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thinking of selling my bolt

You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.

A) This shouldn't be in accessories.
B)You'll get about $375 for it if its perfect.
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Are you posting this because your soliciting offers, or do you want us to talk you back down to earth?
We here in the TB subthread are a hearty bunch who very much like our somewhat maligned smartphone
$375 would be optimistic, and definitely not including eBay/Paypal fees (google for a calculator to get a good idea of how much they take).
What is not doing it for you on the TB? Have you tried some of the slimmed roms?

Well to put it bluntly, I hate sense. Fixed that with launcher pro, but that doesn't let me use the sense elements I do like. The signal is crap (where I am), no 4g here yet. I only got it to be grandfathered in before the tiered data plans. Now that they are extended I'm thinking of other options. It's a ford chevy thing. You can argue it all day and no one is right or wrong. My droid x was more reliable in my area, and usability is most important to me.

Can't blame a man for that...you'll get no flaming from me.
I have a great VZW signal and LTE where I'm at. I completely understand where you are coming from.
Have you tried, for S&G, another Tbolt just to see if you could get better reception?
I'm with you on tiered data...I just got my girl her iPhone 4 Saturday (I could not convince her to come to the dark side...sorry..lol)
My advice is to try a replacement first before you sign off...but I understand if you do, regardless. Best of luck...

Yea a thunderbolt without 4g is nothing but a dinc 2. You really liked your droid x? I hated that phone, no matter OC or rom, it always was mega laggy throughout the UI. The hdmi out was nice though.

Oldmansin said:
You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.
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I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.

I know the TB has no HDMI, but what do you guys use that feature for anyway?
I went from the Droid to TB and other than the battery life I love the TB! I've got 4G in my area and get 16mb download which is simply awesome. The 3 hour battery life or 5 hour if I turn off LTE sucks big time.

When does the bionic come out anyway? Im not too crazy for moto after the X and D2 days with the locked boot loaders. Even tho there were ways around it, it still sucked. Hopefully the Bionic is not the same.

I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.

not trying to diss the OP but the tbolt is the most solid phone verizon carries. i mean yeah sense sucks but i just use launcherpro + the sense 3.0 lockscreen. i mean come on man there are tons of alternative launchers on the market and xda. sounds as if he just is making excuses to dump the phone.
no offense but i think you would be happier sticking to this one as both samsung & moto phones are not the best and do not get as many updates as htc phones. trust me as ive owned almost every brand out there.

pmcall said:
I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.
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i wouldn't except anything under $300 for this phone.

I'll give you a BAMFed Nook Color for it : D

Im not understanding how rooted users are getting terrible battery life. 1GHz is plenty fast for anything a phone will do leave it there and underclock it when its off, I got another 6-8 hours of battery life out of my TB and no lag what so ever.
I completely understand if you don't have 4G because if it wasn't for my awesome 4G I would have probably gotten rid of it and just waited for the galaxy s2. But the amount of dev support already for the TB has made me stick with it.

Noooooo don't selllllllll
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I don't understand why ppl don't like sense. It's slippery slick on BAMF! The battery life is not that bad if not good. It's a great phone. I dont have 4g and I still happy. Just sell it and move on to whatever...
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I wouldn't sell it. The bolt is just at the point of infancy with development so who knows what other ROMs will come out
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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.

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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.
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I'm with you on this. If you wanna sell it, sell it. You shouldn't come to a forum so strangers can agree or disagree with you on that matter. I personally wish you the best of luck in your voyage on selling the device. I'd do it sooner than later considering as each day passes by, the phone you own right now is depreciating in value quickly. Hold onto the money until the next great phone comes out. Maybe the Galaxy S2 (Function). I know I'm as lost as everyone else is about that phone's specs for verizon, but I think it's going to be CDMA only w/o LTE. I'm personally waiting for that to come out before I start thinking about ditching my bolt which works great for me

1Android said:
I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.
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You need to turn on your 4G bud. It's been up and running in Portland, OR for at least a few weeks now. I know that it hasn't been "announced." But it's working... I live here.
Ron

I love my dinc! But what's next?

I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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Nothing is worthy of replacing the inc yet. I look daily. Lol
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wollitaj said:
I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.

I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.

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I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*

I did a long hard search and honestly there is nothing better than the DINC right now.
The Droid incredible 2 I still wouldn't take just because of the lack of development.

I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.

actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps

Keyboards said:
HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
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Ill tell ya what, if the next nexus is truely an HTC phone on Verizon, I will definitely get it. Its the best of everything android stands for. Open source vanilla OS and superior hardware. HTC is, by far, my top pick for any android phone!!!! And ics, come on.... What more can u ask for?
It's wall to wall walls in this place!!!

TheWhiteBandito said:
I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
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That's when I have my upgrade option as well and honestly I'm thinking about switching to Sprint. They have been getting some of the best phones lately. When I look at Verizon's line up and upcoming it seems to be all of the same.

JoelZ9614 said:
actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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Hm i didn't see that.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/sprints-fared-adib-we-made-a-conscious-decision-to-scale-back/

Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.

I have incredible faith (heh heh) in our devs. Seeing as the inc2 has just been rooted and we have the 2 big boys, cm7 and Miui already available for the device, i believe ill be accidentally taking a shower with my Dinc in my pocket in the next few weeks.
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rfarrah said:
Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
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Also, as far as I'm concerned, as long as the devs hold in there with this phone until the end of this year and port ICS, I will probably keep this phone until it dies.
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Im keeping my Incredible until 3/13/13. Then i dont know if my girlfriend gets my upgrade or i do.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc, absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard. I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet. There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.

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I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
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Verizon gets a small incentive from the companies of the bloatware, that's why they put them on there. and i don't think verizon will ever get a nexus bone stock android phone, i really don't, here is why. Verizon isn't really out there for the consumer, they are out there for the profit. hence why, i mean at t-mobile and ATT, if you want a new phone, no problem, walk into the store, and get one at the upgrade price....in the middle of your contract.
Verizon hasn't gotten the idea of that just yet. plus like other companies, verizon does have shareholders to report to (and they aren't happy, they think the data plan changes will ruin their investment)
the only reason i have verizon is because that's the only carrier here with decent coverege, and they really aren't as bad as people make them out to be.

loonatik78 said:
What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc,
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that's your oppinion.
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absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard.
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yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
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I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet.
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maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
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There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
the way you pimp the freaking t-bolt so much... the thunderbolt threads are down there

Kiboe said:
that's your oppinion.
yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.

loonatik78 said:
Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Wow man way to be a total ****. I have an incredible and my brother has a Tbolt, I can honestly say I prefer mine over it.
Besides that, although the Tbolt and INC2 *are* upgrades from the INC- for most people they just aren't worth someone's 2-year contract or full retail to get that sort of an upgrade. You've been out of the INC scene for a while it looks like.. and DEV's here are still putting out loads of stuff every day increasing performance/battery life/features -- moreso than INC2 or Thunderbolt since they've been out a shorter time. The INC2 even has issues now where if you buy it and it comes with GB, you can't even root it.
4G is extremely scarce, if you drive out 5 miles from whatever city you're in then you're out of luck as far as 4G goes. 4G is nowhere in my state yet, not even in our capitol (Richmond) and it looks like it'll be at least a year, probably more until we get it. The 3G, at least where I'm at, is fantastically good. I get 320kb/s on a good day and low 200's/kb/s during peak hours. That's enough to stream Colbert report, download movies (I've downloaded 4 so far) and watch netflix without pauses or hiccups.
So.. even if there WAS 4G in my area there really isn't any need that I get it since I don't normally watch HD movies on a ~4" screen or tether it to a datacenter.
Your opinion and mine.. but you don't need to flaunt around your phone while downing the INC (on our own forums) which is a perfectly awesome phone.

Extremely happy with my Galaxy Nexus

Coming from a HTC Sensation here.. Was a bit worried with some of the initial previews and complaints, but damn I'm happy with my GN!
Major pros from my perspective:
- Absolutely stunning screen.
- ICS is the bomb. No need for a Sense-like skin to get a fantastic user experience.
- Pleased with battery life (ALOT better than my sensation)
- Software buttons IMHO are perfect. Not wasting space for HW buttons with basically less functionality. Have to admit tho that when I bad flash the framework I'm a bit crippled but this is a minor disadvantage imo.
- Awesome development already! Even tho ICS is in early release status.
- No crappy/broken & late sourcecode releases
Just a small cry of happiness. Nothing major in this topic. :d
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Oh. And the camera produces brilliant pictures for a phone. With lightning quick focus & zero shutter lag.
Oh 2. Its fast as hell. Haven't seen any other phone other than an iPhone being this smooth.
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lamecake said:
Oh. And the camera produces brilliant pictures for a phone. With lightning quick focus & zero shutter lag.
Oh 2. Its fast as hell. Haven't seen any other phone other than an iPhone being this smooth.
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welcome to the crew

Are you going to do the happy nerd dance?

zetsumeikuro said:
Are you going to do the happy nerd dance?
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Already done! :d
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lamecake said:
Oh. And the camera produces brilliant pictures for a phone. With lightning quick focus & zero shutter lag.
Oh 2. Its fast as hell. Haven't seen any other phone other than an iPhone being this smooth.
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A faster smoother phone is a Galaxy Nexus with 4.0.3 <3

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Are you going to do the happy nerd dance?
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Man when I got this phone I ran around my house screaming and yelling. Canceled all my appointments and conquered the couch.
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Yeah, I got mine yesterday and it has been great. Light years faster than my old x10 and pretty stable considering that it is new software. Looking forward to see how ics will evolve.
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Add me to the list of happy customers.

ChongoDroid said:
Man when I got this phone I ran around my house screaming and yelling. Canceled all my appointments and conquered the couch.
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Already done! :d
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Sweet!

I'm very happy with my GNex as well. Coming from a fascinate it's like having my phone but more solidly built, with 4G, and full google support. I'm really pretty impressed that verizion got 4G out here to my little town and got this phone for us. I'm way more impressed with all the good devs out there that are working on this phone.
I know it's going to be a run ride!

I just wanna say that I'm extremely pleased with my Verizon branded galaxy nexus, I know the battery life is crap, I know the launch was all screwed up, I know it has those vertical lines that everyone seems to Really notice, I know it has a two dollar plastic backing that They feels cheap, I see that it doesn't say Google on the back but verizon 4g lte, I realize that my update my come a week or two later after verizon approves it, I see that the camera is five megs and not eight like everyone else..... Tell me something I don't know.
I love this Phone. Best thus far. Its a benchmark device. No phone that I've seen has these very responsive buttons on the bottom. Love em!! Hey, they just work. Ain't that what they say about their product? Screen makes you wanna google something, don't it? Mostly everything is integrated into the software design of the phone. I understand the problems we are experiencing but cmon, no device is without this or that. Besides it will be fixed very shortly. Patience!! Best phone out. Benchmark Android.!!
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I couldn't be happier with this phone. I don't see any vertical banding,the phone is very snappy and responsive (then again I had an OG droid and a droid eris). The only issue I have yet to have is maybe not so great LTE connectivity, but the guy at Verizon told me it wasn't too great in this area yet and should leave it in CDMA mode unless I am near philly. When I did get a 4g signal it was great, but not a full signal. I got downloads of 18mbps, 13 mbps, 10mbps and the lowest being 6mbps in no order and at different times and places. The camera take AMAZING pictures outside and with great light, however it becomes slow(blurry) and grainy in low light (this makes sense). The first brand new phone I bought was the first Storm blackberry that actually served me well until it killed itself. What I liked about the storm, or blackberries in general, is how the received email. Neither of my droids did this so well, I would get old mail notifications, it would double up on mail, and mail would come in late to the phone even if I had it to receive every 15mins or less. This phone, however, is great! I receive everything promptly.
In addition, I just got the extended battery... I know its not a lot but it helps. Also, as reported by other users, it makes the phone much nicer to feel in your hand. The added weight and curvature of the backing makes it fit really nice. Since I use the phone quite a bit, i was hoping the battery will help it last through the day (I am not expecting this phone to last me days) but so far it has been much better than my OG droid has been to me. The large screen may eat battery but its hard not to look at .
I am glad many other people seem to like it after listening to a lot of complaints that seem to be largely unfounded anecdotal evidence or from bloated demo phones in stores that probably have had 10 programs open all day at once. (I will agree though that the phone can get hot, but I don't think to the point that I couldn't hold it anymore... just sweaty palms.)
PSS: also, lag??? what lag?

I'm happy as well. However, I came from an OG Droid and almost anything is a step up from that.
I did mess with the Samsung Galaxy S II, Droid RAZR, and a few other high end phones, but the feel of the Galaxy Nexus takes the cake in my opinion.

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Coming from a HTC Sensation here.. Was a bit worried with some of the initial previews and complaints, but damn I'm happy with my GN!
Major pros from my perspective:
- Absolutely stunning screen.
- ICS is the bomb. No need for a Sense-like skin to get a fantastic user experience.
- Pleased with battery life (ALOT better than my sensation)
- Software buttons IMHO are perfect. Not wasting space for HW buttons with basically less functionality. Have to admit tho that when I bad flash the framework I'm a bit crippled but this is a minor disadvantage imo.
- Awesome development already! Even tho ICS is in early release status.
- No crappy/broken & late sourcecode releases
Just a small cry of happiness. Nothing major in this topic. :d
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really love your review. Hope I will be as happy with mine. I am coming from the D1, and I loved it a lot, rooted with GB. I got my GN yesterday, but waiting until Christmas to open it. Gift from the wife, and have to keep her happy. I am making her wait to open her new White, 64gig 3g iPad2
Question: have you got any updates yet? Have read of several problems, one being a bug in the signal strength, and something about the rocker volume.
How is your reception so far. I know that depends on a lot and if you even have 4g. I live in the Washington DC area, so pretty good 4g here. I will report back when I have spend time with my GN. Can't wait!!!
BTW, Verizon has pretty good reviews there. Thanks for sharing, and glad you love yours Thanks!

Add me to the pile of happy customers. I can't seem to put it down and that is what's killing my battery. If I use it under normal circumstances, I expect it will last long enough. I ordered a secondary battery to carry with me for a quick swap.
ICS is very refined in comparison to previous releases. Only feature I miss from HTC Sense is the ability to merge contacts from multiple places (Corporate Email, Facebook, Twitter) into one entry per person. Google Wallet rocks, if only it supported my credit cards.
Viva GNex!
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melp57 said:
Question: have you got any updates yet? Have read of several problems, one being a bug in the signal strength, and something about the rocker volume.
How is your reception so far. I know that depends on a lot and if you even have 4g. I live in the Washington DC area, so pretty good 4g here. I will report back when I have spend time with my GN. Can't wait!!!
BTW, Verizon has pretty good reviews there. Thanks for sharing, and glad you love yours Thanks!
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For understanding the Signal Strength I recommend Anandtech's Investigation as a starting point. That being said, I have no complaints about signal strength but I did have an issue with the phone not routing data. It occurred on both Wifi and 4G. Had to reboot the phone to fix it. It showed a signal during the problem.

iGotTheRuns said:
I'm happy as well. However, I came from an OG Droid and almost anything is a step up from that.
I did mess with the Samsung Galaxy S II, Droid RAZR, and a few other high end phones, but the feel of the Galaxy Nexus takes the cake in my opinion.
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I was also looking at the Droid RAZR but got the GN instead. glad I did

I'm also extremely happy with my Nexus. Came from a Droid Charge(actually a rent-a-Rezound),and this phone feels like it's in a league of its own. It's super smooth, has an amazing development community, amazing screen, and an amazing OS. Did I mention it's amazing?
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zetsumeikuro said:
Are you going to do the happy nerd dance?
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I'm going to do the dance. Very pleased with this phone as well. I mean really happy. The experience I’ve had with it so far is nothing less than brilliant. I sold my bionic to get this baby and i was a little apprehensive initially because I’ve been a Motorola user for so long....
But long last I can use my device and really use my device.

P-bot said:
I know it's going to be a run ride!
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Talk to scooby doo much?
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Quitting on this phone

I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!

You can unlock it.

samsungepicgeek said:
I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!
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You were here? I thought presence was required before saying "goodbye"? Glad you shared your useless thoughts.

samsungepicgeek said:
I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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So, SamsungEpicGuy looked at our phone. Then he said that nothing Samsung has is better at the moment but some time in 2013 he is going to be rocking a phone that is better than this one.
Seriously, where is the moderator at? We have Question in the General Section. We have general comments in the development section. Now we have trolls wanting things that don't exist.

Haters going to hate, trollers going to troll. Fuhget about Em lol
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Good effort getting 5 replies in an hour, but could troll harder (mention no microSD slot maybe), 3 stars

Kchitown1977 said:
Haters going to hate, trollers going to troll. Fuhget about Em lol
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Yep, BTW...Rangers lead the way!
I personally am a fan or 101st Airborne. We have a "Rendezvous With Destiny".

kc_exactly said:
Yep, BTW...Rangers lead the way!
I personally am a fan or 101st Airborne. We have a "Rendezvous With Destiny".
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I hear. I ain't gonna hate on the rangers..... We still all brothers in arms
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The bootloader was unlocked....Read development.
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Poor guy, by the time the S4 comes out there will be something "better" from LG or HTC etc.... he's probably waiting on the iphone 8 lol
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Need help making a choice...
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!

Lurien said:
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!
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I would honestly stay away from the Evo 4G LTE. I was a pre-order coming off an OG EVO. Sense 4 is way over aggressive on task killing and the stock mail apk would not translate html from my work exchange server , so I got lines of code. The phone also has very poor performance picking up lte signal. Deck's cm10 made the phone much better (Deck is the only saving grace in my opinion).
Sprint switched me into the S3 last week, and I picked up a lgog off Craigslist for cheap. I think both of these phones are superior to the Evo 4Gm lte . I do like the Evo 4G lte display though.

Lurien said:
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!
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Personally after owning a 3D, idk how you could consider HTC again. I wanted to throw mine against a wall. I absolutely love the Optimus G and would highly recommend it to other people. The camera isn't as good as the Evo LTE or the GS3 but it's good enough for what I need. Performance is lightning quick, battery life is great, very high build quality, and the screen is gorgeous. And LG's UI is actually really nice, I like it much better than Sense.
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ncfastls1 said:
Personally after owning a 3D, idk how you could consider HTC again. I wanted to throw mine against a wall. I absolutely love the Optimus G and would highly recommend it to other people. The camera isn't as good as the Evo LTE or the GS3 but it's good enough for what I need. Performance is lightning quick, battery life is great, very high build quality, and the screen is gorgeous. And LG's UI is actually really nice, I like it much better than Sense.
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I understand what you're your saying; but when I bought the 3d I was coming from (ironically) an LG phone. But that phone was very, very basic. So when I got the 3d, my first smartphone, it was the biggest thing to me at the time. Reading your comment I can tell that I'll have that same feeling if I get the Optimus G, if its as great as many people say. Thanks for your insight.

Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.

samsungepicgeek said:
Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.
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Your name is samsungepicgeek, you sure you got a life??
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Lurien said:
I understand what you're your saying; but when I bought the 3d I was coming from (ironically) an LG phone. But that phone was very, very basic. So when I got the 3d, my first smartphone, it was the biggest thing to me at the time. Reading your comment I can tell that I'll have that same feeling if I get the Optimus G, if its as great as many people say. Thanks for your insight.
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My first smart phone was the Evo 4G. It was mind blowingly awesome. Like I literally loved everything about it, except for the top mounted power button that felt extremely cheap, and they continued that with the Evo 3D. Why HTC keeps thinking the top is the best place for the unlock/power button is beyond me...I'm so happy that it's on the side with the OG. I ended up with a 3D cause I shattered the screen on my 4G and they sent me one through insurance. After two years with HTC, I hate Sense and I'm just ready to move on. I'm not really brand biased, so I was open to LG. I had a LG Shine years back and I absolutely loved that phone. Even without a buzzing dev community it's still a great phone. I think you'll be very happy here though

New to this group. Had HTC for a long time and now the Samsung Epic 4G Touch (love this phone). But i have looked at all the options out there and it does seems that this Optimus G is the BEST out there (at least for now, and i i looking for a phone now!!!) So just ordered it...and will be in this forum from now on.
JP

samsungepicgeek said:
Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.
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What's done is done. Welcome back!
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joao2307 said:
New to this group. Had HTC for a long time and now the Samsung Epic 4G Touch (love this phone). But i have looked at all the options out there and it does seems that this Optimus G is the BEST out there (at least for now, and i i looking for a phone now!!!) So just ordered it...and will be in this forum from now on.
JP
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Sounds like we had a similar update path. I went from the original Evo 4G to the Epic 4G Touch(which I sadly dropped in my soup at a sushi restaurant, phone still kind of works, btw, but the charging light won't turn off) and am now also on the Optimus G. With that being said, here's what you will miss:
1. The super saturated Super AMOLED Plus display. It will take time for your eyes and brain to adjust to normal color temperatures so don't let that put you off.
2. Samsung's Smart alarm. If you don't know what it is though, then you won't miss it, but it was a built in alarm function that would wake you gently to nature sounds. I missed it horribly...at first...until I downloaded Alarm Clock Xtreme and a $0.99 nature sounds album from Amazon.
3. Getting used to not having a microSD card slot.
4. Removable battery...not a huge deal since the Optimus G battery is much larger capacity, but I did have the stock battery on my Epic 4G Touch swell before I got the battery replaced, hopefully that won't be an issue with the Optimus "non-removable" battery.
5. Not going to lie, the camera on the Epic is better. With that being said, You may want to look into Camera ZoomFX for the time being as the Optimus has an issue with locking in autofocus, losing it and locking in again....even when you touch to focus. The aforementioned app doesn't appear to have that problem so it's believed to be a problem in LG's camera software, not necessarily the hardware.
With that being said, here's what you'll gain:
1. Quite possibly one of the best LCD displays out at the moment(excepting the Droid DNAs freakishly high pixel count). 720P movies look amazing on the Optimus G.
2. 50GB box.com account. Just download it from the play store directly from the phone and they will make 50 GB available to you for free. You can then download it on your Epic and use it to easily transfer files from one phone to another wirelessly as well as using it on your computer as well.
3. I never did the ICS update on my Epic as I was rooted, so maybe this wasn't an issue, but ICS no longer separates app storage partitions so the full amount of formatted memory on the phone is available to be used for app store.
4. 2 GB of ram(I guess in truth you're gaining one since the Epic had 1GB).
5. If you have an MHL adaptor for your Epic, rest assured knowing it will work with the Optimus G, unlike the GS3 and Note 2 where Samsung broke with traditional MHL compatibility forcing you to buy their overpriced MHL adaptor.
6. Working GPS. I dare you to download GPS test on the Epic and then the Optimus when you receive it and go outside and see how long they take to get a lock and how many satellites the phones are actually connecting to. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. My Epic would never connect to more than a handful at a time and had accuracy ranges measured in tens of yards. The Optimus G connects magnitudes faster and to more satellites with an average accuracy of 10 feet as far as I've observed.
7. Build quality to put Samsung to shame. Co-worker of mine got the GS3 about the same time I got my Optimus and for 14 days, he really had to convince himself he was ok with the subjectively chintzy feeling of the GS3 in comparison to the solid construction of the Optimus(he came from an original Evo as well so weight and solidity were what he was used to).
8. Less tangible, but the hope is that since this phone is a near clone of the Nexus 4, there should be plenty of development on it and since LG is in the Nexus program now, hopefully Jellybean will follow in short order.
9. Effective radios. I already mentioned GPS, but I've found wifi to be much stronger with this phone as is 3G(I won't compare 4G since they use different technologies). In one of the other posts someone posted the FCC measurements and this phone is right up there with the Motorola Photon(Moto usually seems to design some of the most effective radios out there so that's high praise).
10. Last but not least, his beast of a processor. The Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core with the Adreno 320 GPU. Quadrant scores in the mid to high 7000 range are now within your grasp(for what it's worth...bragging rights, maybe). With that being said, the phone behaves like it's on steroids. Nothing slows it down.
Welcome to the group!

Htc evo lte

So, my mom is getting her upgrade in 2 weeks and I was thinking of giving her my gs3 and getting an evo. I like the build quality, screen, and camera, and its something new. I just wanted to know if anyone that owns an evo has any input on whether I should do this. Also, it'd be cool if you guys knew anything that makes this phone significantly superior to the evo (other than dev support)

Why dont you just post in the lte forums then...?
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CNexus said:
Why dont you just post in the lte forums then...?
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Exactly.
Though I've seen and played with the LTE, and basically an evo 4g on 'roids. I've seen more people leave the LTE to come to the G S III. Also, seen people have signal issue due to the aluminum chassis and backing.

CNexus said:
Why dont you just post in the lte forums then...?
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Because I don't want people just saying that the evo is God's gift to mankind when they can't compare it to a gs3

Lolanerd said:
Because I don't want people just saying that the evo is God's gift to mankind when they can't compare it to a gs3
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Well they would be able to give you specifics more than anyone here haha
And I'm pretty sure that not everyone is satisfied with it, seeing all the phones that are coming soon
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i came from the evoLTE to the GS3 and if I were you I would stick with the GS3 or get the note2.. or.. get the note2 and let me buy it from you and ill give you my GS3 plus cash .. Anyways the reason I stayed with the GS3 is because my EvoLTE had the bend problem. Like so many others have had. Also the kickstand always wanted to come unscrewed. Plus the GS3 is just so much smoother, and the EvoLTE external speaker sucks compared to the GS3.
Of course I did like the phyical camera button on the EvoLTE. Plus the screen was beautiful. But like I said before.. The build quality might look better in person. But if you put the two against each other head to head the GS3 will come out on top because plastic is always more giving.

I actually just came from the lte, great phone but doesnt compare to the GSIII, which really surprised me. I loved HTC devices after the original evo served me well, I moved onto the Epic touch and it was a terrible experience for me, gps and location services were soooooo bad with that phone, it made me swear off ever owning another Samsung device. I ended up getting the evo lte in August, which I promptly rooted (biggest pain in the a$$) well the screen starting going whack few weeks ago, returned it to Best Buy and because they didnt have any evos they replaced it with a GSIII, I was and still am blown away by this device, Samsung has a beast on their hands with this thing!! imo the GSIII is a better device, and I was team HTC all the way until the day I got the GSIII

dont : i personally like evo lte more than s3 ( yeah i know : shoot me )
but evo lte always gave me great data speed and 0 signal loss .
but memory is low on that phone and htc is messing with users since jb update , making it freakin hard foe S-On folks.
my advise wait another month and see whats s4 is gonna be , or get a note 2 : ace phone

teh roxxorz said:
Exactly.
Though I've seen and played with the LTE, and basically an evo 4g on 'roids. I've seen more people leave the LTE to come to the G S III. Also, seen people have signal issue due to the aluminum chassis and backing.
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That's what I did. This phone has way better support and updates from Samsung. HTC is totally not caring about the development community. There kernel source for jelly bean isn't even out yet and the phone had had it for over a month
Anthraxed FreeGS3 @ 1.51 Ghz
Faster then your 2.1

Alright, I guess I have been convinced, thanks everyone.

Lolanerd said:
So, my mom is getting her upgrade in 2 weeks and I was thinking of giving her my gs3 and getting an evo. I like the build quality, screen, and camera, and its something new. I just wanted to know if anyone that owns an evo has any input on whether I should do this. Also, it'd be cool if you guys knew anything that makes this phone significantly superior to the evo (other than dev support)
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I can tell you the gs3 camera with ma6 kills the lte. Our screen is less sharp but colors are truer. Battery life on the Samsung's are better.
I've owned both and definitely prefer the lte
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I've owned both, I liked the lte camera more than the gs3's, but other than that I'm happy I switched to samsung.