyone? XD
Enabling the EQ and adjusting the settings in the stock player goes a long way towards what you are looking for. Many say the volume is still too low but I don't think so. I also use Pandora and that is not anywhere near loud enough at times due to it's rather limited player. There are some apps in the market for boosting volume although not all work with JB.
If you get the car dock, and gut it, then put an led(smd preferable) between that center pin and ground, you get spdif. If your looking to hook it to your stereo and are worried about audio quality that spdif signal would be translated straight. I was lucky enough to get a desk dock, and as far as getting the spdif, that's all they did.
You sir are correct in that the only flaw this phone has is mediocre sound. The DAC is just average. Since the audio issues are hardware related, theres not much that can be done. As stated earlier, EQing is really the only option. I cant beleive these "Superphones" have such bad DAC's, when my $30 Sansa Clip+ has hardware that satisfies most audiophiles! End of rant.
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Headset or just speaker?
I'm getting a nexus on Tuesday and with the audio mods I use on my Droid incredible right now I can make it sound like a small studio.
I'll let you know what I experience when I'm rooted and let my phone rest etc.
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Headset or just speaker?
I'm getting a nexus on Tuesday and with the audio mods I use on my Droid incredible right now I can make it sound like a small studio.
I'll let you know what I experience when I'm rooted and let my phone rest etc.
bOx Stash -
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I'm comparing with earbuds and headset(bose IE/QC15, not the best but doesnt matter), and with my car(stock Honda system with after market head unit that supports 5 band EQ, bluetooth and aux input)
Through the headphone output, the GNex is embarrassingly bad. My $60 creative X-Fi Pro card beats it, and my $200 crappy prepaid old phone beats it, as well, in both quality, and fidelity.
THROUGH BLUETOOTH, the GNex isn't quite as bad(due to the fact that bluetooth audio is digital, DAC done by my car bluetooth circuitry). This way, I can set the DSP EQ from the GNex through DSP Manager... awesome(the dev) did make that Beats DSP Manager for AOKP GNex, but for the life of me I couldn't hear a bit of a difference... so I'm using vanilla DSP Manager(certainly makes a difference). The GNex is still worse over a2dp than my old phone, and my laptop... since DSP is still being done by my phone. It screws up the signal somehow... because no matter how much post-processing I do on the anolog side(car stereo), I can't restore it to what simple EQ did on my aforementioned devices... and the CLIPPING is just such a shame, my old phone didn't clip nearly as badly with the same settings.
Do let me know if you find a perfect setup... I'm seriously considering spending money on extra car signal processing to compensate for the poor quality, but the signal coming out of my PHONE should be of high enough quality that I don't need to spend hundreds on a car system lol.
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I'm comparing with earbuds and headset(bose IE/QC15, not the best but doesnt matter), and with my car(stock Honda system with after market head unit that supports 5 band EQ, bluetooth and aux input)
Through the headphone output, the GNex is embarrassingly bad. My $60 creative X-Fi Pro card beats it, and my $200 crappy prepaid old phone beats it, as well, in both quality, and fidelity.
THROUGH BLUETOOTH, the GNex isn't quite as bad(due to the fact that bluetooth audio is digital, DAC done by my car bluetooth circuitry). This way, I can set the DSP EQ from the GNex through DSP Manager... awesome(the dev) did make that Beats DSP Manager for AOKP GNex, but for the life of me I couldn't hear a bit of a difference... so I'm using vanilla DSP Manager(certainly makes a difference). The GNex is still worse over a2dp than my old phone, and my laptop... since DSP is still being done by my phone. It screws up the signal somehow... because no matter how much post-processing I do on the anolog side(car stereo), I can't restore it to what simple EQ did on my aforementioned devices.
Do let me know if you find a perfect setup... I'm seriously considering spending money on extra car signal processing to compensate for the poor quality, but the signal coming out of my PHONE should be of high enough quality that I don't need to spend hundreds on a car system lol.
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Have you physically used an audio "changing libs/audio libraries" that good stuff? I'm a audiophile freak and I'm hoping that even if these are applied it will make the audio better. From the way you guys mention this is sounds like its horrible lol
Give me a second I'll show you the audio mods I use.
Abeit I'd use a different music player but this enables me to use the eq on the fly without me having to close the program to activate the eq settings.
Here are two images of what I use -
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Here are the threads with the mods -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226
Now with this mod I'd definitely nandroid because its made for Xperia devices but my HTC Droid incredible can use it.
So it does with work other phones/roms I'd just be careful. This is the best mod but one specifically made for Xperia, that just seems to work with an odd number of devices.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609868 using these will drastically improve audio and give your audio loudness and better bass and overall clarity. I'm hoping they work for the nexus..
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1
withbloodskies said:
Have you physically used an audio "changing libs/audio libraries" that good stuff? I'm a audiophile freak and I'm hoping that even if these are applied it will make the audio better. From the way you guys mention this is sounds like its horrible lol
Give me a second I'll show you the audio mods I use.
Abeit I'd use a different music player but this enables me to use the eq on the fly without me having to close the program to activate the eq settings.
Here are two images of what I use -
Here are the threads with the mods -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226
Now with this mod I'd definitely nandroid because its made for Xperia devices but my HTC Droid incredible can use it.
So it does with work other phones/roms I'd just be careful. This is the best mod but one specifically made for Xperia, that just seems to work with an odd number of devices.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609868 using these will drastically improve audio and give your audio loudness and better bass and overall clarity. I'm hoping they work for the nexus..
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1
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It was a nightmare to simply get DSP Manager to work nicely with AOKP, I had to do endless prodding just to find one that actually WORKED and didn't cause boot loops. I suppose using CM9 would be the easy way to ensure compatibility.
My kernel has this tweak by Ezeekel or however you spell it for "better quality audio" or some crap like that, no idea if it actually works.
I can say with confidence that if you used those settings on the GNex, you would hear crazy clipping every time you hit the high gain sections of your EQ steps.
The Nexus is awesome in just about every other aspect besides audio fidelity.
Do let everyone know if that mod works for the Nexus... because then I would question why it was ever necessary for people to specifically port Beats to Nexus.
How does using the EQ fix sound fidelity or quality issues? Are you insisting the frequency response of the output isn't linear? EQ is used to correct a pair of non-linear headphones or speakers, and not any issue inherent with the output device.
When setting up an EQ, you want to never raise any bar above 0db. So take those settings, and lower each bar by 15db if the highest setting is at +15. That will eliminate the distortion.
The LG G2x had real audio issues - these was a humming/buzzing noise on the 3.5mm output. Try to explain exactly whats up with this phone
Okay.. so I'm back. Rooted and working. Take this with a grain of salt because I'm using new headphones and pandora..
I'm using audio master pro, its an equalizer that doesn't work well with the nexus lol. Anyway.. before I did anything I heard the quality "which I'm highly disappointed" and then did the mod, this is not what I use nor condone because it doesn't give me the audio I desire although clear.
When I finish transferring my 10gbs of music I'll let you know how things work.
With hip-hop And rap it works fine with these settings, great bass and clarity. Could be better but again when I finish all my transfers I'll let you know.
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flashed AOKP JB M1 and everything went to hell again... darn wonder when JB will get DSP support
Just came from the S3 and loving this phone .....except for the audio. The sound is a bit boomy and not as crisp as the S3. Tried DSP enhancements on Player Pro but no good.
Are there any software mods or apps without root to improve the audio quality?
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Acid mod!
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sandshrimp said:
Just came from the S3 and loving this phone .....except for the audio. The sound is a bit boomy and not as crisp as the S3. Tried DSP enhancements on Player Pro but no good.
Are there any software mods or apps without root to improve the audio quality?
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^^Acid mod
dsp manager
beats audio
or try a market app called music volume eq
that my frnd actually works
Soul reaper said:
^^Acid mod
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Starting the rooting process. Will try those mods. Just hope its not a hardware issue.
Thanks
Just installed the Beats Mod off the market and it helps tremendously.
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He wants crispness, not artificially added bass that distorts the actual music. Stop recommending beats for clarity. I can't believe how horribly marketed Bests is to the point where people actually believe it produces studio quality sounds. If anything, Bests will make the sound even MORE boomy, which OP says he doesn't want.
OP, have you tried Poweramp? Its a great music player, I find the EQ adjustments there to be better than DPS manager. You can use some of the presets if you don't want to manually adjust them.
What headphones are you using? It helps to know what you have this connected to; the clarity issue may be there.
I don't use my phone to listen to music, but I haven't had any clarity issues the times I decided to test some songs on it here and there. I already have a Rockboxed Sansa clip that's portable enough that I don't particularly care about saving space by having my phone play music as well.
Acid mod causes a few problems with audio. At least the one I flashed. It made my speakerphone button during calls mute them even after ending them and a reboot was required. I feel it might have been the build.prop edits causing this but I didn't bother checking.
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He wants crispness, not artificially added bass that distorts the actual music. Stop recommending beats for clarity. I can't believe how horribly marketed Bests is to the point where people actually believe it produces studio quality sounds. If anything, Bests will make the sound even MORE boomy, which OP says he doesn't want.
OP, have you tried Poweramp? Its a great music player, I find the amp adjustments there to be better than DPS manager. You can use some of the presets if you don't want to manually adjust them.
What headphones are you using? It helps to know what you have this connected to; the clarity issue may be there.
I don't use my phone to music, but I haven't had any clarity issues the times I decided to test some songs on it here and there. I already have a Rockboxed Sansa clip that's portable enough that I don't particularly care about saving space by having my phone play music as well.
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See the thing is, its my OPINION!! I can recommend Beats but he does NOT have to use it. In MY phone it produces a really good quality without too much bass. Some speakers in some phones may be different. Sorry for touching a nerve on the Beats mod but its an opinion.
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Doing some research for you, I'll test out a little myself. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noozxoidelabs.eizo.rewirepro&hl=en Noozcoidelabs seems pretty decent so far, but you may need a lot of adjusting to get it to sound the way you want it to. I'll test it a little more and give you my opinion on it.
Looking more into it, does anyone know what Beats audio mod actually does to the sound? I was under the assumption and previously saw it simply slapped on a pre EQ'd sound signature that gave the overly bassy sound the Beats headphones give out; but looking into it, it doesn't seem like anyone is really sure what it does other than "makes things sound better"
Anyone know what it actually tweaks? From a technical standpoint. If it's not just an EQ slapped onto your sound system-wide then I'm not sure what it's doing. I can try it myself to test how it sounds, but I'm skeptical due to Beats being notoriously bass heavy and the marketing technique being to throw out buzz words and use celebrities to give the illusion to ill informed customers that you're actually getting the best quality you can find for you cash. They do spent a lot in designing things to look pretty though.
Spoiler: Monster is the company that makes Beats, that same company that tried to sell you $100 4 foot HDMI cables back when HDTVs were coming out and becoming more affordable. They always do this kind of marketing to lure in suckers to buying their overpriced products that don't actually give the quality people are marketed to believe.
Edit: Still testing Noozxoide, it does a lot for sound stage, and clarity. Setting the Surrouundsound ES Processor to the highest levels makes it a bit off, but picking Studio or Studio II works just fine for it. Don't go too wild with the tweaks, keeping them at moderate seems to give the best results. I'm still tweaking around with it.
Vfan23 said:
See the thing is, its my OPINION!! I can recommend Beats but he does NOT have to use it. In MY phone it produces a really good quality without too much bass. Some speakers in some phones may be different. Sorry for touching a nerve on the Beats mod but its an opinion.
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It's nice to have an opinion, but looking at it from a technical standpoint the sound produced from it can still be inferior even if you think it isn't. I'm sorry I touched a nerve on your opinion by trying to give the OP advice from a non-opinionated standpoint. Regardless if someone thinks a pair of $300 Beats cans offers the best sound; looking at the specs it's easy to see that they're outperformed by headphones that are at a fraction of their price.
If the OP asked for a sweet gaming rig and you told him to get a horrible GPU that would have difficulty handling many modern games; and said "well it worked for me, and the games look just fine to me" that'd be accurate as an opinion, but it wouldn't be accurate from a technical standpoint at all. You may find the 9 FPS to be better than the 60 FPS he'd get elsewhere, but it doesn't mean that it's a good recommendation. If I went against your recommendation, pointed out the flaw in why it was a bad recommendation, and then provided an alternative that would better suit his needs, it'd be pointless to backlash at me. Telling him your pre-built Dell works wonders for you in your gaming endeavors doesn't help lead him in the right direction if it isn't what he's looking for.
Of course he doesn't have to use it, but if he's asking what to use and everyone is telling him the same thing; of course he's going to give it a shot. I'm trying to save him some time by giving him insight into alternatives. If he asks what my alternatives do, I'll give him specific details so he can come up to a conclusion on his own.
Your speakers on your phone? Are you using your phone speakers to listen to music? I'm pretty sure the manufacturer is using the same speakers on all of our phones if we're all using the Sprint LGOG. Are you using the Sprint LGOG? That aside, you're most likely not going to get good music quality from the built in speakers regardless of what tweaks you do.
Although I did more research on the Beats audio mod after my post. It doesn't modify sound in the way I previously believed it did, but at the same time I don't know how it modifies sound, so I for now I'll withhold any thoughts on it since anything I say about it at this point will be opinionated. If it really did just throw in the Beats EQ signature system wide, then even if you think it sounds more clear, it wouldn't be more clear. Since it doesn't, I have no idea if what it does actually does improve sound quality anymore. Given Dr.Dre's previous track record with audio "enhancement," I'm skeptical to even give it a shot. If I learn what it actually does and how, I'd be able to provide better insight into it. I'll do my own individual tests on it after, but for now my focus is elsewhere.
See GPU won't change across the boards, that's invalid. Speakers on the other hand CAN sound different. My wife and I both had brand new iPhone 5's from sprint, my speaker sounded clearly better than hers. The point I'm making is there could be something physically wrong with his speaker because first, the sound quality on mine after using the Beats Mod (not the headphones) is clearly better. Comparing a piece of silicone (gpu) to a physical speaker is not a good comparison. The Adreno 320 are going to perform 99% the same on all the LG Optimus G phones, the speaker may vary upwards to 15-20% difference from what I've gathered by comparing a few of our phones.
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Regardless, we gave our advice for the OP and we should quit before this turns into a flame war. I recommended Beats because it didn't just add bass and you said to stay away from Beats because of their popularity and the fact that they are too marketed and overpriced (which has nothing to do with the mod). But goodluck OP and try a few different mods.
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the speaker may vary upwards to 15-20% difference from what I've gathered by comparing a few of our phones.
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I can't imagine what would cause such a discrepancy if LG is using the same hardware in all of their phones. The only thing I could think of would be physical damage to the speakers altering its sound performance. I don't see how comparing a GPU is too different. They're both physical parts manufactured with set specs. II doubt LG has a batch of different speakers they're using, or that their speakers are being made differently. I'd assume they're all uniformly assembled, with uniform parts.
If you're comparing headphones, you look at their specs just as you would for computer parts. A pair of Sony MDR-V6's should sound the same across the board unless you have a faulty pair. Any difference in sound between them would more than likely be caused by burn in rather than them simply sounding different despite being made of the same things using the same methods.
Regardless, you're most likely not going to get studio sound quality and clarity from the built in speakers anyway, so I was assuming OP was talking about making it sound better with headphones. Even if he is talking about the speakers, any changes with audio should affect the phone system-wide and be useful for both the built in speaker and external headphones.
I'm not trying to provoke a flame war, but I see nothing wrong with discussing the differences between audio modifications on the device. Debating =/= flaming, it's only flaming when the discussion devolves into what's essentially just a bunch of posters throwing ad hominems at each other.
Indeed it is up to OP to decide, but the best way to decide is to have more information.
Well I've given my personal advice. So good luck OP. Hopefully you don't have a borked speaker bud.
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With any audio mod, the output has to be tuned to the output device. You could have a $10K audio rig and if it's not tuned to your speakers or headset it can sound like junk. Even if it is tuned, your audio source has an affect on quality as well. Tuned $10k rig + 15kbps source = garbage.
Change the speakers/headset/source and the game starts all over again. This doesn't even take into consideration the environment or how everybody hears things differently. This still doesn't address that issue that not all devices reproduce sound the same and not all audio mods are created equal.
If I can find it, there was a write up where a Beats Audio phone was run through a spectrum analyzer. Straight from the jack or matching Beats headphones it looked good but try a set of Sennheiser headphones and garbage quality.
Which is why it would be better to have an audio mod where you can adjust and tweak things more to your liking. Using something that has a lot of options to tweak may be a little intimidating, but in the end it's the best way to get the most out of your sound experience. If you can find a spectrum analyzer that'd be great.
Edit: Looked it up more, it seems my initial assumptions were correct. Most sources are telling me "'Beats Audio' is a branded equalizer that boosts the bass, among other things."
Essentially this could be done with any EQ. If it's just their own bass heavy EQ thrown over, then that doesn't exactly boost clarity and may actually drown the sound in bass (listen to a nice piano piece with bass turned up and hear how muddy it gets). As of now I've only found one source that stated it does something different, but hasn't stated what exactly it does, while every other source points to it being a preset EQ.
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Wasshoi, you are correct. The beats audio software is no more than preset compression, eq, and delay. All these combined alter the source material. These same settings can be achieved through any audio manager if those settings are available and adjustable. However, beats claim that it will be heard "as the artist intended" is a complete farse. In order to listen to music as the artist intended you would need to utilize software that gave a completely flat frequency response with no compression or "widening" affect which is created by phase cancelation and stereo delays.
As Loki said above, even with a flat frequency response in a device, headphones also have hyped or altered frequency responses (usually show on higher end head phone packaging). So if you bump up 5k by 10db to compensate for insane amount of low end on your beats headphones and listen to the same track on a different pair of flat headphones. The second pair would sound thin and tinny as a result of the increases level of 5k not because of the lack of low end.
I really love Ac!d v5 because the noxide manger that is flashed allows you to mix the affected signal with the original using a parallel processing technique that gives you the best of both dry and affected signal. However, i was able to get the same results with beats mod that Loki included in imperium 2.0.1.
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I'm curious to know why they got rid of Dolby from ics to jb
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I'm curious to know why they got rid of Dolby from ics to jb
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Dolby is something they probably paid a licensing fee for. Just like Beats. Maybe the contract was up. That is just a wild guess though.
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I installed Jellylifeless ROM that came with Beats. The audio is 10X better than before. The boomy went away with Bluetooth streaming, though it seems to still be there with 3.5 audio jack. No matter. I use the Bluetooth audio streaming and am satisfied with the output. Much better than the S3 now.
Have to say that I was never a big fan of Beats Audio mods on the S3. But this one sounds great.
Thanks for the all advice.
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I installed Jellylifeless ROM that came with Beats. The audio is 10X better than before. The boomy went away with Bluetooth streaming, though it seems to still be there with 3.5 audio jack. No matter. I use the Bluetooth audio streaming and am satisfied with the output. Much better than the S3 now.
Have to say that I was never a big fan of Beats Audio mods on the S3. But this one sounds great.
Thanks for the all advice.
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lol im on lifeless n didnt even realize it! i have tried almost all audio mods on my sgs2 (before upgrading) and awesome beats/beats audio if n e thing made it slightly more clear (could be placebo effect) but second the person who mentioned nooz! its awesome. try it! and acid audio does have issues with certain devices.. and to the person that mentioned dolby.. its still lingering in some audio mod i cant remember right now. possibly sony xloud and clear audio soundmod with walkman player? could be wrong.. as far as without roit, i think there are a few (volume+) but they just make the phone sound louder by increasing volume but still stock sounding if not worse.. it does also depend in the audio file your listening to, your headphones or whatever your listening to it on and even the device itself
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