Dear Engineers,
Kindly, I have one question regarding to install Android 3.0 or 4.0 as an official one in the "Samsung Galaxy W" device without "Flashing" it because as you know that the current Android is 2.3.5.
Hence, Recently I've already upgraded the "Firmware" of the device.
I hope one of you to provide me a good explanation for my issue, and I will be grateful to you.
Thanks.
Regards,
Mulham Darwish
Mulham82 said:
Dear Engineers,
Kindly, I have one question regarding to install Android 3.0 or 4.0 as an official one in the "Samsung Galaxy W" device without "Flashing" it because as you know that the current Android is 2.3.5.
Hence, Recently I've already upgraded the "Firmware" of the device.
I hope one of you to provide me a good explanation for my issue, and I will be grateful to you.
Thanks.
Regards,
Mulham Darwish
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First of all. This question should be in general/ discussion thread.
Second . They aren't engineer. They are developers.
Samsung will never give Android 3.0 or 4.0 officially for galaxy w. So forget it for updating officially.
And seriously... your last paragraph looks like we have done something wrong and we have to apologize or explain to you.
So if you want android 4.0. Use cm9 or other cm9 based rom. But there isnt any Android 3.0 rom for galaxy w.
Your firmware upgrade is. Upgrading from 2.3.5 to 2.3.6. As I said. Samsung is never gonna give us Android 4.0 officially.
Btw. This isn't an issue. You have no big deals with this. So just name it question.
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Mulham82 said:
Dear Engineers,
Kindly, I have one question regarding to install Android 3.0 or 4.0 as an official one in the "Samsung Galaxy W" device without "Flashing" it because as you know that the current Android is 2.3.5.
Hence, Recently I've already upgraded the "Firmware" of the device.
I hope one of you to provide me a good explanation for my issue, and I will be grateful to you.
Thanks.
Regards,
Mulham Darwish
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I just don't get it. Try to post properly. Google translate is your friend.
bbmadzky said:
I just don't get it. Try to post properly. Google translate is your friend.
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i think he / she already using translate...
wrong section dude
Hmmmmm......
seriously folks, I think ppl here should give some/a lot of latitude to posters whose first language is not English.
I think Mulham was trying to be as respectful as he could be, but these translate engines seldom get it fully correct, and perhaps we should bear this in mind when replying.
Just to attempt an answer Mulham, there will never be an "official" upgrade to Android 3.x.......
this was designed by Google as a Tablet operating system, and has been surpassed by both 4.0.x [Ice Cream Sandwich] and more latterly by 4.1.x [Jelly Bean].......
However, because this device is quite capable of running 4.0.x, and probably 4.1.x, there are Custom ICS ROM's in development, notably arco68's CM9, which is actively being developed, and now at Alpha [Build 7]....
there are other CM 9 ROM's, most are based on arco's build, but give a differerent flavoured ICS, use the search or browse in the development section!!!
Of course, CyanogenMod is built from the ground up, from sources, and will have no provider bloat, as you will always see in ROM's from Samsung and their Service Provider partners, so you will have a much better user experience of "pure" Android.......as it was meant to be!!!
There is also just a sniff of CM10......4.1.x [Jelly Bean] here....but far too early to attempt anything yet, let's just wait and see!!!
Unfortunately Mulham, flashing with ClockworkMod Recovery will be the only way to experience these new varieties on our device, as per Samsungs decision to deny ICS for the Galaxy W [GT-i8150].....
a decision which has convinced me personally never to buy Samsung again.....
But, I will enjoy the what our dedicated Dev's produce to show what could have been, if Samsung really cared for it's customers, and not just their Corporate Bottom Line......
Hope you find this answer to be informative!!!
Respect!!
irishpancake said:
Hmmmmm......
seriously folks, I think ppl here should give some/a lot of latitude to posters whose first language is not English.
I think Mulham was trying to be as respectful as he could be, but these translate engines seldom get it fully correct, and perhaps we should bear this in mind when replying.
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My first language is not English but in fairness to the translate engines, they are much useful especially if you know you're own language well. The translate engine will do the rest for you. You just need to compose yours well.
Prior to XDA rules number 3,
Post only using a clear subject and message.
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We cannot help that much if the message or inquiry being asked in somewhat vague to other members.
bbmadzky said:
My first language is not English but in fairness to the translate engines, they are much useful especially if you know you're own language well. The translate engine will do the rest for you. You just need to compose yours well.
Prior to XDA rules number 3,
Post only using a clear subject and message.
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We cannot help that much if the message or inquiry being asked in somewhat vague to other members.
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This of course is true my friend, I was merely asking for a little understanding for those, generally new users, who want help, but are unable to ask in their first language!!
I hope you understand my point.
BTW....I wasn't referring to your post at all, by the way, I would have quoted it if I was.....
We have a saying in my country...I think other countries also!!
Rules were made to be broken.....
I of course am not advocating this at all, but I am making a plea for a little latitude....
A good test of Google Translate is to input something in your first language, have it translated to another language, and then re-translate the output to your first language again, and see just how meanings can change!!
For example, your statement:
My first language is not English but in fairness to the translate engines, they are much useful especially if you know you're own language well. The translate engine will do the rest for you. You just need to compose yours well.
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becomes this:
Language English translation engines are very well first. The rest of the translation engine is done for you. Just need to create.
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When put through translationparty.com
results can be variable, and sometimes funny
Or try this trick:
http://www.webtlk.com/2011/01/28/small-hilarious-list-of-funny-google-translate-tricks/
How does Google know about this?
Open Google Translate.
In the Translate box, type: Will Justin Bieber ever hit puberty
Set translation from English to Vietnamese.
Now, Copy and paste the Vietnamese words and translate them from Vietnamese to English.
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Enjoy
irishpancake said:
Hmmmmm......
seriously folks, I think ppl here should give some/a lot of latitude to posters whose first language is not English.
I think Mulham was trying to be as respectful as he could be, but these translate engines seldom get it fully correct, and perhaps we should bear this in mind when replying.
Just to attempt an answer Mulham, there will never be an "official" upgrade to Android 3.x.......
this was designed by Google as a Tablet operating system, and has been surpassed by both 4.0.x [Ice Cream Sandwich] and more latterly by 4.1.x [Jelly Bean].......
However, because this device is quite capable of running 4.0.x, and probably 4.1.x, there are Custom ICS ROM's in development, notably arco68's CM9, which is actively being developed, and now at Alpha [Build 7]....
there are other CM 9 ROM's, most are based on arco's build, but give a differerent flavoured ICS, use the search or browse in the development section!!!
Of course, CyanogenMod is built from the ground up, from sources, and will have no provider bloat, as you will always see in ROM's from Samsung and their Service Provider partners, so you will have a much better user experience of "pure" Android.......as it was meant to be!!!
There is also just a sniff of CM10......4.1.x [Jelly Bean] here....but far too early to attempt anything yet, let's just wait and see!!!
Unfortunately Mulham, flashing with ClockworkMod Recovery will be the only way to experience these new varieties on our device, as per Samsungs decision to deny ICS for the Galaxy W [GT-i8150].....
a decision which has convinced me personally never to buy Samsung again.....
But, I will enjoy the what our dedicated Dev's produce to show what could have been, if Samsung really cared for it's customers, and not just their Corporate Bottom Line......
Hope you find this answer to be informative!!!
Respect!!
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it's so nice of your long and useful reply, but no offence, part of your reply was exactly the same as mine. wheres the point again? no offence
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and sorry for being mean in my reply. i was reading it really quickly and i didn't really know you are not familiar with english.. sorry if i was really mean.
Brian_SGW_CM9 said:
it's so nice of your long and useful reply, but no offence, part of your reply was exactly the same as mine. wheres the point again? no offence
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I think you're being offensive already man. Why still ask "wheres the point again". And for new users, they'll need all the help they can get, and I think that's exactly what IP is doing. And good job, taking your words back and apologizing the minute you knew you're being mean.
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Brian_SGW_CM9 said:
it's so nice of your long and useful reply, but no offence, part of your reply was exactly the same as mine. wheres the point again? no offence
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and sorry for being mean in my reply. i was reading it really quickly and i didn't really know you are not familiar with english.. sorry if i was really mean.
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Man, I take no offence whatsoever, you can be assured
I acknowledge your input :good:
And, just to be clear, my first language is English!!!!
But I am a proud Irishman, and I am also familiar with the ancient language of my Nation, Gaeilge, [AKA Gaelic]....
we have been speaking and writing in this Celtic language for Centuries, in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, Cornwall, and the Isle of Man.
There is a long history in my Country whereby the ancient language was repressed by the ruling power, which of course is our near and much bigger Country, Great Britain.
This has also been the experience of other cultural minorities where bigger powers ruled, as in USSR, Spain, Latin America, and other countries....which is also why I am sad to see posters being "beaten up" figuratively speaking of course, for not using proper English, when they are expressing themselves as well as they can, respectfully.
We know that the language of the Internet is English, generally speaking, and most fora like this insist on ppl using English, but it should also be acknowledged that there are many languages.
There is, unfortunately, a US/Anglo Cultural Imperialism, which will see the diverse languages of the World eventually go the way of my native tongue, which is now only spoken in remote areas of my country.......
This, in my opinion, is not a good thing......end of lecture!!!
Karmalot said:
I think you're being offensive already man. Why still ask "wheres the point again". And for new users, they'll need all the help they can get, and I think that's exactly what IP is doing. And good job, taking your words back and apologizing the minute you knew you're being mean.
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Thank you very much, but there was nothing offensive said, just simple misunderstandings, and apologies are greatfully received, even if I don't know what they are for :laugh:
irishpancake said:
Man, I take no offence whatsoever, you can be assured
I acknowledge your input :good:
And, just to be clear, my first language is English!!!!
But I am a proud Irishman, and I am also familiar with the ancient language of my Nation, Gaeilge, [AKA Gaelic]....
we have been speaking and writing in this Celtic language for Centuries, in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, Cornwall, and the Isle of Man.
There is a long history in my Country whereby the ancient language was repressed by the ruling power, which of course is our near and much bigger Country, Great Britain.
This has also been the experience of other cultural minorities where bigger powers ruled, as in USSR, Spain, Latin America, and other countries....which is also why I am sad to see posters being "beaten up" figuratively speaking of course, for not using proper English, when they are expressing themselves as well as they can, respectfully.
We know that the language of the Internet is English, generally speaking, and most fora like this insist on ppl using English, but it should also be acknowledged that there are many languages.
There is, unfortunately, a US/Anglo Cultural Imperialism, which will see the diverse languages of the World eventually go the way of my native tongue, which is now only spoken in remote areas of my country.......
This, in my opinion, is not a good thing......end of lecture!!!
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Great read as always Irish! Thanks. Maybe you tell us more in off topic :thumbup:
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irishpancake said:
Man, I take no offence whatsoever, you can be assured
I acknowledge your input :good:
And, just to be clear, my first language is English!!!!
But I am a proud Irishman, and I am also familiar with the ancient language of my Nation, Gaeilge, [AKA Gaelic]....
we have been speaking and writing in this Celtic language for Centuries, in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, Cornwall, and the Isle of Man.
There is a long history in my Country whereby the ancient language was repressed by the ruling power, which of course is our near and much bigger Country, Great Britain.
This has also been the experience of other cultural minorities where bigger powers ruled, as in USSR, Spain, Latin America, and other countries....which is also why I am sad to see posters being "beaten up" figuratively speaking of course, for not using proper English, when they are expressing themselves as well as they can, respectfully.
We know that the language of the Internet is English, generally speaking, and most fora like this insist on ppl using English, but it should also be acknowledged that there are many languages.
There is, unfortunately, a US/Anglo Cultural Imperialism, which will see the diverse languages of the World eventually go the way of my native tongue, which is now only spoken in remote areas of my country.......
This, in my opinion, is not a good thing......end of lecture!!!
Thank you very much, but there was nothing offensive said, just simple misunderstandings, and apologies are greatfully received, even if I don't know what they are for :laugh:
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Actually......that apology was for the OP.....
And if my reply to your post was mean.. sorry about that too.
And tbh. I know your first language is English.....
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Dear all,
Thanks a lot to all of you, and for your replies
One more thing, can someone post how to install the Android 4.0 in "Galaxy w" .. ?!!
By the way, this is my way in writing the messages
Thanks.
Regards,
Mulham Darwish
Mulham82 said:
Dear all,
Thanks a lot to all of you, and for your replies
One more thing, can someone post how to install the Android 4.0 in "Galaxy w" .. ?!!
By the way, this is my way in writing the messages
Thanks.
Regards,
Mulham Darwish
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you can look at the "Galaxy W I8150 Android Development" section, thread titles are descriptive and must look at them first to decide what to try.
First of all, have a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653907
Learn the basics first such as rooting, all the modes, etc
After that learn CWM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846449
Look around for other needed knowledges (depends on individual)
Lastly, choose your desired Android 4.0 ROM, there a a few of them at this moment:
Original CM9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576874
BioHazard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843207
InDroiD REMICS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842544
MIUI http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749067
PARANOIDANDROID Ecstacy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753065
Aokp-Milestone6-iattilagy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844186
Digital.AOKP-Milestone6.I8150.BZS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840869
EHNDROIX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850859
RemICS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753233
Good luck!
Related
We can ask help of a Chinese ROM(恳请大家能帮帮出一个中文的ROM)
在下中国大陆人氏!!入手PPC 已经2年!!大陆的一些网站制作的ROM 根本就是很不好用!!因为本人的英语不是很好!每次路过此网站都只能叹息而走!! 借助翻译软件 终于可以在这里发帖子!!希望有个大侠能帮做个CHT9000 中文的ROM 繁体的也可以!!
在此感谢各位了!!! 下面是翻译软件把我的话翻译过来 呵呵 很差劲的!!
Renshi mainland China in the next! ! PPC has started for 2 years! ! China produced some of the Web site of the ROM is simply not good! ! Because my English is not good! Every time pass by this site can only sigh and go! ! Translation software can help finally posted here! ! There is a hope to be able to errant CHT9000 Traditional Chinese ROM of the can! !
In a thank you! ! ! The following is a translation software to translate my words from a very bad Ha ha! !
fun
i do not know why this guy send this post to here.
i do not want to abuse you, but some words you mentioned i can not agree.
we also have a lot of good webs. it contains too many roms with simple chinese.
bbs.imobile.com.cn
我看不起你,这个白痴,说你叫走狗一点都不过分。
滚回家去,丢人。
去暴风论坛上下yopad做的rom吧。我刷了无数rom这个最好。
满大街好用的rom 随便找就有
国内最普及的机器居然被你说没有rom我实在是受不了你
另外你觉得找老外做中文rom现实吗
我不怀疑你的耐心 但是我怀疑你的智商。。。
The guy is bull****
I dont understand why is so fool.....orz...
yangxiaosan said:
在下中国大陆人氏!!入手PPC 已经2年!!大陆的一些网站制作的ROM 根本就是很不好用!!因为本人的英语不是很好!每次路过此网站都只能叹息而走!! 借助翻译软件 终于可以在这里发帖子!!希望有个大侠能帮做个CHT9000 中文的ROM 繁体的也可以!!
在此感谢各位了!!! 下面是翻译软件把我的话翻译过来 呵呵 很差劲的!!
Renshi mainland China in the next! ! PPC has started for 2 years! ! China produced some of the Web site of the ROM is simply not good! ! Because my English is not good! Every time pass by this site can only sigh and go! ! Translation software can help finally posted here! ! There is a hope to be able to errant CHT9000 Traditional Chinese ROM of the can! !
In a thank you! ! ! The following is a translation software to translate my words from a very bad Ha ha! !
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bbs.xbeta.cn。
here u will find something。。。
在这个论坛你会发现很多。
你没病吧!
老大,叫老外做中文ROM,我看你是神经!
要中文嘀告诉你去用这个吧:http://www.ooppc.com/thread-27810-1-1.html
包证你如你意!
四海之內皆兄弟
繁體中文版請收下 http://forum.imobile.tw/showthread.php?t=1144
“大陆的一些网站制作的ROM 根本就是很不好用”。。。。
您用过吗,不要乱说!
英文不好,还要来这里得瑟。。。。
林子大了什么birds都有呀。。。
sutan said:
“大陆的一些网站制作的ROM 根本就是很不好用”。。。。
您用过吗,不要乱说!
英文不好,还要来这里得瑟。。。。
林子大了什么birds都有呀。。。
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i agree with you
konicamax said:
i do not know why this guy send this post to here.
i do not want to abuse you, but some words you mentioned i can not agree.
we also have a lot of good webs. it contains too many roms with simple chinese.
bbs.imobile.com.cn
我看不起你,这个白痴,说你叫走狗一点都不过分。
滚回家去,丢人。
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wow.. i think that's a bit harsh... did u just call him a retard and tell him to run like a dog? .. to your own fellow countryman.. for making a simple request?.. as u know .. he has the freewill to speak his mind and does not deserve the kind of oppression and abuse that you're putting on him. He is entitled to his view and u should respect that. U said that u don't want to abuse him but you did. You could've simply referred him to other sites for his request but instead u have verbally abused him in chinese but in english you pretended to sound like you didn't agree with him but respected his opinion, which we call democracy in the USA.
sutan said:
“大陆的一些网站制作的ROM 根本就是很不好用”。。。。
您用过吗,不要乱说!
英文不好,还要来这里得瑟。。。。
林子大了什么birds都有呀。。。
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您英文好吗? then why r u 来这里得瑟 ? u're just as guilty
idfour said:
四海之內皆兄弟
繁體中文版請收下 http://forum.imobile.tw/showthread.php?t=1144
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why can't we be all civil like this guy? let's set aside our differences and focus on finding/providing our leads to good ROMs.
SAM66 said:
满大街好用的rom 随便找就有
国内最普及的机器居然被你说没有rom我实在是受不了你
另外你觉得找老外做中文rom现实吗
我不怀疑你的耐心 但是我怀疑你的智商。。。
The guy is bull****
I dont understand why is so fool.....orz...
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我怀疑你的 respect for people's opinion since you stated that you wonder about yangxiaosan's mental ability?
I wonder about your respect for democracy and other's people's opinion.
chwang13 said:
wow.. i think that's a bit harsh... did u just call him a retard and tell him to run like a dog? .. to your own fellow countryman.. for making a simple request?.. as u know .. he has the freewill to speak his mind and does not deserve the kind of oppression and abuse that you're putting on him. He is entitled to his view and u should respect that. U said that u don't want to abuse him but you did. You could've simply referred him to other sites for his request but instead u have verbally abused him in chinese but in english you pretended to sound like you didn't agree with him but respected his opinion, which we call democracy in the USA.
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So, come on, i know if you were Zhong Guo Ren, welcome to back home and make a success to improve our industry,economy and tech same as me.
a descendants of the Yellow Emperor speak to you now.
if not, shut up please !
thank you very much !
chill out dudes!!! can you just be friendly and give him a link and call it a day.. cmon!!
proceed with this bullsh*t fight and you will get banned!!!
Keep it polite!
Thread closed.
I wrote this to explain to the new users why they might get what they consider short or bad answers... when really they aren't!
First off, this is meant to be a basic guide for basic understanding, there may be things that are slightly wrong or not completely accurate (to some experts) but this is for BASIC UNDERSTANDING and not meant to bash or flame any ideas, beliefs or operating systems. If anyone wants any more information they will know how to find it.
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Why you get short/one word answers!
A lot of users here are sometimes confused, disgruntled or scared off by confusing short -sometimes one word- answers.
I thought i would take some time to explain. And it will take time. For the short story go down to the bottom. Sit back and get ready to understand why you feel you aren't understanding something........
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The Long Answer
This is also a common problem with new users in linux forums. This is no co-incidence! It is not that the more knowlegable members are ignorant, short, or rude. They just speak in quick short answers to help you (help yourself).
Why you get short or one word answers!
Let me start on Linux. I personally am not a user, but i have researched it. It is not for me personally, it does not have the features I need or support some of my fancy hardware. Dont get me wrong, Linux is a Great alternative for many users, beginner or advanced. I would consider installing Ubuntu (built on Linux) for my friends parents or grandparents! And anyone else that likes the way iOS is built but doesn't want Apple. But Linux is LOVED by programmers! Why ? Because its Open Source software.
What is Open Source?
Open source software is written "un-compiled" meaning anyone can "open" up the program, read it, learn how it works, or edit it***
How can you legally edit someones program and use it yourself?
GPL General Public License - the linux kernel and many other things are licenced under this.
Basically it is the opposite of copyright, meaning everything under the licence is free, and can and must be able to be read, edit and be re-used to what ever means the other party wants, as long as what they do is under the GPL as well. So any program that works with GPL software, uses code or ideas from GPL software (no matter how small), shares programming libraries with, ect.... MUST BE FREE and OPEN SOURCE. This can be messy for people that want to make money off certain ideas and software.. But,... its all in the name of freedom. Lets just leave it there.
What does any of this have to do with Android?
Android is built on a Linux derived kernel, most of the code for the famous android kernel came for linux! so.... GPL.... so... Open Source!
**This is why android app developers ask you to "donate to" not "buy" their app.** Its a Google Android / GPL thing.
So why do programmers like Linux and or Open Source?
They like it because they are constantly learning and curious! With Linux or any program/software that runs on/with/for Linux they can learn how it works! Better yet, if they want their program to do that, all they have to do is copy and paste it from where they saw it first, then edit it to their own means.
How programmers think:
Im curious about "X"....
Im going to search for "X" where i think im going to find it
I found it! I like it,
Hmm what is this in here? What is "Y"??
Im going to search for "Y"
NO!?! I ll ask a buddy programmer....
He told me "Z" just... "Z"
Im going to search for "Z"
OH!! that makes sense!!!!
Im going to use that!
See a common trend? Search, learn, search, ask, search, learn, search, ask , search.
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In programming this leads to the thinking, "Why type something again if its already been typed? - I can copy and paste!!!"
Similarly:
In forums and helping others it leads to thinking "Why type something that has already been typed? - If you search "X", you find something that has already been typed and i dont have to copy and paste it or find it for you!!!. " Search this word.....
On top of that, programming code uses many "short forms", "broken words" and "gibberish" that makes a lot of sense when you know what it means. This results in thinking in short terms that mean a lot (to them)!
Closing
As said above its not out of being rude or elitist, its a way of thinking.
-That way of thinking is a part of programming, and leaning anything in that world, you have to learn the way of thinking. >
-Part of the learning to think that way is getting fed up and saying "Im just going to find out myself!!" >
-Then, by the time you learn how to find anything you want to know on your own, you have an epiphany and realize they were telling you "exactly what you needed to hear". They were the Oracle and you are Neo. The Matrix has you, and it was all about the journey!
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The short answer as promised!
If they give you one word > search that word. the information is out there already probably many times over!
Why re-write it again for you?
Start with searching the website you are at. (might want to add a second word to help narrow searches EG. for xda would be your device name or OS)
Next search google! - i know its new but it looks promising!
Wikipedia is good too!
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Reason #2 we are replying from the XDA APP! - Get XDA Premium App to support XDA!
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I hope this helps some people understand what is going on and why they feel left out.
see also...
XDA NEW USERS GUIDE
and...
A Plead to the members of XDA..
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What is XDA??
originally posted by kyphur:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself?" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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well said...........
Sorry to be a downer, but you misspelled "First off"
Not anymore its not :
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you sir ... just earned your 200th thanks for writing this, this should help out both newcomers and us vets tyring to help them at the same time. awesome.
HAPPY 200!!
studacris said:
you sir ... just earned your 200th thanks for writing this, this should help out both newcomers and us vets tyring to help them at the same time. awesome.
HAPPY 200!!
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+1
Thanks alot Tru!! That's gonna (hopefully) save us so much time
Well said. I am new to these forums but have come close to jumping threw the monitor at the ones that say "just tell me" in answer to "search is your friend".
The best post I've seen for a while, many thanks.
Now, how to get everyone to read it?
A very good thread =) and hopefully helpful to all
TRusselo said:
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EXACTLY. I cannot tell you how many people have asked me "what is with the typos", or "why so short, u mad bro?", even when at the bottom of the post, it clearly states "Sent from my Cliq2 using XDA Premium App"
Very nicely said. I know I've joined the right forum now!!
This is so true, I'm not a Dev, but I am a technician, and we techies think the same way.
Also, off topic, but ya gotta love that movie reference.
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They were the Oracle and you are Neo. The Matrix has you, and it was all about the journey!
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u r the king
Thanks......why won't it let me use a one word post though. lol
crit71 said:
Thanks......why won't it let me use a one word post though. lol
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To stop n00bs posting useless posts everywhere saying "thanks". There is a thanks button for that.
TheATHEiST said:
To stop n00bs posting useless posts everywhere saying "thanks". There is a thanks button for that.
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That is the second greatest post I've ever read on XDA, the first was the OP, which is getting added to my sig.
newbie says thanks
can't click the thanks botton 7 more posts to go.
Wish I could've hit the thanks button many times!!!
Great post sir!
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !
Great post to help a new user. The info on searching when you get a one word answer is great advice.
Nice write up! Missed this one somehow but your spot on, especially when it comes to the use of the search button.
Added a link to my sig too and spanked your thanks button.
Favourite is spelt wrong on auto correct, it shows favorite. Which is very wrong =]
Sent from my 7 Mozart T8698 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I think i can answer that question
There exists "British English" and the "American English". Microsoft i would think preferred the American version, even when they both mean the same. You may wonder, why not both "Favourite" and "favorite" in the dictionary, due the usage of it depends from where you come from.
"'Favourite' and 'favorite' both mean the same. While the former (favourite) is used in British English, the latter (favorite) is American English."
souce
My myself would see this as a bug, yes.
A "BUG"... Hardly...
My region is set up for Australia and spells words correctly...
I think the "BUG" is in the operator, perhaps?
I think the OP was making the thread in jest.
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I think the OP was making the thread in jest.
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I don't think it was a joke...
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It was a joke about how Brits consider Americans crass and uneducated for having the audacity to spell "favorite" and "color" without a 'u'.
But then, we don't (as a rule) use "spelt", either. Here the more common usage would be "spelled".
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But then, we don't (as a rule) use "spelt", either. Here the more common usage would be "spelled".
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I believe that's to do with regular/irregular past participle In British English, either regular or irregular is perfectly acceptable; whilst in American English regular (spelled) is normally the accepted.
Anyhow, I do believe this topic is in jest (at least I hope so!).
Casey
Dare I make a post in improper English (British or American)?
Me thinks I'd get flammed!
You might get flamed, too.
But in this thread, no one is flaming others for their improper grammar or spelling. We're just having a bit of fun with the differences in spelling between common British and American words.
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Dare I make a post in improper English (British or American)?
Me thinks I'd get flammed!
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Dare => Daire
improper => improuper
RoboDad said:
You might get flamed, too.
But in this thread, no one is flaming others for their improper grammar or spelling. We're just having a bit of fun with the differences in spelling between common British and American words.
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improper => improuper (again)
grammar => grammaur
common => commoun
Your both forgot the "u", improuper spelled, jk.
Well, i think we all have the answer now. And don't forget, the "u".
Haha, I can write whichever way I want. I'm just a bloody Kraut.
Its all fun and games when discussing the various British/ American spelling. But for someone who was born and breed in Queensland Australia, I was horified when my son came home from school and the spelling lis , supplied by the teacher had a "z" in organise.
Is this a big joke !!!
Joeliooo said:
Favourite is spelt wrong on auto correct, it shows favorite. Which is very wrong =]
Sent from my 7 Mozart T8698 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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This is a joke right???
Even if this was an error in spelling ...its a big bug ????
Go play with something else m8...and stop make threads with this kind of titles !!!
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This is a joke right???
Even if this was an error in spelling ...its a big bug ????
Go play with something else m8...and stop make threads with this kind of titles !!!
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I request a motion to remove this thread from the forum, due to unrelated title and body of first post and since the user's comment about imaginary bug is retarded.
First if you don't like the word suggestions then add your own. Or you could use the UK keyboard. Or you can stop being stupid and get over it, this isn't ye olde england.
Funny (is that spelled right?)...
But seriously how can you "add" words??? My last name and street always show up as missed spelled...
BikerCVG
BikerCVG said:
Funny (is that spelled right?)...
But seriously how can you "add" words??? My last name and street always show up as missed spelled...
BikerCVG
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Highlight the word by tapping it. Then in it will appear in the suggestions bar with a + in front of it. Just tap that and the word will be added to the dictionary.
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Highlight the word by tapping it. Then in it will appear in the suggestions bar with a + in front of it. Just tap that and the word will be added to the dictionary.
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Hello old friend...The same old story again and again ...
Its funny to try to teach ppl how to use their phones ??? Nobody this days RTFM !!!!!!
I think OP think that it is too quiet in wp7 forum,then he try to make some jest.......
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Hello old friend...The same old story again and again ...
Its funny to try to teach ppl how to use their phones ??? Nobody this days RTFM !!!!!!
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Hey mate. Well, at least it isn't a question that has been answered a million times before like "will mango be available on all current WP7 devices?". And it's a feature that may be overlooked easily. So I thought I'd pop in quickly and help out.
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Hey mate. Well, at least it isn't a question that has been answered a million times before like "will mango be available on all current WP7 devices?". And it's a feature that may be overlooked easily. So I thought I'd pop in quickly and help out.
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I had done it before and forgot with the new phone (old one did not like being in the river).... I also thought it would help out proper spelling...
Agreed that there is so much of the same thing to read though to find a nugget of helpful/useful info…
Thanks
BikerCVG
I dont know what is new.
..in Macedonia, Europe.
acolazarov said:
I dont know what is new.
..in Macedonia, Europe.
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i think its a performance update ..
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i think its a performance update ..
Sent from my One V using xda premium
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795800&page=2
See it there. New mail.apk, new kernel, new hboot, and counting .
It's possible to find a stock rom (2.22.401.1) rooted?
Hiigh Battery Consumption after update
Hi All,
My phone is consuming its battery like never before after 2.22.401.1 update applied. Especially when wifi is active and it is active during daytime.
I did not change my usage pattern since update.
Any ideas appreciated.
Thanks,
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It's possible to find a stock rom (2.22.401.1) rooted?
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you have to root yourself (same as in earlier versions, or if you had OTA rootkeeper, then just restore the su.
AtillaBilgic: Don't really know. I can sense only, that the phone is snappier, than before, but consumes at par with the 2.08.
acolazarov said:
I dont know what is new.
..in Macedonia, Europe.
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The same applied for the rest of Greece, because Macedonia is part of Greece...
...or are you talking about FYROM?
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The same applied for the rest of Greece, because Macedonia is part of Greece...
...or are you talking about FYROM?
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How cheap is selling nationalism on technical forum.
U are from exRoman Empire Province dude?
Rhetorical question. /ignore
btw "Macedonia is part of Greece" latest 20 years only, but u are probably to young to know that
The trace keyboard function is gone back
sent from my htc one v via xda developers app, a true lfc supporter
acolazarov said:
How cheap is selling nationalism on technical forum.
U are from exRoman Empire Province dude?
Rhetorical question. /ignore
btw "Macedonia is part of Greece" latest 20 years only, but u are probably to young to know that
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It is real pathetic what you and some other try to do "..in Macedonia, Europe"
There are plenty of historical sources, you can learn from them, dude...
Just read and learn or better you're invited to visit the monuments from the macedonian kingdom in Greece.
This is something that may light up your life...
After, you can spare the real knowledge to the others, too...
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It is real pathetic what you and some other try to do "..in Macedonia, Europe"
There are plenty of historical sources, you can learn from them, dude...
Just read and learn or better you're invited to visit the monuments from the macedonian kingdom in Greece.
This is something that may light up your life...
After, you can spare the real knowledge to the others, too...
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Your name (personal) is received on the basis of historical sources?
..and like i know hellas guys and macedonians are different nations who most of time have war between, how u can tell Macedonia is Greece?
..at end, i don't like to talk about my name can, u respect that my normal human desire? Go talk about your economic problems, political elite sell u this spoof problem, because they don't know how to resolve your serious problems.
I will ignore future discussion because i don't have more time and i have bad English. Just stop upset random macedonian people, have i little human respect.
Have i nice day.
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Your name (personal) is received on the basis of historical sources?
..and like i know hellas guys and macedonians are different nations who most of time have war between, how u can tell Macedonia is Greece?
..at end, i don't like to talk about my name can, u respect that my normal human desire? Go talk about your economic problems, political elite sell u this spoof problem, because they don't know how to resolve your serious problems.
I will ignore future discussion because i don't have more time and i have bad English. Just stop upset random macedonian people, have i little human respect.
Have i nice day.
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Since you have nothing to say about true history, you just talk about Greece's present financial problems.
Ending that, I just remind you something that you like to ignore, that Macedonian people are Greek (Hellenic) genres, in contrary to FYROM people that are slavic genres...
Here ends our "conversation".
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Since you have nothing to say about true history, you just talk about Greece's present financial problems.
Ending that, I just remind you something that you like to ignore, that Macedonian people are Greek (Hellenic) genres, in contrary to FYROM people that are slavic genres...
Here ends our "conversation".
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You guys better "end your conversation" before a mod reads this stuff.
Politics are strictly NOT allowed on XDA. Insults, less so but still against forum rules. If you guys continue you will both be reported by me or someone else.
Now, we all have HTC One V's so let's talk about this cool phone instead!
On topic, this update has not hit Telus or Koodo in Canada yet.
Edit: after finishing this post, got an OTA notification.....maybe it has hit Canada!
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Are you loving Android?
Are you into technical stuff?
Do you like to learn more and more about your operating system?
Do you love to write, get feedback, interact with the world?
Are your english skills (write) strong?
As a blog writer with a long activity (starting from early 2007) I never had the will to start an Android blog, thought I think it would be a great way to have visitors, especially if you write in a language that everyone nowadays knows - english.
Maintaining a blog alone is hard, but working together with other peoples it is a joy.
So I am looking for some dudes with strong english skills, strong skills of search and research, dudes with at least one android phone and with some experience in Android world to join me (and others) in the quest of making a great Android blog (and not only). This is mainly a project going, the blog is not created yet (I'll be the one who makes it), it will be on .wordpress.com domain for now (if everything goes well, we might aquire a domain).
The selection of admins will be harsh and I will keep in mind some facts when I will gonna read your application (I will keep in mind your behavior in this forum - if you are helpful, etc).
Here is a small questionaire that you will need to answer when you will apply for this:
Are you confident on writing long texts in english?
Do you own an android phone?
Did you did technical stuff regarding Android (rom building, themes, debugging, etc)?
Do you own a personal blog OR write in a friend's blog?
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Are you loving Android?
Are you into technical stuff?
Do you like to learn more and more about your operating system?
Do you love to write, get feedback, interact with the world?
Are your english skills (write) strong?
Are you confident on writing long texts in english?
Do you own an android phone?
Did you did technical stuff regarding Android (rom building, themes, debugging, etc)?
Do you own a personal blog OR write in a friend's blog?
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I would like to offer to be in your consideration to be allowed to help with your blogging forum, unfortunately I am not a member to any blogging sites I do have a Facebook(not very active) and I am a active member here on xda and love every minute spent browsing and reading post. I know basic android development, adb,themeing , scripting and am currently studying an java,c,and c++. I am also looking at source building and source porting. I am working on a port debugging and will move on to theming and more source mods. Thank u for this great idea and your consideration in my application, also my English writing, and knowledge is well developed (spoke it almost my whole life since I was around 2
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This sounds cool. I'm not a coder of any sort but love Android and only speak English so....:thumbup:
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You both have been PM'ed.
Also, guys, I am looking into other members that love to mod and show their home screens. This blog will be strongly active in that area!
Did you receive my response? I think my popup blocker on my PC is blocking my PMs....
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received and answered!
Me ...
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You'll regret starring WordPress.com....Create a blog with WordPress.org as it is open source and has plugins for ad sense , analytics and will have an ftp server.....
well, i didn't started it yet. so far I am gathering and forming a team.
also, hosting with .org needs a ftp server and I ain't got one.
and i see no point of starting with .org since I need to see if the blog will have attendance/audience.
I own an Android Device (HOV - 1st ever phone) and I can speak English, so....?
1ceb0x said:
well, i didn't started it yet. so far I am gathering and forming a team.
also, hosting with .org needs a ftp server and I ain't got one.
and i see no point of starting with .org since I need to see if the blog will have attendance/audience.
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Nope....its easy ....try
000webhost.com
in...
i fulfill all the requirements
1-yes
2-yes
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but as you said i need to be active.. daily writing wouldn't be possible for me though..
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It's not about daily writing . It's about being active.. one post in 2-3 days means active
M in
man u know I love this stuff
I would love know more and research about this...
I always topped in English
And www.webs.com
Sexy hosting site
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Yay more bloggers
sentfromybrain
I've never developed a blog but I do enjoy installing OS's. I have been blogging in my mother tongue for many years. Oh, and I teach English.. Can I join? I own two smartphones and a cheap tablet..
I am an IT consultant working for an engineering firm. Ive got more than a dozen andeoid phones and tablets.
You could pm me if you want i am interested doing that to help you out
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Meehow81 and jsmasterx, both have been pm'ed. don't expect this blog to rise in a few days. it will be a hard work and I will make sure to review every single post that its being added to the blog. in time, everyone can be promoted (i'm having in mind a pyramid kind of thing)
what do you mean with "into techical stuff"? :cyclops:
to know things about android inside
y u ignore my post