Competition thru litigation, just desserts - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

The tally mark for lawsuits Apple and Samsung are currently embroiled in with one another has reached 21. With Samsung being a real technology producer that Apple is absolutely dependent on, Apple may have bit off more than it can chew. They must think they're a different company than they are and forgot for a second that most of their sales aren't based on technology but marketing gimmicks instead. Samsung wants to teach the little Apple punks a little lesson. The saga continues. http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/231602074
The Netherlands is a Euro member that excludes itself from the rulings on bans of products by other Euro member states. Germany was a hit against the Samsung Galaxy Tab, a ridiculous one at that. Now Samsung is going after Netherlands to start. I expect its litigation to expand into Korea and Japan fairly soon.
Here are some great quotes hot off the presses. I love what I'm hearing.
“We’ll be pursuing our rights for this in a more aggressive way from now on,” Lee Younghee, head of global marketing for mobile communications, said Friday in an interview.
"We've been quite respectful and also passive in a way. However, we shouldn't be … anymore."
Earlier this week, an unnamed Samsung executive said that the company plans to take Apple's unannounced iPhone 5 to court in Korea the moment it debuts. "For as long as Apple does not drop mobile telecommunications functions, it would be impossible for it to sell its i-branded products without using our patents," said the exec. "We will stick to a strong stance against Apple during the lingering legal fights."
Samsung Executives are now also regularly referring to Apple as patent "free-riders." It looks like Samsung won't accept Apple's bull**** any longer and put it in its well deserved place. My message to Samsung. Show no respect for Apple as a competitor. They know nothing of the concept. They deserve everything you can throw at them. They started it, teach them a lesson.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/231602074

Good hope they really bend them over.
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tenaciousj said:
Good hope they really bend them over.
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Y you gotta go gay right away......... Lol
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nate420 said:
Y you gotta go gay right away......... Lol
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Its not gay, apple is a *****
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1. Why does everyone think Apple invented video conferencing?
2. Why does everyone think purchasing from Apple is "American?"

abowlby said:
1. Why does everyone think Apple invented video conferencing?
2. Why does everyone think purchasing from Apple is "American?"
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Steve jobs is a nazi zombie with psychic and brain washing powers over the simple minds of america and with 10 year old patents involving almost any new technology produced today. he has the "legal" right to fight any competition and sometimes win, due to the ammount of income and taxes he pays every year, the american government will stand behind him.........
Im gonna wiki this^
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nate420 said:
Y you gotta go gay right away......... Lol
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I lol'd.
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US Judge Grants Injunction on the Galaxy Nexus

Way to go, Apple. Those on the fence better get yours now.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3126934/apple-samsung-judge-bans-galaxy-nexus
apple has no case here, they only banned it because apple was crying about the "irreparable" damage done from selling gal nexus, they're so desperate that they would pay a 95million dollar bond for it knowing that google now=/= siri and that android has had voice search for a long time now..
what apple is trying to do here is decrease the influence of android, they are just desperate for more market share..we all know suing google over google now apple has no case whatsoever..
AznDud333 said:
apple has no case here, they only banned it because apple was crying about the "irreparable" damage done from selling gal nexus, they're so desperate that they would pay a 95million dollar bond for it knowing that google now=/= siri and that android has had voice search for a long time now..
what apple is trying to do here is decrease the influence of android, they are just desperate for more market share..we all know suing google over google now apple has no case whatsoever..
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Yes, while I'm sure Google will be able to appeal the case, it still bugs me.
In the long run the apple will rot if they keep this kind of stuff up.
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Iphone is the one who should be banned, they keep complaining that these phones have some of the iphone pattens!! the iphone is to damn plain, and they should be banned for using the pull down notification witch its been android's first feature..
I'd love to buy a nexus but I think we may see jb on our device(hacked on)
Anyway maybe we should buy a nexus to support google
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grawkiller73 said:
Yes, while I'm sure Google will be able to appeal the case, it still bugs me.
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its just the justice system around here bro..whoever has more money will usually win the case..i've seen hobos sentenced to 5 year in prison after turning himself in for stealing 20 dollars and ceos who stole millions of dollars get sentenced 30days in jail..
to be honest..the first iphone was somewhat of innovation, sticking touchscreen and phone together... but over the years apple has done nothing except patent trolling, what did they really add? wallpaper and siri? the amount of innovations we've seen on android has long surpassed whatever apple did..remember the fact that android got voice search first..
I read the article. Apple said in their obligatory statement that "phones are looking and feeling more like the iPhone and iPad".
Frankly, I've yet to see an iPhone as big as an SGS3. And everyone knows that Apple has had all kinds of problems/complaints about Siri.
Grow up, Apple. Your stuff was going to be duplicated (and made better) eventually.
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sparkie6point0 said:
I read the article. Apple said in their obligatory statement that "phones are looking and feeling more like the iPhone and iPad".
Frankly, I've yet to see an iPhone as big as an SGS3. And everyone knows that Apple has had all kinds of problems/complaints about Siri.
Grow up, Apple. Your stuff was going to be duplicated (and made better) eventually.
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perhaps samsung can sue apple for copying the enlargement of screen size then
on a serious note, this is all getting ridiculous..gal nexus is nothing like iphone LOL.it's ergonomic unlike ibrick..
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its just the justice system around here bro..whoever has more money will usually win the case..i've seen hobos sentenced to 5 year in prison after turning himself in for stealing 20 dollars and ceos who stole millions of dollars get sentenced 30days in jail..
to be honest..the first iphone was somewhat of innovation, sticking touchscreen and phone together... but over the years apple has done nothing except patent trolling, what did they really add? wallpaper and siri? the amount of innovations we've seen on android has long surpassed whatever apple did..remember the fact that android got voice search first..
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Pretty sure the iPhone was not the first touch screen phone. Apple is not known for innovation, they are known for imitation with a slight twist. If anyone should be getting injunctions against their products, it is Apple.
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I find it more than a little suspicious that the SAME JUDGE ruled in apple's favor in both this case & the galaxy tab case. I think I smell an iFan, how about you?
"This kind of blatant copying is wrong and, as we've said many times before, we need to protect Apple's intellectual property when companies steal our ideas."
But it's ok when YOU steal ideas & blatantly copy designs, right? I'd like to see apple get sued for copying the LG Prada's design, the Xerox Alto's OS, and Google's notification bar.
God I hate this company. I cannot believe the bull**** they get away with. Every time they start to feel threatened they try to sue their competition into oblivion. Disgusting.
Didn't android get voice search functionality in Eclair that came out in 2009? Didn't siri come out in 2011? Yeah the judge is a total itool
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Apple can't create without Steve Jobs(R.I.P) So their plan is to eliminate the competition in court...lol pathetic, Just like there fan boys.
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This is a SGH-T989 forum not let's start a thread about the nexus and complaining about apple when its unrelated.
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lol I just saw this in the most recent thread I had no idea what forum it was in
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Hoezack said:
Apple can't create without Steve Jobs(R.I.P) So their plan is to eliminate the competition in court...lol pathetic, Just like there fan boys.
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LOL
steve jobs never created anything..he vowed to destroy android infact..
let see..UI , mice keyboard =stolen by steve from xerox, then stole by bill gates
tablet=stolen from microsoft
touchscreen= stolen from G Samuel
voice search= stolen from google
they're just patent trolls..honestly..the giant apple logo seems to attract people with a weird genetic disorder that causes them to lose their mind over that specific logo.
JPOKeefe said:
This is a SGH-T989 forum not let's start a thread about the nexus and complaining about apple when its unrelated.
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You have a good point, but when a thread is made about apple having a successful ban on a great phone like the nexus, u have to expect some anger. Maybe it should be in the Nexus general thread?
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steve jobs never created anything..he vowed to destroy android infact..
let see..UI , mice keyboard =stolen by steve from xerox, then stole by bill gates
tablet=stolen from microsoft
touchscreen= stolen from G Samuel
voice search= stolen from google
they're just patent trolls..honestly..the giant apple logo seems to attract people with a weird genetic disorder that causes them to lose their mind over that specific logo.
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I'm not trying to be mean but you really don't know what you're talking about. Please read more about technology and its history before making posts like these.
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Hoezack said:
Apple can't create without Steve Jobs(R.I.P) So their plan is to eliminate the competition in court...lol pathetic, Just like there fan boys.
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They were patent trolls when he was alive and they're patent trolls now.
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This has nothing to do with the SGS II, and there are plenty of threads in General about the subject.

Looks like google might be a nice place to work

http://9to5google.com/2012/08/08/google-exec-explains-new-death-benefits-for-googlers/
That's amazing.
It burns when I Tapatalk...
And this is why Google is better than Apple... I'm sure I don't need to mention the unfit work environment Apple provides their employees or the incident with employees jumping out windows.
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Mattix724 said:
And this is why Google is better than Apple... I'm sure I don't need to mention the unfit work environment Apple provides their employees or the incident with employees jumping out windows.
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Jumping out of windows really ? :screwy:
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Wasn't the guy that jumped out the window a foxconn exec?
dberend said:
Wasn't the guy that jumped out the window a foxconn exec?
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It is very sad, it seems to happen quite often in China.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides
woody296 said:
It is very sad, it seems to happen quite often in China.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides
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Foxconn makes a ton of products for everyone and of all those companies, Apple is the only one to even acknowledge it and do something about it.
I know we have an anti Apple outlook on these boards but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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That was my point. Im not a fan of Apple or their IP strategy but I don't think they should be blamed entirely for their contractors activities.
However they must've decided to look the other way because horrible working conditions in Asian factories isn't exactly a new problem.
That's just a silly apples to oranges comparison...
I had to say it, sorry. Apple employees are just as happy as Google employees who are just as happy as Microsoft employees. They've all got amazing benefits and perks when you work for them.
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How much you think apple paid for this verdict?

http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/24/apple-v-samsung-decision/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
Was never going to be a fair trial in an American courthouse, just they way the world operates.
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This is BS verdict for real. They brought in a jury that knew nothing about patents laws. The judge had to give them a crash course in it. Fishy business. So do this mean no galaxy s4. What's next apple going sue Google claiming Android os infringed on apple BS ios
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
blackdragon79 said:
This is BS verdict for real. They brought in a jury that knew nothing about patents laws. The judge had to give them a crash course in it. Fishy business. So do this mean no galaxy s4. What's next apple going sue Google claiming Android os infringed on apple BS ios
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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This was all about the older samsung phones I think, I don't see it affecting our current or future galaxy devices.
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jury was a bunch of apple fanboys..
it's really pathetic to let a bunch of people who have no real knowledge when it comes to this kind of stuff let them dictate these type of lawsuits..
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This was all about the older samsung phones I think, I don't see it affecting our current or future galaxy devices.
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I sure hope not. Samsung need to stick it to apple or just development for them all together
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
I wonder if everyone in the jury owns an iPhone 4S in an Otter Box...? The thing I love most about my Samsung GS3 is the fact that it's not an iPhone.
Never stood a chance as this was held literally in Apple's backyard.
As for the future, who knows, but this is a really big deal. With what was granted, no phone maker will come close to an iphone design again for fear of a lawsuit with now a precedent. Worst case is manufacturers start to question if Android is a viable ecosystem considering everything it runs on is probably sue-able by Apple now.
They hopefully stop with Samsung and don't go further as Sammy was their biggest threat. But they might now set their sites on HTC as well and be the final nail in that coffin.
While this is bad enough, I think the worst is because it sets a standard and Apple now has control over what we know the mobile industry today.
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The fact that Samsung were awarded nothing at all in their counter claim just proves that the whole thing was rigged...can't wait for the Note 2. Even before I bought my first Samsung phone I was never fond of apple products and this just increases my stance.
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Does anyone have any links to more on Apple vs Samsung? I coulda swore I read recently that Apple lost to Samsung is another country and now Samsung is suing Apple. Can't find it though :/
hayzooos said:
Never stood a chance as this was held literally in Apple's backyard.
As for the future, who knows, but this is a really big deal. With what was granted, no phone maker will come close to an iphone design again for fear of a lawsuit with now a precedent. Worst case is manufacturers start to question if Android is a viable ecosystem considering everything it runs on is probably sue-able by Apple now.
They hopefully stop with Samsung and don't go further as Sammy was their biggest threat. But they might now set their sites on HTC as well and be the final nail in that coffin.
While this is bad enough, I think the worst is because it sets a standard and Apple now has control over what we know the mobile industry today.
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They shouldn't have been allowed such broad patents in the first place. What's next apple going start trying to patent numbers?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
Wearespacepeople said:
Does anyone have any links to more on Apple vs Samsung? I coulda swore I read recently that Apple lost to Samsung is another country and now Samsung is suing Apple. Can't find it though :/
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Apple is now banned from selling the I phones/iPads in south Korea And I think they have to pay Sammy, 22000$? And Samsung has to pay them I think 1300?
But that's just south Korea
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Apple was like I'll give you 10%
Judge was like that's too little
Then both said eureka
The more we charge Samsung the more we both get
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Its gonna be appealed and go on for years.... the judge even did a doulble take on some of the juries verdicts... Apples victory was so lopsided foul play is obvious and should make the appeals a breeze
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Appeals will be fun. Both sides were playing laying the ground with for appeals during the trial incase of a lose.
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Its gonna be appealed and go on for years.... the judge even did a doulble take on some of the juries verdicts... Apples victory was so lopsided foul play is obvious and should make the appeals a breeze
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Love to see apple fall flat on it's face
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
I hate apple for this...
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those guys in the evo lte forum are........ i was trying to alert them but they just started being butts because i type fast. This is not school. I really feel for Samsung here and HTC is no better with the impending doom looming(Apple/Nokia). Its crazy how they got nothing but owe so much and in time this will directly effect customers.....
I hope and pray that them bastards get a taste of their own medicine against moto/Google
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Apple gets no respect for this.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Samsung Found Guilty in Patent Trial

http://phandroid.com/2012/08/24/breaking-verdict-reached-in-apple-v-samsung-patent-trial/
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08...ict-in-apple-vs-samsung-case/?test=latestnews
Scorecard so far:
* Jury finds Samsung infringement of Apple utility, design patents for some (though not all) products
* Jury upholds Apple utility, design patents
* Jury upholds Apple trade dress '983
* Jury finds Samsung "diluted" Apple's registered iPhone, iPhone 3 and "Combination iPhone" trade dress on some products, not on others
* No Apple infringement of Samsung utility patents
Damages owed by Samsung:
* $1.05 billion and counting
BS verdict
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
This sucks ass.
Paid verdict. **** apple
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
So what now? Will this affect the S3? Is the S4 gonna be triangle shaped?
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Wow... well u have the most expensive company in the world going another rich company it all comes down to who and what their price is... this is very unfortunate to innovation in the world.. I really do hope someone drops a nuke on the apple head quarters and their affiliates
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In other news.... Ford is suing Chevy for having a button, that if pressed, rolls down your window..
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dcaplinger76 said:
So what now? Will this affect the S3? Is the S4 gonna be triangle shaped?
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1 sided polygons - 11 sided ones have been copyrighted
Same with 13 sided - infinity sided
Apple decided to leave out 12 for fun
I can't wait to see my dodecagon s4
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dcaplinger76 said:
In other news.... Ford is suing Chevy for having a button, that if pressed, rolls down your window..
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And Apple is suing both of them for using a button for anything
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All this because....Samsung released a iPhone killer product lmao....
So in other news... Motorola Google vs apple
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And Apple is suing both of them for using a button for anything
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lol and this is probably the best reason yet to never buy anything from apple i can understand protecting your ideas but it seems like most of the stuff they didnt even come up with
this sucks. but samsung can sue, when the iphone with LTE comes out samsung can sue apple because of the patents they have for LTE. with the divisons the samsung have they eat the billions, and get the money back with the parts they make for the iphone/ipad they make.
Everyone is complaining....its actually a win! Besides apple how many phones use or are now using samsung chargers? Easiest to use...win one. And you get a samsung for how much compared to apple? With better options, root, etc.
this isnt a loss....its an opening for real things and development for better things even more than apple with restrictions...and so on!
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This is far from a loss, Is apple the Antichrist? yes. is Samsung guilty? Hell ya
Samsung did copy Apple and because they were to lazy and careless, they got caught. Period. Yes, innovation is often achieved on improving and evolving a product of a rival company, but you just have to be a lot more slick about it. They had emails of them admitting it.
Now Samsung will be forced to innovate even harder and this will make our Galaxy 4's even more impressive.
And Android should be safe now the Google got the Motorola patents. They should be able to force Apple into some sort of an agreement, now the Steve Jobs has passed away.
I really hope android platform and look isn't affected by this verdict.
Phuck Apple
Hopefully this won't affect the sales of the S3. My upgrade isn't until Sept 1st and I really want the S3. I hate apple so much. You should see some of the posts I wrote about them on other forums. And if I were Samsung, I would quit making Apple's screens and components for some of their devices..
I dont see it affecting the sale of s3, nexus i thought was supposed to be pulled of shelves..havent seen that yet!
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because...
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I dont see it affecting the sale of s3, nexus i thought was supposed to be pulled of shelves..havent seen that yet!
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Remember that lovely little update that crippled your search bar in LF9? Our s3 isn't the only phone that got it. They changed the software in the gnex like ours to pull the "infringing" sh*t
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And Android should be safe now the Google got the Motorola patents. They should be able to force Apple into some sort of an agreement, now the Steve Jobs has passed away.
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And for the record, nobody "passed away". God smited steve jobs from the earth for being a scum piece of sh*t
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390&repost=1
Anyone find it hilarous that the original Epic, the one that is most different from the iphones and has a freaking keyboard..., suffered the 2nd most in terms of fines? Also, it's kinda cute that the jurors decided to ignore the concept of prior art to "save time".
Well...To be honest ...this may very well go super nova..or even viral. Meaning this case will see the doors of the u.s. supreme court. Where we all know apple will not stand a chance with such a petty sue. Stay strong Samsung!
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Apple vs Samsung

What do you think about the verdict?
424aca said:
What do you think about the verdict?
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I hate to say it, but what does this have to do with the Ion?
shot down..and nothing XD
Wrong section at the very least. Q&A I think not.
Hate to say but it affects more than Samsung guys Sony is an android partner too the consequences of this verdict I fear may have a wide reaching effect on a lot of major and minor players.
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Well the defence tactic of 'yeah we copied them but they copied someone else!' Isn't the best....
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thanitos said:
Well the defence tactic of 'yeah we copied them but they copied someone else!' Isn't the best....
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That defense worked for Microsoft when Apple tried to sue them over the icon interface. Microsoft claimed the icon interface came from Xerox. Apple eventually dropped the case.
Also, this is far from over. Samsung will definitely appeal. There are plenty of reasons for possibly winning under appeal.
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thanitos said:
Well the defence tactic of 'yeah we copied them but they copied someone else!' Isn't the best....
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True but bringing that to light will make the world and apple drones see Apple for what it is, a money grubber the steals tech and not a company that "thinks different" or even really innovates all that much.
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jeriku said:
True but bringing that to light will make the world and apple drones see Apple for what it is, a money grubber the steals tech and not a company that "thinks different" or even really innovates all that much.
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Money = power. Logic + truth= second place.
I think Ms beat apple because apple doesn't have the money Ms does but I have no clue or facts or background to support that. Just a thought
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Money = power. Logic + truth= second place.
I think Ms beat apple because apple doesn't have the money Ms does but I have no clue or facts or background to support that. Just a thought
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MS beats Apple because apple has always locked down their tech. It goes back to pc clones. First to saturate the market takes the prize, usually.
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Moved to General.
Microsoft beat Apple because Apple was basically told you cannot patent icons. This judgement is a joke and we can only hope it is overturned on appeal.
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Thank you.
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The main reason for Apple go againist Samsung is Samsung is an important supplier for making apple products especially iphone. If you check history of Samsung phones model, they never have similar model until iphone 3g started to rise of global sales. Samsung then release products like instinct. I worked for a Canadian carrier and I remember Samsung was pushing hard with the Instinct model and had trainings and incentive for sales. Its normal to see competitors being copy cat because its all about money. But samsung was doing it too much. Remeber the smart cover incident? Galaxy tab 10.1 was launched with the same design of Apple smart cover and it was the relatives of the Boss of Samsung who made it. They had to pull away this product line right away. If Apple is a person and that is you. And your buddy Samsung is part of the supplier of your products which you spend a lot of times and energy to design. And one day he created similar product lines and make money from it and dont admit he is copying. So what would you do?
Just my thought, im not a fan of Apple or Samsung. Don't care. Whoever makes cool products and feed my lifestyle, I will buy and use it.
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