Sync Button - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

In the Power Saving widget, what does the Sync button do?
The reason I'm asking: I've turned off Sync and rebooted, but my Exchange accounts continue to pull mail.

xpanmanx said:
In the Power Saving widget, what does the Sync button do?
The reason I'm asking: I've turned off Sync and rebooted, but my Exchange accounts continue to pull mail.
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I think that only has to do with syncing with Google servers. Exchange is Microsoft and will need to be disabled via the email apk of you want to turn off auto sync.
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Exchange accounts have the sync set to a timer regardless of sync enabled or not, that's why it continues pushing notifications.

I think that calendar and contacts are not syncing with "sync" turned off, even though email messages are being received.
So I'm gathering this weird picture of Exchange Activesync on the Android platform, in which I can use the Email app to control how often messages are synced, but I have to use "Accounts and Sync" to sync calendar, tasks and contacts....AND...there's no way to schedule those sync operations. I guess they're set to 24/7 pull or something?

xpanmanx said:
I think that calendar and contacts are not syncing with "sync" turned off, even though email messages are being received.
So I'm gathering this weird picture of Exchange Activesync on the Android platform, in which I can use the Email app to control how often messages are synced, but I have to use "Accounts and Sync" to sync calendar, tasks and contacts....AND...there's no way to schedule those sync operations. I guess they're set to 24/7 pull or something?
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In looking at technet, and because Android uses a global setting for push or set notifications (trying to find it in google code), there is an option for the exchange administrator to change your refresh policy..
In the following link, you'll find Exchange Information on 2010 Push. Look at the top left corner of the page, and you'll find more specific information. (I'm assuming that your connecting to 2010)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa997252.aspx
Still looking for the Android side and seeing if there's an easier fix. This will be nice to know since we're going to BYOD at work..
:edit #2: Looking at the Android side; All I'm seeing is a global setting on Email sync schedule. Even going through the fone's calendar sync options, it'll take you right back to the Global setting. :/ Saw some posts talking about Juice Defender being an option for now but it looks like it's really managed by the refresh policy on the Exchange side..
This is what I'm searching for in 'Droid.. "...A short time-out value causes the device to initiate a new HTTPS request more frequently. This can shorten battery life on the device..."
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That's the button you push to go underwater.
Pp.
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MoHoGalore said:
In looking at technet, and because Android uses a global setting for push or set notifications (trying to find it in google code), there is an option for the exchange administrator to change your refresh policy..
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That, sir, was some DAMN useful information. Thank you
As it turns out, I'm the Exchange Admin for both of the Exchange organizations to which I keep my phone connected.
I hopped on the firewall of the less-anal retentive organization, and their HTTP and HTTPS timeout sessions are set correctly (ie, 1800 seconds).
I'll need to have the other organization's firewall admin take a peek at their setup tomorrow.
THANKS AGAIN.

If you don't mind, please let me know what you find out.
I'm going to be writing a policy suggestion to my cio and the more information the better.
Obviously we don't want regular users having to mod their phones with apks that we write. Whole "liability" thing..
Although I highly doubt that most would attribute battery life to getting mail or events..
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How to disable google push mail

Hi Guys
Have some question
In order to use the market i had to define google email account.
I don't want to work in the push mode with the google email, so i disabled the google sync through "Accounts & sync", but i want to receive google emails every 4 hours.
So i defined the google email account under Mail and defined to receive email every 4 hours.
Problem:
The problem is that because the Google sync is disabled i can not get the google emails every 4 hours.
Question:
Is there any solutions to disable the push google mode and work with 4 hours
email check.
Thanks for the assistance.
alegator23 said:
Hi Guys
Have some question
In order to use the market i had to define google email account.
I don't want to work in the push mode with the google email, so i disabled the google sync through "Accounts & sync", but i want to receive google emails every 4 hours.
So i defined the google email account under Mail and defined to receive email every 4 hours.
Problem:
The problem is that because the Google sync is disabled i can not get the google emails every 4 hours.
Question:
Is there any solutions to disable the push google mode and work with 4 hours
email check.
Thanks for the assistance.
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Not too sure, but I would think receiving email every 4 hours would still require it to be running in push mode? Which would explain why you need sync to be turned on.
Not 100% sure, and would be interested to hear other opinions or solutions to your problem.
In addition i put attention on additional issue,
When my Google sync is ON i receiving emails in push mode to the gmail application , and the strange issue that these emails are not updated on the "MAIL" screen (where i configured the gmail account).
Hope the issue is clear ....
have you defined the gmail app in the mail app as POP, IMAP or Exchange?
DOn;t use POP.
But the sync in Gmail and the mail app should not be related to each other whatsoever. Mine works fine when i set it up to IMAP.
of course, make sure you have always on mobile turned on and have the internet enabled, otherwise all should be gravy....
alegator23 said:
In addition i put attention on additional issue,
When my Google sync is ON i receiving emails in push mode to the gmail application , and the strange issue that these emails are not updated on the "MAIL" screen (where i configured the gmail account).
Hope the issue is clear ....
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I actually get notifications of emails much faster in the Gmail app than I do in the default Mail app. Gmail would instantaneously notify me of any new mail as soon as one is sent. For the default Mail app, it takes at least 5-10 mins before it does that.
I'm not sure if it's because for the default Mail app, the shortest interval you can select for receiving data is 5mins, but for the Gmail app, it's either turned on or off, which might make it instantaneous.
rhedgehog said:
have you defined the gmail app in the mail app as POP, IMAP or Exchange?
DOn;t use POP.
But the sync in Gmail and the mail app should not be related to each other whatsoever. Mine works fine when i set it up to IMAP.
of course, make sure you have always on mobile turned on and have the internet enabled, otherwise all should be gravy....
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Of course the mobile connection is turned ON. (common )
The gmail accoun in the mail app is configured as IMAP.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
midamsax said:
I actually get notifications of emails much faster in the Gmail app than I do in the default Mail app. Gmail would instantaneously notify me of any new mail as soon as one is sent. For the default Mail app, it takes at least 5-10 mins before it does that.
I'm not sure if it's because for the default Mail app, the shortest interval you can select for receiving data is 5mins, but for the Gmail app, it's either turned on or off, which might make it instantaneous.
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This is the issue that i don't want to use the push ( which is the fastest way to receive email), i just want simple gmail configuration which will connect to the mail server every 4 hours and download the messages.
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
alegator23 said:
This is the issue that i don't want to use the push ( which is the fastest way to receive email), i just want simple gmail configuration which will connect to the mail server every 4 hours and download the messages.
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
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I think for the Gmail app, it has to be push. Is there any reason you wouldn't want to use the default Mail app, sync to your gmail account, and set the retrieve interval to be 4 hours? That would solve your issue, would it?
Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
Eggcake said:
Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
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Pardon my ignorance, but how do you create an exchange account for google?
Eggcake said:
Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
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Pardon my ignorance, but how do you create an exchange account for google?
*Update*
I found some good instructions here:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138740
It's for the iphone but applies to android as well
alegator23 said:
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
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I dont think this is true, due to push email, makes the server from google to basically push email, if there is no email, it doesnt use internet every 4 hours to connect to google server to look for new mail therefore saves battery, while downloading 1 by 1 when they come is equivalent to getting a lot of email at once, for example 1 email every hour = 4 email at once every 4 hours.
patasenko said:
I dont think this is true, due to push email, makes the server from google to basically push email, if there is no email, it doesnt use internet every 4 hours to connect to google server to look for new mail therefore saves battery, while downloading 1 by 1 when they come is equivalent to getting a lot of email at once, for example 1 email every hour = 4 email at once every 4 hours.
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I am not sure it's correct if you gets everyhour 1 email and you need to download it every hour, then i think it's better to connect once and download all the emails (once in 4 hours). But it's not important, i just want to be able to configure the mobile phone according to mine requirements.
Thanks for the respond.
The main reason to disable the push mail, is to disable the night emails.
Is there any possibility to disable the push during the night.
Thanks

Gmail will not grab all my email

Hey all. I switched over from BB and I love everything about the Incredible except for 1 thing....email. I have my personal email and my work email set up through Gmail (under Accounts & Settings Tab) and I followed the How-To that was put up over at Android Central to use as a push server. Well the problem I have is that when Gmail checks, or fetches whatever it is, it will not grab all the new email that has come in. I travel alot and I rely on my phone to get my messages and unfortunately this one has let me down time after time. I am rooted and I have tried 4 different ROM's, cleared cache in gmail app, along with deleting and readding my accounts. I missed a couple important emails that required a quick reply to get a job but Gmail never got them (online or sent to my phone), it did grab a few messages after that, but missed 5 or 6 again. Any ideas??? If I use the HTC Stock email app I usually set it to check every 15 minutes but that is really hard on my battery. Thanks for any input
Gmail is PUSH there are no options to set check frequency and so forth. Make sure that in Accounts & Sync you have auto-sync and background sync enabled (these are universal features).
SynbiosVyse said:
Gmail is PUSH there are no options to set check frequency and so forth. Make sure that in Accounts & Sync you have auto-sync and background sync enabled (these are universal features).
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Both of those are checked. The frequency check I was talking about is in the stock email app, not the Gmail App. I understand that Gmail is Push, but what I don't understand is why it will get some emails and not others. There is no reasoning behind (same domain, etc.), I did apply a filter so that nothing goes to spam but it hasn't helped at all. Thanks for the reply though, any other ideas?
Do you have multiple e-mail addresses going to the same place?
I would disable POP and IMAP features in gmail options (on your PC). If you do that you won't be able to use Outlook or e-mail clients but you will be able to check your mail in a browser and on your phone with push.
If that still doesn't work then try separating your work e-mail. Have your gmail on your phone be strictly gmail, and then have your work email go to a different folder and have that setup with imap, pop, exchange, or whatever your work email has. This is how I do it.
SynbiosVyse said:
Do you have multiple e-mail addresses going to the same place?
I would disable POP and IMAP features in gmail options (on your PC). If you do that you won't be able to use Outlook or e-mail clients but you will be able to check your mail in a browser and on your phone with push.
If that still doesn't work then try separating your work e-mail. Have your gmail on your phone be strictly gmail, and then have your work email go to a different folder and have that setup with imap, pop, exchange, or whatever your work email has. This is how I do it.
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I'll give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation!

Business people.. Easy question.. Syncing with Outlook

Ok... Its finally time I use this phone to sync with outlook 2007 that I have on my computer..
I don't care much about contacts.. What I need it for is reminders..
Throughout my day I have about 10-20 reminders.. I really want to have this sync with my phone..
I honestly don't even know where to start but assume this should be a VERY simple task?
THANKS
EDIT** If it helps I have "Pure Widget Calender Widget"
I just have it up, but it doesn't do anything besides show me a calendar as of now.. LOL
I have my outlook 2007 calendar synced and it works great. There is a desktop client that you need to install called Google Calendar Sync (google it) and that will keep your outlook calendar synced with your gmail one. Once you get the two synced up, set up your calendar widget to display your gmail calendar and you should be good to go. You can add an event in outlook, gmail, or directly on your phone and it will be populated across all three automatically.
_MetalHead_ said:
I have my outlook 2007 calendar synced and it works great. There is a desktop client that you need to install called Google Calendar Sync (google it) and that will keep your outlook calendar synced with your gmail one. Once you get the two synced up, set up your calendar widget to display your gmail calendar and you should be good to go. You can add an event in outlook, gmail, or directly on your phone and it will be populated across all three automatically.
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Ok my one question is this.. Say I set all my reminders through my computer outlook.. I shut down and leave the office.. Now I'm screwed right?
I should sync before I shut down my computer? I don't want my phone to sync every hour because it would kill battery I assume..
Or how does it work?
I'm not entirely sure what the frequency that the client syncs with outlook is, but you can do it manually. Add your reminders, hit sync, then shut your laptop down. That client only syncs your outlook with your gmail so it's sync frequency will have no effect on your battery life. As long as you have your gmail account sent to sync on your phone, the new reminders should get pushed the same way contacts do. I really don't think that has a significant effect on your battery life either. Of course you can turn off all auto syncing and do it all manually but that would probably get annoying really quick.
Why mess with Google calendar sync at all? Why not just set up ActiveSync? I have mine set up to always sync, with no off peak time. Works fine, computer doesn't need to be on, and doesn't affect the battery at all.
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I've never even messed with active sync at all. I always thought you needed to connect your EVO to your computer to sync with it. How does it get the data from your outlook into your EVO?
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I've never even messed with active sync at all. I always thought you needed to connect your EVO to your computer to sync with it. How does it get the data from your outlook into your EVO?
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I am with you.. I also don't know how it gets the data..
I do like your way though..
I don't mind.. Everyday before I leave I just hit the sync button.. Even if I forget its not that big of a deal as the reminders are usually a few days out..
Still.. If active sync is better some how, I too want to know more about this..
THANKS
_MetalHead_ said:
I've never even messed with active sync at all. I always thought you needed to connect your EVO to your computer to sync with it. How does it get the data from your outlook into your EVO?
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You're looking at it wrong - your not sending data from outlook to your phone. When someone sends you an email or a meetingmaker or something like that, it doesn't go right to "outlook" - it goes to your exchange server which then sends the data elsewhere for you to access (like outlook). I don't know about you, but I can also access all of my corporate email through a web client also, outside of outlook - this works similarly. What activesync does is tells the exchange server to not only send your data to outlook, but also send it to the activesync account on your phone. Again, even though this is all in real time, this uses no battery (because of how it's set up, it's not continuously polling for new data) - and sometimes I even get my email on my phone before it appears in outlook. I have it synced with my exchange calandar and email 24/7, and have never had any battery issues with it - not even negligable battery usage.
fachadick said:
You're looking at it wrong - your not sending data from outlook to your phone. When someone sends you an email or a meetingmaker or something like that, it doesn't go right to "outlook" - it goes to your exchange server which then sends the data elsewhere for you to access (like outlook). I don't know about you, but I can also access all of my corporate email through a web client also, outside of outlook - this works similarly. What activesync does is tells the exchange server to not only send your data to outlook, but also send it to the activesync account on your phone. Again, even though this is all in real time, this uses no battery (because of how it's set up, it's not continuously polling for new data) - and sometimes I even get my email on my phone before it appears in outlook. I have it synced with my exchange calandar and email 24/7, and have never had any battery issues with it - not even negligable battery usage.
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Ok then... 2 things..
I don't really want my email to my phone.. Can I just get my calender reminders only using active sync?
The other thing.. How do I do this? LOL I used to do this with my old Touch, but its been years and totally forgot.. Thanks
fastfed said:
Ok then... 2 things..
I don't really want my email to my phone.. Can I just get my calender reminders only using active sync?
The other thing.. How do I do this? LOL I used to do this with my old Touch, but its been years and totally forgot.. Thanks
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settings -> accounts & sync -> add account -> exchange Activesync
during the setup process (which is painless, but you may need to get some info from your IT group like server info) you'll choose what you want to sync to your phone. The options it gives you are email, contacts, and calandar. If you just want calandar, make sure that box is checked, and the other ones aren't.
actually, you may need to set it up first, then go back into
settings -> accounts & sync -> exchange Activesync to uncheck email and contacts, if you don't want it to sync everything. hope that helps
Im confused on what my domain should be.. and my server address should be the same as my email for outlook right?
It keeps coming back as authentication failed... Please verify username and/or password..
Also I have access to everything I need
fastfed said:
Im confused on what my domain should be.. and my server address should be the same as my email for outlook right?
It keeps coming back as authentication failed... Please verify username and/or password..
Also I have access to everything I need
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That I can't help you with. It's supposed to be the same, but that's not always the case. On my end, I had to get server and domain info that I'd never heard of before. Try to get your hands on some "setting up ActiveSync" documentation from your company, it shouldn't be too hard to find, and will have all the details you need to enter.
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That I can't help you with. It's supposed to be the same, but that's not always the case. On my end, I had to get server and domain info that I'd never heard of before. Try to get your hands on some "setting up ActiveSync" documentation from your company, it shouldn't be too hard to find, and will have all the details you need to enter.
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LOL.. I am the company..
I have a hosting company. Email address, business website..
Just don't know what to input..
fastfed said:
LOL.. I am the company..
I have a hosting company. Email address, business website..
Just don't know what to input..
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check the settings on the hosting end. you may have to give them a call to find out the information you need. i had to use the webmail login information to get it to work.
i use ExchangeActiveSync extensively. i get all my work emails as they arrive on the server and its pretty neat that it syncs my calendar as well. I have the HTC Agenda widget on one of the 7 screens, it pulls in my outlook calendar, google calendar and my facebook events. its pretty awesome!!!
I'm with start logic for my hosting company...i guess I'll give them a call unless someone here knows the information? Thanks
rajas_evo said:
check the settings on the hosting end. you may have to give them a call to find out the information you need. i had to use the webmail login information to get it to work.
i use ExchangeActiveSync extensively. i get all my work emails as they arrive on the server and its pretty neat that it syncs my calendar as well. I have the HTC Agenda widget on one of the 7 screens, it pulls in my outlook calendar, google calendar and my facebook events. its pretty awesome!!!
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How are you guys using ActiveSync with your Evo? Is this Microsoft's ActiveSync or something else? I used it for years with my Windows Mobile phones and would kill for the same functionality with Android.
Fellas, just talk to your IT departments for the following basic info:
Domain name
Server name
You should obviously have your username and password already. ActiveSync is both a desktop application for old WinMo phones and a feature of Exchange. iPhones, Android phones, and a few others can sync with an Exchange mailbox by talking nice to ActiveSync running on your mail server.
HOWEVER, some Exchange admins retain tight control over what types of devices can sync with your mailbox, and some even require you to request sync to begin with. Mobile sync is turned off by default and must be enabled on your mailbox.
Buy your network admin a drink, he'll hook you up. I would ;-)

[Q] Email Does not sync Automatically

hello everyone
I got the ONE X last night, and I am having a problem in automatically receiving my Emails.
I have set An Exchange Email, Gmail, and Yahoo mail using the device's mail app.
the "Auto-Sync" is Deactivated to save battery and avoid syncing other accounts.
in the mail settings of the Exchange Account, I set the "Peak time Sync" to (Push mail) which means (I guess!!) I would get the Email as soon as it reaches the account.
in the Gmail and Ymail, the Least time available on the "Peak time sync" is 5 minutes.
in either case, I am unable to receive the Emails unless I start the app and manually refresh!!!
the Email reaches Ymail or Gmail on the Laptop, I wait for more than 20 minutes with no notification on the device!
I didn't have this problem when I had the Galaxy SII, and sometimes the Exchange Email reached the device before the Laptop!!
this is very annoying and any suggestion is welcome!
I do not wanna go for the Ymail app from the Market or any other Exchange support app!
NOTE: the Gmail application in the Device behaves the same way,, does not sync until I manually refresh from the app itself
If you want to receive pushed data, auto-sync must be on.
pa64 said:
If you want to receive pushed data, auto-sync must be on.
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When I had the SGSII I never turned the Auto-Sync On, and I used to get the Emails all the time very quickly!
Both are Android I do now know what is the problem!
Does any one have an idea about this issue??
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as pa64 said, the emails will not sync with auto-sync disabled
turn it on and turn off auto sync manually for each app you don't want it to sync
phil112345 said:
as pa64 said, the emails will not sync with auto-sync disabled
turn it on and turn off auto sync manually for each app you don't want it to sync
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I will give it a try. But doesn't this affect the battery life? Which is already not good?
3mar84 said:
I will give it a try. But doesn't this affect the battery life? Which is already not good?
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possibly. but you can either turn it on and have push email or leave it off and have to manually check.
afaik auto-sync is a system wide switch for all updating. if you manually turn it off for everything other than mail only mail will be polling for updates. and there was some stuff a couple of years ago (with the iphone) that seemed to conclude that push is actually pretty battery efficient.

[Q] Stock email app push

About a month to a month and a half ago, I developed this problem on my Email(not Gmail) app set up for my Exchange account: mail would occasionally not be pushed automatically and I would have to open the email app to fetch all the emails. There is no pattern that I am able to figure out when this automatic push does not work. Sometimes mail gets pushed and everything works great but at other times i would have gotten 6-7 emails and none would have gotten pushed. Rebooting the phone temporarily fixes this. First I thought this was a server side problem so I downloaded Touchdown(trial version) and had it run on the same account alongside. Touchdown is able to show all emails as they are pushed whereas sometimes the native email app fails to do so. Gmail is also able to push emails to my Gmail app at all times without any problems. Touchdown interface is ok but I actually like the stock email interface a whole lot better. Anything I can do to fix this?
Currently running android 4.2.
luckyplanet said:
Anything I can do to fix this?
Currently running android 4.2.
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This behaviour is new for JB. The stock email app requires sync to be on to actually poll, or even push like it should. Having never been a "syncer", I was fearful of awful battery at first, but this isn't the case. With two email accts on push, and the Gmail app syncing, it doesn't drain battery like you'd think. Just uncheck the elements for each account that you don't want synced.
There are quite a few reports of this on Google Code; the recommendation is to enable sync 9 times out of 10, assuming all the server settings are correct, etc... I turn off sync from 22:00 to 06:00, but other than that, it's on.
CMNein said:
This behaviour is new for JB. The stock email app requires sync to be on to actually poll, or even push like it should. Having never been a "syncer", I was fearful of awful battery at first, but this isn't the case. With two email accts on push, and the Gmail app syncing, it doesn't drain battery like you'd think. Just uncheck the elements for each account that you don't want synced.
There are quite a few reports of this on Google Code; the recommendation is to enable sync 9 times out of 10, assuming all the server settings are correct, etc... I turn off sync from 22:00 to 06:00, but other than that, it's on.
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Thanks but battery life has been surprisingly very good on my GNexus and all accounts are set to push at all times. How do I enable sync just 9 out of 10 times. Can you give me a link to this on Google code? Thanks again!
luckyplanet said:
Thanks but battery life has been surprisingly very good on my GNexus and all accounts are set to push at all times. How do I enable sync just 9 out of 10 times. Can you give me a link to this on Google code? Thanks again!
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I was saying that the answer 9/10 times is enabling sync.
Settings > Data Usage > menu button > Auto-sync data.
Don't have the links handy any longer.
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CMNein said:
I was saying that the answer 9/10 times is enabling sync.
Settings > Data Usage > menu button > Auto-sync data.
Don't have the links handy any longer.
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Thanks. I checked and it looks like autosync has been enabled on my phone. Hoping there is something else I can do to have my exchange emails pushed.... Wonder what they changed in JB that did this. Is there a way to delete the email.apk for JB and install the email.apk from ICS?
anyone else?

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