A few basic questions - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

I don't own this phone yet, so I am asking the owners directly (instead of search which gave some contradictory result)
1. Is it laggy for normal use that is while not too many apps in background?
2. Can it be rooted (I guess yes, from Dev section). If yes, can I run ICS?
3. Any hack or ROM or something for 1080p video?
4. Will you suggest getting this phone now?
5. Most important, is it really both GSM and CDMA?
Thanks

lamborg said:
I don't own this phone yet, so I am asking the owners directly (instead of search which gave some contradictory result)
1. Is it laggy for normal use that is while not too many apps in background?
2. Can it be rooted (I guess yes, from Dev section). If yes, can I run ICS?
3. Any hack or ROM or something for 1080p video?
4. Will you suggest getting this phone now?
5. Most important, is it really both GSM and CDMA?
Thanks
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1. I have never experienced lag that was not due to a misbehaving app while running either stock or rooted/custom ROM. This processor is plenty powerful enough for the vast majority of people's uses and this phone has more ram than many phones with the same processor.
2. Yes read the instructions in the stickies in the dev section thoroughly before attempting. Tacoroot is required for the newest firmware. Both ICS and JB ROMs are available and run quite well (well enough for dd for most people anyways). I currently run AOKP but CM9 and sense 3.6/4.0 ROMs are available and are nice too.
3. Not sure. I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
4. If you are buying used for a reasonable price then definitely. If you are upgrading there are better phones available depending on your price range and features that you desire. I would buy it again if that means anything to you.
5. Yes. GSM is meant for global roaming only but if you are sim unlocked (either by calling VZW for an unlock code or by purchasing one elsewhere) it can be used on domestic GSM carriers if you have a sim card for that carrier. Data speeds are edge only on domestic GSM carriers from what I hear. PLEASE DO NOT ASK IF A ROM HAS GSM SUPPORT WITHOUT READING THE ENTIRE OP AS WELL AS SARCHING WITHIN THE THREAD! IT HAS BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES IN EVERY ROM THREAD THAT I HAVE SEEN AND BOTH DEVS AND USERS WILL FLAME IF THE ANSWER IS EASY TO FIND.
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cstone1991 said:
1. I have never experienced lag that was not due to a misbehaving app while running either stock or rooted/custom ROM. This processor is plenty powerful enough for the vast majority of people's uses and this phone has more ram than many phones with the same processor.
2. Yes read the instructions in the stickies in the dev section thoroughly before attempting. Tacoroot is required for the newest firmware. Both ICS and JB ROMs are available and run quite well (well enough for dd for most people anyways). I currently run AOKP but CM9 and sense 3.6/4.0 ROMs are available and are nice too.
3. Not sure. I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
4. If you are buying used for a reasonable price then definitely. If you are upgrading there are better phones available depending on your price range and features that you desire. I would buy it again if that means anything to you.
5. Yes. GSM is meant for global roaming only but if you are sim unlocked (either by calling VZW for an unlock code or by purchasing one elsewhere) it can be used on domestic GSM carriers if you have a sim card for that carrier. Data speeds are edge only on domestic GSM carriers from what I hear. PLEASE DO NOT ASK IF A ROM HAS GSM SUPPORT WITHOUT READING THE ENTIRE OP AS WELL AS SARCHING WITHIN THE THREAD! IT HAS BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES IN EVERY ROM THREAD THAT I HAVE SEEN AND BOTH DEVS AND USERS WILL FLAME IF THE ANSWER IS EASY TO FIND.
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Thanks for your reply.
What would you prefer between this and Inspire 4G? Seeing I won't be using 4G for years to come, I don't see any considerable difference between the 2.
About the 5th question, I am not very sure about what "global roaming" means here. Suppose I buy this phone on ebay, then will I be able to use it as a GSM device (i.e with SIM card) in another country without any unlock or anything?

lamborg said:
Thanks for your reply.
What would you prefer between this and Inspire 4G? Seeing I won't be using 4G for years to come, I don't see any considerable difference between the 2.
About the 5th question, I am not very sure about what "global roaming" means here. Suppose I buy this phone on ebay, then will I be able to use it as a GSM device (i.e with SIM card) in another country without any unlock or anything?
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Personally, I would prefer this phone just because its confirmed to get the ICS update (Inspire 4G isn't getting official ICS). As a note, the Inspire doesn't use true 4G, but rather HSPA+. Just to let you know.
The phone can be used globally, but it will be hampered with GSM because it would only support Edge or 2G. You would also have to get it unlocked and insert the SIM card as well in order for it to work (don't know how the global unlock work since I'm using Verizon)
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david_hume said:
Personally, I would prefer this phone just because its confirmed to get the ICS update (Inspire 4G isn't getting official ICS). As a note, the Inspire doesn't use true 4G, but rather HSPA+. Just to let you know.
The phone can be used globally, but it will be hampered with GSM because it would only support Edge or 2G. You would also have to get it unlocked and insert the SIM card as well in order for it to work (don't know how the global unlock work since I'm using Verizon)
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To shed a little light on the global unlock for you both, once the unlock code is received from VZW (or eBay, whatever) you install a non-VZW SIM and it will prompt you for the code. Once entered the phone will restart and connect to GSM networks. Once the correct APNs are set, data and MMS work across all.global GSM (2G) networks, and 900/2100MHz HSPA networks, which you'll find in Europe and Australasia.
I have a GSM unlocked unit and use it no worries in Australia. As mentioned before, performance is fine for day-to-day use, and the Incredible S (true GSM variant of Incredible 2) is one of my favourite handsets of all time.

@david_hume
Are you saying that I won't be able to use 3G while on GSM network? Is it true, coz that might be a deal breaker.
Somewhere I read, you can "switch to WCDMA mode which is HSPA/3G". I don't know if this is true or if WCDMA mode will even work with a GSM SIM card.

lamborg said:
@david_hume
Are you saying that I won't be able to use 3G while on GSM network? Is it true, coz that might be a deal breaker.
Somewhere I read, you can "switch to WCDMA mode which is HSPA/3G". I don't know if this is true or if WCDMA mode will even work with a GSM SIM card.
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You will only be able to use 3g if the network uses the 900/2100mhz bands for their 3g. Even the vast majority of Tmo and ATT phones do not receive 3g on the other network currently.
Which carrier do you plan on using?
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cstone1991 said:
You will only be able to use 3g if the network uses the 900/2100mhz bands for their 3g. Even the vast majority of Tmo and ATT phones do not receive 3g on the other network currently.
Which carrier do you plan on using?
Sent from my ICS Dinc2
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I'll be using it in another country. It uses 2100 frequency band for 3G.
I have another question.
If the phone is not unlocked yet, will a normal flash of a ROM is all that is required to unlock the phone to use it on abroad GSM networks or do I have to get the unlock code? My guess is flashing will not work, but I am confirming this.
Also, if I get a phone with a Bad ESN, will I be able to SIM unlock it and use the phone in other countries on GSM mode, or the phone need to have a Clean ESN in order to SIM unlock it? I am thinking of getting the unlock code from one of the websites that gives the code for some $.

lamborg said:
I don't own this phone yet, so I am asking the owners directly (instead of search which gave some contradictory result)
1. Is it laggy for normal use that is while not too many apps in background?
2. Can it be rooted (I guess yes, from Dev section). If yes, can I run ICS?
3. Any hack or ROM or something for 1080p video?
4. Will you suggest getting this phone now?
5. Most important, is it really both GSM and CDMA?
Thanks
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1. It si not Laggy, GB is running very smooth and stable.
2. yes, and you can flawlessly run ICS.
3. try UKB.. its nice
4. you can visit Mobile shops or search in craigslist or in google, you will get many..
5. yes, Incredible2 supports both CDMa and GSM but one at a time...

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Does Incredible work in the UK?

I have heard somewhere someone said this phone doesn't work in the UK, is this true?
Would root and custom ROM fix this?
Many thanks,
K
Kruzkal said:
I have heard somewhere someone said this phone doesn't work in the UK, is this true?
Would root and custom ROM fix this?
Many thanks,
K
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I could be wrong, but I don't know of a CDMA carrier in the UK. Without a CDMA carrier, you wouldn't be able to use the Incredible as a phone (WiFi would still work, as well as running other apps in Airplane mode). Whether you're rooted or not would be irrelevant, as the radio in the phone is what would be limiting you.
No sorry the incredible is only supported in the U.S. right now. Their is no Rom or hack that can fix this. This is a Verizon exclusive that only works in the U.S. it has to do with the network types. I would consider getting the HTC desire. If you were to buy the incredible their would be no way for you to get a wireless signal because Europe doesent support cdma technology. So the only way for you to use it would be if you were in the U.S.
Their is also no way you can hack the phone to run on a gsm network they use in Europe. Sorry. U should consider the HTC desire HD that should be out on European networks before the end of this year!!!!!
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Does this also mean that an US user with Incredible will not be able to use the phone whilst roaming in UK or any other countries without CDMA?
If this is true... LOL...
The phone is CDMA only. Doesn't support GSM which is almost exclusive in Europe.
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So you could use the Incredible in the UK(less phone) and GPS, wi-fi, etc will work? Seeing how I'm going on vacation it will be a PLUS that the phone does not work.... Has anybody used the phones other features..say in London?
Kruzkal said:
Does this also mean that an US user with Incredible will not be able to use the phone whilst roaming in UK or any other countries without CDMA?
If this is true... LOL...
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Don't LOL us! There aren't many countries outside of Western Europe that support only GSM technologies! Still, it would be nice if there were more phones from Verizon that supported CDMA and GSM, phones that weren't Blackberry Storms and other non-android doorstops
wpmle said:
So you could use the Incredible in the UK(less phone) and GPS, wi-fi, etc will work? Seeing how I'm going on vacation it will be a PLUS that the phone does not work.... Has anybody used the phones other features..say in London?
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GPS (non-tower based at least) SHOULD work worldwide. Wi-fi is a toss up since UK uses different frequencies than the US. This is really why I'm hoping LTE will be adopted worldwide. The only thing that stands in it's way is WiMAX, but my hopes are LTE will become incredibly popular, and it's apparently easy enough to change WiMAX towers into LTE, so maybe Sprint/Clearwater could be forced into dumping WiMAX.
It's just time for a global standard (which for most of the world GSM is, but GSM has enough problems of it's own that we need new tech, and hopefully LTE will be it).

Unlocking T-Mobile for AT&T service

hi everyone:
I have been looking via numerous thread online on many Android forums especially here and have been unsuccessful for the past 2 days now. So I figured I would need to create a thread and finally give in and ask for some help. I have a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy 3 phone and I need to unlock it so that it will work on my AT&T service. Now i understand about rooting the phone and being able to play with themes etc, but its not that great if I can't use the phone itself.
Now without coming up with some kind of answer I must have watched about 40 youtube video's hoping to find out some kind of information. Mostly what I got out of it was numerous website that offer unlocking for phones at a certain price.
unlockcodesource(.)com
unlock2go(.)com
mobileunlockcodes(.)co.uk
Has anyone ever used any of these website or can someone give me some good advise on how I can get this phone unlocked please/
~Aqua
I think the toolkit stickied in the development forum has an option to SIM unlock the GS3. I have not tried this, and do not know if it works, but if the option is there, you might want to give it a shot.
If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
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Crisisx1 said:
If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
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OK thank you. I followed your instructions and they said it would take up to maybe 24 hrs for the phone to be unlocked. If it isn't unlocked than she said to call back with the conformation number she gave me. If that doesn't work than they would have to give Samsung my info and could take up to 14 days. She said when you buy phones almost all stands and corp stores have already unlocked phones.
she also said it would be auto unlocked for good. Can they lock the phone back up once it is be unlocked?
~Aqua
edited: Once I have it unlocked ( if all goes good ) do i use the same APN settings that I needed to put into the phone in order for my phone to work on the AT&T network as I did with my S2 that I got unlocked ?
Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong
speed issue
five40 said:
Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong
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I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua
AquaWater said:
I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua
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The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands so it will work on AT&T's 3G network. It will not get LTE though.
You can unlock either by paying for a code from the various resellers online or requesting an unlock code from T-Mobile if you have an account in good standing with them. If you can't get the code from T-Mobile I suggest searching 'T999 unlock' on eBay and you'll find some good options.
The tmobile galaxy s3 will work on the ATnT HSPA+21 frequency. Same frequency the International version runs on for that network.
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Edge network and 3/4G Question
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,
AquaWater said:
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,
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Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.
Darmokk said:
Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.
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So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now? I'm getting 3G now with my T-Mobile S2 unlocked on AT&T, but now I'm going to have an unlocked S3, why wouldn't it be the same?
Because the radios in the devices are different.
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So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now?
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Because he/she doesn't know what he/she is talking about. You will be fine with a T-Mobile S3 on AT&T.
That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
five40 said:
That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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I unlocked my t999 and am using an att straight talk sim getting HSPA speeds. Going to switch back to tmobile prepay because it is way faster than att HSPA with better latency. Although coverage may be lacking, i may just switch to an att ST sim.
To answer your question, a Tmobile S3 will work on ATT HSPA+ network with the HSPA+ Speeds of up to 6-7mbps in NYC area. The average I've been getting is around 2-3.5 mbps. With the tmobile prepay sim I have, it's usually around 2-18mbps down in NYC area.
The T-mobile S3 will not work on the ATT LTE network because it lacks that radio (or so they say for now); there have been other threads suspecting it's just a matter of flashing the right radio to "turn on" the ATT LTE radio. However, if all you want is HSPA+ speeds, rest assured it will work fine.
The ATT S3 is lacking the AWS bands for TMobile so it will not get the HSPA+ on Tmobile.
Best regards.
radio issue
First off, I would like to thank everyone who has been helping me along with my issues with my phone. I appreciate it a lot and I'm picking up more knowledge more and more everyday from you guys and reading heavily on the forums.
if the hardware in the phone doesn't support HSPA+ 1) will i have to root the phone and 2) change the radio? And 3 ) if I change the radio does that mean I would need to install a custom ROM i order for it to work properly?
Also, from one of the post they said "The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands " - of that is true will than I should be able to have the 3G speeds correct?
I really hope I am not making some people angry, I'm new to this and trying my hardest to understand everything so I don't make mistakes. Please bare with me. Again, thank you so much everyone who has contributed so far. I still have a lot to learn. The reason why is because I just don't want it to work ( I do, want it to work ) but I want to understand why everything is working they way it is and I've over the past almost month have been picking up a lot of knowledge. Can't wait to hear from you guys
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.
Well there it is, I stand corrected!
I had no idea the T-Mobile SIII supports At&t HSPA+ bands.
Is the same true to all T-Mobile HSPA+ phones?
Sorry for any issues, just learning
Hi everyone,
thanks so much for the info. Will the S2 I needed to put in certain APN settings inorder to receive MMS ( picture ) via texts. Do i use the same settings for the Samsung Galaxy 3?
kmdub said:
No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.
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I too have learned from this thread

[Q] Anyone using the Verizon version with GSM or AWS sim cards yet?

Hey guys. I know this phone is new to verizon still but has anyone had any luck trying this out on Tmobile yet? I can't seem to find any information on there being a difference in innards between the Verizon and ATT or Tmobile variant.
I've been using it on metropcs but I can't figure out how to get mms or data faster the edge.
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NSRpxndxhou said:
I've been using it on metropcs but I can't figure out how to get mms or data faster the edge.
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You'll have to find a way to manually enter MetroPCS APN settings. A SIM card by itself usually only provides the most basic connection settings for a phone to use.
Hello, I have a Verizon phone, which I unlocked and I am using with MetroPCS sim card. Everything works except I don't have 4G. I have internet but not 4G. Some ideas how I can fix that and actually use the 4G? Thanks!
dohcvtec said:
Hello, I have a Verizon phone, which I unlocked and I am using with MetroPCS sim card. Everything works except I don't have 4G. I have internet but not 4G. Some ideas how I can fix that and actually use the 4G? Thanks!
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There is no fix. The m7vzw does not get the receive the proper frequency for it. Verizon blocks some radio frequency bands. ****in verizon.
Can't blame Verizon for not allowing other frequencies they don't use on their phones. They have the phones made for their service. So why can't they have it their way?
Actually, I can blame them. It isn't like they give you the phone free. We pay for them. It would be nice if they stopped modifying them to prevent them from using all the functions built into the standard model. Not just radio bands, but the FM radio also. And the fact you can't use htcdev is also BS.
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Actually, I can blame them. It isn't like they give you the phone free. We pay for them. It would be nice if they stopped modifying them to prevent them from using all the functions built into the standard model. Not just radio bands, but the FM radio also. And the fact you can't use htcdev is also BS.
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If you look at the flip side, if you were the carrier wouldn't you have a hard time diagnosing phones...lets say you have 100 different roms. It would be a nightmare to do tech support for a ROM that was not built by them, hence the lock down (look @ Apple). Although you pay for the phone, there should be some type of baseline quality control over the network that Verizon needs to have over their phones. Its like saying you're paying for a Ferrari but you hate the MPG so you want to do an engine swap to a civic engine to achieve 40-50 mpg. Yes, is it possible to do it...maybe...but you wouldn't get the same performance you would expect from a Ferrari.
Yes, I totally hate the fact that you can't use HTCDev, thankfully I was lucky enough to have been one of the few people who was able to use HTC Dev before they blocked the numbers for Verizon. I think they should allow HTC Dev but allow the typical one year warranty on the hardware only...but that's only wishful thinking...=(

T-Mobile to Verizon?

If I unlocked my phone, would I be able to keep my GS3 and switch to Verizon service?
Paulx777 said:
If I unlocked my phone, would I be able to keep my GS3 and switch to Verizon service?
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Nope need a CDMA phone
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Actually yes you should be. Yes this is a surprise. But Given Quad band it seems to work. Unlock the phone, test with a ATT sim to make sure it indeed is. Then try Verizon Sim.
You may have to reboot couple of times. Also may need to go into Settings>Advanced > Networks > Search for a Network Operator.
The wording may be different on your Rom.
Perseus71 said:
Actually yes you should be. Yes this is a surprise. But Given Quad band it seems to work. Unlock the phone, test with a ATT sim to make sure it indeed is. Then try Verizon Sim.
You may have to reboot couple of times. Also may need to go into Settings>Advanced > Networks > Search for a Network Operator.
The wording may be different on your Rom.
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I had heard that this was the case- good to know if I should ever decide to jump ship to Verizon. I think many people (including myself) got used to hearing in the past that this was not possible due to Verizon phone being CDMA & not using SIM cards, but I guess this is changing with newer phones that support more bands...
Perseus71 said:
Actually yes you should be. Yes this is a surprise. But Given Quad band it seems to work. Unlock the phone, test with a ATT sim to make sure it indeed is. Then try Verizon Sim.
You may have to reboot couple of times. Also may need to go into Settings>Advanced > Networks > Search for a Network Operator.
The wording may be different on your Rom.
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rcsrich said:
I had heard that this was the case- good to know if I should ever decide to jump ship to Verizon. I think many people (including myself) got used to hearing in the past that this was not possible due to Verizon phone being CDMA & not using SIM cards, but I guess this is changing with newer phones that support more bands...
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You still need a CDMA capable phone.. There is phones that can do both I understand that, the Verizon s3 has gsm capabilities for example and I have personally seen it working with simple mobile, but I highly doubt the T-Mobile s3 supports CDMA.. I don't think quad band has anything to do with it to be honest, but no problem if I get proven wrong, we can all learn something
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The OP can surely try and post the results.
I do belive T-Mo version of S3 does match VZW Version at least in this aspect.

SM-G960F/DS on Verizon in the US

Hi all,
I have in my hands an unopened G960F/DS. I was considering this phone to replace an old model, it's long due. I thought I did my homework and was able to determine this phone worked on Verizon in the US, but a serious note on the box and further research suggests I may have been wrong. Although it would be nice to have new hardware, I am replacing the old one almost entirely out of a desire to flash a custom ROM on it. I was under the impression the lack of CDMA support wasn't a big issue given that Verizon (and everyone else) is phasing out CDMA and the phone still had LTE. Thus my choice of the F/DS. I am informed that opening the box and returning the phone will incur a charge, while keeping the box sealed and returning it will not. I am trying to decide to continue forward and test on Verizon's network here in the US or just return the thing, the choice lies in compatibility with this network. So now I get to play a guessing game.
I find myself in 4G LTE areas most of the time. I want to use data and make voice calls.
This 2-post thread suggests not much can be done:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/sm-g960f-verizon-network-t3856443
This guy demonstrating slower speeds, which I'm not too concerned about, but also HSPA+ in an area he usually gets LTE. In the video description he says after applying a software update it works 'fine':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkNXCK2iVO8
This site lists some band compatibility but doesn't say anything about not being able to use it with Verizon:
https://apn.gishan.net/en/apn/verizon/samsung-galaxy-s9
This site also lists band compatibility but warns about Verizon's strict device policy:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...e-samsung-star/verizon-wireless-united-states
Is there any hope to use an unlocked S9 on Verizon in the US? I see this going one of several ways: 1) Everyone works out and I can make calls and use data and there are no issues and rainbows and unicorns 2) Data in certain places, no voice because something something "VoLTE" 3) Absolutely no data/voice whatsoever 4) I switch carriers I return this piece of junk and buy a phone that works. (might coincide with 2/3)
If I end up with (4), how can I avoid this issue in the future? I spent some considerable time deciding on this model, which has the features I want and an unlockable bootloader. Will the S10 have this issue? What about the Note 9? I apologize for the noobposting, and if I missed a thread that answered this question. Thanks for any help you can provide, I sincerely appreciate it.
Edit: This thread asks a similar question but isn't specific and neither are the answers:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S9/Unlocked-galaxy-S9-on-Verizon/td-p/277493
I have been using a G965f/ds on Verizon Wireless.
VoLTE, vowifi, text, and data work after rooting.
Having done a speed test with a U device and on the g965f/ds, the speed I can receive seems equal.
I haven't had issues with making LTE calls in my area.
CynicalHeight00 said:
I have been using a G965f/ds on Verizon Wireless.
VoLTE, vowifi, text, and data work after rooting.
Having done a speed test with a U device and on the g965f/ds, the speed I can receive seems equal.
I haven't had issues with making LTE calls in my area.
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Thanks for the feedback. Are you based in the US? How did you activate the phone? I found instructions on LTE activation here:
www . verizonwireless . com/businessportals/support/how_to_use/activate_4g_lte.html
And an IMEI checker, which fails when I enter what I find on the box my phone is in:
www . verizonwireless . com/od/prepaid/bring-your-own-device/#/checkDevice
Edit: It also looks like they have a second page that checks IMEI (this also fails for me). Can you tell me what either of these pages say when you enter your IMEI?
www . verizonwireless . com/onedp/byod#/
I reside in the US.
The imei of my g965d/fs failed when inputted in to their system;however, the SIM is all that's needed for Verizon wireless to work on it. Initially, though, you might need to insert the SIM card into another imei Verizon wireless compatible device only to allow the system to have that imei in the system for your number. Since, you already have vzw, I'm assuming you already are activated on it with a device, so moving sims is the next step.
Thanks for your input. Anyone else have experience with this device on Verizon's network?
I could have written this exact post.
jmtroth said:
Thanks for your input. Anyone else have experience with this device on Verizon's network?
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I am trying to do the same thing with the same model Note 9, SM-N960F/DS. I was told by Verizon Level 2 tech rep that simply installing an activated SIM would make the phone work, obviously 4gLTE only since there are no CDMA bands. He checked the 4 bands Verizon uses for their 4gLTE and the F/DS model has all 4 of them.
I am in the same boat as you though. IF I try it and it doesn't work I have to return and lose $125 or switch to GSM network (AT&T or TMO) I am also trying to decide whether to take the gamble. This Level 2 Tech guy didn't mention anything about having to root the phone.
I would also like to know about the advisability of attempting this. I thought I read somewhere that this phone won't have any warranty in US anyway but I am not 100% sure about that. Sellers seem to want to gloss over that issue.
I'm very very interested in this
to put this to bed, you cant use any F galaxy phone on verizon and get full usage. vzw is a CDMA based carrier whereby voice is transmitted primarily via CDMA and data over GSM (which includes voLTE, obviously). The F model do not have CDMA radios in them. You CAN get data to work and therefore voLTE as long as you can flash the vzw CSC to get the phone to install the voLTE app. Long story short, dont try it. Its a fruitless endeavor. I mean, do what you want, i guess, but dont expect for the F to work well, or at all on vzw. There is nothing anybody on xda or anywhere can do to alleviate that.
I had straight talk using Verizon towers on note 8, my note 8 broke, I missed flashing custom ROMs, I bought a note 9 n960f, read online it would work too. I inserted sim. Did not get data or calls. Flashed custom ROMs found a lineage is rom that worked with data for like 2 min then quit. I kept Singapore rom csc stock radios I guess from Singapore, guy on here said he flashed Singapore stock Odin flash and ended up making his work but didn't work with my straight talk Verizon sim. My buddy came over and he uses visible network on Verizon towers we popped in his sim and it worked flawlessly on stock Singapore csc/flashed custom rom from xda. I switched, it's cheaper, it works and first month was 5$ no fee to transfer my number over. Visible is great, join a group and it's 25$ a month.

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