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[Q] S-off questions

I have been planning to s-off my desire for weeks now, i have some questions just in case i dont brick my phone.
1. i am using coolsense hd v10 rom, is it ok to s-off? or do i need the stock rom
2. if i nid the stock rom, can i just flash the ruu and root again, then s-off
3. can i s-off using alpharev via vmware
4. how to prevent alpharev from changing my splash screen
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.09.05.30.2
AUG 10 2010,17:52:10

Are you serious?

what u mean

It doesn't matter, which rom you are using. I used the CD-method to S-Off my Desire, but I think it should also work using vmware.
You can't prevent alpharev from changing your splash screen, but there are tools in this forum, which allow you to change it to whatever you want afterwards.
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You can change the splash screen with Android Flasher - It can be found in the Developement sub-forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638
If you need a stock ROM, then you can either flash the RUU (You lose Root, S-Off) or flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (can be found in the Developement sub-forum).
S-Off via VMWare can be done, but if you are stuck use the USB or CD method instead (people reported issues with VMWare).

dont try to do S-OFF unless you are running stock rooted ROM
best is to run a RUU, then root, then go s-off
if you try to S-OFF while on a2sd+ or data2xxx rom, procedure will fail, and it might brick your phone (it fails after going past STEP3 - DONT UNPLUG YOUR P_HONE OR U WILL BRICK IT) but i unplugged it, and was ok, then RUU and again whole thing worked

I had problems with s-off on my stock sense rom (rooted).
I made a goldcard, rooted, then alpharev would not recognise my device.
Soon as I switched to rooted aosp rom (oxygen) it was fine!

dzumagos said:
dont try to do S-OFF unless you are running stock rooted ROM
best is to run a RUU, then root, then go s-off
if you try to S-OFF while on a2sd+ or data2xxx rom, procedure will fail, and it might brick your phone (it fails after going past STEP3 - DONT UNPLUG YOUR P_HONE OR U WILL BRICK IT) but i unplugged it, and was ok, then RUU and again whole thing worked
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Just flash stock rooted froyo, done the trick for me.
OP, just search for how to s-off, there are answers to all you questions available. I know that, as i only recently s-offed myself.

So, can i do this?
1. do nandroid backup
2. use froyo asia wwe ruu(im from singapore)
3. root with unrevoked
4. s-off with vmware
5. restore
But err, one question, if i was damn unlucky and brick my device, can i just use the RUU and restore it back?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069600
Just follow the guide on the thread. If you brick your device, there is no way back. That's why its called brick. There are semi bricks, which can be fixed.
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hi my HTC Desire says PVT1 S-OFF already
this make any difference between AlphaRev S-off?? or i need to go through this method also??

Just install a rom without A2SD (like Leedroid 2.4.1 no-A2SD or Teppic's rom) and then you can S-OFF your desire. I advice you to write the .img on a cd and then boot on this, you won't encounter any issue.
Afterwards you can apply a new splash on your Desire, like the stock one (which is available on alpharev website).

Maikoru said:
Just install a rom without A2SD (like Leedroid 2.4.1 no-A2SD or Teppic's rom) and then you can S-OFF your desire. I advice you to write the .img on a cd and then boot on this, you won't encounter any issue.
Afterwards you can apply a new splash on your Desire, like the stock one (which is available on alpharev website).
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Actully i m asking my Desire shows S-off already and its unrooted, does i have to do S-off in future for all that Splash screen etc stuff...
plz also tell me i want to install Sense 3.0 type Rom which is fully working plz suggest any...

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2020shyboy said:
Actully i m asking my Desire shows S-off already and its unrooted, does i have to do S-off in future for all that Splash screen etc stuff...
plz also tell me i want to install Sense 3.0 type Rom which is fully working plz suggest any...
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Unrooting

Hi!
My phone broke and now I want to try to get it fixed with warranty. I'm not sure if warranty still is available if I use root so I want to unroot.
I have read that all I need to do is flash the RUU, but which one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824357
And what will flashing it do? Will it remove CWM and everything else I was using to root? I remember that I flashed radio 2 times, had S-OFF and E-ON.
And then I will simply run System Update? Because it seems that RUU are firmwares that phones are shipped with.

yea, just flash a RUU.
Make sure you install the original RUU for the type of your DHD (i.e. WWE, Voda,T-Mobile...)
and if your phone is S-OFF, make it S-ON - S-OFF / S-ON GUIDE (guide for S-ON is at the end of the 1st post). Go into bootloader and make sure you have S-ON
--your recovery will be restored to original HTC recovery

Oh, but which RUU I need to flash? I remember I needed to do a downgrade and I think it was 1.72.405.3, not the R2, but I'm not sure.

Well, when you had your phone, was it branded?
if so, you need to find a brand-specific RUU.
If not, then WWE RUU is fine.
i would suggest the 1.32 FW (because S-ON requires temproot from Visionary+), then follow the guide to S-ON

What about radio? I have flashed the leaked gingerbread radio, wouldn't they be able to see that I have flashed a newer radio? Or the RUU flashes radio also?

RUU flashes radio too. But after flashing the RUU have a look into the bootloader, the device might still be S-Off. For S-On you need to root again and Use the easy radio tool to make S-On again. Then use the RUU again.

It still was S-OFF, but used Visionary and Easy Radio Tool to get S-ON. A brand new phone
Thanks!

Does it work the RUU to flash even if I come from an ext4 ROM (ARHD 5.1.9)?
Or do I need to format first by cwm 3.0.2.6 so that it is ext3 again?

No one any advice?

Questions about SHIP S-OFF and ENG S-OFF

My desire z is only Ship S-Off. i.e. I only did
"4.b. S-OFF, Super-CID, SIM-unlock, clockwork recovery and root" on Wiki.
I noticed that in the HTC Vision Wiki, ENG S-OFF is recommended over SHIP S-off:
Quoted: "From now on we recommend to install the engineering hboot as part of the gfree procedure."
Are there any reasons behind?
Would it be possible for me to install the engineering hboot after I have done SHIP-OFF using instruction 4.b.?
One more question:
Is ENG S-OFF safer than SHIP S-OFF? I found there is no way to flash Recovery without booting to Android if I am only SHIP S-OFF, both fastboot and HBOOT methods are not working for me. So if Recovery crashed and SHIP S-OFF, is my phone bricked and no way to be rescued?
Thank you.

A good guide to read
http://www.virtuousrom.com/2011/06/t-mobile-g2-users-migrating-to-desirez.html

Can I use gfree to flash by command:
./gfree -b hboot-eng.img
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One more question:
I found "recovery-clockwork-3.0.2.4-vision.zip" in CWM download directory, could I rename it to PC10IMG.zip and flash it via HBOOT?

Follow the instructions exactly and you cant go wrong

human-being said:
My desire z is only Ship S-Off. i.e. I only did
"4.b. S-OFF, Super-CID, SIM-unlock, clockwork recovery and root" on Wiki.
I noticed that in the HTC Vision Wiki, ENG S-OFF is recommended over SHIP S-off:
Quoted: "From now on we recommend to install the engineering hboot as part of the gfree procedure."
Are there any reasons behind?
Would it be possible for me to install the engineering hboot after I have done SHIP-OFF using instruction 4.b.?
One more question:
Is ENG S-OFF safer than SHIP S-OFF? I found there is no way to flash Recovery without booting to Android if I am only SHIP S-OFF, both fastboot and HBOOT methods are not working for me. So if Recovery crashed and SHIP S-OFF, is my phone bricked and no way to be rescued?
Thank you.
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You do need Engineering Hboot in order to use fastboot to flash your recovery image. And yes, this does allow you another option in the event your phone is unbootable - which I find reassuring. So on the one hand it is a precautionary tool, but it also stops checking if the PC10IMG.zip is for your specific device. So you need to be extra careful when using PC10IMG files.
I flashed ENG Hboot after I had rooted/S-OFF/etcetera... but the root method I used also included a script for ENG Hboot that I was able to follow after the fact. As others have said, I would simply follow the wiki and get yourself set up.

So if I didn't flash any HBOOT, the hboot in my DZ is DZHBOOT, am I correct?
Can I safely flash Virtuous Unity and BeatMod BlissSense?
For the ENG HBOOT in wiki:
HTC Desire Z: vision.hboot-0.84.2000.zip (md5sum 2CE1BDD5E4C1119CCFCECB938710D742)
Is this a DZHBOOT as well?
How to distinguish between a G2HBOOT and DZHOOT?
Sorry for having loads of questions. I did google but couldn't find exactly what I want.

human-being said:
So if I didn't flash any HBOOT, the hboot in my DZ is DZHBOOT, am I correct?
Can I safely flash Virtuous Unity and BeatMod BlissSense?
For the ENG HBOOT in wiki:
HTC Desire Z: vision.hboot-0.84.2000.zip (md5sum 2CE1BDD5E4C1119CCFCECB938710D742)
Is this a DZHBOOT as well?
How to distinguish between a G2HBOOT and DZHOOT?
Sorry for having loads of questions. I did google but couldn't find exactly what I want.
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If you boot into bootloader you will see at the top which hboot version you have, and as the wiki says thats the version you want if you want the engineering hboot, the link i sent you explains why, flash it and thats you fully rooted and ready to run unity
Sent from a htc desire z

bombadier said:
If you boot into bootloader you will see at the top which hboot version you have, and as the wiki says thats the version you want if you want the engineering hboot, the link i sent you explains why, flash it and thats you fully rooted and ready to run unity
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Thanks!
Actually I tried looking for the version through booting into bootloader before. I got the version number only.
It says HBOOT 0.85.0005, and I have no idea what it means.

Thats the version number, the engineering hboot is version 0.84.2000 so you need to flash it, then you have the engineering hboot installed
Sent from a htc desire z

[Q]restore S-on when not rooted

i have been having problems with my phone and tried updating it to the GB RUU. It still had problems so i sent in for a new one and i came in the mail today. The problem is that it is still S-off and i was wondering if it could be madse S-on while not rooted and if not is there a way to root it since it is S-off

To get s-on you would need a custom recovery installed and the stock froyo radio 2.15.00.07.28 then flash the s-on patch on the unrevoked site. Since your s-off all you need to do is flash clockwork recovery thru hboot as a PB31IMG.zip. Then flash the stock froyo radio also as a PB31IMG.zip. Then flash the s-on patch thru recovery. After that just run an ruu and your phone will be complete stock again. You can find all the files you need here http://pvillecomp.com/, except the s-on patch wich you can get on the unrevoked forever site here http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever .

Do I need s-off to flash roms?

I just unlocked my cousins evo 4g. I was wondering if I need s-off to flash Roms. If so. Can someone give me a link to a tutorial .

Well, you need Clockworkmod but you can't install clockworkmod without S-off, my Evo actually has S-on with clockworkmod and I can install roms no problem I don't even know how S turned back on but it did lol... It's really easy to google and find a guide on rooting/turning s-off but regardless here ya go, it's a list of a ton of guides for the Evo and rooting involves turning s-off.
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/491123-evo-4g-all-things-root-guide.html

I did install clockworkmod while on s-on

iTzLOLtrain said:
I just unlocked my cousins evo 4g. I was wondering if I need s-off to flash Roms. If so. Can someone give me a link to a tutorial .
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If you are like me, and would rather visually see it happen, go check out the beloved YouTube. There are lots of videos of people showing you exactly how to do it, step by step.
Hit thanks if I turned you in the right direction!
Good Luck!

Unrevoked rev works well to root it if you didn't take the latest OTA Clockwork mod 4.0 works well for it afterwards to flash and wipe.

If you are s-on (OOW unlocked) on hboot 2.18 u can used fastboot to flash a recovery, you should be using Amon RA on the evo and not cwm or twrp. If you are on hboot 2.15/.16 you need to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and gain recovery and the flash SU and SU binaries. Any hboot prior to 2.16 you use unrevoked or one of its variants to get s-off. If you're hboot 2.18 s-on locked you use htcdev.com to unlock the bootloader from there you can use fastboot to flash recovery or you can follow captain throwbacks guide to downgrade your hboot to an earlier version and achieve s-off. With s-on unlocked you can do (almost) anything you can do with s-off except you won't be able to flash PC36IMG.zip files, which include recoveries, radio updates, splashscreens, and RUU files.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
If you are s-on (OOW unlocked) on hboot 2.18 u can used fastboot to flash a recovery, you should be using Amon RA on the evo and not cwm or twrp. If you are on hboot 2.15/.16 you need to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and gain recovery and the flash SU and SU binaries. Any hboot prior to 2.16 you use unrevoked or one of its variants to get s-off. If you're hboot 2.18 s-on locked you use htcdev.com to unlock the bootloader from there you can use fastboot to flash recovery or you can follow captain throwbacks guide to downgrade your hboot to an earlier version and achieve s-off. With s-on unlocked you can do (almost) anything you can do with s-off except you won't be able to flash PC36IMG.zip files, which include recoveries, radio updates, splashscreens, and RUU files.
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Hey -EViL-KoNCEPTz-
You got me kinda confused now. I thought the new CWM got the problems fixed with clearing the cache? If not, then is the Amon RA safe to use, it hasn't been updated in for ever. If you still recommend Amon RA, how do I change to that?
Also, I still have s-on.
Mine says:
*** UNLOCKED***
Supersonic EVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-2.18.0001
How do I get it to S-OFF or do I need to?
I've been flashing back and forth to different Roms for a few days now. I'm still trying to find the one I like where everything works.

I'm in the same boat as custm2007 except it's on my friends phone. What would be the best way to get s-off after rooting it or do I even need to? I'll be doing everything for him so he won't be flashing much at all.

Do this
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...-18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-

To actually answer the question... No you do not need to be s-off to flash rom's. Once unlocked you can flash a recovery through fastboot and flash rom's to your hearts content. This is currently how my phone is, and I have no complaints. Please see my blog for a tutorial for flashing recovery and su binaries.
imheroldtech.blogspot.com
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http://theunlockr.com/2011/08/02/ho...android-phone-using-the-revolutionary-method/
This was how i did it way back when. It was the easiest method for me.