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Lost S-off

Need to return my leedroid 2.2.2 to stock.
Somehow i have lost eng s-off. Tried to install different radio but it wouldnt allow me, as bootloader says ship s-off. So have been advised that i need to downgrade again, and go through the s-off / root process again - Here
How do i go back to the easy rooted 1.32 stock again. I have an RUU for that version, but its not seeing the phone. Found a workaround - Here - but it only got so far before the phone froze, and the installer said it couldnt find phone.
Thought for a minute i had bricked the phone, so after crapping myself, decided to seek help here on how to return to 1.32!

Look at the rooting tutorials for 1.72.
AFAIK, you need to change the version number for this to work (to allow downgrade).

Do you have ship s-off or you do not?

You can't flash a radio because you don't have eng s-off, therefore no fastboot commands.
Just flash any ruu you want using the pd98img.zip method and all shall be stock. Launching an ruu update from your pc is notoriously unreliable and I would never recommend it.
Here is a guide to the method if you have no idea whet I'm talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826465
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caddish12 said:
i downt know
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Thanks!
dr.m0x said:
You can't flash a radio because you don't have eng s-off, therefore no fastboot commands.
Just flash any ruu you want using the pd98img.zip method and all shall be stock. Launching an ruu update from your pc is notoriously unreliable and I would never recommend it.
Here is a guide to the method if you have no idea whet I'm talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826465
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Had tried to flash pd98img from my sd card but kept getting some error (cant remember what it was now, will check again later). So thought maybe needed to use the RUU to go back to a stock ROM, but was just guessing at that. Will have another go at PM98IMG when i get home from work.

You have Radio S-OFF, so you do not have to use the downgrade guide. Just flash 1.32.405.6 stock ROM using PD98IMG.zip (get that from the downgrade guide), and then you can use my Radio S-OFF tool to go S-ON. You can also check the S-ON instructions in my tool thread.

jkoljo said:
You have Radio S-OFF, so you do not have to use the downgrade guide. Just flash 1.32.405.6 stock ROM using PD98IMG.zip (get that from the downgrade guide), and then you can use my Radio S-OFF tool to go S-ON. You can also check the S-ON instructions in my tool thread.
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Thanks. I tried last night to do this (though i was going to go the full downgrade route) but couldnt get it to install. But i was selecting the zip from sd card, which i think is wrong? (hboot will pick the zip up itself?)
Can you briefly explain to me what S-ON is? Im a total noob here, and always thought we were looking S-OFF to flash Kernels, Radios etc.
I owe you a thanks. Already handed out 5 today and cant give any more!

jkoljo said:
You have Radio S-OFF, so you do not have to use the downgrade guide. Just flash 1.32.405.6 stock ROM using PD98IMG.zip (get that from the downgrade guide), and then you can use my Radio S-OFF tool to go S-ON. You can also check the S-ON instructions in my tool thread.
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hmm having problems. Have got back to stock ok. But when i try to run your tool i keep getting connection error. Have tried in XP and win 7, and from root of drive as some others have suggested worked for them. Any ideas?
EDIT: Think i have it sorted.

[Q] Can I flash?

After holding vol down + boot key I get this:
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.85.2007 (PD9810000)
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.04.02.05_M2
SYSTEM INFO:
OS Ver-1.39.161.1
In the phone's settings I found this:
Kernel 2.6.32.28-cyanogenmod
Android version 2.3.1
Mod version CM7-RC0-DHD-PNK14
Compilation number GRH78
I have visionary installed and a console emulator, I can su, so the device is rooted. But I want to do an S-OFF. I tried it and it told me that I'm running on an unsupported kernel. I believe that it's because of the cyanogen mod installed instead of a stock rom.
What can I do in order to be able to do a S-OFF? What should I flash? How? Where do I get it?
Regards

alexandernst said:
What can I do in order to be able to do a S-OFF?
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Someone else may be able to correct me, but in the fist line, your phone already told you that it is S-OFF, hence why it is not letting you do this again, probably not down to the kernel you are running.
alexandernst said:
What should I flash? How? Where do I get it?
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What do you want to flash? A new radio? a different rom? Did you want to upgrade your version of cyanogenmod to the latest version. Download link and instructions for installing Cyanogenmod 7.0.0 RC4
Desire HD Radio thread on XDA-Developers
Hope this is of some use.

It is actually down to the kernel, please read the tool's requirements.. But that being said, you already have at least ENG S-OFF. You can check radio S-OFF in bootloader's system info, if the CID is 11111111, you have it.
To get radio S-OFF, flash Raidroid stockify series ROM and then run the tool again. You also have to get older radio, read the requirements...
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

I checked my CID and it says VODAP304, so it's a branded device.
I searched the forums for Radroid stockify ROM and I found this thread, but the info says "These ROMs are simply debranded and rooted stock roms...".
Can I flash a debranded ROM on a branded device? Also, there are no requirements in that thread, so I'm noot really sure what radio should I get. In fact, there are a few ROMs and I don't know which one is the correct for my phone.
One last thing, I made a goldcard, because I red that that's a requirement in order to flash ROMs to a branded device. Am I right?
Regards

Hi, as you have ENG S-OFF and clockworkmod, the branded CID does not affect anything. Raidroid does not have requirements. Every DHD ROM is compatible with every DHD device.
If you want to use my radio S-OFF tool, get the radio I recommend in my tool's thread.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

I found a quick guide here and a detailed guide here about how to flash a radio. But they both say that my device must be radio s-off and eng s-off, and my device is only eng s-off, right? (I'm not sure about that, so please correct me if I'm wrong).
So, in order to flash a radio I need to do a radio s-off, but I'm not able because of the kernel that I'm using.
What should I do? Is it safe to flash a Raidroid stockift ROM, then flash the radio that you recommend in the radio s-off thread, and then do the radio s-off?
f that's not the way, could you tell me what to do first?
Regards

Yep, do it like this:
Download & flash Raidroid 1.32.405.6
Flash older radio, do not care about radio s-off
Get radio S-OFF using my tool
Flash any radio & ROM you like

I'm flashing the ROM right now. Should I do a full wipe? (I'm looking this guide)

It is always good to do that.

Great! I have been doing this all day, and I finally made it!
Now I'm planing to install the Android Revolution HD 4 ROM, so I'll make a full wipe again, but what if next month there is a 4.0.1? Should I do another full wipe?
Anyways, that is just a small question, as everything else went perfect. Thank you so much for you support!
Regards

Well it depends, it is always good to do a full wipe.. Mike will give instructions about that when the time comes. Full wipe is not always necessary.
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[Q] radio S-OFF?

hey,
Today i finally desided to perm root my DHD using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160 everything went fine and it all seems to work, i desided to install rom manager and flashed clockworkmod recovery. (clockwork also works fine and I have made a backup of my stock rom)
now i want to install this rom Android revolution HD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984045and i need radio S-OFF and HTC desire HD S-OFF.
when i go into bootloader the top line say's ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF does this mean I am good to go?
and can I go back from android revolution HD to the official rom with nandroid since it is version 2.16.0.0?
thanks in advance

kevd22 said:
hey,
Today i finally desided to perm root my DHD using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160 everything went fine and it all seems to work, i desided to install rom manager and flashed clockworkmod recovery. (clockwork also works fine and I have made a backup of my stock rom)
now i want to install this rom Android revolution HD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984045and i need radio S-OFF and HTC desire HD S-OFF.
when i go into bootloader the top line say's ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF does this mean I am good to go?
and can I go back from android revolution HD to the official rom with nandroid since it is version 2.16.0.0?
thanks in advance
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YOU ARE Doing these well, if you flash ARev.HD later you can go back flashing an stok rom take this link for choose your OFFICIAL RUU...
http://xdafil.es/index.php?path=DesireHD/RUU/
but i think that if you taste a cooked rom you are not going back to RUU OFFICIAL ROM hahahah
CERTAINLY.. have you made HBOOT S OFF ENG-SPL????(its fully reversible flashing an stok rom) and It makes possible to recover the system of a bad flash recovery...
sorry for my bad english

What I think SERGI.3210 is trying to say, is that you need ENG HBoot or ENG S-OFF before you can flash radios.
Here are the threads you should read,
ENG S-OFF
RADIO S-OFF

I did not flash (well, I dont think I did) hboot and i don't now how to do this either the tekst in bootloader says this:
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.0007
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
How do I make HBOOT S OFF ENG-SPL and is their a way to check if I already have it?
And what does this do?

andyharney said:
What I think SERGI.3210 is trying to say, is that you need ENG HBoot or ENG S-OFF before you can flash radios.
Here are the threads you should read,
ENG S-OFF
RADIO S-OFF
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uups!!! thanks andyharney! i forgot to put that you need ENG S-OFF to flash radios!!
certainly... take this XDA´S LINK for go back to OFICIAL RUU:
http://xdafil.es/index.php?path=DesireHD/RUU/

Use the ENG S-OFF tool in the first link to get ENG S-OFF. Without this you cannot flash radio.img's via fastboot.
Once you have ENG S-OFF use the other link to get Radio S-OFF. The tools are very easy to use and 99.9999999999999999% safe.

I took another look at the article i used to root and it said this:
you will have permanent root (S-OFF), as well as subsidy unlock and SuperCID. At this point, you can also choose to flash the engineering hboot
If you don't want the engineering hboot, just reboot your phone. You can verify you have permanent root by holding volume down while powering on (you'll see S-OFF in the first line of the bootloader). You are now free to install a new recovery and start flashing custom ROMs. If you don't want to flash a new ROM, it's safe to uninstall the Visionary app at this point.
Does this mean i already have radio S-OFF?

[Q] Flashin ROM and Radio

Hi everyone.
I'm going to flash the latest Android Revolution Rom. I've done it before, so i should be fine, but i have some questions :
- I'm a bit confused with ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF. How can i know whith certainty if my phone is ENG S-OFF/Radio S-OFF ?
-I'm flashing the radio which is recommended with the Android Revolution Rom. Should i flash the Radio before the rom or after ?
Thanks.

With only radio off, it would say ship-off in your bootloader. This means you still needa eng-off.
With eng off, it would say eng-off but you still needa check radio. Check sys info if your CID has only ones in them rather than HTC something.
If you have both eng-off and massive 1s in CID, your fine
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

do you need eng s-off to flash a rom? is radio s-off enough?

@kaidjin
Doesn't matter when you flash the radio
maatsby said:
do you need eng s-off to flash a rom? is radio s-off enough?
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Radio s-off is enough for roms. Its also enough to flash radios aswell, though its different method than what's promoted in the dhd section.
Over in the Inspire section we flash them by using pd98img zips and flashing through hboot. I think its easier as I can download a radio on the go and test it out straight from my phone. But to each their own
No Hay de Queso No Mas de Papa

So in my bootloader, it says ENG S-OFF. However, the CID is HTC_203 so i suppose i don't have Radio S-OFF. But isn't it mandatory to flash new Rom/Radio ?
The one-click Radio S-OFF doesn't work with me. I have the "unknown error, probably connection". Should i flash back the stock rom before attempting to radio S-OFF ?

marsdta said:
Radio s-off is enough for roms. Its also enough to flash radios aswell, though its different method than what's promoted in the dhd section
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cheers thanks for clearing that up. i'm very new to this and eng s-off has too many warnings attached to it for me to attempt it at the moment

But still, should we flash the radio before flashing the rom or after?

reneftw said:
But still, should we flash the radio before flashing the rom or after?
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Hi reneftw,
It does not matter. Every ROM runs with most (or all) of the radios. If you already have the recommend radio, there is no need to flash it at all.
I have flashed the recommend radio after my first custom ROM.

I do not have the recommended radio, but my Phone works very good. Is it necessarily to flash the right version of the radio?

Kaidjin said:
So in my bootloader, it says ENG S-OFF. However, the CID is HTC_203 so i suppose i don't have Radio S-OFF. But isn't it mandatory to flash new Rom/Radio ?
The one-click Radio S-OFF doesn't work with me. I have the "unknown error, probably connection". Should i flash back the stock rom before attempting to radio S-OFF ?
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Hi Kaidjin,
it is recommend to flash the Radio S-OFF, because it is more permanent. If you flash a locked bootloader (by mistake or by auto update or whatever), you still have the SuperCID from the Radio S-OFF.
Try another USB port, cable and PC. Try newest HTC sync. Do u have USB debugging enabled?
Do you accept the SU Request during the flash of Radio S-OFF? If your screen timeout is too short, maybe you dont see this request.
I recommend to always flash Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF (in this order, but it works the other way too).

reneftw said:
I do not have the recommended radio, but my Phone works very good. Is it necessarily to flash the right version of the radio?
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If your phone works fine, it is not necessary. If you have issues with battery drain, signal strength, GPS or WiFi, try the recommend.

None of the above. Thanx for the help.

General consensus is latest radio does help with battery life and reception. I suppose if your have no issue with them then it's fine. But I am sure everyone loves improved battery life.
And yes it is recommended to have both radio and eng off before you flash radio.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

Kaidjin said:
The one-click Radio S-OFF doesn't work with me. I have the "unknown error, probably connection". Should i flash back the stock rom before attempting to radio S-OFF ?
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I once was in your positions and yes, I had to recover the 1.32 sense rom to get it work, then recovered again to the existing rom.
But a friend of mine had no problem with CyanogenMod 7.1 RC1, which I was also using, though.

How to S-off after HTCDev Unlock?

Hi everyone,
I want to S-off my device again, so I don't need to reflash the Boot.img of every custom rom over and over again.
I've tried to flash my device with the DHD Stock 1.32 Rom to use jkoljo's method for S-off'ing my device.
So I put the PD98IMG.zip on my SDcard and let the HBoot flash it. After the reboot I got stuck at HTC Logo and this happens too after flashing PD98IMG.zip's boot.img
So is there another way to S-off my device while I'm HTCDevUnlocked or is it game over for S-off?
I've googled for some time on the net, but I couldn't find a DHD specific result.
Thanks in advance!

****head said:
Hi everyone,
I want to S-off my device again, so I don't need to reflash the Boot.img of every custom rom over and over again.
I've tried to flash my device with the DHD Stock 1.32 Rom to use jkoljo's method for S-off'ing my device.
So I put the PD98IMG.zip on my SDcard and let the HBoot flash it. After the reboot I got stuck at HTC Logo and this happens too after flashing PD98IMG.zip's boot.img
So is there another way to S-off my device while I'm HTCDevUnlocked or is it game over for S-off?
I've googled for some time on the net, but I couldn't find a DHD specific result.
Thanks in advance!
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No need to google around lol when you have xda forums
Try this tool here

shad0wboss said:
No need to google around lol when you have xda forums
Try this tool here
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Thanks, will try it when I got the time
I guess, I need to be on an original rom or a Sense-rom
Do you know how I can flash an original rom from HTC itself? I thought it was like putting P98IMG.zip on the sd and let HBoot find it and flash it.
But after that I got stuck at HTC-logo, and flashing the boot.img doesn't work neither :s
I really don't know how to flash DHD's Froyo rom after (HTCDev) unlocking my device

Run the RUU of the OS you were last on, so if you were on WWE 2.50 run that RUU, or if you were on 3.12 Sense 3.0 then run that, relock the bootloader, and run attn1's Ace Hack Kit, it will automatically do the downgrade for you so you get S-OFF.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
Run the RUU of the OS you were last on, so if you were on WWE 2.50 run that RUU, or if you were on 3.12 Sense 3.0 then run that, relock the bootloader, and run attn1's Ace Hack Kit, it will automatically do the downgrade for you so you get S-OFF.
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So I need to relock it before I can run that RUU?
Ok, I will try it when I have the time to do it.
Thanks everyone!