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Hi. Has anyone used headphone amplifiers with the SGS2? Has it improved sound quality? Not just volume as well. I'm considering buying the FiiO E5.
I actually have the E5 and it really does improve audio quality. I won't give you any of the linguistic crap that tells you nothing. Simply put, it makes the mid and high range more crisp and clear. It is espcially noticeable if you listen to female vocals. There is a super tiny amount of increased static with the amp on maximum volume, but you will not hear it unless you turn off all audio and really try hard to hear it in a quiet environment. As always, garbage in, garbage out. Take advantage of the phone's ability to play lossless FLAC.
I'm thinking about getting another E5 for my SGS2 since the one in this pic is effectively welded to my Sansa Fuze.
I got my E5 from dealextreme before and so far I've never been disappointed by anything I've bought from there. It's free international shipping so the price you see is what you pay.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fiio-e5-3-5mm-earphone-volume-booster-power-amplifier-black-18350
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Can it used with the headset ( ie. does the mic fn remain intact) ?
Yes. The amplifier has a 3.5mm input and output. The E5 also comes with 2 auxiliary cables so you don't need to buy additional cables.
Well unless the sgs2 gets some sort of line out output, whatever audio they comes out of it still has to be progressed through that crappy yamaha dac.
What we need is a line out adaptor if you truly want to make an amp worth its weight
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True say. I'm wondering if the HDMI out provides line out. I don't think an MHL adapter would work though. I've never seen micro USB to 3.5mm jack either. Then again, if you're really worried about audio quality then you wouldn't be using the phone as a quality music device anyway.
Jeremy said:
Well unless the sgs2 gets some sort of line out output, whatever audio they comes out of it still has to be progressed through that crappy yamaha dac.
What we need is a line out adaptor if you truly want to make an amp worth its weight
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Lol. Line-out bypasses the AMP section of the phone's SOC, meaning you will get output DIRECTLY from that "crappy" DAC.
Truth be known, someone needs to work on digital out, using that OTG port so we can use our OWN external DACs, but it seems that this might NOT be possible before Ice Cream comes along (usb audio).
widowmaker777 said:
I actually have the E5 and it really does improve audio quality. I won't give you any of the linguistic crap that tells you nothing. Simply put, it makes the mid and high range more crisp and clear. It is espcially noticeable if you listen to female vocals. There is a super tiny amount of increased static with the amp on maximum volume, but you will not hear it unless you turn off all audio and really try hard to hear it in a quiet environment. As always, garbage in, garbage out. Take advantage of the phone's ability to play lossless FLAC.
I'm thinking about getting another E5 for my SGS2 since the one in this pic is effectively welded to my Sansa Fuze.
I got my E5 from dealextreme before and so far I've never been disappointed by anything I've bought from there. It's free international shipping so the price you see is what you pay.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fiio-e5-3-5mm-earphone-volume-booster-power-amplifier-black-18350
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Sounds like it's worth the plunge. It's not a great cost anyway. I wonder how well it'd work with a phone though. Think the sound would vary depending on the device you're using. Hopefully they will make a USB solution like the poster above mentioned.
eiraku said:
Lol. Line-out bypasses the AMP section of the phone's SOC, meaning you will get output DIRECTLY from that "crappy" DAC.
Truth be known, someone needs to work on digital out, using that OTG port so we can use our OWN external DACs, but it seems that this might NOT be possible before Ice Cream comes along (usb audio).
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I would LOVE that, although I am satisfied with the SQ of Poweramp via my custom IEMs, I wouldn't mind hooking it up to an amp via line out, or digital out to my Alien DIY dac.
If only Samsung kept the Wolfson Dac on the S2... how dare they change it..
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I would LOVE that, although I am satisfied with the SQ of Poweramp via my custom IEMs, I wouldn't mind hooking it up to an amp via line out, or digital out to my Alien DIY dac.
If only Samsung kept the Wolfson Dac on the S2... how dare they change it..
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You know, if you've tried using the stock player, you'll find that it gives you way superior output than Poweramp. Unless you're using some $5 earbuds.
Heck, the difference is even audible on $5 earbuds, or even apple stock earbuds.
moooxooom said:
You know, if you've tried using the stock player, you'll find that it gives you way superior output than Poweramp. Unless you're using some $5 earbuds.
Heck, the difference is even audible on $5 earbuds, or even apple stock earbuds.
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But how do you get the stock player (I'm assuming your talking about the "Music" app?) to play ALL songs? I've got a few gigs worth of music and I want to get it to play them all in a random order but when I try to create a playlist of all of them I get told it can't add any more songs....?
And i'd love to find a way to boost the volume properly, I have the stock earbuds but with the Media volume up max I can't hear them very well over my exhaust Damn regulators, why do we have to live in a "Nanny state" world?
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But how do you get the stock player (I'm assuming your talking about the "Music" app?) to play ALL songs? I've got a few gigs worth of music and I want to get it to play them all in a random order but when I try to create a playlist of all of them I get told it can't add any more songs....?
And i'd love to find a way to boost the volume properly, I have the stock earbuds but with the Media volume up max I can't hear them very well over my exhaust Damn regulators, why do we have to live in a "Nanny state" world?
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volume + app
rab1412000 said:
volume + app
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Yup - tried some of those "boosting" apps and none have worked for me.
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Yup - tried some of those "boosting" apps and none have worked for me.
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volume + works perfectly for me at +3 and good quality equalizer.
has made a big difference for both stock (rock equalizer) and poweramp (smiley face equalizer setting).
do note there are seperate settings for headphones and phone speakers on volume +
as the guy above mentioned, the stock music player is quite good. poweramp beats it by a tad if you fiddle with settings, but really for something free you get good sound on the music player.
of course the first thing to do is get a good pair of iem's that are impedance matched to the sgs2. my woodees in-ear(16ohm) sound fabolous on my ipod but sound only average on my sgs2. but my koss portapros (60 ohm) sound great on my ipod(not as good as the woodees), but is excellent on my sgs2
Sorry, to didn't realise Volume+ was an app!! I thought you were being a bit of a muppet by saying use Volume and an App to boost heheh .... sorry! My mistake.
Just downloaded Volume+ and set the headphones to max and boosted to max, lots louder now and should do the trick!.... there is a down side to this though, I won't hear my exhaust popping and burbling on the overrun anymore
rab1412000 said:
volume + works perfectly for me at +3 and good quality equalizer.
has made a big difference for both stock (rock equalizer) and poweramp (smiley face equalizer setting).
do note there are seperate settings for headphones and phone speakers on volume +
as the guy above mentioned, the stock music player is quite good. poweramp beats it by a tad if you fiddle with settings, but really for something free you get good sound on the music player.
of course the first thing to do is get a good pair of iem's that are impedance matched to the sgs2. my woodees in-ear(16ohm) sound fabolous on my ipod but sound only average on my sgs2. but my koss portapros (60 ohm) sound great on my ipod(not as good as the woodees), but is excellent on my sgs2
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Sounds like a plan. Don't suppose you know the impedance of the SGS2?
Well I tried and Volume+ did nothing for me like all the other boosters. Maybe its my Litening v1.5 rom?
Guess I'll give up, at least i hear pops n gurgles and maybe the odd emergency siren as well!
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Sounds like a plan. Don't suppose you know the impedance of the SGS2?
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Sorry I don't. But it's a perfect match for my koss portapros, if that helps any
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Monty Burns said:
Well I tried and Volume+ did nothing for me like all the other boosters. Maybe its my Litening v1.5 rom?
Guess I'll give up, at least i hear pops n gurgles and maybe the odd emergency siren as well!
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Isn't there a much newer version of that rom
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Isn't there a much newer version of that rom
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Yup but i'm hesitant to change as it works perfectly for me and I can only guess that the volume is an issue of this ROM. I'll survive as I am and I'm sure the police would be happier about it
I don't know if you guys have noticed, but the audio through the headphone jack has massive noise. Its maddening when listening to music quietly. Worst I've ever heard on a portable device, although the audio quality is pretty decent. What we need to fix this is control over the headphone amplifier (voodoo sound offers this on other devices fingers crossed) to lower the level and reduce noise. SO my question is, does anyone know how to lower the headphone amplifier volume with a hack? We can also use this thread to beg supercurio to support our usa versions with voodoo sound
On a related note, if anyone wants to list what eq program they use that could be interesting. They all suck in my opinion. The one CM uses is pretty good, so I'm looking forward to that.
Edit: here is the answer to the problem. Lower the app volume using this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamkang.fauxsound
I was going to retire my nexus S with voodoo(and get the SG3-have the 32 GB pre order) until the info came out about the difference between the US version and International in regards to audio. Disturbing to learn about the hiss. The US version has basically the same hardware, audio wise as the HTC Evo LTE. Certainly nothing to brag about unless anyone has info to the contrary. Waiting for voodoo may be a long time.
My nexus S is absolutely quiet between tracks, no hiss, pops.
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I was going to retire my nexus S with voodoo(and get the SG3-have the 32 GB pre order) until the info came out about the difference between the US version and International in regards to audio. Disturbing to learn about the hiss. The US version has basically the same hardware, audio wise as the HTC Evo LTE. Certainly nothing to brag about unless anyone has info to the contrary. Waiting for voodoo may be a long time.
My nexus S is absolutely quiet between tracks, no hiss, pops.
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I know I had the nexus s too. I'm not exaggerating about the hiss. The amp is way too high. I think I'll see a significant improvement with reduced amp volume. Just need to figure out how.
HOXL isn't great in this area either.
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I would love it if this could be fixed. Its driving me ocd!
I installed AwesomeBeats and use my Beats Solo headphones and dont have that problem... not sure if my setup makes any difference though because i never use OEM headphones
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Indeed, I have the same problem on my unit and attribute it to the analog gain that is too high. I'm also looking for a way to turn down the headphone amplifier. Note that I also have an HTC One XL which uses the same audio hardware. On that phone, the amplifier isn't turned up as much (overall volume is lower), and the hiss is lower, though still perceptible.
However, I've found a thread with info that suggests that not all GS3 units exhibit this problem.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...sign-fault-audio-buzz-hiss-crackle-noise.html
Therefore I'm really curious: does anyone not hear noise/hiss at low volume levels?
Note that you will only hear the noise with ear buds or low-impedance headphones. Bigger headphones aren't sensitive enough.
I do not hear the noise you speak of on any of my headphones or earbuds.
I tried the stock music player and Power Amp. Power Amp is my main choice of listening to music. I also tried different EQ settings. Nothing.
i dont hear the hiss through my headphones but when I have it hooked up in my car through AUX, i get the hiss =/
Listen to a song that is very quiet, with lower impedance headphones (16 ohms). Classical music or music with areas that are bit more quiet will exhibit this. Also if you listen close, you can even hear the hiss/white noise when you push a capacitive button for a few seconds until they stop the lighting effect.
I think this problem exists on all phones, just some people cant hear it and some listen to their music at louder volumes. I have tested this across a few roms and players, it shows up on everything. I believe it is the amplifier inside this thing being cranked too loud as well.
onebelo said:
i dont hear the hiss through my headphones but when I have it hooked up in my car through AUX, i get the hiss =/
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By chance, do you have the phone plugged in when you get the hiss? And does the hiss only appear when nothing is playing? If it's plugged in to the car charger, try unplugging it and seeing if the hiss goes away. My phone makes all sorts of noise through aux when nothing is playing (like between podcasts or if I'm searching for a song). I noticed that if I unplug the charger, all the noise goes away.
Docks said:
Listen to a song that is very quiet, with lower impedance headphones (16 ohms). Classical music or music with areas that are bit more quiet will exhibit this. Also if you listen close, you can even hear the hiss/white noise when you push a capacitive button for a few seconds until they stop the lighting effect.
I think this problem exists on all phones, just some people cant hear it and some listen to their music at louder volumes. I have tested this across a few roms and players, it shows up on everything. I believe it is the amplifier inside this thing being cranked too loud as well.
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Yeah I'm a loud music listener. Will try with OEM earphones to see.
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people who say there's no hiss either have earbuds that rest outside the ear, or are deaf/dumb. There are no units that don't have the problem. If there is I'll eat my hat. We need to find a way to lower the analogue headphone volume. Supercurio is the only person capable, to my knowledge. He doesn't seem thrilled to try the US model. I feel like starting a bounty or something.
stonew5082 said:
people who say there's no hiss either have earbuds that rest outside the ear, or are deaf/dumb. There are no units that don't have the problem. If there is I'll eat my hat. We need to find a way to lower the analogue headphone volume. Supercurio is the only person capable, to my knowledge. He doesn't seem thrilled to try the US model. I feel like starting a bounty or something.
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Well I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I have a pair of Ultimate Ears $1,500 In Ear Monitors, and when listening to Flac, or streaming from Google Music, there is absolutely no noise more than any other phone. Listening to Jazz, Classical, Soul for the most part. Actually aside from iPhone (doesn't do Flac), my Verizon SGS3 performs much better (In the noise, and balance department) than any of my previous Android phones: Verizon or GSM Galaxy Nexus, HTC Rezound, AT&T's HTC One X to name a few.
HTC's One X actually blew up my right bass driver on my UE18's because of the retarded "Beats" moniker crappy EQ which I was very pissed about, and no one should be using EVER with a pair of good headphones... good thing I ended up getting IEM rebuilt for free by peeps at Ultimate Ears.
Moral of the story, you shouldn't be throwing the assumptions, you haven't tried the entire inventory of SGS3...
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I don't know if you guys have noticed, but the audio through the headphone jack has massive noise. Its maddening when listening to music quietly. Worst I've ever heard on a portable device, although the audio quality is pretty decent. What we need to fix this is control over the headphone amplifier (voodoo sound offers this on other devices fingers crossed) to lower the level and reduce noise. SO my question is, does anyone know how to lower the headphone amplifier volume with a hack? We can also use this thread to beg supercurio to support our usa versions with voodoo sound
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Been through 3 different android devices and countless headphones and I know exactly what you mean. This background noise is simply unbearable. Some people either don't mind or listen to volumes high enough to drown out the hiss. Personally, it is driving me nuts and I've tried everything I could to solve this problem and came to 2 solutions that will help you out.
1. Jack up phone's volume to max and use a passive dual potentiometer to lower volume back to desired level effectively lowering the background noise as well. At loud volumes the SNR is great so turning volume to max and then lowering it with an external device will lower the both the volume of music AND the background noise to exactly what you want, low volume music with great SNR. The only downside is you'll have to buy/build that external volume control device. I built mine from scratch and it looked something like: http://beavishifi.com/articles/Volume_Control/
2. Get an external DAC to effectively bypass phone's crappy audio DAC altogether. I bought a FiiO E7 external DAC and an OTG cable. SGS3 supports them both right out of the box. Fiio E7 is built around Wolfson WM8740 DAC and the sound quality it produces is simply mind blowing. At night, in a room with everything turned off, using in-ear (canal) headphones with all volumes set lowest and I still have to listen very hard in order to hear the background noise. And of course, the audio is crystal clear as well. If you care about audio quality, this will be the best $71 you'll ever spend.
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By chance, do you have the phone plugged in when you get the hiss? And does the hiss only appear when nothing is playing? If it's plugged in to the car charger, try unplugging it and seeing if the hiss goes away. My phone makes all sorts of noise through aux when nothing is playing (like between podcasts or if I'm searching for a song). I noticed that if I unplug the charger, all the noise goes away.
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Hmm you're right. I tested this morning on drive to work and only hear the loud hiss when charging cable is plugged in. Volume is lower though compared to playing from other sources (usb, sd) on my head unit. Seems like I have to up the volume by like +5 to get similar loudness.
I'll test it again with my car dock i have (Infuse 4g dock) and see if its similar. I'll also test with my old Evo and Zune player through AUX to hear hte sound difference.
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Well I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I have a pair of Ultimate Ears $1,500 In Ear Monitors, and when listening to Flac, or streaming from Google Music, there is absolutely no noise more than any other phone. Listening to Jazz, Classical, Soul for the most part. Actually aside from iPhone (doesn't do Flac), my Verizon SGS3 performs much better (In the noise, and balance department) than any of my previous Android phones: Verizon or GSM Galaxy Nexus, HTC Rezound, AT&T's HTC One X to name a few.
HTC's One X actually blew up my right bass driver on my UE18's because of the retarded "Beats" moniker crappy EQ which I was very pissed about, and no one should be using EVER with a pair of good headphones... good thing I ended up getting IEM rebuilt for free by peeps at Ultimate Ears.
Moral of the story, you shouldn't be throwing the assumptions, you haven't tried the entire inventory of SGS3...
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Well, you've made me second guess myself. But it just seems so unlikely. Maybe some units have a lower default amp volume? I hate you. :banghead:
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Been through 3 different android devices and countless headphones and I know exactly what you mean. This background noise is simply unbearable. Some people either don't mind or listen to volumes high enough to drown out the hiss. Personally, it is driving me nuts and I've tried everything I could to solve this problem and came to 2 solutions that will help you out.
1. Jack up phone's volume to max and use a passive dual potentiometer to lower volume back to desired level effectively lowering the background noise as well. At loud volumes the SNR is great so turning volume to max and then lowering it with an external device will lower the both the volume of music AND the background noise to exactly what you want, low volume music with great SNR. The only downside is you'll have to buy/build that external volume control device. I built mine from scratch and it looked something like: http://beavishifi.com/articles/Volume_Control/
2. Get an external DAC to effectively bypass phone's crappy audio DAC altogether. I bought a FiiO E7 external DAC and an OTG cable. SGS3 supports them both right out of the box. Fiio E7 is built around Wolfson WM8740 DAC and the sound quality it produces is simply mind blowing. At night, in a room with everything turned off, using in-ear (canal) headphones with all volumes set lowest and I still have to listen very hard in order to hear the background noise. And of course, the audio is crystal clear as well. If you care about audio quality, this will be the best $71 you'll ever spend.
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Thanks for the advice. Not sure it's worth it as I have a cowon j3 with a similar chip in it. What do you think? I like only carrying 1 device and listening to Pandora, that's why I don't usually carry the cowon. I use 1964 ears quads too. The device you made is intriguing.
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Anybody try this?
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I believe that will eliminate noise usually caused by unshielded wires and noisy power sources (such as crappy car chargers) but won't improve SGS3 DAC's SNR. I didn't actually experiment with one of those so I'm just speculating.
I really think to sell my HTC One X because the audio quality is awful especially on speaker. Yes thats right I'm audiophile and it sounds so compressed especially on higher volume. Its like limiting the sound with slow release and sounds like high-low-high-low every second plus bonus compression. I really hope it can be fixed with some mod otherwise I will just sell it and get galaxy s3 (yeah htc fans kill me but it sounds much better) puke for dr. Dre and his beats audio. Not to even mention that it makes the lossless music sound so much worse literally. Somebody else noticed my problem?
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Beats audio uses too much compression. Try disabling any audio enhancement and listen to your music as is.
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Beats audio can't be used on speaker.
You're talking about being an audiophile yet you're complaining about sound quality on an external speaker and not headphones? ._.
Check this out http://www.moonaudio.com/titan_spkr.htm
Yeah because I care about it too. On headphones is not much different even with beats disabled. I think it sounds the same with CM9 but I have to try again.
Edit: What you showed me is ridiculous. I have my own studio monitors and I can listen on them. But when I'm in the other room for example and don't have headphones it really sucks to listen to this bad audio.
The fact that HTC made such an expensive phone full of crap (not just the audio) is awful.
No audiophile will listen COMPRESSED music on SMARTPHONE
The best audio i was experiencing on mobile phone was on SGS1 with VooDoo sound mod.
HOX is kinda comparable.
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Yeah because I care about it too. On headphones is not much different even with beats disabled. I think it sounds the same with CM9 but I have to try again.
Edit: What you showed me is ridiculous. I have my own studio monitors and I can listen on them. But when I'm in the other room for example and don't have headphones it really sucks to listen to this bad audio.
The fact that HTC made such an expensive phone full of crap (not just the audio) is awful.
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Sell it and get another phone then...What's the point of making this thread? Unless you want to open it up and stick a better speaker in there and show us all how it's done? :3
i can bet he is not a one x owner just a troll. Come on buddy who cares listening to music through phone speaker mireover its not that cheap china phone with big speakers at back pumping music loud
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I sometimes wonder how people will say anything to hide a flaw with their phone. Why not just accept it, and let the OP know that he/she is not alone facing it... after that its on the individual whether he wants to live with it or go for a change!!
OP i agree with you, HOX has the worst speaker on any phone i have seen till date (forget about this being an expensive phone). Volume is too low for ringtone in noisy conditions and sound is so distorted that you'll never want to listen to music on it. That said, i think sound on earphones is quite decent and with good quality earphones and DSP manager it fares really well (at least to my ears).
Personally, i love various other features of HOX and ready to bear with the bad speakers on the phone. How important are speakers to you on a phone is for you to decide.
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I sometimes wonder how people will say anything to hide a flaw with their phone. Why not just accept it, and let the OP know that he/she is not alone facing it... after that its on the individual whether he wants to live with it or go for a change!!
OP i agree with you, HOX has the worst speaker on any phone i have seen till date (forget about this being an expensive phone). Volume is too low for ringtone in noisy conditions and sound is so distorted that you'll never want to listen to music on it. That said, i think sound on earphones is quite decent and with good quality earphones and DSP manager it fares really well (at least to my ears).
Personally, i love various other features of HOX and ready to bear with the bad speakers on the phone. How important are speakers to you on a phone is for you to decide.
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If you look around the soundboard folder you can edit and force srs processing on the speaker (disabled by default) did it on my phone at lower levels its better but maxed out you can here it distorts, you can edit the gain and other eq settings not looked to much no computer while im looking for a house :/
@op
if you root you can use dspmanager just the compression doesn't work but not like that's wanted but I'm looking into that. if you're not you can install the apk but you can't use custom eq but the defaults work just fine.
You should give it a go.
But the speaker is loud to me just not the best sounding.
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I sometimes wonder how people will say anything to hide a flaw with their phone. Why not just accept it, and let the OP know that he/she is not alone facing it... after that its on the individual whether he wants to live with it or go for a change!!
OP i agree with you, HOX has the worst speaker on any phone i have seen till date (forget about this being an expensive phone). Volume is too low for ringtone in noisy conditions and sound is so distorted that you'll never want to listen to music on it. That said, i think sound on earphones is quite decent and with good quality earphones and DSP manager it fares really well (at least to my ears).
Personally, i love various other features of HOX and ready to bear with the bad speakers on the phone. How important are speakers to you on a phone is for you to decide.
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Well I did a side by side comparison with my desires, and It's a ten fold improvement. Couldn't even hear the desires, just a tinny wasp sound. This speaker actually has bass (relative ) and some mid range.
But yes, It's a phone, no audiophile would give it the time of day, especially the speaker lol..
Also it depends on how compressed the track is when they mixed it down. Rip your tracks from audiophile vinyl as flac, get some £200 headphones, then see what it sounds like. That's the only way to get a real feel for its capabilities as a music player.
@Op,
Yes it hurts my eyes too. :cyclops:
hapticc said:
i can bet he is not a one x owner just a troll. Come on buddy who cares listening to music through phone speaker mireover its not that cheap china phone with big speakers at back pumping music loud
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agreed..dont feed the troll..even if every single inch of you begs you to..it will irritate them more..
@Op
While not as good of a device, you should look at the GS3 for its Wolfson Audio chipset. If you're like me and listen to everything in lossless on your home computer, then here's what I recommend.
#1: Turn off Beats Audio
#2: Use PowerAmp
#3: Just put the raw flac files on your phone. MP3 shouldn't even be in your vocabulary.
#4: I recommend moving over to head-fi.org and finding a good set of earbuds. I listen to my HOX over Bluetooth (aptX allows for lossless send over stereo) or using my Sennheiser 650s.
The Bluetooth stack is pretty terrible in Android, but that's hardly the fault of htc. Tegra3 isn't a great choice for audio. See here:
Dynamic range comparison (less is worse):
HTC One X (T3): 80.6dB
iPhone 4S: 91.3dB
HTC One S (S4): 90.6dB
Galaxy S III: 90.2dB
Galaxy S II: 90.2dB
Galaxy S: 90.6dB
Nexus One: 85.8dB
IMD+ noise comparison (more is worse):
HTC One X (T3): .459
iPhone 4S: .071
HTC One S (S4): .065
Galaxy S III: .090
Galaxy S II: .647
Galaxy S: .329
Nexus One: .088
All of that said, I'd still rather have the HOX over the S3.
Is everyone talking about the in-built external speaker? I'm far from an audiophile but listening to anything from any phone's in-built speaker is a painful exercise.
I got one of these primarily because of its portability. It sounds amazingly good. I’m probably going to get a second one because when used in pairs they playback in stereo.
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I have a pair of Shure 530's which are considered decent headphones. I got a chance to play with a DoCoMo SGS3 which has the Qualcomm DAC and I owned a i9100 which had the Yamaha DAC. I'd rate the phones in the following order:
1) One X
2) SGS3
3) SGS2
The Samsung phones are brighter, more so the SGS3, but the One X has far better separation and range. And on decent headphones the Beats enhancements are god awful. The best setting is “none” or for vocals “treble boost.” At least in my opinion. Anyone using A2DP should skip Samsung phones entirely. With my i9100 I thought BT was responsible for making my music sound like an XM broadcast. The One X is exceptional at A2DP and in a different league than the two Samsung phones I have experience with. The international SGS3 may be different because I haven't used one yet.
True audiophiles who are buying a phone specifically for high quality audio output should only be buying the SGS3 international version. Not only because of the Wolfson DAC but because supercurio has signed on to create his Voodoo apps for it.
definiteform said:
@Op
While not as good of a device, you should look at the GS3 for its Wolfson Audio chipset. If you're like me and listen to everything in lossless on your home computer, then here's what I recommend.
#1: Turn off Beats Audio
#2: Use PowerAmp
#3: Just put the raw flac files on your phone. MP3 shouldn't even be in your vocabulary.
#4: I recommend moving over to head-fi.org and finding a good set of earbuds. I listen to my HOX over Bluetooth (aptX allows for lossless send over stereo) or using my Sennheiser 650s.
The Bluetooth stack is pretty terrible in Android, but that's hardly the fault of htc. Tegra3 isn't a great choice for audio. See here:
Dynamic range comparison (less is worse):
HTC One X (T3): 80.6dB
iPhone 4S: 91.3dB
HTC One S (S4): 90.6dB
Galaxy S III: 90.2dB
Galaxy S II: 90.2dB
Galaxy S: 90.6dB
Nexus One: 85.8dB
IMD+ noise comparison (more is worse):
HTC One X (T3): .459
iPhone 4S: .071
HTC One S (S4): .065
Galaxy S III: .090
Galaxy S II: .647
Galaxy S: .329
Nexus One: .088
All of that said, I'd still rather have the HOX over the S3.
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You can edit the compression level the codes is this in default global
srs_wowhd_0:wowhd_trubass_compressor =0.250// TruBass Compressor - control
There are different settings for different devices and things the file is etc/soundimage/ srs_global.cfg, remember to change srs_route_out:speaker to 1 to force srs if you guys fancy testing stuff I really don't have time.
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Mine sounds awesome on my beat headphones I got free, better than my senheissers I used on my S2.
Then again I know A. how to keep my ears clean, and B. How to wear headphones...
The amount of people who are "Audiophiles" but dont know how to do the above is rediculous.
Also an audiophile never listens to music on a phone, I use my Yamaha amplifier and Mission speakers, or in the car the Bose setup.... for christ sake its a phone not an amp....
Haha.. well said.
I think it must be a kind of masochisme as 'audiophile' listening to a phone's external speaker. :laugh:
BarryH_GEG said:
Is everyone talking about the in-built external speaker? I'm far from an audiophile but listening to anything from any phone's in-built speaker is a painful exercise.
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Ffs just dl poweramp, disable beats audio and adjust it to your liking. One x audio is awesome, I don't care what anyone says, I'm no audiophile, but I go through my Cyrus setup which includes two psx and Russ Andrews powerblock so my hifi cost was a little over 5k (good but not hi end), the one x was a revelation. It sounds better than my gfs iphone.
Please get poweramp, its even been specifically optimized for one x now. You'll change your mind.
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Ffs just dl poweramp, disable beats audio and adjust it to your liking. One x audio is awesome, I don't care what anyone says, I'm no audiophile, but I go through my Cyrus setup which includes two psx and Russ Andrews powerblock so my hifi cost was a little over 5k (good but not hi end), the one x was a revelation. It sounds better than my gfs iphone.
Please get poweramp, its even been specifically optimized for one x now. You'll change your mind.
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Thanks for the poweramp tip.
Massive improvement that exceeded my expectations. Wow.
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We all know the sound quality is horrendous and I'm sure no one will disagree.
Please note these mods are intended to improve quality and loudness in music. There should absolutely be no distortion, if there is your listening to the music way too high. Its suppose to be crisp and clear and give you perfect quality for what the device can possibly handle. Because the nexus audio is crippled, it still won't sound amazing as some other devices but keep in mind phones aren't suppose to be walking studios.
Well I got the nexus yesterday and rooted it today.
Messed with a ROM And kept it, then decided to start testing the audio. On my droid incredible I could make my music sound like a small studio..
It was great and was hoping for a better quality on the nexus :sly:
So this is what I suggest - "Make a NANDROID"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I nor anyone involved in making these are not responsible for what you do to your device. Even if it makes your cat into a killer ninja while optimus prime blows Saddam Hussain's head to bits.
THESE MODS WERE USED ON 13$ HEADPHONES! So the quality should be exceptionally better on better Headphones.
Install Instructions
1.) Reboot into Recovery or from Fast boot
2.) Find the Audio Mod - .Zip files I've given you
3.) Flash .Zip files, XSincrediblebass uses AROMA, follow aroma instructions
4.) Wait for flash to complete, reboot
5.) Profit?!
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If you're using CWM Stock "Volume buttons+Power" it can be used in Aroma I am on stock CWM.
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These files are by choice -
https://www.box.com/shared/e2b63c139422829334eb
1.) SRS Panel - A modded Equalizer originally made for ICS, works extremely well with XSincrediblebass.
2.) XSincrediblebass AROMA INSTALLER - Two Options once flashed in CWM or the recovery of your choice.
- 1.) Xperia S, install options 2&3. Finish and reboot.
- 2.) Xperia 2011, install options 2&3. Finish and reboot.
3.) Beats Audio08/23 N!K - Install VIA Recovery, overall new lib library - took out useless files and added extras I.e. Dolby Digital. (NEW)
I highly recommend using Xperia 2011, this audio library mod plays well with Nexus Audio/Speaker.
I now recommend Beats Audio 08/23 as its taken the Xperia libs route and can be turned up high enough without distortion while giving full bass.
I still fully recommend xperia 2011.
Install whatever free will, NOTE these have been tested and work.
Unfortunately we cannot get all the bass but most of it is there..
Right now the sound quality is 50x better.
If everything is done correct you'll have this
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To get the best Quality I recommend -
1.) Soundbest Music Player
2.) Neutron Music Player
3.) XenoAmp
4.) Poweramp :thumbdown:
5.) User Appreciated just choose the one you normally use
AND... For Equalizers -
1.) SRS Panel
2.) Audio FX
3.) Audio Master Pro
4.) Media Volume Equalizer
5.) User Defined, use your preferred equalizer.
Hope you all enjoy this, please tell me your experience!
Here is RockoDev thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226 Beats Audio Mod
Here is Xincrediblebass thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609868 HIGHLY recommended.
Here is XenoAmp - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822492 a fantastic music app gaining fame with its simplistic design and features. HIGHLY recommended.
Better control over sound quality
Install either kernel as each seems to work the same -
Glados - https://play.google.com/store/apps...ium=organic&utm_term=glados+control+playstore
Trinity - https://play.google.com/store/apps...tm_medium=organic&utm_term=trinity+play+store
Franco - https://play.google.com/store/apps...utm_medium=organic&utm_term=franco+play+store
Each hold a specific key to increase the volume and increase clarity.
In order to Harold these options you need to buy the apps that will allow full control of various options.
Inside you will find Sound increase and Performance Clarity, set sound increase to 2 and turn on Clarity.
This greatly makes your phone louder and better sounding, clearer.
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Lol Whitechapel hahaha.
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ÜBER™ said:
Lol Whitechapel hahaha.
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I got a variety of music, this album had two songs I enjoyed.
1,592 songs full of Death/Medolic/Power/Black/Death core Metal and Hip-Hop/Rap.
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withbloodskies said:
I got a variety of music, this album had two songs I enjoyed.
1,592 songs full of Death/Medolic/Power/Black/Death core Metal and Hip-Hop/Rap.
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Just not my cup of tea. Gets repetitive and blast beats are the norm. And just about everyone and their mother is making a "death core" band. Only one I truly liked was Carnifex. I personally only really enjoy and listen to metal and metal core. August burns red, After the burial, parkway drive, etc. anyways. I just lol'd because just about every scene fag listens to Whitechapel and the only two songs they like are This exile song and no pity for a coward .
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Just not my cup of tea. Gets repetitive and blast beats are the norm. And just about everyone and their mother is making a "death core" band. Only one I truly liked was Carnifex. I personally only really enjoy and listen to metal and metal core. August burns red, After the burial, parkway drive, etc. anyways. I just lol'd because just about every scene fag listens to Whitechapel and the only two songs they like are This exile song and no pity for a coward .
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Its what came on
I'm talking about Prostatic Fluid Asyphxiation and Messiahbolical.
Meh.. those bands aren't great. Listen to Into Eternity, A Perfect Circle, tool, Salt The Wound, Animals As Leaders, Born of Osiris, Winds of Plague and much much more.
Just to clarify, I'm not scene and I despise them.
The bands you listed are heavily in scene.
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withbloodskies said:
Its what came on
I'm talking about Prostatic Fluid Asyphxiation and Messiahbolical.
Meh.. those bands aren't great. Listen to Into Eternity, A Perfect Circle, tool, Salt The Wound, Animals As Leaders, Born of Osiris, Winds of Plague and much much more.
Just to clarify, I'm not scene and I despise them.
The bands you listed are heavily in scene.
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Born if Osiris.
Animals as leaders (Tosin Abasi is amazing)
Winds of Plague? :what: LOL
I don't like the entire death core or death metal genre, just choose and pick.
I wasn't calling you scene. And unfortunetly yes I know... but I could care less who else listens to them.
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ÜBER™ said:
Born if Osiris.
Animals as leaders (Tosin Abasi is amazing)
Winds of Plague? :what: LOL
I don't like the entire death core or death metal genre, just choose and pick.
I wasn't calling you scene. And unfortunetly yes I know... but I could care less who else listens to them.
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How are you forgetting the band that started most of what you listed...Meshuggah
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Mattymat said:
How are you forgetting the band that started most of what you listed...Meshuggah
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Because I don't go back to the roots of my music.
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The galaxy nexus sound quality is years ahead of my nexus one.
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ÜBER™ said:
Because I don't go back to the roots of my music.
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Love the classics, 80' hair metal bands. Listen to Steel Panther lol..
90's is when I was born and grew up to classic metal and pop/rock.
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Updated OP on better sound.
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Bump, letting more people know.
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Not to sound like a wiseass, but what exactly do these tweaks do? One seems to only boost the bass, which you could do by dropping the preamp a bit and EQing in more bass in a music player app. Enabling Bass Boost and 3D effect is a highly subjective change, one that can hardly be considered to improve "quality". It can add some spatial stereo presence, but it will also mask some of the original sound since you are essentially adding artificial or processed material, or changing the relationship between stereo and centered material. At best you are masking deficiencies by making the original signal a lesser part of the output, and this still means that the processed material added is output by the same system, so it will have the same deficiencies as the original signal might have.
Not to mention bass-boosting a pair of already bass-strong headphones will lead to overpowering of other frequencies, leading to a mess.
This thread could in my opinion at best be called "how to make headphones with weak bass and poor stereo imaging properties potentially sound better", or "my settings I prefer for specific headphone make/model X". Obviously if these settings are applied to headphones that are already at their limits, boosting bass further through EQ could make them physically distort, which would make your tips quite the opposite of an improvement.
The only thing I would consider an objective improvement in what you mention is the Kernel clarity options, which changes the power mode of the sound chip. Though from previous posts, this seems to only provide a dB or 2 more of dynamic range, and not audibly change much else in the audio reproduction;
From the TI documentation: "The stereo headphone path has a low-power (LP) mode operating from a 32-kHz sleep clock to enable more
than 100 hours of MP3 playback time. Very-high dynamic range of 104 dBA is achieved when using the system
clock input and DAC path high-performance (HP) mode."
You're right about the sound being subjective. As far as my subjective needs go, I mostly listen to my music in my car and am very particular about how it sounds, especially clarity being at the fore front. The difference between headphones and car speakers are night and day, and for some people, they prefer that bass thump over everything else.
It would be great if from the board up, they could implement whatever tweaks necessary to make the sound processor be capable of clear sound output without the need for 3rd party fixes.
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TechNoir said:
Not to sound like a wiseass, but what exactly do these tweaks do? One seems to only boost the bass, which you could do by dropping the preamp a bit and EQing in more bass in a music player app. Enabling Bass Boost and 3D effect is a highly subjective change, one that can hardly be considered to improve "quality". It can add some spatial stereo presence, but it will also mask some of the original sound since you are essentially adding artificial or processed material, or changing the relationship between stereo and centered material. At best you are masking deficiencies by making the original signal a lesser part of the output, and this still means that the processed material added is output by the same system, so it will have the same deficiencies as the original signal might have.
Not to mention bass-boosting a pair of already bass-strong headphones will lead to overpowering of other frequencies, leading to a mess.
This thread could in my opinion at best be called "how to make headphones with weak bass and poor stereo imaging properties potentially sound better", or "my settings I prefer for specific headphone make/model X". Obviously if these settings are applied to headphones that are already at their limits, boosting bass further through EQ could make them physically distort, which would make your tips quite the opposite of an improvement.
The only thing I would consider an objective improvement in what you mention is the Kernel clarity options, which changes the power mode of the sound chip. Though from previous posts, this seems to only provide a dB or 2 more of dynamic range, and not audibly change much else in the audio reproduction;
From the TI documentation: "The stereo headphone path has a low-power (LP) mode operating from a 32-kHz sleep clock to enable more
than 100 hours of MP3 playback time. Very-high dynamic range of 104 dBA is achieved when using the system
clock input and DAC path high-performance (HP) mode."
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Modifying audio libs, each ROM is normally packed with the default audio lib hub.
These also sound great on speaker, although better on headphones.. the goal most people look for are higher sound with a peak clarity of performance and this does the trick. It makes your nexus sound 50x better. You don't need to be a believer but I used these on my incredible and they were great, it works just as well on the nexus.
Go ahead try it out?
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withbloodskies said:
Modifying audio libs, each ROM is normally packed with the default audio lib hub.
These also sound great on speaker, although better on headphones.. the goal most people look for are higher sound with a peak clarity of performance and this does the trick. It makes your nexus sound 50x better. You don't need to be a believer but I used these on my incredible and they were great, it works just as well on the nexus.
Go ahead try it out?
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I am open to trying it. Disregarding any EQ-only changes (bass boosting) or synthetic changes like 3d or stereo modulation, which mods do you feel improve clarity, that is, doesn't only change the EQ or frequency response, but acts on the details in the sound to improve audio output. I'd be very interested in comparing those and see the results.
TechNoir said:
I am open to trying it. Disregarding any EQ-only changes (bass boosting) or synthetic changes like 3d or stereo modulation, which mods do you feel improve clarity, that is, doesn't only change the EQ or frequency response, but acts on the details in the sound to improve audio output. I'd be very interested in comparing those and see the results.
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Well assuming you want to try the speaker.. the best I'd say is beats07-31, its decent speaker quality, I may have boasted a little much because I didn't clearly examine the nexus speaker in particular. You might notice the beats lay flat on the speaker but you'll hear it. Slightly louder not by much, little clearer. In headphones the bass is kinda muddy, I recommend xincrediblebass for headphones. Its okay on the speaker but dominates the headphones in overall clarity and clearness. Although its recommended to use SRS Panel with xincrediblebass as the two go together. It works with beats07-31 but isn't the best. It flashes in cwm fine, one is aroma - click xperia s enable all but DSP.
Edit: just did a test, scratch the first install "xperia s" install xperia 2011(?) Install the same two. Extremely louder and clearer, it plays better with the nexus device than the xperia s version. Vise versa it works better on my DInc then the xperia 2011(?) Version.
I am boasting this increases the speaker a lot, I heard a ton of clarity.
Distortion if the volume is raised way too high.
Edit 2: this was on stock kernel faux- no other mods etc. Only installed the afore mentioned audio library mod, works extremely well and better with SRS.
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1
withbloodskies said:
Well assuming you want to try the speaker.. the best I'd say is beats07-31, its decent speaker quality, I may have boasted a little much because I didn't clearly examine the nexus speaker in particular. You might notice the beats lay flat on the speaker but you'll hear it. Slightly louder not by much, little clearer. In headphones the bass is kinda muddy, I recommend xincrediblebass for headphones. Its okay on the speaker but dominates the headphones in overall clarity and clearness. Although its recommended to use SRS Panel with xincrediblebass as the two go together. It works with beats07-31 but isn't the best. It flashes in cwm fine, one is aroma - click xperia s enable all but DSP.
Edit: just did a test, scratch the first install "xperia s" install xperia 2011(?) Install the same two. Extremely louder and clearer, it plays better with the nexus device than the xperia s version. Vise versa it works better on my DInc then the xperia 2011(?) Version.
I am boasting this increases the speaker a lot, I heard a ton of clarity.
Distortion if the volume is raised way too high.
Edit 2: this was on stock kernel faux- no other mods etc. Only installed the afore mentioned audio library mod, works extremely well and better with SRS.
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I see, thanks alot for the info. The speaker I'm not that worried about, it's a bit shrill but I never use it. Which mod works best for the 3.5mm output in your opinion?
TechNoir said:
I see, thanks alot for the info. The speaker I'm not that worried about, it's a bit shrill but I never use it. Which mod works best for the 3.5mm output in your opinion?
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Well since I just dabbled on a new audio library, I'd have to say Xincrediblebass -
Install ------
CWM
Aroma
then choose xperia 2011" click both options other than DSP.
Install the srs panel after cwm or before, it can be used in Google Play Music, Semc, Apollo and I believe stock Gingerbread Music player.
Possibly more but I haven't looked. Google Play Music enables the audio effects in SRS panel on the fly "active".
In Apollo or Semc you have to pause, and exit the app and re-enter to enable SRS panel effects. Google you do not need to do this, although it seems the settings don't stick sometimes.. I'm looking into this.
So basically everything at my Edit line and below is what I officially support. I just found out about this myself so I am fully behind Xincrediblebass "Xperia 2011" S is lower and mainly for Xperia devices. This wasn't performing well on the nexus. Glad I tested the "Xperia 2011" library.
You don't need SRS panel but its highly recommended as the two mods go hand in hand. Other equalizers work with it too, assuming you wanted to connect this to your car.. it will probably work great!
I'll edit the OP later when I wake up etc.
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it was only after ordering that I realised these things can come with a DAC chip inside.
this is the one I ordered
iNassen USB C to 3.5mm Jack Headphone Adapter Type C to 3.5mm Aux Earphone Audio Mic Adapter, for Huawei P40/Mate30/30Pro,Samsung Galaxy Note20/20 Ultra 5G/S20/S20 Plus/Note 10,Google Pixel 4XL-Gray: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Shop iNassen USB C to 3.5mm Jack Headphone Adapter Type C to 3.5mm Aux Earphone Audio Mic Adapter, for Huawei P40/Mate30/30Pro,Samsung Galaxy Note20/20 Ultra 5G/S20/S20 Plus/Note 10,Google Pixel 4XL-Gray. Free delivery and returns on eligible orders.
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since quite a few of us are likely to buy one it might help others out if you've found one you think is a real winner.
when mine arrives I'll report back on what I think, but I'm also curious how good they'll be ultimately with v4a!
also whether having a DAC chip will affect the VDC support for headphones.
please share what you've got and what you think.
3mel said:
it was only after ordering that I realised these things can come with a DAC chip inside.
this is the one I ordered
iNassen USB C to 3.5mm Jack Headphone Adapter Type C to 3.5mm Aux Earphone Audio Mic Adapter, for Huawei P40/Mate30/30Pro,Samsung Galaxy Note20/20 Ultra 5G/S20/S20 Plus/Note 10,Google Pixel 4XL-Gray: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Shop iNassen USB C to 3.5mm Jack Headphone Adapter Type C to 3.5mm Aux Earphone Audio Mic Adapter, for Huawei P40/Mate30/30Pro,Samsung Galaxy Note20/20 Ultra 5G/S20/S20 Plus/Note 10,Google Pixel 4XL-Gray. Free delivery and returns on eligible orders.
www.amazon.co.uk
since quite a few of us are likely to buy one it might help others out if you've found one you think is a real winner.
when mine arrives I'll report back on what I think, but I'm also curious how good they'll be ultimately with v4a!
also whether having a DAC chip will affect the VDC support for headphones.
please share what you've got and what you think.
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I have 2 different ones. One I bought when I got my Tablet S5E:
Amazon.com: andobil USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Charge Adapter, Hi-Res USB C to Auxiliary Audio Dongle with DAC Chip, Support Phone Calls, and Music Control Compatible with Google Pixel 2 2XL 3 3XL,and More : Electronics
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And one I bought when I got my Note 10+:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KXPMF1T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_C92M40AM2FNJ2H8AYV0X?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
The only difference between the 2 is one has 2 usb-c and the other has a 3.5 mm jack.
Both are interchangeable in both devices and work great.
hmm I just went for the straight 3.5mm jack on its own. I saw myself using it outside more (whenever that happens again) so never considered charging too. do you have headphones with a USB-c cable on them ?
3mel said:
hmm I just went for the straight 3.5mm jack on its own. I saw myself using it outside more (whenever that happens again) so never considered charging too. do you have headphones with a USB-c cable on them ?
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Yes, they came with my Note. The Note doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack for a headset. Like my tablet, the charging port doubles as the headset jack also. Realizing that this cenario could potentially cause an issue if I Iistened to music for too long, I researched if there was a combo headset/charging adapter and there was.
the adaptor mentioned in my first post really delivers the bass. can't say if it's the chip inside (mediatek) or not because I've got nothing else to compare it to. my headphones (Sony MDR-V55) can handle bass but they're not really tuned that way.
3mel said:
the adaptor mentioned in my first post really delivers the bass. can't say if it's the chip inside (mediatek) or not because I've got nothing else to compare it to. my headphones (Sony MDR-V55) can handle bass but they're not really tuned that way.
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The ideal DAC should have a flat curve ie true to the input values.
The only one I've tried is the Samsung one.
Because of it being tied to the C port I rarely use it.
Recent firmware upgrades for the Buds+ make them sound much better. Low bass on them starts at 27 hz and 35 hz has a noticeable presence. So I stick with the Buds+ for convenience and to avoid the C port inconvenience.
Stupid Samsung...
I too chose to get buds but decided against Samsung's on the mere principle that at the time they weren't the slightest bit waterproof, not even sweatproof. Why is that a big deal you ask? First, no, I'm not going to wear them in the shower or go swimming with them, although they do make ones that you can do that with. Second, I do live in Florida the state known for high humidity and enormous amounts of rain. I have been screwed by the "your phone has water damage" clause several times when my phone has never seen a drop all because of a stupid little sticker due to humidity (no not cause I sweat like crazy, lol) So, I went with the Jabra Elite Active 75t which are similar to the Samsung buds pro but $70 less, are water & dust resistant, they have ANC and pass through, 4 microphones, 28 hours of battery life, wireless charging, and while the Samsung rating is IPX 7 the Jabra is IP57. They have a built in EQ. You can custom set them to your specific hearing ability, like a hearing test, going through a series of beeps, to get optimum sound quality. They have a GPS locator so if you set them down and forget where, pull the app up on you cell and find them. They have a focus mode to play ambient sounds in the background. Don't get me wrong, I am a Samsung die hard through and through, but these Jabra buds beat Samsung hands down. Just my 1/2 cents.
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I too chose to get buds but decided against Samsung's on the mere principle that at the time they weren't the slightest bit waterproof, not even sweatproof. Why is that a big deal you ask? First, no, I'm not going to wear them in the shower or go swimming with them, although they do make ones that you can do that with. Second, I do live in Florida the state known for high humidity and enormous amounts of rain. I have been screwed by the "your phone has water damage" clause several times when my phone has never seen a drop all because of a stupid little sticker due to humidity (no not cause I sweat like crazy, lol) So, I went with the Jabra Elite Active 75t which are similar to the Samsung buds pro but $70 less, are water & dust resistant, they have ANC and pass through, 4 microphones, 28 hours of battery life, wireless charging, and while the Samsung rating is IPX 7 the Jabra is IP57. They have a built in EQ. You can custom set them to your specific hearing ability, like a hearing test, going through a series of beeps, to get optimum sound quality. They have a GPS locator so if you set them down and forget where, pull the app up on you cell and find them. They have a focus mode to play ambient sounds in the background. Don't get me wrong, I am a Samsung die hard through and through, but these Jabra buds beat Samsung hands down. Just my 1/2 cents.
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Never had a water issue with the Buds+... I live in the desert but it's a dry heat.
The problem about not using them is you lose SSC support. A LDAC supporting device is the only other option or your stuck with inferior bt codecs.
LDAC and SSC are on the top of the bt codec heap.
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Never had a water issue with the Buds+... I live in the desert but it's a dry heat.
The problem about not using them is you lose SSC support. A LDAC supporting device is the only other option or your stuck with inferior bt codecs.
LDAC and SSC are on the top of the bt codec heap.
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I have to admit I didn't know much about bluetooth codec codes until today. Your post prompted me to do research which threw me into a 3 hour wild goose chase. I finally found this chart that simplified it for me:
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Because you mentioned the code SSC. I opened my Developer settings and I don't have that option. So, I had to learn more. The aptX HD is at the top of the food chain. Unfortunately, Jabra made a conscious decision not to incorporate that code in their buds. Not sure why? Here is a website where you can look up a full list of products that do Products | aptX
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I have to admit I didn't know much about bluetooth codec codes until today. Your post prompted me to do research which threw me into a 3 hour wild goose chase. I finally found this chart that simplified it for me:
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Because you mentioned the code SSC. I opened my Developer settings and I don't have that option. So, I had to learn more. The aptX HD is at the top of the food chain. Unfortunately, Jabra made a conscious decision not to incorporate that code in their buds. Not sure why? Here is a website where you can look up a full list of products that do Products | aptX
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Unfortunately it's not that simple. Maximum bitrate doesn't necessarily mean overall better sound Q. SoundGuys have a pretty good write up.
AptX-HD has issues as well.
All bt codecs suffer to some degree*. The best ones for Samsung devices are SSC and LDAC.
Samsung's propiatory SSC is found only on its phones and a limited number of it's audio listening products, 5 total I believe.
Samsung also supports LDAC but depending on the bitrates as well as which codec is better makes comparisons almost impossible.
The listening devices supporting LDAC are limited as well but greater in number. Panasonic makes a few and of course Sony.
I haven't sample any LDAC headsets and only sampled the Buds and Buds+ so can't comment on that or which codec sounds better.
Of the other codecs available on the 10+ which are the same as all current models, SSC is the best.
No bt codec sounds better than a wired headset though, hardware not withstanding*.
With the Buds+ the low bass cutout is at 27 hz and 35 hz it's solid; probably about were it starts to roll off. That's pretty good.
For music listening I use Poweramp's equalizer and the bass from 250 hz down is heavily boosted. I never use the Wearables EQ but without Poweramp music listening be a lot less enjoyable. Vocals on music are surprisingly clear.
Guess it's time to compare the original Buds to the Buds+ but once I tried the +'s I didn't look back. Both have had major firmware updates, the most recent + updates was about a week ago.
The Buds+ are light and even partially inserted they simply never fall out. You can run, jump whatever, they stay put. Seamlessly couple with Samsung phones. Sound great on calls. Great battery life.
A lot of bang for the buck.
The Buds+ are the best bet for bt listening on a Samsung phone. An odd niche that Samsung has curved out for themselves.
For $270 more you could upgrade to Sony's best LDAC headphones. The drivers are certainly better but that's a steep price and lost is the ease of wear. Be fun to hear what's is or isn't there though
So now you know, in part, why bt audio gives me a headache
*all bt sucks, lol
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Unfortunately it's not that simple. Maximum bitrate doesn't necessarily mean overall better sound Q. SoundGuys have a pretty good write up.
AptX-HD has issues as well.
All bt codecs suffer to some degree*. The best ones for Samsung devices are SSC and LDAC.
Samsung's propiatory SSC is found only on its phones and a limited number of it's audio listening products, 5 total I believe.
Samsung also supports LDAC but depending on the bitrates as well as which codec is better makes comparisons almost impossible.
The listening devices supporting LDAC are limited as well but greater in number. Panasonic makes a few and of course Sony.
I haven't sample any LDAC headsets and only sampled the Buds and Buds+ so can't comment on that or which codec sounds better.
Of the other codecs available on the 10+ which are the same as all current models, SSC is the best.
No bt codec sounds better than a wired headset though, hardware not withstanding*.
With the Buds+ the low bass cutout is at 27 hz and 35 hz it's solid; probably about were it starts to roll off. That's pretty good. For music listening I use Poweramp's equalizer and the bass from 250 hz down is heavily boosted. I never use the Wearables EQ but without Poweramp music listening be a lot less enjoyable. Vocals on music are surprisingly clear.
They're light and even partially inserted they simply never fall out. You can run, jump whatever, they stay put. Seamlessly couple with Samsung phones. Sound great on calls. Great battery life.
A lot of bang for the buck.
The Buds+ are the best bet for bt listening on a Samsung phone. An odd niche that Samsung has curved out for themselves.
For $270 more you could upgrade to Sony's best LDAC headphones. The drivers are certainly better but that's a steep price and lost is the ease of wear. Be fun to hear what's is or isn't there though
So now you know, in part, why bt audio gives me a headache
*all bt sucks, lol
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If I want to listen to THAT kind of bass, I just jump in my car..... Kenwood head unit, 2-12" subs, yup definitely jump in my ride, that's my only escape
question, does Dolby Atmos on this phone make an almost insignificant difference to the output you get if you listen to something while toggling it on and off ?
not sure what the deal is there but what's my experience of it so far.
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question, does Dolby Atmos on this phone make an almost insignificant difference to the output you get if you listen to something while toggling it on and off ?
not sure what the deal is there but what's my experience of it so far.
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It should alter it considerably. I generally keep it disabled for music but occasionally use it.
I'm using a Note 10+.
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question, does Dolby Atmos on this phone make an almost insignificant difference to the output you get if you listen to something while toggling it on and off ?
not sure what the deal is there but what's my experience of it so far.
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Dolby Atmos was supposed to give you the cinematic surround sound effect. That being said, the "S" series did a better job at it than the Note did from what I've read. Personally, I haven't thought to try. Now, I'll have to
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Dolby Atmos was supposed to give you the cinematic surround sound effect. That being said, the "S" series did a better job at it than the Note did from what I've read. Personally, I haven't thought to try. Now, I'll have to
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Generally it adds distortion to music as it's a flawed algorithm. If memory serves me if works by manipulating the phasing and changing the weighting of selected frequency ranges ie psychoacoustics*.
Dolby encoded movies and music are a different animal and it works best with these. I don't think phones are capable of supporting this version though.
*In an open listening area that is acoustically suitable you only need two speakers and a stereo image to reproduce the sound stage of where the image was recorded. Without the open air (buds, headphones) for the audio waves to interact the sound stage effect is destroyed. Dolby attempts to create the illusion of this sound stage.
@blackhawk to be specific I'm only talking about the Atmos app baked into the settings of this phone, I don't know if it's featured in other Samsung models. I've tried the Dolby Atmos that's a flashable / installable add-on on other phones and that's fantastic, especially when combined with v4a.
now that I've been able to use my headphones again I've been very underwhelmed by the Samsung inclusion of Atmos, I'm curious what others make of it now.
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@blackhawk to be specific I'm only talking about the Atmos app baked into the settings of this phone, I don't know if it's featured in other Samsung models. I've tried the Dolby Atmos that's a flashable / installable add-on on other phones and that's fantastic, especially when combined with v4a.
now that I've been able to use my headphones again I've been very underwhelmed by the Samsung inclusion of Atmos, I'm curious what others make of it now.
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In a closed driver system ie headphones, buds the best you can do is a clean distortion free stereo image.
Without an open room there is no interaction between the different acoustic images coming from 2 or more stereo (or higher) drivers. These interactions are in order of many tens, hundreds etc of thousands per second.
If a audio wave at 20khz* meets with one at 19khz* a second wave at 1khz is created. These secondary waves collide with still more through out the 3D listening area to recreate the sound stage of were it was recorded. If done right you are there, electro-acousticly coupled.
Any attempt to create the illustration of that listening area tends to be feeble and add distortion to the music. The magnitude of the acoustic interactions in a open air listening are nearly infinite. It's impossible to faithfully recreate.
So if you like the way it sounds use it. It can be used to "center" vocals are increase their volume and clarity at the cost of suppressing other instruments in that recording. Tends to boost volume and bass.
*the 19 and 20khz are beyond most people's hearing range but the 1khz sound is not.
This is why in an open air listening area frequencies you can't hear become important to reproduce as they are needed to recreate the sound stage. Without them the sound stage is diminished.
Earlier today I stumbled on https://smile.amazon.com/Creative-Blaster-External-VoiceDetect-Cancellation/dp/B08SH5TNLV
I wonder how they compare to the Chinese-made no-name shovelware.
Being Creative Labs one would expect at least some quality. And the price is relatively reasonable..
the previous version ''play 3'' seems to aimed at gaming headphone users
I tried out the free version of the Wavelet app last night and as I suspected it seems to be the DAC in the adaptor that's detected as the connected device rather than the headphones.
I had intended to restart using V4A once I've rooted but now I'm wondering even more about DDC optimisation or whether it'll count as a USB connection now.
getting a quality, recognised brand name might matter more than I thought.