Pretty much what the title says, my brother recently got a windows phone and I was just wondering if it would be possible to port over a windows ROM for talblts, specifically the kindle fire?
Don't think so for now because I'm guessing that the Kindle is basically wired for Android. If you want the Kindle to be like a windows phone, root it, install ICS and then search for launcher 7 in the app store.
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I guess it might be possible with the ARM version.
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He is talking about Windows phone not Windows 8/RT
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Your Best bet will be what notdeadyet01 said but I will go even further and get all the apps from the 7+ Android project here http://sevenplusandroid.org/
Edit: lets pretend as the above text does not exist
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The main problems is drivers, the fact that windows RT is closed source, and will only be available to manufactures and it is unknown if the Secure Boot is build in the OS or just an obligation that is placed on manufactures
no offense to anyone but in my opinion windows just sucks. its boring, my mom has one, its smooth as F*ck but boring
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I guess it might be possible with the ARM version.
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I heard that ARM wasn't going to exist, plus it isn't open source because it's windows so therein lies another challenge. I would have to agree with notreadyyet and say go with ICS/GB and Launcher 7. If you want a Windows 8 tab you're going to have to buy one. But since android can just as easily mimic win7/8 (and have a better app selection) you'll probably be better off with android anyway.
nschiwy said:
I heard that ARM wasn't going to exist, plus it isn't open source because it's windows so therein lies another challenge. I would have to agree with notreadyyet and say go with ICS/GB and Launcher 7. If you want a Windows 8 tab you're going to have to buy one. But since android can just as easily mimic win7/8 (and have a better app selection) you'll probably be better off with android anyway.
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windows 8 for arm will be called windows rt so yes it does exist, but only comes pre installed
I agree android is better, I was just thinking, like the iPhone where you can duakbit android and iOS, I just figured if you could it would just add to the possibilities of open source android.
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As you may know, there has been an official statement saying what editions of windows 8 there will be.
For x86, there will be two available to consumers (standard and pro) and one available only for volume licensing (enterprise).
Windows 8 ARM, often called WoA, has officially been named Windows RT. It will not carry the name "8" at all.
How will XDA handle this? There is already a Windows 8 forum on XDA, but this is a mobile development site, and Windows 8 will me mainly geared towards desktops and laptops. There will be some x86 tablets but most expect the new windows tablets to mainly run on ARM. Windows RT will be mostly tablets and some laptops.
Microsoft has also previously stated that windows phone 8 will be its own operating system, and will not be the same as WoA, now to be referred to as Windows RT (just pointing this out to avoid confusion)
So, a few options I can see happening:
-the Windows 8 forum being changed to windows RT, as this is a mobile site, and not having a windows 8 forum
-the windows 8 forum being kept, as there will be some mobile devices running it, and a windows RT forum being created as well, since they're different OSes
-making windows 8 have two main sections - x86 and RT (since they can run the same programs and share a lot of code)
What do you think will happen, and why?
And if anyone involved in the decision making process sees this, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Windows Really Terrible?
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Windows Really Terrible?
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Or simply windows Runtime. Indeed the branding can be confusing. ARM was fine. They could have gone for something simpler in their communication: Windows Tablet ...
Not sure it's a huge priority tbh...
Once we start to see what's coming out, I guess a decision will be made about if only the ARM version will be covered...
I could imagine something like a Windows 8 category (like a device appears as a category), with 2 subforums - ARM Devices and x86 Devices...
Just an idea, but not a major priority AFAIK. Guess it's a case of seeing how things go.
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Or simply windows Runtime. Indeed the branding can be confusing. ARM was fine. They could have gone for something simpler in their communication: Windows Tablet ...
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I like Windows ARM. WARM. It's all fuzzy
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Considering the CPU architecture (Tecra 3) would it be possible to get a port of Windows 8 running on it?
c_marius said:
Considering the CPU architecture (Tecra 3) would it be possible to get a port of Windows 8 running on it?
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I guess it would technically be possible to run Windows 8 (ARM) on it.
Assuming you mean Windows 8 OS and not Windows phone 8, It would be very unlikely as there are too many factors as to why this would not work. For starters the windows 8 kernel would need to be heavily modified in order to work on the HOX architecture, also which windows os relays on stock driver support in order for it to function so someone would also need to write drivers for the hardware support too.
It would be more likely possible to port Windows phone 8 since it is designed for phones in mind from the get go. Windows phone 8 is a heavily modified version of the windows 8 OS.
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Considering the CPU architecture (Tecra 3) would it be possible to get a port of Windows 8 running on it?
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Short answer No. Unlike Android Microsoft is not open source also you won't get source codes or Kernel sources etc. for the Devs to build one.
Well... although it's highly unlikely if Windows 8 is released and Tegra 3 is still the flagship CPU from NVIDIA the possibility of a port may increase slightly (Only if a Tegra 3 powered Win8 tablet is produced)
May be chances are higher side.
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Short answer No. Unlike Android Microsoft is not open source also you won't get source codes or Kernel sources etc. for the Devs to build one.
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And probably illegal?
Guys, both Windows Mobile 8 and Windows RT (8) will be available for ARM processors, it's more a case of porting drivers than modifying the kernel. Of course we would need to develop a new bootloader to feed Windows 8 (mobile or not) device information the way it wants it.
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Guys, both Windows Mobile 8 and Windows RT (8) will be available for ARM processors, it's more a case of porting drivers than modifying the kernel. Of course we would need to develop a new bootloader to feed Windows 8 (mobile or not) device information the way it wants it.
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Which would require s-off?
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treebill said:
Which would require s-off?
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S-OFF would no doubt help make the solution more elegant, but it is certainly not necessary.
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S-OFF would no doubt help make the solution more elegant, but it is certainly not necessary.
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That is good to hear well either way you would need to have a windows 8 serial and that means buying it, these forums don't support that sort of stuff.
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With Bluestack and the upcoming windowsandroid, in near future, windows can run android apps.
Will the Surface tablet then become the most popular tablet since it can run both native Windows applications and android apps?
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source?
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Source that windows can run android apps? Liliputing. Also downloaded blue stack and tested it myself on windows 7.
short answer: no.
long answer: windows rt != windows. While a modern pc has all the horsepower needed to emulate an ARM system, an ARM SoC doesn't really have the power to emulate anything (well, anything modern) so i don't think we will see windows rt run android apps anytime soon. Plus, there would be the "marketplace approval issue" and even then you would have no google play...
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short answer: no.
long answer: windows rt != windows. While a modern pc has all the horsepower needed to emulate an ARM system, an ARM SoC doesn't really have the power to emulate anything (well, anything modern) so i don't think we will see windows rt run android apps anytime soon. Plus, there would be the "marketplace approval issue" and even then you would have no google play...
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Surface tablet runs windows 8, not windows 8 rt and has a intel chip, not arm. There is the surface rt tablet which is based on arm processor. And currently for both blue stacks and windows android, the google play market is accessible. Else u can always sure load apps.
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Surface tablet runs windows 8, not windows 8 rt and has a intel chip, not arm. There is the surface rt tablet which is based on arm processor. And currently for both blue stacks and windows android, the google play market is accessible. Else u can always sure load apps.
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Microsoft is planning on releasing a Surface tablet thats x86 based. Its actually listed on there website rite now. The Surface RT IS the tablet based on ARM and any Windows RT install is ARM based and just saying the Surface RT has a Nvidia Tegra 3 processor. Blackberry tablets are able to run Android apps no problem. Running Windows apps and run Android apps shouldn't be a problem. Its just software.
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Surface tablet runs windows 8, not windows 8 rt and has a intel chip, not arm. There is the surface rt tablet which is based on arm processor. And currently for both blue stacks and windows android, the google play market is accessible. Else u can always sure load apps.
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no dude, surface runs windows RT and the upcoming surface pro will run windows 8.
your right, surface is arm so if they was the software it could run android app but it would be a lot better to run apps made for the surface. I like the surface over a android tab its just price is too high.
Bluestacks is an emulator. You can't expect things to work 100%.
I've used bluestacks and it is clunky at best. Sure it works on a pinch but I wouldn't buy non-android tablet and expect to run android stuff. Even if things do run perfect, emulation will take a toll on performance.
If you want an android tablet but an android tablet. The only way this will remotely work well is if we find ourselves a 10" HD2.
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Is android more powerful as compare to windows ?
What do you mean more powerful? Code is certainly not more powerful than other code... It could be claimed as more capable
So I want to get a Windows 8 tablet. I currently have a Asus TF300T (android) and I'm not quite happy with it. I want something that's actually productive. I do a bit of photography and saw that you can connect to a desktop with your tablet and work remotely (I need to look more into this) I figure I could use this and not actually put the images on the tablet or Lightroom. The only thing I see a draw back with the Surface RT is no pen support this is something I would really like. Does anybody have any suggestions on an RT or full windows tablet that has pen support. I'm looking at used Surface RT tablets for around $300 and would like to keep it around there. I have also seen the original Surface Pro for around $500 ( at that price I'm going to have to convince the wife )
You can connect to desktop the same way both from Android and Windows RT. There's official Remote Desktop app from Microsoft in Play store. And I don't think that it will be fast enough to work with Lightroom without any lags and other problems.
Windows RT is locked platform, without jailbreak you can use only ModernUI apps (+these few desktop ones that are included in OS), after jailbreaking a couple more that were recompiled to ARM archtecture.
If you like hacking your device, like in Windows Mobile times, it may be good for you. But if it's all about working through remote desktop - first try to use this on your Transformer.
There's no WinRT tablet with pen support, sorry. Also, if you're thinking about working remotely with magnetic pen - this will just not work. You need to buy something with x86, like Surface Pro and use your software directly on it.
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There's no WinRT tablet with pen support, sorry
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WinRT != Windows RT.
I wouldn't recommend the Surface
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So I want to get a Windows 8 tablet. I currently have a Asus TF300T (android) and I'm not quite happy with it. I want something that's actually productive. I do a bit of photography and saw that you can connect to a desktop with your tablet and work remotely (I need to look more into this) I figure I could use this and not actually put the images on the tablet or Lightroom. The only thing I see a draw back with the Surface RT is no pen support this is something I would really like. Does anybody have any suggestions on an RT or full windows tablet that has pen support. I'm looking at used Surface RT tablets for around $300 and would like to keep it around there. I have also seen the original Surface Pro for around $500 ( at that price I'm going to have to convince the wife )
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Unless you really need Microsoft Word 2013, the Surface has nothing on Android. If I had known, I would have gotten the $500 Pro before the $200 RT. The Pro allows you to run non-Windows-Store apps so this means you could, in essence, install, say, a device that Microsoft doesn't include drivers for.
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You can connect to desktop the same way both from Android and Windows RT. There's official Remote Desktop app from Microsoft in Play store. And I don't think that it will be fast enough to work with Lightroom without any lags and other problems.
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Also check out Splashtop, which works on Windows 8/RT, Windows Phone, Android, and iOS and actually streams from your desktop computer at low latency. It has a mode for quality and a mode for speed, so you can select the one the suits your task. It is fast enough to play games with, though you usually have to run them in windowed mode since it can only capture full-screen video content from certain Nvidia graphics cards.
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Unless you really need Microsoft Word 2013, the Surface has nothing on Android. If I had known, I would have gotten the $500 Pro before the $200 RT. The Pro allows you to run non-Windows-Store apps so this means you could, in essence, install, say, a device that Microsoft doesn't include drivers for.
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I'd argue they have pretty close feature parity. Most apps for Android have an equivalent on the Windows Store, or a web-based equivalent. Windows 8 RT has much much better file browsing capabilities since you can use the full windows file browser in desktop mode. I don't know of any Android tablets that have a full usb port, and Windows RT supports many more devices. A Windows RT device operates as a standalone computer, one which you could connect your cell phone to transfer files, back-up, or otherwise administer it (or your Android tablet for that matter). Especially for a photographer, being able to connect an external media card reader or directly to the camera is a huge plus. Personally, I think the Windows 8/Metro interface is much cleaner and more fluid than Android's (I hate icon-grid layouts). So, I'm not sure where you are coming from saying Surface has "nothing on Android". It's quite competitive.
I just meant in the sense that RT is still fairly new and Android is already matured, with loads more apps. You are right about the USB port, though.
RT also has much better multitasking, especially if jailbroken and using desktop apps. Browser + text editor + IM client + calculator all on the screen at once, with a Skype call in the background? No problem.
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Microsoft anounced that windows 10 will support tablets including android tablets have it from an pcwelt video german
comlete feature list windows 10
http://www.pcwelt.de/ratgeber/Windo...Windows-10-Funktionen-Windows-10-9602942.html
you think it woud be posebile to install it in the tab s
dual boot woud be the best 1 android and 1 windows
As of right now not possible, but never say never!
No. Microsoft has ceased all development on the ARM version of windows, aka Windows RT. The new Windows 10 will only run on x86 hardware, which means you will need an android tablet with a Intel processor to install Windows 10. The Galaxy Tab S uses an ARM processor, hence it is not compatible.
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No. Microsoft has ceased all development on the ARM version of windows, aka Windows RT. The new Windows 10 will only run on x86 hardware, which means you will need an android tablet with a Intel processor to install Windows 10. The Galaxy Tab S uses an ARM processor, hence it is not compatible.
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This is not correct I am afraid. They made windows 10 running on Xiaomi MI4. The phone has Snapdragon 801 ARM proc. See the link below..
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/03/26/xiaomi-mi4-running-windows-phone-spotted-in-the-wild/
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This is not correct I am afraid. They made windows 10 running on Xiaomi MI4. The phone has Snapdragon 801 ARM proc. See the link below..
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/03/26/xiaomi-mi4-running-windows-phone-spotted-in-the-wild/
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That's Windows Phone, which is different from Windows 10. I haven't heard anything about Microsoft merging Windows 10 and Windows Phone.
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That's Windows Phone, which is different from Windows 10. I haven't heard anything about Microsoft merging Windows 10 and Windows Phone.
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Wow are you retarded? (No offense ) Windows 10 is the same across all platforms and no that is not Windows Phone on Mi4 it is Windows 10 running on it. Windows 10 is also coming to Raspberry Pi 2 which is running an ARM Processor too. Microsoft want's to make a Windows 10 ROM to get more people on it. So yes it is possible to be running on the Tab S but I'm unsure about Samsung's Exynos.
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This is not correct I am afraid. They made windows 10 running on Xiaomi MI4. The phone has Snapdragon 801 ARM proc. See the link below..
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/03/26/xiaomi-mi4-running-windows-phone-spotted-in-the-wild/
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feature which will most likely expand to all Android smartphones in the future
in the same aticle never say never
i hope we can don an dual boot with this woud be awesome 1 android 1 windows swith store
Kahun said:
Wow are you retarded? (No offense ) Windows 10 is the same across all platforms and no that is not Windows Phone on Mi4 it is Windows 10 running on it. Windows 10 is also coming to Raspberry Pi 2 which is running an ARM Processor too. Microsoft want's to make a Windows 10 ROM to get more people on it. So yes it is possible to be running on the Tab S but I'm unsure about Samsung's Exynos.
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According to PC msg we are both retards.
http://asia.pcmag.com/microsoft-sur...indows-rt-is-dead-but-microsoft-hasnt-learned
According to the article there are two versions of Windows 10. The first one is the normal desktop Windows, which is direct successor of the (/sarcasm) beloved Windows 8 (/endsarcasm). The second version is a mobile version that runs on both x86 and ARM, but presumably has a smaller footprint and optimised for touch screen control. In order words, it is Windows Phone in all but name.
Running x86 software on ARM isn't impossible, but incredible costly. The ARM processor would have to emulate the x86 hardware, and all hardware emulations are expensive (in terms of processing power and not money). Anyone who had ever used the android emulator that comes with the android development kit knows how painfully slow it is even on a i7 CPU. Trying to run a legacy Windows x86 software on a weaker ARM processor would be insane.
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According to PC msg we are both retards.
http://asia.pcmag.com/microsoft-sur...indows-rt-is-dead-but-microsoft-hasnt-learned
According to the article there are two versions of Windows 10. The first one is the normal desktop Windows, which is direct successor of the (/sarcasm) beloved Windows 8 (/endsarcasm). The second version is a mobile version that runs on both x86 and ARM, but presumably has a smaller footprint and optimised for touch screen control. In order words, it is Windows Phone in all but name.
Running x86 software on ARM isn't impossible, but incredible costly. The ARM processor would have to emulate the x86 hardware, and all hardware emulations are expensive (in terms of processing power and not money). Anyone who had ever used the android emulator that comes with the android development kit knows how painfully slow it is even on a i7 CPU. Trying to run a legacy Windows x86 software on a weaker ARM processor would be insane.
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To be honest we can't say anything until Microsoft releases Windows 10 later this year!
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To be honest we can't say anything until Microsoft releases Windows 10 later this year!
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jes but i still hope it will work woud be great
Windows 10 on Tab s 10.5
Kahun said:
Wow are you retarded? (No offense ) Windows 10 is the same across all platforms and no that is not Windows Phone on Mi4 it is Windows 10 running on it. Windows 10 is also coming to Raspberry Pi 2 which is running an ARM Processor too. Microsoft want's to make a Windows 10 ROM to get more people on it. So yes it is possible to be running on the Tab S but I'm unsure about Samsung's Exynos.
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Where Where Where can I find a tutorial on installing windows 10 on my Tab S? I really want to be able to install netbeans because my freakin laptop got stolen and all I can use is AIDE right now.
Please Help!!!
Completely different platforms, it's not a pc.
If it can eventually be emulated on an android tablet I doubt it will be much use.
TacoMeatDaGod said:
Where Where Where can I find a tutorial on installing windows 10 on my Tab S? I really want to be able to install netbeans because my freakin laptop got stolen and all I can use is AIDE right now.
Please Help!!!
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You won't get Windows 10 on it as theres no drivers
How come this guys can?
www indiegogo com/projects/magicstick-most-powerful-pc-stick-8gb-ram/x/12430960
How can i install windows 10 on samsung tab s?
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How can i install windows 10 on samsung tab s?
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Guess you didn't read the entire thread...YOU CAN NOT INSTALL WIN 10 ON YOUR 10.5 Tab S
2 Biggest reasons why not:
You don't have the proper processor in the 10.5
You'll most likely never get any drivers for the hardware in it