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I need educated on a few things, I'm concerned with the performance of my phone so I have it rooted and I have installed system panel to monitor things, autokill memory optimizer for ram of course as well as watchdog to alert me if any apps are outta control. Am I crazy for having these or is it a good idea? Also is there anything better I should use rather then what I already have? I just want my phone to run smooth and my battery to last bc I use my phone all day long
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trembly01 said:
I need educated on a few things, I'm concerned with the performance of my phone so I have it rooted and I have installed system panel to monitor things, autokill memory optimizer for ram of course as well as watchdog to alert me if any apps are outta control. Am I crazy for having these or is it a good idea? Also is there anything better I should use rather then what I already have? I just want my phone to run smooth and my battery to last bc I use my phone all day long
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A lot of that is unneeded. I have System Panel, but only use it if I'm having problems with an app. Rarely is there a use for watchdog. On stable ROMs, I've never seen an app get out of control, and rarely on betas. So it justs sits in the background eating battery itself. Also try, using a stock speed, undervolted battery with SetCPU. If I'm trying to make mine last, I have a screen off profile of powersave 384/245, and regular of 700-800ish (I forget)/245 conservative.

PonsAsinorem said:
A lot of that is unneeded. I have System Panel, but only use it if I'm having problems with an app. Rarely is there a use for watchdog. On stable ROMs, I've never seen an app get out of control, and rarely on betas. So it justs sits in the background eating battery itself. Also try, using a stock speed, undervolted battery with SetCPU. If I'm trying to make mine last, I have a screen off profile of powersave 384/245, and regular of 700-800ish (I forget)/245 conservative.
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ok thanks, i installed setcpu and have two profiles set, one for when screen is off with settings similar to yours and another set to when my battery is >30%. could you please tell me what the governor options of on demand, userspace, or performance mean ?? also should i set priority's to anything other then the default 50 % ? thanks for the help

[Q] Desire eating battery more than usual

Currently I am using this RomHere
(I was forced to because when I flashed an update to the Superuser app, it worked fine, but when I turned it off for the night, the phone wouldn't get past the 'HTC' startup screen, and trying to factory reset/ flash an RUU didn't work)
When I was using stock Froyo, the battery life was moderate. It *normally* used to go down around 1% every 2 hours or so in idle. Since I've flashed this new rom, it seems to go down 1% every 30 minutes instead, Even with the screen off and the phone fully off, the battery drains horribly quickly.
Any solutions?

That is the rome, dude. Sense2.1+3.0 drains more battery than stock froyo. That's the price. And 2%/h is not bad for sense roms.

MatDrOiD said:
That is the rome, dude. Sense2.1+3.0 drains more battery than stock froyo. That's the price. And 2%/h is not bad for sense roms.
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It's that bad? Is it the whole of Sense which drains it, or more specific apps/widgets?

Zenamez said:
It's that bad? Is it the whole of Sense which drains it, or more specific apps/widgets?
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No, imho it's not.
Sense and the inherent runnig apps/widgets.
But with setcpu and a screen off profile (245 min 245 max @ondemand governor) you can really improve your battery standby power. You can download this paid app here for free, because you are an xda user:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419

MatDrOiD said:
No, imho it's not.
Sense and the inherent runnig apps/widgets.
But with setcpu and a screen off profile (245 min 245 max @ondemand governor) you can really improve your battery standby power. You can download this paid app here for free, because you are an xda user:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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Out of interest, does it damage the phone if it's underclocked? I'm just worried that I'll burn the CPU out f it is underclocked and clocked back to stock if I frequently turn the screen for mundane tasks like checking the time.

I recently flashed to that ROM too - and I agree, battery power seems to be draining slightly more quickly than what it was originally (it could be because I'm playing around with settings and exploring new features). But probably not so much more that I'd be worried... left it charging overnight, and seems like I will be able to get a full day of normal use out of it (currently ~65% left and ~3hrs till i get back home).
Maybe double check your sync settings? possibly they've reverted back to sync-ing more often?
Otherwise, I guess you can go for a lighter ROM (i believe cyanogenmod will use less battery since it doesn't have Sense UI).

Actually, the battery does go down faster on InsertCoin 1.0.8 if you use all the Sense 3.0 goodies for example the weather lock screens, weather widgets, and the windmill-thing live wallpaper, which also changes its apperance with the weather.
Those literally suck the battery out, 40% only in 3-4 hours.
I have tried to deactivate those and the battery live is back to normal.
...the only problem is...those goodies will make your Desire super duper beautiful...it was for me a very hard choice to turn those off

Zenamez said:
Out of interest, does it damage the phone if it's underclocked? I'm just worried that I'll burn the CPU out f it is underclocked and clocked back to stock if I frequently turn the screen for mundane tasks like checking the time.
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Dunno about that but nothing bad has happened by me and I have been using setcpu for more than 8 months.
I use set cpu to speed up my Desire a bit, I set it to 128 - 1136 with smartass governor. (carefull by setting higher frequencies)
tips for battery saving:
- turn off sense sync and any unwanted syncs
- reduce sync intervals.
- turn off automatic brightness control, and set it as low as possible but keeping it still visible.
- use smartass or interactive govenor on setcpu.
- turn the internet connection off if you are on low signal strength.

aaa said:
Actually, the battery does go down faster on InsertCoin 1.0.8 if you use all the Sense 3.0 goodies for example the weather lock screens, weather widgets, and the windmill-thing live wallpaper, which also changes its apperance with the weather.
Those literally suck the battery out, 40% only in 3-4 hours.
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Yeah, the more animation, the more battery use. I think the only one I use now is the weather widget... though I actually prefer the old sense 'simple' animation, not a fan of the sense 3.0 videos... got to find a way to revert to the old one! (using clock lock screen.... prob chews up bit more battery than plain wallpaper, but oh so pretty!)

[Q] Best combination for great battery life

Hey guys, I've seen a lot of folks out there posting screen shots of 20+hrs with battery still remaining. I'd consider myself a heavy user, so maybe I shouldn't expect that... I run the Juggernaut ROM with Bullet kernel... Just recently switched to 4.1.
I've seen folks say that Faux's kernel is better... and tons of them are under volting? I'm not sure if they're over clocking AND under volting, or what...
Some are using SetCPU, some System Tuner, others using Faux's CPU app...
I see some users swearing by Juice Defender and other software too...
So my question is, for someone like me who wants to get better battery life without sacrificing connectivity (I use push for my gmail/exchange and want to keep it that way) what have you guys had the best luck with?
I use a lot of widgets (agenda widget, facebook, and Google News, Beautiful 4x1 Weather widget, and large Gtask widget) but I've been very careful to set them to refresh at reasonable intervals to avoid hammering my battery.
I run mostly with WiFi on at the house, but if I'm out on the road or at work, I keep it off.

FSUSeminole said:
Hey guys, I've seen a lot of folks out there posting screen shots of 20+hrs with battery still remaining. I'd consider myself a heavy user, so maybe I shouldn't expect that... I run the Juggernaut ROM with Bullet kernel... Just recently switched to 4.1.
I've seen folks say that Faux's kernel is better... and tons of them are under volting? I'm not sure if they're over clocking AND under volting, or what...
Some are using SetCPU, some System Tuner, others using Faux's CPU app...
I see some users swearing by Juice Defender and other software too...
So my question is, for someone like me who wants to get better battery life without sacrificing connectivity (I use push for my gmail/exchange and want to keep it that way) what have you guys had the best luck with?
I use a lot of widgets (agenda widget, facebook, and Google News, Beautiful 4x1 Weather widget, and large Gtask widget) but I've been very careful to set them to refresh at reasonable intervals to avoid hammering my battery.
I run mostly with WiFi on at the house, but if I'm out on the road or at work, I keep it off.
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Each device and set up is different. The only way you will be able to find what works best for you is trial and error. With what you have going on it will not be easy.

For faux kernel I uv 100mv and set my Max at 1512 and min at ~300. I use scripts and not Apps like setcpu or fauxcontrol.
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RipTide GP

Hi all,
I've been fiddling with RipTide GP a little bit, just wondering if anyone else has noticed a dip in fps when you set the graphics up from Default to Sharper Graphics?
I mean obviously this is to be expected but I was hoping the T3 could cope okay, what settings do you run it at and are you ROM'd or Stock?
Chears M'dears!
T-L-H

The-Last-Hylian said:
Hi all,
I've been fiddling with RipTide GP a little bit, just wondering if anyone else has noticed a dip in fps when you set the graphics up from Default to Sharper Graphics?
I mean obviously this is to be expected but I was hoping the T3 could cope okay, what settings do you run it at and are you ROM'd or Stock?
Chears M'dears!
T-L-H
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you loose 60fps with the full resolution, thats kinda acceptable given how effects heavy the game is
i also noticed with this game the interactive governor is better but not perfect, since your are using the tilt sensor and not "interacting" with the screen as muhc
and so the governor drops the clocks sometimes
best way to play it is with minimum clock set to 1.0ghz and interactive gov
wish so wish there was a game launcher app on android where we set governor, clocks and minfrees per game

hamdir said:
you loose 60fps with the full resolution, thats kinda acceptable given how effects heavy the game is
i also noticed with this game the interactive governor is better but not perfect, since your are using the tilt sensor and not "interacting" with the screen as muhc
and so the governor drops the clocks sometimes
best way to play it is with minimum clock set to 1.0ghz and interactive gov
wish so wish there was a game launcher app on android where we set governor, clocks and minfrees per game
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You lose a full 60fps when set to sharper Graphics?! Jeez that's alot, still as you said it is really effects heavy!
At first I thought I was getting tired and wasn't concentrating properly when playing lastnight! Now I know I was loosing a lotta fps!
Interactive Govenor seems best for most games then I think, RipTide GP, Nova 3 etc...
Still haven't set my Govenor yet as I need to install System Tuner.
A game launcher App that set up the Govenor, Clocks and minfrees would be great!, just click in and out of 'Gaming Mode' before and after you play would be amazing! Instead you need to change it all into 'Gaming Mode' and then back to defaults or loose loads of battery!

The-Last-Hylian said:
You lose a full 60fps when set to sharper Graphics?! Jeez that's alot, still as you said it is really effects heavy!
At first I thought I was getting tired and wasn't concentrating properly when playing lastnight! Now I know I was loosing a lotta fps!
Interactive Govenor seems best for most games then I think, RipTide GP, Nova 3 etc...
Still haven't set my Govenor yet as I need to install System Tuner.
A game launcher App that set up the Govenor, Clocks and minfrees would be great!, just click in and out of 'Gaming Mode' before and after you play would be amazing! Instead you need to change it all into 'Gaming Mode' and then back to defaults or loose loads of battery!
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still ondemand? forget FPS on that governor bro!

hamdir said:
still ondemand? forget FPS on that governor bro!
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I'm completely stock
So I haven't changed any of my Govenors about yet.

The-Last-Hylian said:
I'm completely stock
So I haven't changed any of my Govenors about yet.
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man you can change gov on the fly using system tuner and its free
go for it

hamdir said:
man you can change gov on the fly using system tuner and its free
go for it
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Is it best to leave it running the interactive gov? or is it best to change between Int. and OnD. govs?
Also, Task Killer... I thought I heard once that killing everything in TK is not a great idea as thememory managemnt is pretty aggressive... plus, it's got bits running in it that I'm not 100% on, should be okay to kill it all right?...
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Got System Tuner, how do I actually change the Govenors?

The-Last-Hylian said:
Is it best to leave it running the interactive gov? or is it best to change between Int. and OnD. govs?
Also, Task Killer... I thought I heard once that killing everything in TK is not a great idea as thememory managemnt is pretty aggressive... plus, it's got bits running in it that I'm not 100% on, should be okay to kill it all right?...
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no dont use task killer
you can use supercharge which is complicated but follow my guide to save the stock minfrees and change them on the fly using script manager widgets
or simply in System Tuner auto-kill menu you can change them on the fly
rebooting will restore the stock values
as for ondemand it best to switch back for battery when ur done
all explained in my gaming guide by the wide you just have to force yourself to read it

hamdir said:
no dont use task killer
you can use supercharge which is complicated but follow my guide to save the stock minfrees and change them on the fly using script manager widgets
or simply in System Tuner auto-kill menu you can change them on the fly
rebooting will restore the stock values
as for ondemand it best to switch back for battery when ur done
all explained in my gaming guide by the wide you just have to force yourself to read it
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I have read through it, a few times
I'm looking at it now

You experience slowdowns on HOX with Riptide GP? What's wrong? I mean, on my device with graphics maxed out the game runs silky smooth, no lags of any kind. In my opinion it may very well be the best optimized game for our device. And my HOX is still locked, unrooted and not modified in any way, I'm haven't even done the tricks hamdir has suggested in his guide. I never needed, although he does provide some sound advice. I just played a match of 3 rounds, finishing first just to check. And it only at a 3% of my battery!
Is it possible that you have loaded your Sense launcher with widgets/pages/cities or have many running background tasks that may actually cause the slowdown?

Feregorn said:
You experience slowdowns on HOX with Riptide GP? What's wrong? I mean, on my device with graphics maxed out the game runs silky smooth, no lags of any kind. In my opinion it may very well be the best optimized game for our device. And my HOX is still locked, unrooted and not modified in any way, I'm haven't even done the tricks hamdir has suggested in his guide. I never needed, although he does provide some sound advice. I just played a match of 3 rounds, finishing first just to check. And it only at a 3% of my battery!
Is it possible that you have loaded your Sense launcher with widgets/pages/cities or have many running background tasks that may actually cause the slowdown?
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frame drops are different from slow down

@ Feregorn: The game isn't slowing down I'm loosing frames, they're different.
Slow down is when everything slows down because the CPU/GPU can't cope with what they're processing and/or get bottlenecked.
Frame Drops are what happens when the game stops showing like 100fps and drops to like 40fps, so gameplay will look less 'smooth' and may appear to 'skip' a little bit.
Atleast that's my take on it, @ Hamdir, correct me if I'm wrong?

The-Last-Hylian said:
@ Feregorn: The game isn't slowing down I'm loosing frames, they're different.
Slow down is when everything slows down because the CPU/GPU can't cope with what they're processing and/or get bottlenecked.
Frame Drops are what happens when the game stops showing like 100fps and drops to like 40fps, so gameplay will look less 'smooth' and may appear to 'skip' a little bit.
Atleast that's my take on it, @ Hamdir, correct me if I'm wrong?
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speed remains the same just the smoothness sensation lowers as the frame the rate is reducing from 60fps to 30fps or less

Mine don't lag at all

I stand corrected then...Oww guess I'll have to live with my mistake....But although it may seem that we are talking 2 different things the gist of the matter is that while playing with Riptide on my HOX I still don't experience any framedrops/slowdowns or whatever. Game apperas to me, to run silky smooth (and I'm an experienced gamer), just like GoW 3 did on the PS3. I'm talking about THAT kind of optimization. I can't understand what in the world has made the game to have on your defice such an inferior performance that it becomes noticeable.

which firmwares do you guys have?

1.29.401.11. for me

I only get noticeable frame dips when I am on stock on franco and eternity I don't notice any

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1.29.401.11. for me
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I have the same also. Everything stock. But on the Sense homescreen, I only have 3 pages, one with the Weather clock, google search and a birthday widget, one with the full-page music widget and one with the full page calendar widget. I've also disabled autosyncing for most of the time. Maybe these are helpful in improving overall performance???

[Q] Setcpu Configuration?

I've recently installed setcpu and kinda fiddled around with it too much. Is there a way to go back to default setting? Do I just uninstall and reboot?
I downloaded it at first to see if it can help with some performances in games but not really sure if it can help.
Any recommended settings for playing games? And then settings for normal/easy use of the device?
I'm currently on Telus, rooted device no CWM or other ROM or Kernels (Read setcpu actually doesn't take affect until custom kernel?)
Thanks again!

I use setcpu to under clock my phone to save battery, I also have a profile set up so it uses minimal cpu while the screen is off again to save on battery. Other than that games play amazing on here haven't had any issues. I what issues are you having?
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drock212 said:
I use setcpu to under clock my phone to save battery, I also have a profile set up so it uses minimal cpu while the screen is off again to save on battery. Other than that games play amazing on here haven't had any issues. I what issues are you having?
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GTA 3 seems to be sluggish and lagging a decent amount. NOVA 3 seems to lag a bit as well, especially online it lags a crap ton (I doubt it's my wireless issue as other games seems to play fine over wifi).
Would you mind sharing one of your profiles for when the screen is off/sleep mode? I read a few threads and thought that is a great idea as some people have a profile from 12am-7am where the cpu is barely running and is near deep sleep mode of some kind.
Sorry to be bothersome but what were the default values for the cpu? I'm not sure what the ondemand and cfq mean. And do I need a custom kernel for setcpu to take affect? On the playstore someone commented that you need a custom kernel

Default is on demand cfq. The profile I have setup is for whenever I turn the screen off min 594, max 702. I've tried setting it lower but I find it makes it sluggish when I wake the phone up. As far as your games lagging I wouldn't be able to help you. Just make sure that power saver is turned off cause that defaults your cpu down to 1ghz max.
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For the main, would it be okay to have max at 1512mhz and min at 384mhz? And would it be safe to have it max 1512mhz and min 1512mhz for games?

Yeah having your cpu running at maximum is fine, and during games having it cranked all the way up is fine too. Only thing to take into consideration is your battery.
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drock212 said:
Yeah having your cpu running at maximum is fine, and during games having it cranked all the way up is fine too. Only thing to take into consideration is your battery.
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Thanks,
Does anyone else have any thoughts to share?

My own setcpu settings are
384-1728 with Battery above 50%
384-1458 below 50%
384-1134 below 30%
384-810 below 15%
msm-dcvs scaling for all of them
Yesterday that put me at 39 hours and 20 minutes from 100% charge to 1% with pretty minimal use.

anubus45 said:
My own setcpu settings are
384-1728 with Battery above 50%
384-1458 below 50%
384-1134 below 30%
384-810 below 15%
msm-dcvs scaling for all of them
Yesterday that put me at 39 hours and 20 minutes from 100% charge to 1% with pretty minimal use.
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Hey try a different scaling that that.
I read in a different thread that msm-dcvs was Samsungs stock scaling mode and that it was pretty good.
I tried it out and my phone lagged horribly on home screen videos and keyboard.
I since changed it and everything is running super smooth again
Just thought I'd let you know that's it's not all that's it's cracked up to be..
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dtr145r said:
Hey try a different scaling that that.
I read in a different thread that msm-dcvs was Samsungs stock scaling mode and that it was pretty good.
I tried it out and my phone lagged horribly on home screen videos and keyboard.
I since changed it and everything is running super smooth again
Just thought I'd let you know that's it's not all that's it's cracked up to be..
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Hmm, I tried it out out based on feedback in another thread, but I haven't had any lag personally. What would you recommend? I was using Ondemand, and it seems to be roughly the same performance-wise, though it seems like better battery life.
Currently using CM9 Nightly 7-17 with morfic's Trinity GST Alpha23 Kernel

dtr145r said:
Hey try a different scaling that that.
I read in a different thread that msm-dcvs was Samsungs stock scaling mode and that it was pretty good.
I tried it out and my phone lagged horribly on home screen videos and keyboard.
I since changed it and everything is running super smooth again
Just thought I'd let you know that's it's not all that's it's cracked up to be..
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anubus45 said:
My own setcpu settings are
384-1728 with Battery above 50%
384-1458 below 50%
384-1134 below 30%
384-810 below 15%
msm-dcvs scaling for all of them
Yesterday that put me at 39 hours and 20 minutes from 100% charge to 1% with pretty minimal use.
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Thats strange, on my setcpu only goes from 384mhz to 1512mhz. How'd you manage to get 1728 O_O
Also I'm not too sure if this is because I downloaded setcpu but for example say I'm on the third page from right/left of the home screen. When I press the homescreen, it doesn't fluently transition to the center screen or is this just me overthinking. I even tried uninstalling setcpu to see if that was the problem but doesn't seem like it helped. Not sure if the transition before was like this but kinda feels weird.
EDIT: If you look at the white dots below the icons, the left/right third screen from the home screen, when the home button is pressed the dot jumps to the middle, I'm sure there was a smooth transition where the dot moved through as the screen flips, but now the page just jumps

anubus45 said:
Hmm, I tried it out out based on feedback in another thread, but I haven't had any lag personally. What would you recommend? I was using Ondemand, and it seems to be roughly the same performance-wise, though it seems like better battery life.
Currently using CM9 Nightly 7-17 with morfic's Trinity GST Alpha23 Kernel
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ive got best results with interactive scaling i do have a custom kernel that supports interactive.
Intercrew said:
Thats strange, on my setcpu only goes from 384mhz to 1512mhz. How'd you manage to get 1728 O_O
Also I'm not too sure if this is because I downloaded setcpu but for example say I'm on the third page from right/left of the home screen. When I press the homescreen, it doesn't fluently transition to the center screen or is this just me overthinking. I even tried uninstalling setcpu to see if that was the problem but doesn't seem like it helped. Not sure if the transition before was like this but kinda feels weird.
EDIT: If you look at the white dots below the icons, the left/right third screen from the home screen, when the home button is pressed the dot jumps to the middle, I'm sure there was a smooth transition where the dot moved through as the screen flips, but now the page just jumps
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the answer there is a custom kernel as well it was over clocked to that speed.
ill post my settings here in a few minutes.

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