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Bought this phone wanting faster internet than what I had.
I really have not messed with this phone for 3 months and have been OK with what I am paying and the speeds I get. Nothing to write home about, but faster than what I had.
For almost a week now the thing has a hard time getting connected then it is really bad once connected.
Always dropping off (getting lost) Having to reload pages over and over because the signal goes away.
It switches from 3G back to 1x a lot.
A friend rooted this and installed tether, taskiller, and a few other things I can't remember.
I had tried to remove stuff running in the back ground as best I could a couple of months ago trying to save battery life (which sucks) with no problems.
So what gives?
I live 40 miles south of the Nations Capitol and 20 miles west of the great Interstate 95 bumper to bumper traffic corridor.
I know where the tower is (4 miles away) and don't think there will be any new ones anytime soon.
It's still out in the sticks.
Frustrated and I really don't want to brick this phone since I got rid of my landline.
Root it, flash the .04.08 leaked evo radio. I'm running it and have gotten much better 3g speeds. You won't regret it
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If you do ROOT your Inc you'll want to flash a custom ROM to get the optimized experience.
I would suggest SkyRaider 4.0
Also if you upgrade to the evo radio (2.15.4.08) BE CAREFUL! This is the easiest way to brick your phone.
Download the radio and also download the app called MAND5 from the market.
ManD5 will verify the checksum of the radio.
Compare the checksum to the downloaded radio to what it says it should be in either the thread or website.
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Also, SR4.0 has wireless tether included in the ROM.
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Personally, I'd opt for the 2.15.10.05.06 Incredible GB radio, as it's resulted in a low-but-reliable signal in some previously intermittent-signal areas I frequent here in the same area of the country. It's important to note that the effectiveness of the various radios seems to vary from phone to phone and location to location, so YMMV.
As for a custom ROM, if you like Sense, the previously mentioned SkyRaider 4.0 is nice, but if not, CyanogenMod 7 is really quite lovely. A Sense ROM will obviously be more like what you already have, but I have non-technical friends who have transitioned to a vanilla build with no problem.
Kernels can also help with battery life. I use Incredikernel--there's a 12/23 Sense kernel if you want to stick with a Sense ROM, or the 4/19 stable if you go with a vanilla gingerbread build, as well as an upcoming new release (currently in beta).
My understanding is that flashing radios is the most dangerous part, but it's also very straightforward. I know modding the phone can be a bit intimidating, but as long as you read and follow instructions, make frequent backups, don't go installing random things willy-nilly, and ensure you've got sufficient battery life, the risks are minimal. Plus, it can become a bit addictive.
If you're in warranty, root. If you brick it you will just be without a phone for a few days while you ask for a refurb (I know, I'm currently on my 3rd DInc, first one bricked and second got USB Bricked), but if that's not acceptable than just don't flash a radio. If you don't flash radios, there is a very low chance of getting bricked.
It sounds like you don't have much personal stuff on the phone. I'd make sure my contacts are backed up then do a factory reset. Let Google bing your contacts back then do a *228 Option 1. This way you'll have at least gotten rid of any interfering apps (I've heard that Task Killer can cause issues) and you'll know that your phone is programmed to the current towers.
THEN, if it still has problems, of if you just want to explore, you can start playing!
i have had my phone since it came out and rooted it as soon as i could and i still have luckily not bricked it. just make sure you back everything up and check md5 sums with the radios and test different radios, since some will work better than others.
You guys are speaking a whole different language
I have no idea what most of you are talking about and don't know where to look for this stuff.
"Root it, flash the .04.08 leaked evo radio" No idea what you saying here
"If you do ROOT your Inc you'll want to flash a custom ROM to get the optimized experience.
I would suggest SkyRaider 4.0
Also if you upgrade to the evo radio (2.15.4.08) BE CAREFUL! This is the easiest way to brick your phone.
Download the radio and also download the app called MAND5 from the market.
ManD5 will verify the checksum of the radio.
Compare the checksum to the downloaded radio to what it says it should be in either the thread or website." Ditto-no idea what radio is
What is radio? I don't want to listen to radio.
What would happen if I just tried the *228 option?
Verizon said I needed to do this every few months but I am concerned it will mess up the root job my friend did on the phone.
Your not gonna mess anything up doing a *228, don't worry about that.
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*228 wont do anything to your phone just type *22899 and it skips all the talk and goes straight to the, I guess you call it the update screen.
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What is radio? I don't want to listen to radio.
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Lmao...
The radio on your phone is the firmware that is used to communicate with the cell tower. Your going to want to look at this thread and read it over a couple times before even rooting your phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744807
...and also read the thread that's hyperlinked in that post.
From your last response, I wouldn't changed anything. There are all kinds of tutorials that take you through a step by step process to root. If you do a little research, you could have all your questions answered.
Words of warning
One of the surest ways to brick one of these is by not being patient enough. Never if your flashing something never pull the battery. Only flash when your battery is over 50% if it dies in the middle of flashing something it can brick it. Flashing roms and kernals is pretty safe following the above 2 cautions.
Flashing radios is kinda on the edge due to it accessing a completely diffrent memory space really you only need to worry if the radio you flashed is not the correct one for your phone or is corrupt due to some downloading error. This is why the md5 is checked if it passes chances are the download happened as it was susposed to and is the correct file.
Probably right
Shouldn't mess with it.
Be nice if all this wasn't so "underground" and one could walk in to a store and say
unlock this and give me what I want with a guarantee that it isn't going to be an expensive paperweight.
I got this thing thinking I would finally have decent internet speeds.
If I had known I was going to have to update roms and radios and who knows what else every other month I never would have got the stupid thing.
I haven't had a cell phone for 10 years.
And didn't miss it either.
See people everyday clutching the thing like it was an umbilical cord to momma.
Ridiculous. . . . and sad.
So I am going to ask again, if I do the *22899 thing, will it screw up my tether or rooted phone from getting online?
Will I have to alter anything else after *22899 ?
z0nker said:
Shouldn't mess with it.
Be nice if all this wasn't so "underground" and one could walk in to a store and say
unlock this and give me what I want with a guarantee that it isn't going to be an expensive paperweight.
I got this thing thinking I would finally have decent internet speeds.
If I had known I was going to have to update roms and radios and who knows what else every other month I never would have got the stupid thing.
I haven't had a cell phone for 10 years.
And didn't miss it either.
See people everyday clutching the thing like it was an umbilical cord to momma.
Ridiculous. . . . and sad.
So I am going to ask again, if I do the *22899 thing, will it screw up my tether or rooted phone from getting online?
Will I have to alter anything else after *22899 ?
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Your phone should reboot after the programming. If it doesn't, turn it off and turn it back on.
Reading your input above, you might be more comfortable with something less complicated. Go back to your rotary dial land line.
That helped
That seems to have helped anyway.
Thanks for the replies, even from you young pompous types.
I don't think anyone is being pompous here.
Rooting a phone is not always the answer. You need to understand what you're doing, and what the risks are. There is plenty of information on this forum to learn what rooting, flashing roms, and flashing radios entails... If you are interested. If you are not, I would not recommend rooting.
Verizon gives you what they are comfortable guaranteeing. They understandably are not going to support multiple ROMs or unofficial radios. My wife's phone is stock, because *I* don't want to support it. Nothing wrong with that.
It is rather hard to brick this phone if you understand what you're doing. On the other hand, if you don't know what *NOT* to do, you could end up with a brick fairly easily. Read the posts out there designed for beginners. Understand what you want to do. Make sure you have time to finish what you want to do. If any of these things seem like too much to do, leave it stock.
^^agreed.
i mean if you are not comfortable rooting your phone then you probably shouldnt do it, but the only way you will learn is by doing it yourself. thats how most of us know bout everything you can do once your phone is rooted.
My suggestion, if you're confused or uncomfortable with the technology, DON'T MESS WITH IT. Lots of people use the stock phone software very happily. If you take it, completely unmodified, to Verizon, and explain your problem, they'll be happy to assist you.
You don't have to root. You don't have to do anything you aren't comfortable with. Good luck.
After talking with some sprint tech's for a while about issues not only in my area but with the phone in general I found out that they can very very easily find out if you are rooted with a click of a button. I noticed that every single rom that I have ever used always says the name of the rom in the build number area of phone info menu. That is an easy way for sprint to see that you are rooted. Any way to change that or can't rom devs just not edit that part with the name of their rom? I know what rom I'm using, why does it need to be there?
Rom developers do that so they can ID the rom for a reason; and if you're dumb enough to bring it in rooted and the check to see your system, of course they are going to know, a five year old could tell the difference. Either put on a stock rooted rom, change the build prop, or unroot period.
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Rom developers do that so they can ID the rom for a reason; and if you're dumb enough to bring it in rooted and the check to see your system, of course they are going to know, a five year old could tell the difference. Either put on a stock rooted rom, change the build prop, or unroot period.
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+1... even if that was left totally stock named, and the rom looked like a stock sprint rom, they could still tell you were rooted... all they would have to do is look on your sd card, or look for apps that only work if your rooted such as superuser, rootuninstaller or any file explorer... take the extra minute and unroot to take your phone in.
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+1... even if that was left totally stock named, and the rom looked like a stock sprint rom, they could still tell you were rooted... all they would have to do is look on your sd card, or look for apps that only work if your rooted such as superuser, rootuninstaller or any file explorer... take the extra minute and unroot to take your phone in.
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It's usually a good idea to
1. S-On the phone
2. Flash an unrooted stock rom
3. switch SD cards
4. Uninstall or do not install any apps requiring root permissions
5. Lock your market (with an app protector)
before taking it into any Sprint Store for service.
teh roxxorz said:
Rom developers do that so they can ID the rom for a reason; and if you're dumb enough to bring it in rooted and the check to see your system, of course they are going to know, a five year old could tell the difference. Either put on a stock rooted rom, change the build prop, or unroot period.
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I'm not the dumb one here. Assuming always makes an ass out of someone. And it's not me.
The rom dev needs to ID them for what reason? I understand needing to identify the rom from others but I'm not seeing a reason that they need to ID it in this way.
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+1... even if that was left totally stock named, and the rom looked like a stock sprint rom, they could still tell you were rooted... all they would have to do is look on your sd card, or look for apps that only work if your rooted such as superuser, rootuninstaller or any file explorer... take the extra minute and unroot to take your phone in.
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-1... Again, like the other guy, you are assuming. Take the extra minute and think before you post, ask if I walked into a store first.
shortydoggg said:
It's usually a good idea to
1. S-On the phone
2. Flash an unrooted stock rom
3. switch SD cards
4. Uninstall or do not install any apps requiring root permissions
5. Lock your market (with an app protector)
before taking it into any Sprint Store for service.
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Must be contagious around here. If I was having problems with the phone in general I would first dump the rom and go back to stock to see if it was a issue with the rom or the phone. Common sense.
It was a phone call to sprint about network issues. About towers that were not working correctly and the tech I talked to at the Kansas center over all network issues could see **ALL** history of the phones ROM. Didn't matter what rom I curently had on the phone. It gets logged into the system. PERIOD. He told me it was rooted and told me the name of the rom installed and what day it was installed. I was kind of blown away.
I didn't walk into a store and say here's my rooted phone, fix it. Never heard of anyone unrooting a phone to call in about network issues. EVER! All I'm asking is is there a simple way to change the info that the Sprint system would see when it gathers the info about the phone to avoid detection of being rooted and a non stock rom installed. That's all. I understand you have life issues and feel angry at the world and need to make an ass out of yourself but if you can not just answer simply then just don't answer.
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All I'm asking is is there a simple way to change the info that the Sprint system would see when it gathers the info about the phone to avoid detection of being rooted and a non stock rom installed. That's all.
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No.
Thats the most insane thing ive ever heard. IM almost 100% sure that sprint can't read your ROM details. In fact in order for them to even trouble shoot over the air,they would need your permission to link to your phone using the main network. So dude im kinda sure that your back pedalling a little here after some responses. For future reference try wording your ?'s so they represent your intentions or future actions. Dont get all boohoo on us when you receive a little criticism. The way you are posting gives the impression that you blindly walked into a sprint store without unrooting. Next time just tell us what needs to be done ask for some help and someone will def hook you up right. :beer:
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PyreKing said:
Thats the most insane thing ive ever heard. IM almost 100% sure that sprint can't read your ROM details. In fact in order for them to even trouble shoot over the air,they would need your permission to link to your phone using the main network. So dude im kinda sure that your back pedalling a little here after some responses. For future reference try wording your ?'s so they represent your intentions or future actions. Dont get all boohoo on us when you receive a little criticism. The way you are posting gives the impression that you blindly walked into a sprint store without unrooting. Next time just tell us what needs to be done ask for some help and someone will def hook you up right. :beer:
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It may sound insane to you but that doesn't change the fact that its true. I know what the guy said on the phone. He said exactly what rom I had installed. You're kind of sure? So you have no idea what you're talking about you so you assume something? Lol The way that you are posting indicates you just want to start something with someone for no reason. Stop trolling and move on to the next thread.
They don't need any permission to link to your phone. They own the rights to access your phone by way of the contract you have with them. They have every right to check the connection between the towers and the phone. By doing that info gets logged to the system about the device connected.
I talked to tech's in the Kansas center that deals with network issues. These are not standard lvl 1 tech's. This guy called me back days later and dealt with me about the towers in my area that were under performing. I gave him my signal strength at multiple locations and he would (on his end) zoom into on each location and look at what was going on at each tower. Explaining to me that the tower at my work was 1.2 miles away and at that distance I should have full signal and even rolled out a van to not only check the strength in the parking lot of my office but various spots in that towers coverage. Determining that the tower had very low strength and needed to be addressed. Also figuring out that my phone was having signal issues near my home which was in range of 5 towers. I'm not back pedaling at all. I know what I'm talking about and i have no reason to ask a question with false pretense to get an answer that would not be pertaining to my actual issue. But since you like to assume everything just assume I didn't respond to your thread and troll some where else.
Wow trolling huh I simply stated what was present. In no way was I even been harsh. In fact I was referencing the way you worded your post that was causing the reactions you recieved. Like I said you had to have given them permission to link to your phone.....So that being said your gonna have a very hard time on xda when you bash people for heading you in the right direction. Good luck with being like that...
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I was under the impression that sprint serviced rooted phones, is this incorrect?
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Yes, most will. Unless you get some ahole (which has never happened to me). I've had hardware pieces replaced countless times in the last 18mo., and have NEVER unrooted. I do think the key, though is it's always been for hardware issues (primarily screens and cameras).
Hell, last time I took it in, I had ICS on it. Techs thought it was pretty cool.
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eskomo said:
I'm not the dumb one here. Assuming always makes an ass out of someone. And it's not me.
The rom dev needs to ID them for what reason? I understand needing to identify the rom from others but I'm not seeing a reason that they need to ID it in this way.
-1... Again, like the other guy, you are assuming. Take the extra minute and think before you post, ask if I walked into a store first.
Must be contagious around here. If I was having problems with the phone in general I would first dump the rom and go back to stock to see if it was a issue with the rom or the phone. Common sense.
It was a phone call to sprint about network issues. About towers that were not working correctly and the tech I talked to at the Kansas center over all network issues could see **ALL** history of the phones ROM. Didn't matter what rom I curently had on the phone. It gets logged into the system. PERIOD. He told me it was rooted and told me the name of the rom installed and what day it was installed. I was kind of blown away.
I didn't walk into a store and say here's my rooted phone, fix it. Never heard of anyone unrooting a phone to call in about network issues. EVER! All I'm asking is is there a simple way to change the info that the Sprint system would see when it gathers the info about the phone to avoid detection of being rooted and a non stock rom installed. That's all. I understand you have life issues and feel angry at the world and need to make an ass out of yourself but if you can not just answer simply then just don't answer.
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why dont you quit being an ass and take the advice given to you... and yes you do appear to be the idiot here. everyone is just giving you the reason, if you want the real reason, ask a developer why. If you are that worried about it maybe you shouldnt be rooting. We try to be helpful here and look at what happens. If you dont like it here JUST LEAVE and take your idiotic comments/questions somewhere else. I am sure you will fit in on some of the other forums much better. And I always wondered why people flamed and bashed SHESH! I now know why. You try to help someone out with suggestions and answers and they get an attitude... to all those people i say F**K OFF!
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why dont you quit being an ass and take the advice given to you... and yes you do appear to be the idiot here. everyone is just giving you the reason, if you want the real reason, ask a developer why. And go ahead and take your phone in without removing all traces of an unroot. We try to be helpful here and look at what happens. If you dont like it here JUST LEAVE and take your idiotic comments/questions somewhere else. I am sure you will fit in on some of the other forums much better. And I always wondered why people flamed and bashed SHESH! I now know why. You try to help someone out with suggestions and answers and they get an attitude... to all those people i say F**K OFF!
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Did you read the thread at all? You're the idiot. Only one person answered the question, Shortydoggg. Everyone else assumed I took it into a store and didn't answer anything. As stated above, you do not need to remove root. Don't be a troll. You need to get out into the real world and leave your moms basement bud.
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Wow trolling huh I simply stated what was present. In no way was I even been harsh. In fact I was referencing the way you worded your post that was causing the reactions you recieved. Like I said you had to have given them permission to link to your phone.....So that being said your gonna have a very hard time on xda when you bash people for heading you in the right direction. Good luck with being like that...
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I'm not sure I gave permission. I was speaking to the guy on the phone and he was looking into different things and asked if i had updated to the most recent OTA update. Then proceeded to tell me it looked like I was rooted and had a modded rom. That was it, he didn't ask permission to access my phone.
You said I was back pedaling and that i was boohooing. Umm ya trolling! Being harsh whatever you want to call it. I didnt come after you, you came after me.
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Did you read the thread at all? You're the idiot. Only one person answered the question, Shortydoggg. Everyone else assumed I took it into a store and didn't answer anything. As stated above, you do not need to remove root. Don't be a troll. You need to get out into the real world and leave your moms basement bud.
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The point i was trying to make is, what does it matter what it says? if you dont like htey way devs make their roms, maybe you should make your own. Gotta love your maturity level here. You will not get the type of assistance you require here with this type of bashing and attitude.
Nope it needs to be unrooted and s off. I kinda agree with the other guy here mate. Your
post does suggest what he says it does. And flaming people for pointing things out like is f'd up. You need to-be able to handle constructive criticism to be on xda. Peeps here have heard it all,and don't take kindly to noobs acting in such a manner trust me on this one. Restrict yourself to just simply stating what and why, and you'll always be right. Cheers mate.
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Yeah my girl works for Verizon cs and she said there is no way that she can bring up someone's phone and tell if they are rooted or not.
Sent from my Rezound running stock/leaked ICS.
Wow. I am astonished by the level of ungratefulness going around
thread closed before anyone gets hurt.
ok this has already been said to be hard bricked. i tried the JTAG and it didnt work because of a damaged EMMC chip. but how does a EMMC chip get damaged??? could it of been from shipping it to texas (place where it got JTAGged)? what about sprint could i lie and get a refurbished one???
btw it was bricked by a flash, so how could it damage the EMMC chip????
thanks
i flashed cm9 with the el26 CWM repacked ( the one in the directions) and i still bricked...
How do you know EMMC chip damaged? Just curious...
jamcar said:
ok this has already been said to be hard bricked. i tried the JTAG and it didnt work because of a damaged EMMC chip. but how does a EMMC chip get damaged??? could it of been from shipping it to texas (place where it got JTAGged)? what about sprint could i lie and get a refurbished one???
btw it was bricked by a flash, so how could it damage the EMMC chip????
thanks
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It was damaged when you formatted the partitions in cwm....only thing you can do is go to sprint and see if they replace it if not then ship it to Samsung and see if they will do it.....it was not damaged in shipping...it was damaged by u not reading and flashing the way devs have said
The emmc is not really damaged but the partitions are screwed up and no way to fix..
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What you do is post in the right section and then buy another god damn phone... I don't mean to be a **** but seriously, there have been sooo many bricking threads and warnings...
Now what? Now you go to Sprint, be honest with them, appeal to their kindness and hope for the best. If that doesn't work then you buy a new one.
I'll supplement the previous comments by this...
Once you get your new phone read up on flashing CM9 to avoid bricking it again. You can start with the sticky at the top of this thread.
No. What you do is, go to Sprint, say you were playing a game, it froze, you pulled the battery and now all it has is a steady blue LED and you don't know why. Do not mention rooting, act like you don't know what rooting is. They can't check if it's rooted anymore without wiping all software so you're fine. If you have warranty, they'll have a replacement in 3 days.
Stay away from CM9. C stands for catastrophic and m for meltdown, the nine is just a nine.
Pp.
" It is said that when He swims, dolphins appear "......... even if its in a pool!
hrffd said:
No. What you do is, go to Sprint, say you were playing a game, it froze, you pulled the battery and now all it has is a steady blue LED and you don't know why. Do not mention rooting, act like you don't know what rooting is. They can't check if it's rooted anymore without wiping all software so you're fine. If you have warranty, they'll have a replacement in 3 days.
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Yes, by all means let's advise people how to avoid taking personal responsibility for not following instructions and screwing up their phones in the process. That's a surefire way to keep future costs down.
Bricked also, welcome to the club
I to have a bricked device. I now know that this issue resides from a defect that resides in the kernel i believe and really only happens when going from one ICS rom to another. I can't believe that this even happened in the first place. Since i first got the phone when it was released I've been flashing away completely fine up until I flashed the Slim rom and then bam, Nothing. I to sent it in for repair at mobiletechvideos.com but they were not able to fix that eMMC data issue. I've been dealing with this since May 2 now and still don't have a working phone. I"m going to be send back to Samsung for a possible repair but this issue is not because of anything that you did wrong. It's a know issue by know and hopefully in the near future other users won't have to deal this this same **** either. Sounds like a possible patch in the works to prevent this from happening at all on these phones running this particular processor.
Good luck to you
http://www.xda-developers.com/tag/att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
Esoteric68 said:
Yes, by all means let's advise people how to avoid taking personal responsibility for not following instructions and screwing up their phones in the process. That's a surefire way to keep future costs down.
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I'm sorry I have to say this. First let me say that I do believe in taking responsibility for my own actions. But the arguement that people going in a lying to sprint will raise cost is mute. If one was to stop and think about this. This is a company that sells you a plan that includes unlimited data and text and then charges you an additional fee for premium data. They have a whole team at the corporate level that their whole job is to figure out ways to raise cost and pitch it to customers in a way that they will still want to buy. I really do understand what you're saying but believe me. If everyone that ever bricked a phone was honest and paid out the ass for a new phone. Sprint and Samsung would still raise the cost of their services and producst. The only thing that people lying to sprint does is give them an excuse. Maybe I've been in the tech feild too long and am just jaded. Its not just sprint. Its all companies like that. How else do you think they afford to pay their CEO's and underlings 6-7figures aa year.
I believe the issue lies with step 2 in the cm9 install directions.
I never wipe data or factory reset in CWM. Wipe cache or davlik is fine. I always use calks format all to wipe data.
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jamesey said:
I believe the issue lies with step 2 in the cm9 install directions.
I never wipe data or factory reset in CWM. Wipe cache or davlik is fine. I always use calks format all to wipe data.
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I do the same except I use the modified format (no data) zip as well but sounds like its only a matter of time before I get bit for being lazy
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No. What you do is, go to Sprint, say you were playing a game, it froze, you pulled the battery and now all it has is a steady blue LED and you don't know why. Do not mention rooting, act like you don't know what rooting is. They can't check if it's rooted anymore without wiping all software so you're fine. If you have warranty, they'll have a replacement in 3 days.
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Completely off-topic but your signature is making me want to fire up the GBA emulator and play Pokemon Red/Blue again.
Is this issue only going to get worse when a true ICS recovery is developed? Will the new recoveries gracefully handle GB to ICS and the reverse? I hope so, or it sounds like we're in for a lot of madness.
I've always used Mobile Odin to get back to EL26 and I've never had a problem flip-flopping back and forth to roms. CM9 alpha 4 seems very refined to me and I'm going to stick with it for awhile until MIUI gets its battery issues resolved.
But I say if people want to play in the ICS pool, pay your $5 to get mobile odin pro, and only use the proper EL26 recovery for everything. It's so simple and that's a lot cheaper than a warranty replace or totally new phone.
jamesey said:
I believe the issue lies with step 2 in the cm9 install directions.
I never wipe data or factory reset in CWM. Wipe cache or davlik is fine. I always use calks format all to wipe data.
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I believe the issue lies in user error. CM9 instructions are to odin el26cwm which has been safe to wipe/data since it's a Gingerbread kernel. I have installed cm9, aokp, codename, gummy, and mainly lots of nightly builds for cm9. Never had an issue and yes I followed the cm9 instructions. Somewhere along the way I believe people don't realize is that on this phone, every time you flash a rom, it comes with it's own kernel and recovery if there is one packaged. For now all instructions are pretty much the same across the board, for any flashing wiping etc it has to be done on a gingerbread recovery either el26 or el29.
scarmon25 said:
I'm sorry I have to say this. First let me say that I do believe in taking responsibility for my own actions. But the arguement that people going in a lying to sprint will raise cost is mute. If one was to stop and think about this. This is a company that sells you a plan that includes unlimited data and text and then charges you an additional fee for premium data. They have a whole team at the corporate level that their whole job is to figure out ways to raise cost and pitch it to customers in a way that they will still want to buy. I really do understand what you're saying but believe me. If everyone that ever bricked a phone was honest and paid out the ass for a new phone. Sprint and Samsung would still raise the cost of their services and producst. The only thing that people lying to sprint does is give them an excuse. Maybe I've been in the tech feild too long and am just jaded. Its not just sprint. Its all companies like that. How else do you think they afford to pay their CEO's and underlings 6-7figures aa year.
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You're right, of course the carrier(s) and manufacturer(s) are going to continue to raise costs because they are a business and that's how they stay in business but it's a little naive (or wishful thinking?) to assume these types of events do not affect cost.
So while I agree with you on that point (they raise prices regardless) I still stand firm on people lying to cover their asses when they screw up and ruin their phones.
I can't count the number of these threads I've seen, just since January, despite there being tons of warnings, detailed installation instructions, and other threads like this alerting people what not to do. It leaves me to wonder how many people have read, but not posted, and followed the dishonest advice to obtain new phones at little or no cost.
My argument is that we are enabling an irresponsible mindset that doesn't stop with broken phones. Pointless argument perhaps but just my personal feelings.
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You're right, of course the carrier(s) and manufacturer(s) are going to continue to raise costs because they are a business and that's how they stay in business but it's a little naive (or wishful thinking?) to assume these types of events do not affect cost.
So while I agree with you on that point (they raise prices regardless) I still stand firm on people lying to cover their asses when they screw up and ruin their phones.
I can't count the number of these threads I've seen, just since January, despite there being tons of warnings, detailed installation instructions, and other threads like this alerting people what not to do. It leaves me to wonder how many people have read, but not posted, and followed the dishonest advice to obtain new phones at little or no cost.
My argument is that we are enabling an irresponsible mindset that doesn't stop with broken phones. Pointless argument perhaps but just my personal feelings.
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I do agree with some of your points, though I think your exaggerating the costs.
They are not going to give him a new phone just a refurbished one. The one he damaged is not beyond repair. It will be sent out and be refurbished for someone else.
I'm sure the cost of tep more then covers Sprint's costs.
PanchoPlanet said:
Stay away from CM9. C stands for catastrophic and m for meltdown, the nine is just a nine.
Pp.
" It is said that when He swims, dolphins appear "......... even if its in a pool!
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Except that, if you actually follow instructions, it's not either of those things. I've flashed CM9 and AOKP literally dozens of times, following the instructions to the letter, and haven't had a single issue. All you have to do is make sure that when you do wipe data/factory reset, you're doing it on EL26 Stock CWM, not a Rogue repack or whatnot.
People are going to do whatever they do no matter what is said. Some feel they've been screwed over by the carriers and OEM's and this is their opportunity to get back at em. Trust me if I had an opportunity toto stick Comcast with a nice shafting I would. In all honesty though. If you know how to read people. You can go into a store and tell the tech the truth and he will still swap it for 35 bucks or free if you have the TEP. You may have to go to a few stores and talk to the tech for a few minutes to feel em out. Hell I bricked mine and me and the tech talked for a few minutes about the issues happening wwith the phone and what caused it and he had no problem swapping it out. I paid the 35 bucks and was done with it. As I said. I agree with the taking responsibility cause lord knows this nation could use a morals lesson or two. But aether your honest or you lie there is going to be people that seal these bricks out for free phones. Whether its a nice tech doing a solid or a lying customer. Not to mention the thousands Samsung has probably already bricked looking into it. My grip isn't with telling people to be honest. Its with the arguement that alot of people seem to bring that them lying and that alone will be the reason for price hikes. I know that wasn't what was said here it was just one of those deals where it was the post that caused me to respond.
Take care.
HI everyone,
My girlfriend has a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy T-999 phone and she is using Straight Talk as her provider. She is using Android Version 4.1.2 ( which I wanted to root before I factory reset her phone- which I did before via the Dial Pad but at the last option after I wait the 30 seconds to a minute the last option isn't there; so I left it alone. and updated her phone to 4.3 ) But it isn't necessary to root her phone today unless it's very easy.
What I wanted to know is, is it safe to Factory Reset her Phone and than allow Kies to upgrade her firmware to 4.3 and still be able to use Straight Talk as long I put back in her APN settings that she is using right now?
Now as for me,
I own a
Verizon S4
AT&T S4 - Which was blacklisted because I bought it off Craigslist and a man called it in stolen and got me for $550.That's a story in itself
2x AT&T S3-One has a cracked screen but the digitizer is working fine, it's just the outer screen that is cracked, and I have a working S# which I use on a daily basis.
My issues, I will look up and spend some more time on XDA today and learn how to do everything correctly.
I wouldn't mind testing everything I learn either on the cracked S3 or my blacklisted S4 which are both on AT&T network.
I have rooted only phone back in the day,( a long time ago via dial pad which i think it might of been on 4.1.1. firmware) .- phone that would cause an issue on my part. Now, when I am not working I search and have read MANY MANY times on XDA and wanted to let everyone know that I appreciate everything that you all do on your own free time. But most importantly today, i need to work on her phone and get it updated and working correctly.
Thanks in advance for anyone who responds to this post.:good:
Are you trying to root or unlock? The first part about the dial pad and option not being there sounds like the unlock method, I don't know of any root method involving the dial pad
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what i really need to know is this part..
"My girlfriend has a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy T-999 phone and she is using Straight Talk as her provider. She is using Android Version 4.1.2
What I wanted to know is, is it safe to Factory Reset her Phone and than allow Kies to upgrade her firmware to 4.3 and still be able to use Straight Talk as long I put back in her APN settings that she is using right now? "
thanks
Yes, that should be fine, but if it is rooted or modified it may fail to initiate the flash. In this case go to the firmware thread linked in my sig and flash the firmware via Odin. (Let me know if you have any questions about that)
Off topic but I have to ask if you'd be willing to try something on that spare AT&T device. But if you are at all skeptical or uncomfortable doing this, it is perfectly fine to decline....
In case you dont know, AT&T once again seems to have decided to withhold the stock firmware for the new 4.4.2 update. This causes tons of problems for users here on xda! I have built the stock firmware for the I747 myself, but have no way to test it, so ive been sitting on it for nearly 2 weeks! If this is something you'd be willing to consider, please let me know. (I will tell you everything I know about the possible negatives before you do).
Like I said, if you're not comfortable doing that, its perfectly fine. Im just trying to find someone with a spare S3 willing to take the risk of testing it. (Risk is minimal imo, or I wouldn't even bother asking). But please do not be afraid to tell me no! (And you dont have to explain yourself if you do!)
Sorry for going OT, I just have to take the opportunity to ask when I can! I just dont want to ask someone to test on their primary device because there's always a chance things can go wrong.
DocHoliday77 said:
Yes, that should be fine, but if it is rooted or modified it may fail to initiate the flash. In this case go to the firmware thread linked in my sig and flash the firmware via Odin. (Let me know if you have any questions about that)
Off topic but I have to ask if you'd be willing to try something on that spare AT&T device. But if you are at all skeptical or uncomfortable doing this, it is perfectly fine to decline....
In case you dont know, AT&T once again seems to have decided to withhold the stock firmware for the new 4.4.2 update. This causes tons of problems for users here on xda! I have built the stock firmware for the I747 myself, but have no way to test it, so ive been sitting on it for nearly 2 weeks! If this is something you'd be willing to consider, please let me know. (I will tell you everything I know about the possible negatives before you do).
Like I said, if you're not comfortable doing that, its perfectly fine. Im just trying to find someone with a spare S3 willing to take the risk of testing it. (Risk is minimal imo, or I wouldn't even bother asking). But please do not be afraid to tell me no! (And you dont have to explain yourself if you do!)
Sorry for going OT, I just have to take the opportunity to ask when I can! I just dont want to ask someone to test on their primary device because there's always a chance things can go wrong.
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Yes i am willing to help you out. I just need to run out to BJ's and get some food for my kids and the Cat food I should be back in about an hr or so, once I am back , i am willing to help you out with this. I will do a simple backup of the phone but you will have to walk me through the steps since I haven't rooted a phone nor done any flashing, if you don't mind doing something like a Google Plus hangout, i am more than willing to help you out with this project.Is that ok with you?
Yup that'll be fine. Thank you! Ill pm you in the meantime to let you know about any potential negatives before actually committing to flashing it.
Just so you know now though, worst case scenario is a hard brick. And we have not been able to get our debrick method to work on kk yet.
I am confident that will not be the result, but there is always that chance when flashing anything, tested or not. Just be aware that currently we cannot recover a hard brick updated with kk. You can pay for a jtag service, but if it did come to that I wouldnt be able to help on the cost more than just a few bucks.
Like I said, that is the worst that can happen, but if I thought there was a good chance of it, I wouldnt bother asking to begin with.
Thanks again and check your PM's when you get back.
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Yup that'll be fine. Thank you! Ill pm you in the meantime to let you know about any potential negatives before actually committing to flashing it.
Just so you know now though, worst case scenario is a hard brick. And we have not been able to get our debrick method to work on kk yet.
I am confident that will not be the result, but there is always that chance when flashing anything, tested or not. Just be aware that currently we cannot recover a hard brick updated with kk. You can pay for a jtag service, but if it did come to that I wouldnt be able to help on the cost more than just a few bucks.
Like I said, that is the worst that can happen, but if I thought there was a good chance of it, I wouldnt bother asking to begin with.
Thanks again and check your PM's when you get back.
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Right now, the way I am looking at it, is I have another phone S3 running 4.2.1 and those S4's, People like you have committed their time over and over again, it's the least I can do. And if it does get hard bricked, when there is a time and it is fixed, you could just help me or by than I will know exactly what I am doing, and can do it myself. But I am willing to help you out and take the chance. I will PM you when I get back bud.
When I get back I will finish talking to you and than we can start.
I've had people, both in real life and on web forums, tell me that rooting is risky/riskier at this point in time. Is this true? I'm just considerably more nervous as the phone isn't even a week old yet. However, I feel like I'm just being scared for no reason. I had huge butterflies when I rooted my s3 for the first time (first time rooting). It was so simple and without any scares. After that, I played with ROMs, started rooting friends' old phones when they got new ones. I plan on attempting to dual boot my s3 with other things now for fun. So, I'm aware that there's always a risk, but I just don't want to hold off rooting for no reason. Is it a breeze? Is my anxiety truly warranted?
Also, I keep reading "Chinese variants" what does that mean? Are they talking about the phone nationality or the chip? I feel like it's a dumb question, but this is confusing me. It adds to my nervousness because I'm thinking, what if it means only Chinese phones and I screw up my American phone. I know it's probably silly, but...
Anyway, thanks for any help.
Just use chainfire's sprint root and you will be fine. No reason to worry.
dschachm said:
Just use chainfire's sprint root and you will be fine. No reason to worry.
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This. I've rooted every Android phone I've ever owned. I like to take control of my device.
Have to agree. I've rooted every Android device that I've owned and never had any issues including taking them to a Sprint store for replacement.
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dschachm said:
Just use chainfire's sprint root and you will be fine. No reason to worry.
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Thanks for putting my mind at ease.
Maybe I should make another post, but I'm on linux/ubuntu and I've seen mention of attempting to use Odin in VM, but I worry that if it does work that such a "bridge" might cause potential interruptions. Any further advice?
Edit: According to some further research, it's not suggested to run Odin in VM. So, never mind. Thanks again for the answer, I'll just borrow someone's Windows PC.