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Competition thru litigation, just desserts

The tally mark for lawsuits Apple and Samsung are currently embroiled in with one another has reached 21. With Samsung being a real technology producer that Apple is absolutely dependent on, Apple may have bit off more than it can chew. They must think they're a different company than they are and forgot for a second that most of their sales aren't based on technology but marketing gimmicks instead. Samsung wants to teach the little Apple punks a little lesson. The saga continues. http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/231602074
The Netherlands is a Euro member that excludes itself from the rulings on bans of products by other Euro member states. Germany was a hit against the Samsung Galaxy Tab, a ridiculous one at that. Now Samsung is going after Netherlands to start. I expect its litigation to expand into Korea and Japan fairly soon.
Here are some great quotes hot off the presses. I love what I'm hearing.
“We’ll be pursuing our rights for this in a more aggressive way from now on,” Lee Younghee, head of global marketing for mobile communications, said Friday in an interview.
"We've been quite respectful and also passive in a way. However, we shouldn't be … anymore."
Earlier this week, an unnamed Samsung executive said that the company plans to take Apple's unannounced iPhone 5 to court in Korea the moment it debuts. "For as long as Apple does not drop mobile telecommunications functions, it would be impossible for it to sell its i-branded products without using our patents," said the exec. "We will stick to a strong stance against Apple during the lingering legal fights."
Samsung Executives are now also regularly referring to Apple as patent "free-riders." It looks like Samsung won't accept Apple's bull**** any longer and put it in its well deserved place. My message to Samsung. Show no respect for Apple as a competitor. They know nothing of the concept. They deserve everything you can throw at them. They started it, teach them a lesson.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/231602074

Good hope they really bend them over.
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tenaciousj said:
Good hope they really bend them over.
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Y you gotta go gay right away......... Lol
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nate420 said:
Y you gotta go gay right away......... Lol
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Its not gay, apple is a *****
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1. Why does everyone think Apple invented video conferencing?
2. Why does everyone think purchasing from Apple is "American?"

abowlby said:
1. Why does everyone think Apple invented video conferencing?
2. Why does everyone think purchasing from Apple is "American?"
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Steve jobs is a nazi zombie with psychic and brain washing powers over the simple minds of america and with 10 year old patents involving almost any new technology produced today. he has the "legal" right to fight any competition and sometimes win, due to the ammount of income and taxes he pays every year, the american government will stand behind him.........
Im gonna wiki this^
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nate420 said:
Y you gotta go gay right away......... Lol
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I lol'd.
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If the judge in Samsung vs apple case allows this I'll be at a loss for words...

www.fosspatents.com/2012/07/samsung-objects-to-gratuitous-images-of.html?m=1
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Raver27 said:
www.fosspatents.com/2012/07/samsung-objects-to-gratuitous-images-of.html?m=1
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I think that this Judge has no idea what she is doing, I wonder what product she uses.
Almost all her rulings have been over turned by appeals courts and she has always sided in the case of Apple.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a .....

My bad but what does it mean ? Didnt understand anything lol
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bikrame said:
My bad but what does it mean ? Didnt understand anything lol
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Basically Apple is using pictures of Steve Jobs in evidence photos (him holding the iPad when it was unveiled in 2010, etc.), presumably to win sympathy from the jury since he's dead and all that jazz. Samsung said, "those pictures have nothing to do with the evidence!" Judge Hoe...I mean Koh said, "Yes they do, feel free to use them Apple." So Samsung said, "Fine you can use them, but if you're going to let them use those pictures of Jobs, you have to let us quote what Jobs said about going thermonuclear on Android [from his autobiography]." The Judge said no. So basically, she keeps siding with Apple on everything, and it's effing ridiculous. She's either a fangirl herself, or she's getting paid off by Apple behind the scenes.

So wait, because Steve Jobs said that he would spend his dying breath to destroy Android because it infringes his patents, that means that it's evidence against Apple? If anything it shows that Apple truly believes that they did infringe on their patents...
And their using photos of Steve Jobs to display the product, not just random photos of Steve for sympathy.

android >> apple all day every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What Apple is doing is ridiculous. Its the same as saying no one else can manufacturer a 52" 16:9 device with a screen that displays moving pictures a (TV) I hope some judge rules that they not only lose these ridiculous cases but have to pay damages, court costs and the legal fees of everyone they attempted to sue.
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Raver27 said:
www.fosspatents.com/2012/07/samsung-objects-to-gratuitous-images-of.html?m=1
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http://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...-ruling-on-3-samsung-devices-in-munich-court/

Crisisx1 said:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...-ruling-on-3-samsung-devices-in-munich-court/
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That's the sad part, as more and more international courts throw out Apple's ridiculous patents and claims, this "judge" keeps giving Apple all the leeway they want in this case, while denying pretty much all of Samsung's motions

z0phi3l said:
That's the sad part, as more and more international courts throw out Apple's ridiculous patents and claims, this "judge" keeps giving Apple all the leeway they want in this case, while denying pretty much all of Samsung's motions
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yeah man it is ridiculous.. a lot of countries have already banned samsung from selling the note.. smh

How much you think apple paid for this verdict?

http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/24/apple-v-samsung-decision/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Was never going to be a fair trial in an American courthouse, just they way the world operates.
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This is BS verdict for real. They brought in a jury that knew nothing about patents laws. The judge had to give them a crash course in it. Fishy business. So do this mean no galaxy s4. What's next apple going sue Google claiming Android os infringed on apple BS ios
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

blackdragon79 said:
This is BS verdict for real. They brought in a jury that knew nothing about patents laws. The judge had to give them a crash course in it. Fishy business. So do this mean no galaxy s4. What's next apple going sue Google claiming Android os infringed on apple BS ios
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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This was all about the older samsung phones I think, I don't see it affecting our current or future galaxy devices.
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jury was a bunch of apple fanboys..
it's really pathetic to let a bunch of people who have no real knowledge when it comes to this kind of stuff let them dictate these type of lawsuits..

Iphony89 said:
This was all about the older samsung phones I think, I don't see it affecting our current or future galaxy devices.
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I sure hope not. Samsung need to stick it to apple or just development for them all together
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

I wonder if everyone in the jury owns an iPhone 4S in an Otter Box...? The thing I love most about my Samsung GS3 is the fact that it's not an iPhone.

Never stood a chance as this was held literally in Apple's backyard.
As for the future, who knows, but this is a really big deal. With what was granted, no phone maker will come close to an iphone design again for fear of a lawsuit with now a precedent. Worst case is manufacturers start to question if Android is a viable ecosystem considering everything it runs on is probably sue-able by Apple now.
They hopefully stop with Samsung and don't go further as Sammy was their biggest threat. But they might now set their sites on HTC as well and be the final nail in that coffin.
While this is bad enough, I think the worst is because it sets a standard and Apple now has control over what we know the mobile industry today.
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The fact that Samsung were awarded nothing at all in their counter claim just proves that the whole thing was rigged...can't wait for the Note 2. Even before I bought my first Samsung phone I was never fond of apple products and this just increases my stance.
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Does anyone have any links to more on Apple vs Samsung? I coulda swore I read recently that Apple lost to Samsung is another country and now Samsung is suing Apple. Can't find it though :/

hayzooos said:
Never stood a chance as this was held literally in Apple's backyard.
As for the future, who knows, but this is a really big deal. With what was granted, no phone maker will come close to an iphone design again for fear of a lawsuit with now a precedent. Worst case is manufacturers start to question if Android is a viable ecosystem considering everything it runs on is probably sue-able by Apple now.
They hopefully stop with Samsung and don't go further as Sammy was their biggest threat. But they might now set their sites on HTC as well and be the final nail in that coffin.
While this is bad enough, I think the worst is because it sets a standard and Apple now has control over what we know the mobile industry today.
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They shouldn't have been allowed such broad patents in the first place. What's next apple going start trying to patent numbers?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Wearespacepeople said:
Does anyone have any links to more on Apple vs Samsung? I coulda swore I read recently that Apple lost to Samsung is another country and now Samsung is suing Apple. Can't find it though :/
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Apple is now banned from selling the I phones/iPads in south Korea And I think they have to pay Sammy, 22000$? And Samsung has to pay them I think 1300?
But that's just south Korea
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Apple was like I'll give you 10%
Judge was like that's too little
Then both said eureka
The more we charge Samsung the more we both get
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Its gonna be appealed and go on for years.... the judge even did a doulble take on some of the juries verdicts... Apples victory was so lopsided foul play is obvious and should make the appeals a breeze
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Appeals will be fun. Both sides were playing laying the ground with for appeals during the trial incase of a lose.
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ilostmypistons said:
Its gonna be appealed and go on for years.... the judge even did a doulble take on some of the juries verdicts... Apples victory was so lopsided foul play is obvious and should make the appeals a breeze
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Love to see apple fall flat on it's face
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

I hate apple for this...
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those guys in the evo lte forum are........ i was trying to alert them but they just started being butts because i type fast. This is not school. I really feel for Samsung here and HTC is no better with the impending doom looming(Apple/Nokia). Its crazy how they got nothing but owe so much and in time this will directly effect customers.....

I hope and pray that them bastards get a taste of their own medicine against moto/Google
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Apple gets no respect for this.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Apple vs Samsung

What do you think about the verdict?

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What do you think about the verdict?
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I hate to say it, but what does this have to do with the Ion?

shot down..and nothing XD

Wrong section at the very least. Q&A I think not.

Hate to say but it affects more than Samsung guys Sony is an android partner too the consequences of this verdict I fear may have a wide reaching effect on a lot of major and minor players.
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Well the defence tactic of 'yeah we copied them but they copied someone else!' Isn't the best....
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thanitos said:
Well the defence tactic of 'yeah we copied them but they copied someone else!' Isn't the best....
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That defense worked for Microsoft when Apple tried to sue them over the icon interface. Microsoft claimed the icon interface came from Xerox. Apple eventually dropped the case.
Also, this is far from over. Samsung will definitely appeal. There are plenty of reasons for possibly winning under appeal.
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thanitos said:
Well the defence tactic of 'yeah we copied them but they copied someone else!' Isn't the best....
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True but bringing that to light will make the world and apple drones see Apple for what it is, a money grubber the steals tech and not a company that "thinks different" or even really innovates all that much.
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jeriku said:
True but bringing that to light will make the world and apple drones see Apple for what it is, a money grubber the steals tech and not a company that "thinks different" or even really innovates all that much.
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Money = power. Logic + truth= second place.
I think Ms beat apple because apple doesn't have the money Ms does but I have no clue or facts or background to support that. Just a thought
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thanitos said:
Money = power. Logic + truth= second place.
I think Ms beat apple because apple doesn't have the money Ms does but I have no clue or facts or background to support that. Just a thought
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MS beats Apple because apple has always locked down their tech. It goes back to pc clones. First to saturate the market takes the prize, usually.
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Moved to General.

Microsoft beat Apple because Apple was basically told you cannot patent icons. This judgement is a joke and we can only hope it is overturned on appeal.
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Moved to General.
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Thank you.
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The main reason for Apple go againist Samsung is Samsung is an important supplier for making apple products especially iphone. If you check history of Samsung phones model, they never have similar model until iphone 3g started to rise of global sales. Samsung then release products like instinct. I worked for a Canadian carrier and I remember Samsung was pushing hard with the Instinct model and had trainings and incentive for sales. Its normal to see competitors being copy cat because its all about money. But samsung was doing it too much. Remeber the smart cover incident? Galaxy tab 10.1 was launched with the same design of Apple smart cover and it was the relatives of the Boss of Samsung who made it. They had to pull away this product line right away. If Apple is a person and that is you. And your buddy Samsung is part of the supplier of your products which you spend a lot of times and energy to design. And one day he created similar product lines and make money from it and dont admit he is copying. So what would you do?
Just my thought, im not a fan of Apple or Samsung. Don't care. Whoever makes cool products and feed my lifestyle, I will buy and use it.
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Samsung ready to sue Apple if iPhone5 has LTE.

Ha! This made my day. Apple's "God Complex" only blinded them to all the technology they're still dependent of. It's time that Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
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drewmonge said:
Ha! This made my day. Apple's "God Complex" only blinded them to all the technology they're still dependent of. It's time that Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
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I love it! Thanks this made my day
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drewmonge said:
Ha! This made my day. Apple's "God Complex" only blinded them to all the technology they're still dependent of. It's time that Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
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Interesting article, really had to click a link within that article to really read the goods.
From what I think is true, Samsung makes (most) of the processors for the iPhone. Isn't the LTE radio inside the processor? I don't understand what grounds Samsung will have to sue Apple for injecting LTE into their phones when Samsung most likely will provide the radio for Apple. After researching Samsung only owns 12.2% of the LTE patent and I guess has the right to sue Apple.
If Steve Jobs was still alive (RIP) I would say there would be no way Apple would jam LTE into their phones, who knows now though
I still don't understand what grounds of patent infringements Samsung will have to sue Apple, if Samsung wants to recover their money, bump the price for the processors they sell to Apple... haha

If a few of the android phone manufacturers have rights to the patent then Mabry it could become a lot bigger than just Samsung.
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Apple will get what's coming to them
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Doesn't the ipad 3 have lte connectivity?
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Apple is basically shooting themselves in the foot with all this mess. I was never really an iPhone or an iPad fan, and vowed never to get one. But I did still like the MacBook pros and such. Because of their usefulness in stuff like video production and recording. But now after all this patent trolling and manipulation of the patent system, I've vowed never to buy anything Apple related. And I know other people feel the same. They as a company now just make my stomach churn.
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drewmonge said:
Apple is basically shooting themselves in the foot with all this mess. I was never really an iPhone or an iPad fan, and vowed never to get one. But I did still like the MacBook pros and such. Because of their usefulness in stuff like video production and recording. But now after all this patent trolling and manipulation of the patent system, I've vowed never to buy anything Apple related. And I know other people feel the same. They as a company now just make my stomach churn.
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I work with a few "Apple Fanboys" who, after all this law suite, have sworn away from Apple... they claim the next phone they get will be a Samsung powered Android... haha
Now let's see if they will backup their words... one of them said they are embarrassed to have an iPhone now

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