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1) I have an ext3 partition on my SD card, which means my Desire is A2SD/A2SD+ compliant right? But whether A2SD or A2SD+ is in effect depends on the ROM I'm running - am I right to say this?
2) What exactly is Hboot? I seem to recall having read somewhere that Hboot is an alternative to A2SD... can anybody clarify? (And before you start flaming that there are a thousand and one topics on this already, I tried searching, but search was down)
1. Yes that's correct.
2. Hboot us essentially a different set of partitions for your desire's system. Currently your desire has internal memory split into 250mb system, 150mb data and a cache partition. The rom goes in system, apps in data. If the rom is small (aosp roms are smaller than sense due to the lack of sense which takes up tons of space) you can flash a different hboot which will change the layout of your phones internal memory. N1 table for instance has about 175 for system and a larger data partition, while the oxygen hboot has a tiny (90mb) system partition and a massive (300 odd mb) data partition negating the need for a2sd+ at all.
Hope that helps
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lick_the_fish said:
1. Yes that's correct.
2. Hboot us essentially a different set of partitions for your desire's system. Currently your desire has internal memory split into 250mb system, 150mb data and a cache partition. The rom goes in system, apps in data. If the rom is small (aosp roms are smaller than sense due to the lack of sense which takes up tons of space) you can flash a different hboot which will change the layout of your phones internal memory. N1 table for instance has about 175 for system and a larger data partition, while the oxygen hboot has a tiny (90mb) system partition and a massive (300 odd mb) data partition negating the need for a2sd+ at all.
Hope that helps
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Super informative, better than I could have hoped for Thanks!
Anyway I'm going to flash CM7 now, but on my previous ROM (GingerVillain), I'm pretty sure A2SD/A2SD+ was working fine, but in Titanium Backup it shows that my internal data partition was pretty congested. Any ideas?
fterh said:
Super informative, better than I could have hoped for Thanks!
Anyway I'm going to flash CM7 now, but on my previous ROM (GingerVillain), I'm pretty sure A2SD/A2SD+ was working fine, but in Titanium Backup it shows that my internal data partition was pretty congested. Any ideas?
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I'm no expert and don't fully understand how a2sd+ installs apps etc. I don't know if it uses phone data first and then ext partition or what.
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fterh said:
Super informative, better than I could have hoped for Thanks!
Anyway I'm going to flash CM7 now, but on my previous ROM (GingerVillain), I'm pretty sure A2SD/A2SD+ was working fine, but in Titanium Backup it shows that my internal data partition was pretty congested. Any ideas?
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Titanium Backup doesn't always show the correct info when it comes to available memory.
On gingervillian you have to use a dalvik-cache to ext script to create space on the internal memory, if you didn't do that then it can fill up quickly.
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I'm no expert and don't fully understand how a2sd+ installs apps etc. I don't know if it uses phone data first and then ext partition or what.
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a2sd+ uses the ext partition on you sd card to move the apk file of applications. however, there are still some parts of the app, mainly the dalvik cache, which remain on the data partition in your phone's internal memory; that's why your internal storage still decreases, even when using an a2sd+-enabled ROM. there are some scripts which will move this dalvik cache to the sd card as well, but be sure you read carefully before applying and pay close attention to whether your card is fast enough so as not to generate performance issues (generally, you would need at least a class-4 card, with a class-6 or higher being recommended)
Hi everybody!
I've a Desire with stock rom 2.3 (and no root yet) and it worked fine until last week.
If I try to install a new app I receive an error about free memory space. I've already try to move all apps to sd but nothing, I can't install anything.
I've try also to do an hard reset and fully wipe/factory reset (from recovery) and for a while it seems to works, but if I install some apps the problem come back.
Why? What can I do?
A friend suggest that maybe there are some directory in filesystem from older app (now unistalled) and, since I haven't root permession, I can't remove them. With root permission can I fix it?
Thanks!
I flashed a custom rom on my desire which used the sd card as internal storage. Problem solved.
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Read this guide to s-off, and install a custom recovery
Use this guide to create a 1gb ext4 partition on your sd card. No swap.
Download a custom rom from the htc desire dev section and flash it. I would recommend milwilds redux rom. It will automatically install apps to the parittion and you will have space.
thanks for reply!
I'd like to fix this problem without flash new rom, eventually with root only. It's possible?
When I bought this there was space enough, why now I haven't? Factory reset does not erase all partition and sistems directories?
Thanks!
Also, before you flash the Rom, best to flash recommended hboot if necessary, read the first post or search each thread.
This way you use your internal memory more efficiently.
deshex said:
thanks for reply!
I'd like to fix this problem without flash new rom, eventually with root only. It's possible?
When I bought this there was space enough, why now I haven't? Factory reset does not erase all partition and sistems directories?
Thanks!
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Factory reset only deletes user data.
When you bought it, you didn't have apps installed, and probably apps were smaller back then.
What are you trying to say? That you want to flash a stock rooted ROM?
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Factory reset only deletes user data.
When you bought it, you didn't have apps installed, and probably apps were smaller back then.
What are you trying to say? That you want to flash a stock rooted ROM?
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Nope.
All my apps were installed somewhere in filesystem (maybe in /system?). My question is: when I do a factory reset, what I'm going to erase? Only user data in user directories, or all content of every system directory? (of course, not system files).
I'm only trying to understand why when I bought the phone I've a "lot" of space for my app and now, after a factory reset, I've not enough free space to install more then 2/3.
Example: I wipe/fr, reboot and config the phone; then I try to install Ruzzle (16Mb),Whatsapp (9Mb) and FB(18Mb). Now if I try to install any other apps I get the alert message of free space. Same error if I try to record a video or take a photo.
I think there is something wrong..
I hope that you can read and understand what I'm writing, my english is a little rusty
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Nope.
All my apps were installed somewhere in filesystem (maybe in /system?). My question is: when I do a factory reset, what I'm going to erase? Only user data in user directories, or all content of every system directory? (of course, not system files).
I'm only trying to understand why when I bought the phone I've a "lot" of space for my app and now, after a factory reset, I've not enough free space to install more then 2/3.
Example: I wipe/fr, reboot and config the phone; then I try to install Ruzzle (16Mb),Whatsapp (9Mb) and FB(18Mb). Now if I try to install any other apps I get the alert message of free space. Same error if I try to record a video or take a photo.
I think there is something wrong..
I hope that you can read and understand what I'm writing, my english is a little rusty
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A factory reset will wipe /data, dalvik cache and /cache.
When did you buy your phone? I remember that, when I first bought my Desire, facebook was only 8mbin size, and moved to sd, it only took 2 mb of internal memory. Plus, large apps require large dalvik cache. That's why your memory gets filled so easily.
You can resolve easily and keeping your stock ROM (but you'll need a FAST microSD card, my 32GB is class 10):
1) Root and s-off your device
2) Format your microSD with an EXT2, EXT3 or EXT4 partition of 1GB, then the rest as FAT32 (you can do it directly from phone using the 4ext recovery, or you can format the card from PC using a tool for partitioning which supports linux formats... I don't know if I can mention names in this thread).
3) Install INT2EXT or INT2EXT+ from recovery.
4) You'll have 1GB internal memory with no out-of-space problems.
That's all
Stock kernel doesn't support ext4 nor ext3, use only ext2 if u want to keep it.
Anyway, I believe that supernova ROM would be a much better option, it's basically stock GB made by HTC with some tweaks and script for more space.
Thanks for replies!
I still do not understand why I've no memory for apps after a factory reset; if I wipe all data, I restore all space, like when I bought the phone. Ok, apps are bigger than 2 years ago, but not so bigger that with 3 apps I occupy all space!
Anyway I'm considering to upgrade to a newer version; if I must give root permission, install tools, repartition sdcard and so on, I might as well to flash a newer version.
Curiosity: are there filesystem directories that are not intrested from a wipe? Differently, which directories will not wiped during a factory reset?
Thank you very much!
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Thanks for replies!
I still do not understand why I've no memory for apps after a factory reset; if I wipe all data, I restore all space, like when I bought the phone. Ok, apps are bigger than 2 years ago, but not so bigger that with 3 apps I occupy all space!
Anyway I'm considering to upgrade to a newer version; if I must give root permission, install tools, repartition sdcard and so on, I might as well to flash a newer version.
Curiosity: are there filesystem directories that are not intrested from a wipe? Differently, which directories will not wiped during a factory reset?
Thank you very much!
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yes what your seeing is caused by the apps being a lot bigger now. Facebook is a lot bigger.
And its impossible for your apps to be going to system. You'll have to root and use a2sd
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dethrat said:
yes what your seeing is caused by the apps being a lot bigger now. Facebook is a lot bigger.
And its impossible for your apps to be going to system. You'll have to root and use a2sd
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I've install over 40 apps until this problem, including big app like FB.. strange things...
So, how much memory I have?
Rom 4.x for desire has a different partitions? If I just flash a new rom (like 4.0/4.1), will I fix this problem?
Thanks!
deshex said:
I've install over 40 apps until this problem, including big app like FB.. strange things...
So, how much memory I have?
Rom 4.x for desire has a different partitions? If I just flash a new rom (like 4.0/4.1), will I fix this problem?
Thanks!
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You need a rom with an a2sd script, regardless of it being GB, ICS or JB.
Good, I will search in subforum for a new rom.
Maybe it's a bit OT, but JB rom are stable enough for daily use? Can you suggest me a JB rom with a2sd script? (or even ICS, if JB is not stable enough).
Thank you!
I use jb as a daily driver. The ROM in my sig is the most stable jb ROM I've tried. It has very few soft reboots and has decent speed. It also has a2sd. (Activated through terminal after flashing rom)
However if you really need stability, speed and reliability I would highly recommend using gingerbread. Mildwilds ROMs are great and most of them have an a2sd script as well, which is automatically activated. Try the one based on redux.
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I have a similar problem to this. I own a HTC Desire that is rooted, with Clockworkmod recovery environment, and I got it running Cyanogen mod 7.2.0.1.
So I was reading around this problem, and there are several solutions. It seems the most foolproof way is to format your SD card and partition it so that you have an EXT3 partition, and a FAT32 partition as has already been suggested here.. This way you can use an app to fool your phone into thinking that it has the EXT3 partition of the SD card to use for internal storage as well as the 150MB of internal storage it comes with. I had an 8GB SD card so I did a split of 2GB for the EXT3 partition, and 6GB for storage of music, photos, etc. etc. I followed this handy guide to do it, and it worked a treat: (sorry, have been unable to post an external link as I'm a new user.. maybe I can post this later).
When I rebooted my phone, sure enough, it showed 2GB+ of internal storage, and I can install all the apps I want. However, I'm experiencing apps hanging and crashing all the time, and I know it was caused by this most recent change. Prior to this, Cyanogenmod was running just fine! I've read a bit more into since doing this, and a lot of people reckon you shouldn't use more than a 512MB SD card partition, as anything over this causes performance issues. Others disagree, and think that anything 2GB or below should be fine. Presumably the apps hanging/crashing is because there is fragmentation of data between the SD card EXT3 partition and the actual 150MB internal storage.
It's frustrating, as other than this the phone is still a very decent handset despite it's age... it's really the storage letting it down. Before I try factory resetting (again!) and going back and trying a 512MB partition, (or just going back to having only 2 apps installed!), has any one else had experience of this?
Any help very much appreciated.
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I have a similar problem to this. I own a HTC Desire that is rooted, with Clockworkmod recovery environment, and I got it running Cyanogen mod 7.2.0.1.
So I was reading around this problem, and there are several solutions. It seems the most foolproof way is to format your SD card and partition it so that you have an EXT3 partition, and a FAT32 partition as has already been suggested here.. This way you can use an app to fool your phone into thinking that it has the EXT3 partition of the SD card to use for internal storage as well as the 150MB of internal storage it comes with. I had an 8GB SD card so I did a split of 2GB for the EXT3 partition, and 6GB for storage of music, photos, etc. etc. I followed this handy guide to do it, and it worked a treat: (sorry, have been unable to post an external link as I'm a new user.. maybe I can post this later).
When I rebooted my phone, sure enough, it showed 2GB+ of internal storage, and I can install all the apps I want. However, I'm experiencing apps hanging and crashing all the time, and I know it was caused by this most recent change. Prior to this, Cyanogenmod was running just fine! I've read a bit more into since doing this, and a lot of people reckon you shouldn't use more than a 512MB SD card partition, as anything over this causes performance issues. Others disagree, and think that anything 2GB or below should be fine. Presumably the apps hanging/crashing is because there is fragmentation of data between the SD card EXT3 partition and the actual 150MB internal storage.
It's frustrating, as other than this the phone is still a very decent handset despite it's age... it's really the storage letting it down. Before I try factory resetting (again!) and going back and trying a 512MB partition, (or just going back to having only 2 apps installed!), has any one else had experience of this?
Any help very much appreciated.
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well,I don't use gingerbread anymore.but I can say that you can't experience a good performance to use both internal and external (sd-ext) partitions to use and install your apps. better choice is to use one of them.use default a2sd of rom,or use another script to install apps only in sd-ext partition. I have used and tested a lot of roms (GB-ICS-JB) and I can say in my experiences, that you don't have problem to use an sd-ext partition with about 1.5 - 2 gb size.you can see the recommendation of devs in first post of topics, and they tell us what is the minimum-maximum size for the best performance. sorry,i can't search and give you the links,but I just had a really good smoothness and speed with some scripts that you can try them: like mounts2sd, ad2sdx,... you can find link of them with search. and you can use cm7 int2sd version...but it has a bigger size than normal cm7. here is this topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357257
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Which guide did you use to partition, should be done with gparted or 4ext recovery.
-Ext4 should also be slightly faster than ext3.
-Anything up to 2gb is sufficient. Don't know where you read about limiting it to 512mb. The whole idea is to be able to install more apps on the partition, 512mb will fill up a lot quicker than 2gb...
-you can use space more efficiently by s-off and changing hboot, so you have more than 150 MB of internal. You are currently on stock hboot and have a lot of free wasted space on your /system partition
-depending on your Rom, stick with a single a2sd script, it may be built in or need to be activated, read the Rom thread. Then let it do it's job to move apps to the partition
chromium96 said:
Read this guide to s-off, and install a custom recovery
Use this guide to create a 1gb ext4 partition on your sd card. No swap.
Download a custom rom from the htc desire dev section and flash it. I would recommend milwilds redux rom. It will automatically install apps to the parittion and you will have space.
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Thank you. I've been searching for some time
Hi guys..
Hope someone will be so nice to help me..
So..I have this desire and it was running with the supernova rom. Problem is it gives me a annoying issue that i didn't manage to solve...not even reset it nor reflashing the rom. It always comes out again..
I decided to try some other roms...and in the last few days i flashed so many, but i never managed to make one to see the ext* partition...at second boot it always shows only some MB as internal memory.. I tried to do it on any way...formatting sd withing the recovery, from pc, flashing alignment..nothing..
Now i'm asking...do i have to have or to do anything special before flashing one of those roms? Why the supernova works with no problem and all the other never?
Thank you in advance
How did u partition ur sdcard?
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
You should partition your sd card as above, no alignment or anything needed as gparted or 4EXT make properly aligned partitions.
Depending on the ROM, you may still not 'see' the ext partition i.e. you won't see "internal + ext" as your reported internal memory like supernova, but your apps still go to sd-ext. Most of the time you just have to keep your apps on internal (i.e. don't 'move to SD'), which tricks the apps to sd-ext.
Some roms require you activate A2SD via terminal commands, others have built in scripts, see each rom thread for details. Make sure you're also on the right hboot (requires s-off) to maximise actual internal memory /data).
A good way to check is to use an app like 'Diskusage' to browse all your partitions. As long as you're sd-ext is filling up, it's working
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How did u partition ur sdcard?
Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
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I tried every possible way...as i told.. From recovery and from pc...
Titanium backup actually sees the ext partition...but..when i install the app...after a while internal memory gets full...so..
I don't know...i'm..disappointed and frustrated... Don't get why only tha supernova works as it should without any problem...
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You should partition your sd card as above, no alignment or anything needed as gparted or 4EXT make properly aligned partitions.
Depending on the ROM, you may still not 'see' the ext partition i.e. you won't see "internal + ext" as your reported internal memory like supernova, but your apps still go to sd-ext. Most of the time you just have to keep your apps on internal (i.e. don't 'move to SD'), which tricks the apps to sd-ext.
Some roms require you activate A2SD via terminal commands, others have built in scripts, see each rom thread for details. Make sure you're also on the right hboot (requires s-off) to maximise actual internal memory /data).
A good way to check is to use an app like 'Diskusage' to browse all your partitions. As long as you're sd-ext is filling up, it's working
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Thank you..i will try...
Again..just tried with another one...and...as much as i put back my apps...internal memory gets full...
I don't know what rom is the right one..too many..and too complicated chosing the right one...
I just wish i could have sense and the working ext partition...
Cell is rooted and s-off... Hboot..dunno....it says 0.93.001
Thanks for the answers..
darkchild_74 said:
Thank you..i will try...
Again..just tried with another one...and...as much as i put back my apps...internal memory gets full...
I don't know what rom is the right one..too many..and too complicated chosing the right one...
I just wish i could have sense and the working ext partition...
Cell is rooted and s-off... Hboot..dunno....it says 0.93.001
Thanks for the answers..
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How many apps do you have? over 50?
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How many apps do you have? over 50?
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Yeap...last time i tried to put back apps from titanium backup it told 81...i wasn't putting back them all..but surely more than 50
darkchild_74 said:
Yeap...last time i tried to put back apps from titanium backup it told 81...i wasn't putting back them all..but surely more than 50
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What rom did you try, except supernova?
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What rom did you try, except supernova?
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Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
darkchild_74 said:
Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
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Ok. Now let me explain what happens.
Supernova has a script that moves data/data to sd-ext. Data/data is the folder that occupies most of the data partition. It's the application data itself.
The other ROMs leave data/data on the internal memory, for performance reasons, and move other stuffs, like data/app, or dalvik cache to sd-ext.
You have many apps, so only moving dalvik cache and data/app isn't enough. You should be using ROMs that use INT2EXT or INT2SD scripts, like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961URL
Or, use the INT2EXT4 script from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
darkchild_74 said:
Cool3d, LeeDrOiD, and so many other i don't remember...
Just tried RunnymedeMod...seems that it uses the ext partition...but...i get the low memory space warning anyway...it's..useless...
THe only one wichi works for me is supernova..
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So you partitioned using 4EXT or gparted? (NOT minitool or clockworkmod recovery as recommended?) If not then backup your sd card and repartition, so we know that it's definitely properly done.
Before you reinstall all your apps in one go, just restore or install one. Then like I said, install 'Diskusage' as well, and try to find where this app has been installed to. If it's on sd-ext, then it's working, and if it's on /data, then it's not.
Depending on the ROM, some stuff will still get stored on the /data (internal memory) partition. So there is always an upper limit to how many apps you can install. Most of the time, app data gets saved on internal. Sometimes dalvik-cache also gets stored there, but you may be able to move it to ext.
Regardless of which ROM or A2SD method or other script, the first step is to work out and understand what is being stored where, hence why I keep recommending 'Diskusage'
Also you are still on stock hboot, which has a very low /data (internal memory) partition, only 147MB. Some ROMs are better on other hboots before you flash them as they have a smaller /system size, and thus a larger /data partition. For instance, many ROMs fit on cm7r2 hboot, with a larger 287MB /data partition which fills up a lot slower. If you decide on a ROM, all of them should say which hboot is best for it, you should download them from alpharev.nl, and flash them via fastboot, guide here.
Thank you guys...so much.. SItuation is more clear now...
So..if i use that Rom with INT2EXT it should work like supernova and it would use the exp partition instead of the data partition..and it could be ok... I got performances would be worse, but again...i was already running a rom with same script..and it was ok... Would i get again that issue about cell reloading the system now and then...or it's caused by the system using the sd instead of the internal memory as data partition?
Again...i think ext partition is ok...i tried to check it...and...the system uses it.. THe problem is that with so many apps...internal memory gets full anyway...so..i have to find another solution...
I checked..and i always read that it was ok with stock hboot....i'm not such an expert...but since i never touched it..i thought it was stock... As i told, i rooted it..and turn it s-off...
I know the bad things about this cell is the low memory space, i just wanted to use it 'cause for the rest isn't bad...and even changing the internal partition...will make it better...but...dunno if it will worth the...risk..?? I
I will think about it.. Guess i can even give up on some apps...and put there only the apps i really need...it won't be a problem...
Thanks again to both
Really appreciated
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Thank you guys...so much.. SItuation is more clear now...
So..if i use that Rom with INT2EXT it should work like supernova and it would use the exp partition instead of the data partition..and it could be ok... I got performances would be worse, but again...i was already running a rom with same script..and it was ok... Would i get again that issue about cell reloading the system now and then...or it's caused by the system using the sd instead of the internal memory as data partition?
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Glad it's starting to make sense. Yes that script should work for a lot of apps. Don't know about the "reloading system" issue, but your main goal is space for apps.
Again...i think ext partition is ok...i tried to check it...and...the system uses it.. THe problem is that with so many apps...internal memory gets full anyway...so..i have to find another solution...
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It's always best if it is created using gparted or 4EXT recovery, they are the recommended methods by far.
I checked..and i always read that it was ok with stock hboot....i'm not such an expert...but since i never touched it..i thought it was stock... As i told, i rooted it..and turn it s-off...
I know the bad things about this cell is the low memory space, i just wanted to use it 'cause for the rest isn't bad...and even changing the internal partition...will make it better...but...dunno if it will worth the...risk..?? I
I will think about it.. Guess i can even give up on some apps...and put there only the apps i really need...it won't be a problem...
Thanks again to both
Really appreciated
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Yes, you are still on stock hboot. Once you understand why you may want to change hboot, it's worth the small 'risk', because that way you do actually get more internal memory . I believe on some of the ROMs you tried you simply ran out of memory faster because you didn't change hboot.
As for which hboot you use, it is entirely dependent on the ROM, you have to search this yourself. I would recommend a ROM with at least cm7r2 hboot, and a int2ext script if possible.
(And I'll keep recommend installing 'diskusage' until you try it and understand how and where all your memory is used)
Just to let you know i managed to change the hboot with proper one...partitioned the sd again via 4ext recovery..installed the right rom and it shows me the ext4 partiiom as internal memory..
Now just have to test it and see if i will get the same problem i was having with supernova, and if it works properly..
Thank you so much to both for the help...really appreciated...
i have just gotten my hand on a HTC desire over the weekend, with zero knowledge on rooting or android. after installing a few apps, namely FB, gmail, maps, flipboard and whatsapp i was given the "low memory" warning. uh... i have not even installed candy crush yet... so i did some read up on a few sites and straightaway attempted to mod the desire to increase the internal memory.
what i did :
s-off using Revolutionary tool and installed CWM.
partitioned an 8gb class10 card, 2048mb ext3 and the balance FAT32,
CyanogenMod 7.0.2.1 stable release.
Data2SD
to my delight everything work out and i get increased internal memory and i was happily re-installing all the above apps. problem is some of the apps -youtube and facebook, could not be started. after choosing "move to sd" then it can be started and used, albeit a tad laggy. the only issue left is whatsapp, after activation, it went on and on in the "initialising" for a very long time without any sign of it ever getting into working condition, i had to force close it.
i am thinking of repeating the whole process once again, clean install, but based on the read-up about data2sd, if i were to reflash rom on a device that already has data2sd prior, i would need to use Data2SDReinstaller.zip instead of Data2SDinstaller.zip that i have acquired earlier.
after googling up like mad, i still could not find anywhere to download Data2SDReinstaller.zip. hope that anyone who still has this would share it up here. Thanks a lot!
Well done for getting this far on your own! A few things you could do to improve check:
- How did you partition your sd card? Should be done in gparted or 4EXT recovery only, not minitool. Also might as well use ext4, slightly faster than ext3
- Next you should also install cyanogenmod on cm7r2 hboot to maximise your actual internal memory. Currently you're still on stock hboot with 250MB /system and you're only using ~140MB. You can convert this wasted 110MB into extra /data (internal memory), goes from 147MB to 287MB
- I personally don't recommend data2sd. Might the reason you're getting errors. Also you shouldn't need to use 'move to sd' anymore that moves to the fat32 partition not the sd-ext. Use a different script to move apps and dalvik to sd-ext, keep app data on internal.
So try:
- backup everything if you haven't already (titanium backup for apps etc)
- change hboot to cm7r2 using fastboot, search for guides
- (optional) flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- backup and repartition sd card if necessary using 4EXT as above
- full wipe and reinstall ROM again
- use another app/script such as mount2sd, S2E or darktremor A2SD, move apps and dalvik to sd-ext. They do the same thing. You won't necessarily see you're internal memory increase to 'internal + sd-ext' but it's working. Don't 'move to sd' as before, keep them on internal to trick to sd-ext.
- restore apps. Install something like diskusage to check your partitions are working.
eddiehk6 said:
Well done for getting this far on your own! A few things you could do to improve check:
- How did you partition your sd card? Should be done in gparted or 4EXT recovery only, not minitool. Also might as well use ext4, slightly faster than ext3
- Next you should also install cyanogenmod on cm7r2 hboot to maximise your actual internal memory. Currently you're still on stock hboot with 250MB /system and you're only using ~140MB. You can convert this wasted 110MB into extra /data (internal memory), goes from 147MB to 287MB
- I personally don't recommend data2sd. Might the reason you're getting errors. Also you shouldn't need to use 'move to sd' anymore that moves to the fat32 partition not the sd-ext. Use a different script to move apps and dalvik to sd-ext, keep app data on internal.
So try:
- backup everything if you haven't already (titanium backup for apps etc)
- change hboot to cm7r2 using fastboot, search for guides
- (optional) flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- backup and repartition sd card if necessary using 4EXT as above
- full wipe and reinstall ROM again
- use another app/script such as mount2sd, S2E or darktremor A2SD, move apps and dalvik to sd-ext. They do the same thing. You won't necessarily see you're internal memory increase to 'internal + sd-ext' but it's working. Don't 'move to sd' as before, keep them on internal to trick to sd-ext.
- restore apps. Install something like diskusage to check your partitions are working.
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hi eddie, thanks for your pointers!
i used CWM to partition the card earlier on, only to discover that it was partitioned on ext3 with no choice to . prior to data2sd, i have tried link2sd, with the impression that it is similar to S2E & mount2sd. sad to say that after installing apps as listed earlier, the same low memory warning still popped up, so i assumed these script is not what i wanted.
for my next step, i plan on a full wipe and start afresh, thinking of using minitool to hammer the whole card flat on a single, FAT32 partition, and then using Aparted to create an ext4 partition. (downloadable from market, yeah that would mean putting the phone into stock CM firmware first and re-wipe again after that).
i have zero knowledge on linux nor any of my machines running it and i am so used to windows environment, that is the reason i did not start out on using Gparted in the first place, and used CWM's own partitioning tool.. 4ext recovery could be an alternative from what i read, but can 4ext be installed when CWM is already in place?
just to update, found the download for the data2sdreinstaller files, in some sections of xda i forgot which thread but i have it now. i will try on re-doing data2sd first. if the phone still give me issues then next would be doing as what you have suggested. thanks again!
Don't use clockworkmod. It's not that it's a bad recovery generally, but for desire it's not recommended as it tends to not create properly aligned partitions.
Backup sd, delete all partitions and repartition from scratch, use gparted or 4EXT recovery, don't recommend anything else. Now that you're s-off it's quite easy to change recovery, it will simply replace CWM.
gparted is also not that bad once you get the hang of it, I use bootable live cd and personally prefer it as I can see everything. I never used linux either... Use this guide
I've never had any luck with link2sd, never liked it. Yes it's supposed to do the same thing, but the idea of linking seemed a bit odd, maybe just not for me, and you may not have had any luck due to a bad partition. Try the others suggested, move apps and dalvik to sd-ext.
Remember to also change hboot to optimise space further.
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Don't use clockworkmod. It's not that it's a bad recovery generally, but for desire it's not recommended as it tends to not create properly aligned partitions.
Backup sd, delete all partitions and repartition from scratch, use gparted or 4EXT recovery, don't recommend anything else. Now that you're s-off it's quite easy to change recovery, it will simply replace CWM.
gparted is also not that bad once you get the hang of it, I use bootable live cd and personally prefer it as I can see everything. I never used linux either... Use this guide
I've never had any luck with link2sd, never liked it. Yes it's supposed to do the same thing, but the idea of linking seemed a bit odd, maybe just not for me, and you may not have had any luck due to a bad partition. Try the others suggested, move apps and dalvik to sd-ext.
Remember to also change hboot to optimise space further.
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noted with many a thanks. hopefully learning this on Desire would allow me to do the same on some other Android devices in future. Funny to think i am doing this as all these while i am just a plain nokia user with all stock firmware.
the jargons for androids are abit overwhelming for me.
Don't worry, it's all a learning process. For most in the desire forums it was their first android device, like me too.
All of the stuff I've written above, I knew none of that at the start either.
Like anything, the more you read the more you learn. It'll start to make sense sooner or later
HI
Im new to this forum so please forgice me if my post is in the wrong place.
I have the 2010 htc desire and have it rooted and am running MILDWILD 8.0 which is great on this phone. my question is how do i add extra internal memory using partion ext on sd card. I can partion the sd card with clockword recovery but when i reboot it always hangs on the htc logo. can any one help with this?
Thanks
CWM-made partitions dont cope well with this phone. Reformat the partition using this guide.
I followed the guide but mildwild 8.0 still shows 148 on htc desire internal memory.
That's because you're still on stock hboot, no better than before it was rooted.
- Install DiskUsage, enable root and browse to your /system partition.
- You will see a lot of free space on /system. This is wasted space.
- You can convert this wasted space to extra /data (internal memory) by flashing a different hboot with a smaller /system partition.
(You need to be s-off for the following, if you're not, use 'revolutionary')
- Nandroid backup
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot
- Full wipe and nandroid restore
- Go again to DiskUsage, your free space on system is greatly reduced :good:, and your /data will go up to 287MB
- This 287MB will be used for app data (e.g. saved game data), and will allow for more apps to be installed.
- You won't see your sd-ext reported in your total internal memory (i.e. it won't read 'internal + sd-ext')
- Keep your apps on 'internal' (don't 'move to sd'), this will trick them automatically to sd-ext.
- If you use DiskUsage to browse to /sd-ext, you'll see apps and dalvik cache there, which means it's working as it should.
do i need to do this? if so can you show me a guide.
also does mild wild 8.0 have built in apps2sd scripts and if so how do i use them.
i have saw videos on youtube with the htc desire internal memory going from 148mb to 1.5gb how can i do this?
thanks
You don't technically need to do to it, but in order to gain more app space you should understand exactly how your memory is being used in the first place.
Apps2sd is already enabled in the ROM by default as stated in the ROM OP. You do not need to do anything extra. Like I said, keep apps on internal and your apps and dalvik cache will be moved to /sd-ext, you should be able to check this now with DiskUsage.
I recommend starting here for fastboot guide, that's the only thing you're missing. Flashing things through fastboot isn't that hard once you get used to it, and can be crucial in certain situations. Once you flash the ROM on cm7r2 hboot, you'll be using your space more efficiently and have a lot more space for apps.
I know 287MB doesn't seem like much more. But this is /data partition is only used for app data. This will still get filled up as you install apps, but much more slowly :good: The apps and dalvik cache which take up much more space go to sd-ext, which is what you want.
You can refer to the same videos if you really want to see 1.5GB internal memory, they likely use a 'data2sd' or equivalent script but in my experience it's not worth it. You would have to remove the current working script, and replace it with something else, which is risky if it's incompatible and untested. Even if you do this, you're not actually gaining anything extra. You have already created the sd-ext partition; it's size is whatever size you set it when you partitioned. It does not change depending on the A2SD script.
I understand that having a 'visible' 1.5GB memory looks better...but once you realise your partition is already there and being used correctly, you don't need to see it.
thanks
i now have 288mb of internal storage with an ext partion sd of 1.4gb,
is that all i need to do now?
so when i install apps the mildwild 8.0 rom will move all to ext4 partion automatically?
also some apps i use to use now say "compatible with your device" is there a way around this so i can install them on my desire?
Thanks
Pretty much yes. Keep them on internal as instructed (don't 'move to SD') to trick them to sd-ext.
All you really need is reassurance that your ext partition is actually being used, which is why I always recommend DiskUsage. Have you actually tried it as first recommended?
Browse to your /sd-ext (or similar name) folder, the one which is ~1.4GB in total size. What can you see?
As for incompatible apps. Don't know. Which ones, are they for higher versions of Android? Have you tried sideloading the apks?
eddiehk6 said:
Pretty much yes. Keep them on internal as instructed (don't 'move to SD') to trick them to sd-ext.
All you really need is reassurance that your ext partition is actually being used, which is why I always recommend DiskUsage. Have you actually tried it as first recommended?
Browse to your /sd-ext (or similar name) folder, the one which is ~1.4GB in total size. What can you see?
As for incompatible apps. Don't know. Which ones, are they for higher versions of Android? Have you tried sideloading the apks?
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yes i have tried it as recommended.
when i browse /sd-ext i see 1423mib then the following dalvik-cache 76.7mib, app 66.4mib, system data 104.3 mib and freespace 1175mib
I also liked the guide on fast boot you sent me, as from using tips from it i was able to flash a new splash screen and boot animation. so thank you.
by side loading do you mean installing the apps with the apk file and not through the play store?
if so this works for some apps but now others. the app Im looking to use is the Argos app. before the recent update it worked fine but now when i went to update i get the device is incompatible message in play store. I have read some stuff on the build.prop method but am unsure if this would work.
tronic44522 said:
yes i have tried it as recommended.
when i browse /sd-ext i see 1423mib then the following dalvik-cache 76.7mib, app 66.4mib, system data 104.3 mib and freespace 1175mib
I also liked the guide on fast boot you sent me, as from using tips from it i was able to flash a new splash screen and boot animation. so thank you.
by side loading do you mean installing the apps with the apk file and not through the play store?
if so this works for some apps but now others. the app Im looking to use is the Argos app. before the recent update it worked fine but now when i went to update i get the device is incompatible message in play store. I have read some stuff on the build.prop method but am unsure if this would work.
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Yep, all good, it's filling up so you have successfully added internal memory :good: plenty more space for apps.
Yeh that guide worked for me which is why I always recommend it. I liked changing the splash screen too (ironically can't be done on Nexus devices as far as I know)
Sideloading is as you described
The Argos app is compatible with Android versions 4.0 and higher as on the play store page, which is why it's incompatible with CM7 which is 2.3.x. The same probably applies to the other apps you're having trouble with. I've never messed with build.prop, probably could work, just make sure you make a nandroid backup before trying any of it.