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-CarComp
EDIT POST ON 5-5-2010
INSTRUCTIONS ARE IN BOLD!!!!!!!
EDITS AND MY OPINIONS ARE IN ITALICS
Want google and not winmo but can't wade through all of the confusion offered up by the supergeeks of android linux? Well just do these steps. It took me an evening to figure out these steps, and could whip it up instantly now.
BTW - it REALLY helps to have a computer with an SDcard slot adapter that handles the micro-sd cards. I don't really recommend trying all this with a USB cable, b/c once you get to linux only, you will kinda be screwed cause it doesn't quite work the same like windows CE. Also that and you can't format through the phone, so just get an adapter ok? Stop right here if you don't have one and just order one or go to walmart and spend 10 bucks and get one. BTW, your micro sd card should have come with one when you bought it, so go look for it.
Ok how to get the super Eclair android into NAND and live a happy life....
1, CHARGE YOUR PHONE UP ALL THE WAY BEFORE ANYTHING. When done charging, unplug whatever is in your USB port for the rest of this procedure. Having phone plugged in while flashing = BAD
2, get hard spl on your phone.
3, Install Hyperdragon IOlite on your phone to get the radio(1.65.24.36) that I recommend, which will improve battery life and possibly other things that I don't know about. Get it here -> http://sakajati.com/blogs/2009/02/hyperdragon-iv-iolite-based-on-htc-iolite/
4, format your 1+ GB sdcard using fat32 only.
5, download polyrhythmics dark / light build for nand and sdcard.
put that SINGLE FILE (androidinstall.tgz) into a folder in the root of the SD-CARD called "andboot" - Get it here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
6, go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ and download KAISIMG-PANEL2-320-TILT.NBH if you have an ATT tilt. If you have something else, download that NBH.
7, Rename that NBH file to "KAISimg.nbh". Put it in the root of your storage card.
8. Now you are ready to install to nand. Get out your stylus, hold down the camera and power button and press the reset button with the stylus. It should go to an updating screen. If you don't get a white screen with a progress bar, but instead it still shows tri color and says "serial" then you did something wrong. Start over from step 1. Once you get to 100%, wait 20 seconds or something (just for shihtz and giggles) and then pull out the battery.
9. Now, put it back in, press power and wait for android to start booting. You will know cause all this random looking text will go by. You have to be quick to do it, but press the middle button on the d-pad when it says 'press the middle button to enter setup' or soemthing like that. (EDIT: I've been told that you have to just hold the d-pad center button down. Either way, just get that button pushed when it says to push it).
You will be presented with some options. Make sure the little asterisk is on the "NAND" option.
10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.
Crap your pants at the speed NAND offers. Install some live desktops (I like the starfield warp drive one from the google market.)
BTW: If you mess up your phone doing this, blah blah its not my fault blah blah you probably shouldn't be on these forums etc. Just make sure you have HardSPL and you will be fine. I've flashed hundreds of roms hundreds of times. Just that one little step will make your life easier.
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RADIO DETAILS:
I've heard a LOT about using the latest radio or whatever version 1.71 or soemthing. I run radio 1.65 just fine. I never upgraded it through out all of the android builds. I operate like this.. If you weren't having cell quality issues, GPS lock issues, or any other radio issues in WINMO, then android will be fine too. I've added a step to the process to install a specific winMO rom that has the radio that I use. If you don't like the fact that I'm telling people to use an older radio, so be it. I'm just spreading the word for what works REALLY well for me.
EDIT: (My thoughts on the panel 1 2 3 and the 320 or 428 or whatever...) Picking the right panel is like playing the 'cups and ball' game. if you know which one the ball is under, you will win. Well for you TILT users, the ball is under #2. I don't know why, but it is. If 2 doesn't work, use 1. Doesn't get simpler than that. As for the resolutions, just use the 320. Ya, some apps fit better on the higher res, but our screens don't support them really well, and its all blurry. Think of it like this..... using 4xx instead of 320 is like asking 3 pixels to display as 1, vs. one pixel displaying as one pixel very clearly. Polyrhymic has done a great job supporting our screen's native 320 size, so just use it.
EDIT: (An issue i've noticed with booting and having your phone plugged in). Android just won't do it on nand. You can charge your phone from a dead point for say 20 mins, unplug it, then turn it on, boot android then plug it back in. You can't plug it in, and turn it on. It gets stuck in some sort of USB status loop.
EDIT: (When your phone just sits there on the A N D R O I D text and won't boot). Seems like this has been happening a lot, for me too. I've found there are two ways to stop this, one is preventative... Don't let your phone go totally dead. The second, when you reboot your phone, press and hold dpad center, then just count to 10 and go to the QUIT option. 9 times out of 10 it will boot right up.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, JUST REPEAT THE PROCESS.. Don't skip the full charge and installation of Hyperdragon first.
for may people on here, the fear of flashing isn't the problem. it's the missing features such as bluetooth, speakerphone and in some builds even camera.
I would LOVE to go nand. I hate not knowing if the problem is with the build or with the sucky sdcard.
but I need to revert back to winmo for bluetooth headset. once that or speakerphone works I am ON IT.
Nice, couldn't have said it better myself, a few small points, press and HOLD the centre button on Dpad, a quick press will not do it, I'd mention the radio version too, but those are not major issues, and can be sorted easily enough
Good advice about the card reader and adaptor, those two saved my ass a few times in the early days of Nand flashing, I keep a good stock winmo kaisimg.nbh on a spare SD card, you only need a 128Mb one for a stock rom.
Yes there are install instructions on the build posts, but a lot of the info is now spread though some 2000+ posts, so having it all in easy terms helps a load.
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
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It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
Disturbed21 said:
It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
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agreed, currently no gps working map that can be rely such as garmin that can work on winmo.. 1 disadvantage of android.. need to be online to get route..
Kurt Cobain said:
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
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320-428-480 là chỉ độ phân giải đó bạn.
320 is a resolution of 240X320 and the 480 is a resolution of 320X480
Mình biết được chừng đó thôi
Created another edit to the 1st post.
I'm not saying that android doesn't have its shortcomings, I'm just offering a quick means to get to NAND without trying to comprehend the whole thing in the traditional sense of reading 200 threads.
BTW my radio is 1.65.24.36
Maranevin, try flashing Hyperdragon IOlite first. Maybe a radio switch will prod your phone into the correct direction.
Errr, for newbs who don't know how to properly unlock their device isn't this dangerous? There IS a possibility of bricking your phone if you don't know what you're doing -- right?
Anyway, I would also mention that if you or your phone can't do 3G don't flash to NAND yet. The radio can't be instructed to use GSM only with the current poly build (and any other I have tried so far)
I totally agree with mnjm9b, the problem is not flash the phone, the problem is that there are many things that do not. In particular I am very happy with the performance of 2.1g polymod to date is the best I've worked.
carcomp thanks for the help, very good summary.
aikeru, if someone is flashing a phone, they probably know the risks. Its not my fault if they do something stupid. Is it autozone's fault if I buy specialty tools and ruin my engine changing a timing chain?
Anyways, I don't get the 3g thing. We have hardly any 2g or whatever is below 3g here in Mulberry Indiana and my android works fine.
Like I said, maybe i've found that magic mix of things that works really darn good.
BTW: major argument for using android.....
First of all, i'm not borg. I have yet to really get into bluetooth. I own two earpieces and the only good thing i've found is you can talk on the phone in freezing weather with you hands in your pockets. Bluetooth to mute car radios is cool, but I have a 20 year old car. I don't need bluetooth for file transfer cause i've got wifi, and SD CARD.
Second, as for the speakerphone, it never really was that loud anyways. I came from a hermes, which has a speaker like the voice of god, so i've never been impressed with the kaiser speakerphone.
Third, the camera... I have a nikon D60 with a speedlight for taking stills and lowlights, and a Kodak Z612 in my wife's purse most all the time for the past 3 years for video and spot shooting. All this data easily goes onto the micro sd card and into the phone.....
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10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.[/B]
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I've done all step above, just when i did this After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power. it started back to Step 9 when i had to 'press the middle button to enter setup'.
So, i skipped that step, and then later everytime i tried to press reset button, the phone is freeze, then i had to started over again...
In some cases, my OK button became to POWER button...
And at first time, WIFI was OK, then it showed Unable to start Wi-Fi
Any suggestion for my troubles?
Thank you!!
Great!!
Hi all, Great!! I am now running Android on my kaiser and I love it!!!
Just a couple of questions for people who can answer them:
- How to change phisycal keyboard layout? I mean, some keys that I have in blue aren't the same I have on my keyboard...
- Is there any means to connect to a pc to transfer contacts and files?
Thank you all!!
Gnatto
Maranevim said:
my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
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Same problem here. Someone please help. My device is now a worthless brick!!!!
Ok when this happens (its happened to me), first of all don't panick. If you've installed hardspl you are protected, and besides, just cause your phone won't boot android doesn't mean its bricked, it just means its not booting android.
There can be a multitude of things causing this, but the #1 reason I think is "Just because thats how it is"
First of all, don't boot your phone with it plugged in. Ever. Charge it first, then boot it, or charge it enough to make it through boot then plug it in when it reaches android.
Second, sometimes during boot, it just hangs where it says A N D R O I D, or some other text. You can get around this by resetting with stylus, then pressing the center dpad button, then just counting to 10 or 20 or some random number that makes you happy, then select quit. It should boot.
Thanks. Fortunately I unbricked it by putting the KAISDIAG.NBH file onto the SD card, then booted it. This unbricked it. I also put the the KAISIMG.NBH for the Android on here and it booted into the installer. My problem now is that when I click install to NAND, it says it has an error extracting from the SD card for the android installer. It then quits back to the main install screen. I think it is a permissions error since it says on the screen something about being read only. If anyone could help me, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Oh and btw, I never had usb plugged in since mine is broken.
Ok well you are on the right track. Before you do anything else though, flash a copy of windows Mobile. Either take your pick, or use hyperdragon. Its very complete ... radio / ext rom etc. Next, try reformatting your SD card using windows. Do a complete format, not a quick one. That might help. Now reflash using the link to kaisnbh that i posted.
Remember, installing windows mobile is your NAND reset. Its lot like an sdcard where you can just erase everything. You have to put something else there that is radically different. I may be wrong about this, but it seems to be the case more often than not.
You may be one of the special case people who have a weird phone that takes one of the other KAISimg.nbh files too, so don't discount that. Also since you have hardspl, and you are flashing from the sdcard, you phone is probably NOT going to brick, and even if it does screw up royally, if you can still get to tri color, you can fix it.
Ok. That's great to know. I'll try what you stated. Do I need to partition my SD card? Thanks again. I really appreciate the help.
A couple of months ago I broke my power button ,and managed to turn on the phone by abusing and slamming the power button to something hard,
Now ,I flashed the stock rom via odin ,rooted again ,and installed cwm .
Now ,phone accidentally turned off ,and went in a bootloop ,a quick one :show only samsung then turns off .
I can't manage to power it on in anyway .
I just want to backup the phone ,and then full wipe it.
I can't access download mode since phone is quickly rebooting!!
I need help ASAP ,Please..
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**Just to be clear, I am not responsible for anything that goes wrong with your device but actually, your phone is pretty much useless with this issue if it isn't fixed so lets just give it a shot like I did**
So I bet a couple of you guys may heard of this issue, I'll be giving the link on what this issue is about (if i can find the link).
Do note that this fix will result in damaging the exterior of your phone if you don't do this carefully. Lastly before we begin, you'll lose a power button completely and switching it on requires your phone Charger and a few button combinations
Now in order to fix this, you'll need
• A plus-tipped screwdriver
• A flat head screwdriver (bigger ones are prefered)
• Your "unusable" Galaxy W
• A whole lot of patience
1st step is easy, just disassemble your phone till you have removed the Main Board. There is a guide you can follow to do this on YouTube by the Channel L355ON5 if im not mistaken
2ndly, when you get to the main board, flip over your board such that the main camera module is faced down.
3rdly, you're gonna find your power switch. When you found it, you can see that it is made of 2 colours orange and white.
4th, heres the tricky part, use your flathead screwdriver and apply pressure and scrape off the white part of the switch COMPLETELY. Its okay if you damaged your power switch because you won't need it anyways.
To check if your phone is fixed, you can clip the Display's flex cable into the main board, and then use your battery and connect it to the 3 pin contacts. If your phone did not boot, thats good news because from Keith's post (if you can find it) we know that if you try to insert the battery in the phone, it will automatically switch on by itself and that means that you haven't fix the issue nor solve anything really.
So lets say everything went correctly as mentioned above, you can now screw the parts back together.
So to turn your phone ON, connect your Phone to youe wall plug and then quickly press the button combination keys for going to Recovery Mode upon switching on you your wall plug switch. You shld then be able to go to Recovery Mode and reboot your device
Now all of this may sound scary to you but I've done all of these steps and I got my Wonder back exactly a year after I broke it. :sly:
Galaxy W 8150 Disassembly & Assembly: http://youtu.be/ZjcucJDzfmk
How to Easily Fix Defective Power Switch/Button for the Galaxy S3: http://youtu.be/3Glllc7bEJs
These 2 videos are where you should be watching before trying in case gd luck
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This is my tutorial. I had this problem once and did this. I tried to understand what I was doing and finally got GWonder working and this is the only to do it if you lost your warranty.
Via the Internet
I have a Verizon Note 8 and i love it, but I am having a lot of instances where the device freezes and becomes unresponsive. I have had several instances where the phone freezes while on bluetooth, while playing a game (hearthstone), and also while just browsing the web. The phone freezes and I have to do a forced reset (hold volume down and power off) to get the phone to restart. I have factory reset the device once and I am still having this issue. Do I have a hardware issue? Anyone else have this problem? Coming from a Pixel XL where I was used to incomplete software this kind of surprises me from Samsung.
Thanks
I've heard of others, not seen myself
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We purchased 2 note 8s and my wifes would freeze and reset 2-3 times a day, i tried factory reset and not installing any apps and it would still happen. I exchanged it last thursday and so far it hasn't happened again so i would say its a hardware problem
Thanks for the feedback. I did a factory reset last night and hadn't loaded any apps to the phone. I've had 4 lock ups today. I guess I'll be calling Verizon and eating the cost of a screen protector.
only time I've experienced it was on Facebook
Same freezups with crappy verizon support
Me and my frirend both bought the note 8 the day they were put up for preorder. I've had some issues with lag at times when a lot of tabs are open in chrome but about 3 weeks ago mine also froze. Totally unresponsive and power button reset wouldnt work.
Didnt think much about it until she had the same issue today.
We took them into the store where we bought them and were greeted with some snotnosed kid trying to explain how all phones do this and how he builds pc's and has the same issues.
Not a help at all and he made it seem like i didnt know anything.
I told my friend to just keep a close eye on it and hope they have a patch to fix it. If we still have issues b4 the warranty we'll raise more of a stink. But that guy was an .ass
russdiddydog said:
Me and my frirend both bought the note 8 the day they were put up for preorder. I've had some issues with lag at times when a lot of tabs are open in chrome but about 3 weeks ago mine also froze. Totally unresponsive and power button reset wouldnt work.
Didnt think much about it until she had the same issue today.
We took them into the store where we bought them and were greeted with some snotnosed kid trying to explain how all phones do this and how he builds pc's and has the same issues.
Not a help at all and he made it seem like i didnt know anything.
I told my friend to just keep a close eye on it and hope they have a patch to fix it. If we still have issues b4 the warranty we'll raise more of a stink. But that guy was an .ass
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That answer from the Verizon rep is BS. Close all the chrome tabs. Turn phone off. Hold down Power, Vol Up & Bixby buttons. When it goes into recovery mode, use the volume keys to select the option BELOW the selection to reset the phone DONT RESET!). Once you've highlighted the one you want, press the power key to select that option. This will clear the Davlik cache. Use the volume keys to select the option to Yes, to clear the cache, then press the power button. Then the menu that appears next will have "reboot phone" as the first option. Press the power button to do that.
When the phone reboots, go into settings and look at storage. You should have at least 5GB free. If not, delete videos and other large files until you do. Buy a 256GB MicroSD card and put all photos/videos/music on that.
Go into settings again and go down to the OS build version. I think that's the right one. Tap on it bunch of times. Then you will now have a developer option on the phone. Go into animation settings under there and make all the window and menu animations 0. Your phone should now FLY like never before.
Enjoy!
- R. Kruse Ludington:
Galaxy Note 8
Turning the 3 animations off in the developer options seems to have fixed the issue with the device freezing.
I turned off: Window animation scale, transition animation scale, and animator duration scale and now my device is working very quickly without freezing. I have only been running this way for 20 hours or so so I will keep monitoring but I highly recommend others try this if they are experiencing freezing issues.
Also, if your device does become unresponsive, you can hold the power button and volume down button to force a restart.
KruseLudsMobile said:
That answer from the Verizon rep is BS. Close all the chrome tabs. Turn phone off. Hold down Power, Vol Up & Bixby buttons. When it goes into recovery mode, use the volume keys to select the option BELOW the selection to reset the phone DONT RESET!). Once you've highlighted the one you want, press the power key to select that option. This will clear the Davlik cache. Use the volume keys to select the option to Yes, to clear the cache, then press the power button. Then the menu that appears next will have "reboot phone" as the first option. Press the power button to do that.
When the phone reboots, go into settings and look at storage. You should have at least 5GB free. If not, delete videos and other large files until you do. Buy a 256GB MicroSD card and put all photos/videos/music on that.
Go into settings again and go down to the OS build version. I think that's the right one. Tap on it bunch of times. Then you will now have a developer option on the phone. Go into animation settings under there and make all the window and menu animations 0. Your phone should now FLY like never before.
Enjoy!
- R. Kruse Ludington:
Galaxy Note 8
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avengedfo7ld said:
Turning the 3 animations off in the developer options seems to have fixed the issue with the device freezing.
I turned off: Window animation scale, transition animation scale, and animator duration scale and now my device is working very quickly without freezing. I have only been running this way for 20 hours or so so I will keep monitoring but I highly recommend others try this if they are experiencing freezing issues.
Also, if your device does become unresponsive, you can hold the power button and volume down button to force a restart.
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I'd love to know how the phone is doing so far with the animations turned off. Was that the magic fix? Currently, I'm in a chat support with Samsung about my Note 8 freezing! It froze around 1am, so my alarm didn't go off!
I didn't know this was such a widespread issue! Thanks for the update!
I have had very few freezes since I have turned these animations off. I have since received an update for the phone and I am running freeze free. Hope you get your issue resolved..
Just since last week I have had my phone freeze up and restart itself...freeze up and I have had to restart it...and also just restart itself from sitting in my pocket, on the desk, on the table, etc. I have contacted Verizon and they are shipping me a replacement. I did a factory reset and it did not work. I also reset my cache and I'm still having the same issue. The phone is fully stock and has the December security patch installed as well. Maybe something will be figured out. I can definitely say it had not happened at all prior to the December patch, but I can't say for sure if the patch is the issue.
Samsung Note 8 STILL freezing
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I'd love to know how the phone is doing so far with the animations turned off. Was that the magic fix? Currently, I'm in a chat support with Samsung about my Note 8 freezing! It froze around 1am, so my alarm didn't go off!
I didn't know this was such a widespread issue! Thanks for the update!
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Oh my this is my MAIN gripe about my Note S8.... I sent it back pretty quick after I missed alarms many times due to freezing up in the night. Whether I was charging it, or not, and it always had plenty of battery either way. Had to hard reset. Even happens after surfing the web, or it just sitting around. Very frustrated. The first time I sent it back they changed out the LCD, didn't work, still kept freezing. The 2nd time Samsung supposedly changed out the motherboard, still kept freezing on me. 3rd time of sending it in they told me they still could not duplicate the issue and to just add apps back 1 at a time. OMG how time consuming. I have been asking from the get go for a replacement phone. Can't believe I spent $1000 on a phone and I have to troubleshoot it myself. I miss my previous Notes! I get it back today and am not looking forward to the disappointment of it freezing up again. How are you doing with your phone? Did anything help? Thank you
Just a quick note to say to anyone thinking of buying the Nut Pro to use in Europe: It definitely works in the UK. I am on the PlusNet (EE) network, living in the UK and the 'phone works very well. I am getting 4G (when available) and had no problems getting the phone to register on the network, just put the SIM in, switched on and was connected straight away.
Almost everything on the 'phone appears to work correctly. The weather app looks lovely but struggles to locate me (it thinks I'm in a city 60+ miles away) but I can live with that. Many of the apps I transferred from my old 'phone that were then installed from the Smartisan app store didn't work correctly so I ended up deleting them and re-installing them from the Google Play Store which was very easy to install. They then worked without problems. The Smartisan browser has a home page that is full of Chinese news and/or links to Chinese web pages, which I can't seem to change, although it works well in all other respects. I have a preference for Opera on my 'phone so I use this in preference to the Smartisan installed one meaning this isn't a problem anyway.
Everything else? It all works really. I haven't found anything that doesn't work properly that I can recall. The music player app forgets what it was playing after a Bluetooth device has been disconnected from it which means I have to open the music player to re-start the music, again not a huge issue anyway.
If you were thinking of buying the Nuts Pro I can't recommend it more. It is one of the most wonderful 'phones I've ever had. The modifications made to the Android OS make everything more beautiful to do and add so much style to the operation of the whole 'phone. This is a wonderful device, I absolutely love it. Don't let the fact that it isn't officially supported in Europe put you off. Assuming you can speak English (no other European languages are installed) you should have no problems, network support not withstanding.
What's the camera quality like... I've heard good things about it. Is it rooted?
Sorry, as you probably can tell, I don't visit often enough to respond to questions in a timely fashion.
Regarding the camera question (probably long forgotten by the poster) the quality is good. Every 'phone I get I take some comparison shots of local landmarks to compare them too.
If I was to rate it against 'phones that you might have experienced, and score them out of ten:
Blackberry Priv. 10
Huawei P9. 9
SmartisanNut Pro. 8
Sincere apologies for not responding until six months after your question, sorry.
Since the most recent update to the software (V 6.0.0.1) my 'phone battery has been draining itself overnight, from 70% or more at bedtime to 0% by breakfast.
I have been trying for two days to downgrade the software to a previous one, with little success. I've actually today ordered an inexpensive 'phone to reluctantly replace the Smartisan (I still absolutely love the 'phone). Not an hour after I placed my order, you guessed it, I finally managed the magic combination of key presses required to enter recovery mode.
In a few steps, here's how I did it:
1. Download a full copy of the Smartisan OS, I used V 4.1.0.2 as I had a copy of this saved on my iMac already. According to the (Chinese) Smartisan Forum, 3.7.9 is favoured, but I didn't have a copy of that. File size for this file is around 1.8Gb
2. Copy the downloaded .Zip file to the root drive of the Smartisan internal storage.
3. Turn off the 'phone screen by pressing and holding the 'Home' button. [Not sure if turning off the screen using the 'Home' button is important, if it is you might have to enable this option in the button shortcuts settings]
4. Press and hold: Volume+, Volume-, Power and Home. Ignore any prompts on the screen to power down. Keep all four buttons pressed in until the 'phone switches off.
5. As soon as the boot logo (Hammer icon) appears on the screen, release all buttons.
6. Use the Volume +/- buttons to select 'Update System from SD' then press the power button.
7. Use the Volume +/- buttons to navigate to the location that you saved the update file to. [This is why it is recommended to save it in the root directory of the 'phone storage]
8. Press the Power button to start the update.
The whole time to update took about 5 minutes or so, then I had to select 'Reboot'. The boot time took a little longer than normal but once rebooted all my apps were in place, almost everything worked normally, immediately.
Some of the Google apps (including the Smartisan Mail and Calendar apps which I have linked to a Google Account) failed to sync which concerned me for a while. I simply deleted my Google account from the 'phone and then set up the account again and my Email, Contacts and Calendar all returned.
I did not wipe the cache, return to factory settings or anything else as I was hoping not to have to re-install all my apps and accounts one by one again if I could help it. As the underlying "Android" OS is still V7 between the V4 and V6 Smartisan OS versions, I hoped this wouldn't be needed. Perhaps other people won't be so lucky.
I'd already ordered a replacement 'phone so if I'd bricked the Smartisan, I'd be upset, but not I wouldn't be without a 'phone.
I would suggest you back up everything important to you, before trying this downgrade as it is possible you will be left with a totally non-working 'phone.
I do still really like the 'phone. If reinstalling a previous operating system fails to cure the problem of the excessive battery consumption I shall be really sorry.
One of the previous updates to the system added a very effective Face Unlock feature. It is possible that this isn't very secure, I have no way to tell, but it works reliably (unless the light is coming from behind me) and I've not found a way of fooling using pictures, photographs or other people.
First of all thanx to mkstevo for opening this topic. I own three Nut Pro phones and they really are wonderful devices. My story is a bit more complicated so maybe it will help someone. I gave a red Nut Pro 4/64 to my girlfirend. It was updated to the latest Smartisan OS OTA (6.X). After only a few days the phone restarted by itself and displayed only Smartisan logo. If you connected it to pc, red notification blinked for a few times (never a good sign).
With my experience with flashing i sensed the phone didn't have a hardware error but it was connected with sw. And also the thought you could never actually brick Snapdragon phones to the point of no return kept me optimistic.
I could get into recovery but couldn't load a rom onto my internal storage. The sd card and OTG usb drive were not recognized (no matter how i formatted them). I could only use adb sideload which was working but the end result was always 0. SO no progress.
It is really hard to find any info or rom about this phone, but unbrick guides are virtually non existent. After hours of Google translate I found a link on a russian site to this rom which should be QFIL flashable (pass: 5pn2) After downloading it for 2 days a lot of captchas and jdownloader sessions i got the rom from baidu.
Next challenge was to put the Nut Pro into EDL (i already had a edl cable prepared). It turns out you should press volume+, volume- and edl button when starting the device and when Smartisan logo appears - you should let them all go. The device starts blinking red constantly and you have Qualcomm Qloader 9008 in the device manager.
After that i loaded the firehouse and xml files and the flashing actually proceeded to the end with success. But the phone still didn't boot up but rather went straight into Smartisan recovery. Something told me to try and "adb sideload" one last time. Not really expecting anything I took the oldest rom i could find (3.6) and sideloaded it and this time adb sideload said success and 1. And to my surprise the device booted up normally.
I do not know what caused the crash. Maybe it was an incompatibility with some app or just a bug in the latest version of Smartisan OS. After 2 weeks of use we couldn't recreate the problem. Other 2 devices are also running fine. EDL flashing obviously reached the partitions that were messed up and couldn't be repaired otherwise.
SO if you ever run into a problem, this is probably the only source you can find about this phone. And it's a great phone, a joy to use and something totally different software wise. There are newer and better Smartisans out, but this one is fairly cheap, has a great screen, great battery, solid camera and is build like nothing on the market.
p.s.
if anybody has a hard time finding roms on bbs.smartisan or on their official site, here is a collection of Nut Pro roms.
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The link is broken, smartisan nut pro firmware
Hello,
New to the forum, at least posting have been lurking and reading for years, but this will be my first post.
Mi 10T Pro, stuck in bootloop. I have been trying to get it going again and have been having no luck, so I decided it is time to turn to the pros for some help.
Symptoms:
Bootloops 1 or 2 times to the MIUI logo, then boots to the recovery menu
Not possible to turn of completely, bootloops until battery drains completely
Able to get to the fastboot menu
What I have tried:
I had a suspicion that it was a problem with the power button, so i replaced the ribbon but no improvement (Unless new one is bad also?)
Replaced Battery, no improvements
Tried all the button press combinations to try and do hard reboot and so on
About Device:
Software version: Unknown as the phone broke a long time ago, got a replacement and the phone has been sitting in the drawer...
Phone was never rooted or unlocked in any other way
The phone is open and I could unplug battery or try a new ribbon for the power button (I have a new one on hand)
What I would like to achieve:
Save the data that is on the phone.... This is the main thing I would like to do as there is precious pictures of my young kids and so on....
Get the phone working and use it as an emergency device
Options I think are still available in order of how I would like to attempt them:
Do a software recovery, by installing a stock rom, example: (
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I don't know what version of rom to download as I don't know what version the phone was on
I don't know if this will work since the bootloader has never been unlocked
Anything else possible before next step?
Reset through the reset menu. and cry over all the lost data (
All suggestions are welcome.
Thank you!
this phone is notorious for needing to be reballed after a few years of use. its a trash phone. join any mi 10T groups in facebook and youll see countless users who had to pay specialist technicians to reball their CPU and Memory chips and even then, they still fail after a few weeks/months.
Thank you for your answer ongkal. So you don't think its worth to try to overwrite the loader? I don't want to have to reball if its a software issue, but will if it comes down to it.
Mainly just want to get the files out, went back to samsung after first phone with xiaomi...
I was just looking at the reball videos on youtube and most of the phones are completely dead, mine still turns on but straight into bootloop. Besides they say it might be due to gaming, which that phone has not seen