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[Q] Just flashed Gingerburst. Performance sucks

Since I am not allowed to post in the development forum, I am making a new thread here. I just flashed the rom. Followed the instructions, partitioned, installed, rebooted and installed A2SD then rebooted. The performance is terrible. Gmail crashes. And I got continuous messages of com.android.acore (and com.android.phone) is not responding. At a time these pop ups, stop but running apps like the market or even People is very slow. I checked and it consumes hell lot of RAM, only 83mb are free or 140 after a few "kills". A lot less than the 220mb of stock froyo. I am not sure what kills the performance though. Is this normal for this rom?

I had the same issue, after a few hours of putting up with it I gave up and flashed CM7.1 instead
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At least you guys got it to work. I kept getting bootloops when I tried it.

I reflashed it. Now it seems I achieved a more proper installation. What I mean? Some widgets like the friendstream or the people widget are installed by default to some of the Sense "tabs" or however these are called. At my first installation all Sense tabs were blank. Overally, it seems more responsive, I still get the errors at boot but not at the same amount. Again, its speed is not like the stock rom though. So tomorrow I will flash another one. Any suggestions? I want something fast with 720p recording support.

Well I'm on CyanogenMod 7.1 and its very fast and stable. Its quoted as having 720p recording but some people are debating that, I haven't actually checked yet. It is an aosp ROM though so no sense.
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I had that issue before, apps take a minute to load.
Solution:
1. Make sure u have class 4 or higher SD card (no class 10).
2. Have at least a 1gb ext4 partition (1024mb, not 1000mb) I had 519mb before, changed to 1gb and its ok now.
3. Create FAT32 before you create ext4, won't work the other way around.
4. Try fix permissions in Rom manager to fix the force close issue.
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Or maybe u have a corrupted zip file. (somehow)
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muku_ said:
Since I am not allowed to post in the development forum, I am making a new thread here. I just flashed the rom. Followed the instructions, partitioned, installed, rebooted and installed A2SD then rebooted. The performance is terrible. Gmail crashes. And I got continuous messages of com.android.acore (and com.android.phone) is not responding. At a time these pop ups, stop but running apps like the market or even People is very slow. I checked and it consumes hell lot of RAM, only 83mb are free or 140 after a few "kills". A lot less than the 220mb of stock froyo. I am not sure what kills the performance though. Is this normal for this rom?
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Did you full wipe before flashing?
To full wipe, you must;
Factory wipe/reset
Then in mounts/storage; format Data, format dalvic, format system and format sdext.
Then in advanced; Wipe Dalvic cache.
What has happened, is remnants of whatever previous ROM(s) you came from have remained in the system. Performing full-wipe above clears everything for your new ROM.
Not always necessary when flashing updates of the same ROM, but definitely a good idea if switching to another...

777ace said:
Did you full wipe before flashing?
To full wipe, you must;
Factory wipe/reset
Then in mounts/storage; format Data, format dalvic, format system and format sdext.
Then in advanced; Wipe Dalvic cache.
What has happened, is remnants of whatever previous ROM(s) you came from have remained in the system. Performing full-wipe above clears everything for your new ROM.
Not always necessary when flashing updates of the same ROM, but definitely a good idea if switching to another...
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I definitely didn't do a full wipe. I only did the factory reset and i installed after. I was in stock rom before, I don't know if this is relevant to the full wipe. Anyway, I'll try that and see if it fixes the speed problems.
sebastianlow said:
I had that issue before, apps take a minute to load.
Solution:
1. Make sure u have class 4 or higher SD card (no class 10).
2. Have at least a 1gb ext4 partition (1024mb, not 1000mb) I had 519mb before, changed to 1gb and its ok now.
3. Create FAT32 before you create ext4, won't work the other way around.
4. Try fix permissions in Rom manager to fix the force close issue.
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I fixed the permissions via the recovery menu. I also did the partitions via recovery, so I guess the procedure should be good. 1gb of ext, 64mb swap and the rest Fat.
I was about to order a new sd, because I use the stock one, 4gb class 4. I was thinking about getting a class 10, why did you tell me to avoid class 10? It should be the fastest, no?

Ok I reinstalled after wiping everything except boot from the recovery. Still the same issues. What I have noticed, is that the first time Gingerburst boots, when everything is in phone memory, the phone is fast. With no lags. After I reboot, to install the A2SD zip and then i start again my phone, then the performance sucks. Could it be the sd card? It's the stock card, class 4. Could it be the partitioning? I did it from the recovery. 1gb ext partition, 64mb swap, the rest Fat. Could it be the script installing A2SD problematic? I downloaded from the gingerburst site.

Droidzone highly recommends to do the partitioning with Gparted. Also the R/W speed of your card matters a lot in the speed of the ROM. My stock SD card has a writing speed of 4MB/sec and 5MB/sec for reading. This is definitely too slow to support data2sd, that's why I have ordered a class 6 sd card. You should do it too

UltimateGoblin said:
Droidzone highly recommends to do the partitioning with Gparted. Also the R/W speed of your card matters a lot in the speed of the ROM. My stock SD card has a writing speed of 4MB/sec and 5MB/sec for reading. This is definitely too slow to support data2sd, that's why I have ordered a class 6 sd card. You should do it too
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I tried gparted at first but the gparted live disk didn't recognize my phone connected to the usb, so I then tried from the recovery. By the way why's everyone suggesting class 6 instead of class 10 sd cards?

Forget GingerBurst, it's a very laggy Gingerbread ROM. If you want Gingerbread with Data2SD, go for SuperNova (also by droidzone). I've experienced what you've experienced (lag, bootloops, fc's) despite my full wiping before flashing the ROM. My SD card is also partitioned by GParted, and it's Class 4 only, but I manage 1800+ Quadrant score w/ it. I went back to StarBurst (froyo) after consistently testing it to be faster than either GingerBurst or SuperNova. droidzone himself uses StarBurst for his personal phone.

No nid swap partition
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Droidzone said no class 10 :/
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Damn I guess it's the rom itself then. Although for some reason the lag starts after i install the A2SD. The first time the rom boots, before i install the script for data to sd, everything's pretty fast. I will order in any case a 16gb class 6 sd which i need for the extra storage, test with it and if the problem persists I'll try other roms like supernova you suggested or Leedroid. I am pretty new to this stuff so I don't know which is the best

I can confirm I had the same experience, it was great until I flashed the a2sd script. After that it was unusable.. that was with a class 6 card too
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I went back from GingerBurst to SuperNova too; now I am testing Unofficial BravoS by coolexe (because I really like Sense 2.1) and seems very good so far, the only thing I really dislike is A2SD+. A version based on Sibere's would be really great.

It's a bit of a relief to hear that other people have met the same issues as me with Gingerburst. I've already ordered my 16gb class 6 although from what you've told me, things won't get better I can't understand why the developer doesn't let us now that his Rom has still issues... I'll take a look to coolexe once I get my new memory. Anyone tried Leedroid HD?

The Rom is definitely fine, its just how you set it up...
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When to partition?

I have the HTC Evo 4G. I am currently rooted and I am running the latest FreshEvo rom.
As of recent I have been getting the low-space error on my phone. I really do not have much installed and I use Apps2SD.
I am considering swapping to a new ROM today or tomorrow.
My question is: When do I need to partition the SDcard?
With Gingerbread or Sense 3.0?
I am hoping I was supposed to have to do it before upgrading to Fresh's ROM because I find it hard to believe I am actually low on space.
Thanks for the input guys!

I have never used Fresh Roms, so as far as that goes, I don't know, but you partition your SD card when you want to use a script like DTA2SD that will install all of your downloaded apps to the SD card.
It is recommended that the SD card be at least a class 4, but I have used a class 2, and most apps run fine.
It doesn't really matter when you partition the card, if the rom you are using has a built in a2sd, it should automatically detect the partition, and transfer all apps to the sdcard upon first, maybe second boot. If the rom uses DTA2SD, you can go to the terminal emulator and type "a2sd reinstall", or maybe "a2sd install" I can't remember which at the moment. That will reset everything, and move all downloaded apps to the sd.
When you partition your card I recommend you wipe dalvik, though it is not necessary.

Cool! Thank you very much.

I've been partitioned on every ROM since I first discovered DT A2SD months and months ago....
It's really the only way to go.

I'm going to be partitioning my SD tonight as well. I've been getting the low space notification too, as the new Flash program is something like 17 MB of space, and I'm not giving up my Sense that easily. Hopefully all goes smoothly.

Just remember that you will lose ALL information on the SDCard when you partition, so back it up first!
Also, remember to upgrade to ext3 after the initial partitioning.

Bringing this back up.
I did the partition correctly. I tried a new ROM and I really dislike it.
I want to use another ROM but it does not have the Apps2SD (Baked-in) how would I go about using Fresh's ROM but get the Apps2SD thing to work on the entire ROM?

[Q] Help with getting custom rom and apps on SD to work properly

Hi,
I know this properly have been asked many times ind here before, but I hope someone can help me out anyway.
To solve the classic problem with "low memory", I tried to root and install CM7 to my phone. Which I did manged to do, also more then just one time. But I allways run into the memory problem later on. So I read a few more threads, which said that I just use S2E and A2SD together. I even installed A2SDGUI.
But know matter what I do, I allways sees the problem with "low memory" eventually, perhaps 4 months later perhaps sooner. To my understanding, this should not be a problem, when you use S2E and A2SD scripts. Which make me think that I haven't done it right.
So my wish is that someone can give me a detailed manual to follow, so I can get past the f...... memory problem, and especially how to test to se if it works.
My SD Card is a Samsung 16GB class 10 card. I know your not excited about class 10 cards, but I'l give it a go, and I'llthink I have a smaller class 8 at home.
I like CM7, but as CM is my first and only custom rom I have tried, I can't say I don't like the others. So I'm not bound to any version, I just want to get the newest possible version of Android, which is fully functioning.
Hope someone can and will help.

Pick any ROM you want, open the .zip file, go to /system/etc/init.d/ and delete the 10apps2sd script (it can be named like this or something very similiar), if there is no a2sd built then it's even better - dont do anything.
Now download - http://d-h.st/1vK , place it on the root of sdcard.
Wipe everything, make sure you have 1-1.5GB ext3 or ext4 partition (i suggest 1GB)
Flash the ROM, and then without leaving recovery flash the above a2sd script. ( http://d-h.st/1vK )
Voila, done you have 1 - 1.5GB internal memory. (depending on how big you ext partition is)
Keep in mind this script will keep all kind of app data on SD, so it might be slower (most a2sd scripts keeps /data/ partition on internal memory for performance reasons)
But since you're looking for a unlimited space it should fit you.
If you dont know how to flash a ROM, or ROOT then you need to read some flashing guides first.

Well I would like both when some app are on the internal memory, and other on the sd card. Cause some apps don't work well, when on sd card. So if there are a way to make this happen, it would be great. But that isn't the case is it?
Any I coming to try this.

It seems to be working, but when I through Titanium Backup restore a game (Big Business), I can't start that. It begins to load, and the switch back to startscreen. Then it switchs back and forth, before it eventually stops the game.
Is that because the backup is from another setup, with a2sd's?

Try to remove the application data and try again.

Nope, that didn't help

[Q] A2sd never works...

Hello folks
My issue is this:
GSM Desire
Class 10 SD
4ext Recovery (used to partition sd)
I'm trying to install various JB roms. The a2sd never works. When I download the gui it says it can't start because either no scripts, no partition, etc.
I've tried a lot of Roms including ones where a2sd is meant to be built in. I've also installed from Terminal and it seems to optimise all the apps on reboot but internal memory is still the standard and apps still in Internal (it's meant to go up to my ext4 partition right? it's about 1.5G)
I've worked my way through these (can't post the link but its the Alchemister custom rom blogspot for the Desire.)
each one the same problem.
Checkext and diskspace both see the partition. Strangely, L2SD seems to crash each of the Roms if I install it.
So far the only Rom to work correctly is a Supernova Gingerbread one. It gave me the 1.5G. So, the partition appears to be good.
Both are primary too.
I would like a JB one as the supernova rom is very laggy.
Running a Miui at the moment and also really liked the Touchwiz one on the list as well.
I only started doing this two days ago as my contract was up so I'm very new to this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Let's make sure your partition works. Download the rom in my sig. It's a very stable rom, that has a script integrated that moves data/app and dalvik cache to sd-ext. Flash it, then install a few apps. If the internal storage gets filled up quickly, then it probably is a partition fault, and you'll have to repartition.
If it does work, then you did something wrong when you installed the other roms.
Are you sure you did a full wipe before installing all those roms?

a2sd problem solved
Thankyou Andoo,
I've got it working now. It was two things that were confusing me. They were mentioned in the partitioning guide that you attached.
1. I was not aware that you were not meant to see the full size of your Ext4 partition as internal storage. For anyone else with this problem, you can see how your Ext partition is being used if you download Freespace app from the market. I had assumed that you could see the ext as internal space as that is what a few of the earlier Roms i looked at said that that would happen. (it does for the Supernova Rom)
2. When I was downloading and installing apps such as FB or Maps, they were still taking a big chunk out of my internal memory so I assumed that it wasn't working. However, when I chose to put the data as well as cache to the Ext, it hardly took anything out of my internal storage at all. I have a class 10 card and so far everything seems fairly brisk and responsive. I Chose Y/Y/Y when installing a2sd from Terminal instead of the recommended Y/N/Y.
If things start to get slow, I might try the Mount2SD script in the attachment -I think this allows you to chose individual large apps to go to Ext instead of all of them.
Thanks again for your help. I now have a useful and quick phone again.
PS the MildWild 9.5 Rom you suggested - I hadinstalled this before and had real problems with the WiFi disconnecting every couple of seconds and the same thing happened again when I installed from your link. I'm using the Touchwiz at the moment and all seems well.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Let's make sure your partition works. Download the rom in my sig. It's a very stable rom, that has a script integrated that moves data/app and dalvik cache to sd-ext. Flash it, then install a few apps. If the internal storage gets filled up quickly, then it probably is a partition fault, and you'll have to repartition.
If it does work, then you did something wrong when you installed the other roms.
Are you sure you did a full wipe before installing all those roms?
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Desire on CM7 slowing down...

I ran my old desire for a year or so on the Supernova Rom, but got bored with the serious lag, It got better from time to time when I cleared the dalvik cache, and reformatted the SD card. But Igave up in the end, wiped everything, reformatted the card again, and loaded Cyanogenmod 7.
It was a revelation.Everything was really snappy, and the Desire was like a new phone again.
But the troubles are returning. I started getting some lag opening apps a week or so ago, and now I am starting to get forced closures too, and the lag is getting worse.
What's going on? Is there anything I can do to stop this from happening?

Don't bother wiping dalvik, it simply rebuilds afterwards which is why it takes so long to boot...
Are you using the ROM with an sd partition, how did you create it? Any particular A2SD script?
Max 2GB ext4 partition should be done using gparted or 4EXT recovery only, not clockworkmod or minitool partition wizard.
(Remember also that your hardware is starting to age, and there are limits / apps which the Desire was never designed to handle)

eddiehk6 said:
Don't bother wiping dalvik, it simply rebuilds afterwards which is why it takes so long to boot...
Are you using the ROM with an sd partition, how did you create it? Any particular A2SD script?
Max 2GB ext4 partition should be done using gparted or 4EXT recovery only, not clockworkmod or minitool partition wizard.
(Remember also that your hardware is starting to age, and there are limits / apps which the Desire was never designed to handle)
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Thanks
Yes, Iam using an SD partition created with gparted - my laptop runs Linux. I am using S2E.
What's puzzling me is that it ran really fast and snappy to start with, but is now slowing down again. I am getting regular timeouts -but if I choose "wait" its usually OK. But sometimes I get a forcedclose. I don't want to have to keep reinstalling the ROM to keep it fresh!

Trogladyte said:
Thanks
Yes, Iam using an SD partition created with gparted - my laptop runs Linux. I am using S2E.
What's puzzling me is that it ran really fast and snappy to start with, but is now slowing down again. I am getting regular timeouts -but if I choose "wait" its usually OK. But sometimes I get a forcedclose. I don't want to have to keep reinstalling the ROM to keep it fresh!
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So the partition is made correctly, which is good :good:
Check your S2E settings, what have you moved to the partition?
It works best if you only move apps and dalvik cache to sd-ext. You should keep app data (e.g. saved gaems and app preferences) on your actual internal memory for speed and stability.
You should also be s-off and on cm7r2 hboot to maximise your internal memory if you have many apps. This will work best with the above, and applies regardless of your A2SD setup.
If S2E is already set to move apps and dalvik only, not sure what else it could be. Any other 'tweaks' / scripts / memory managers / task killers which can do more harm than good? Does it happen with any particular app?

Thanks.
Sorry to be so long to reply. Had to take some time out as I snapped the tendon that operates my left thumb. Yes,really.
Anyway. The problem - which is getting worse - may be that I have application data on the SD partition.And S2E won't let me change it - greyed out. Why would that be?

Trogladyte said:
Thanks.
Sorry to be so long to reply. Had to take some time out as I snapped the tendon that operates my left thumb. Yes,really.
Anyway. The problem - which is getting worse - may be that I have application data on the SD partition.And S2E won't let me change it - greyed out. Why would that be?
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Well at least we're narrowing down the issue. I believe app data on sd-ext is almost certainly the cause of slowdowns. It works much better when stored on your actual internal memory, as nand flash is faster than your sdcard.
No idea why it won't let you change it back, I've never used it myself. I've looked at the Play Store first screenshot. Should be a case of unticking, and rebooting. Do you remember when you first configured it? Did you tick everything?
You may not be able to move it back to internal if you are on stock hboot and you have more than 150MB of app data. i.e. there's not enough free space to move it back?
It may be a case of full wiping and starting from scratch:
- Titanium backup of all apps
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot
- Full wipe, flash ROM
- Install and configure S2E
- (If above doesn't work, use another app like Darktremor A2SD, tick apps and dalvik only)
- Reboot
- Restore apps
- Check all your partitions using an app like DiskUsage. You should have much less free wasted space on /system, 287MB internal memory (/data) filling up with app data, and your sd-ext filling up with apps and dalvik.
Take it easy with the thumb!