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I'm new to the whole Android community and I was messing around with my new Wind Galaxy S3 T999V. I got it rooted and everything was fine until i tried to install a kernel not realizing that it was for the I9300 version. Now I'm pretty sure I'm hardbricked, so to stop myself from getting into this situation again, I wanted to know how the kernels and roms worked different in each type of phone.
I read that removing certain files like boot and radio from the roms allow you to use them on different variants. Is that the same case when it comes to kernels or do kernels operate completely differently. As I said, complete noob here and trying to learn but I'm so confused with all these different things.
Your help is very appreciated.
-Sarmad
Just make sure you are in the correct forum and each ROM and/or kernel has detailed instructions as to what to do, what their programs do, and which phones they are for.
I can't give much specific advice or answer questions, I'm a noob as well.
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Oh I've learned my lesson, but I want to know if I can take other ROMS/ kernels and remove certain files that will conflict with my phone and still be able to to get the REST of the rom/ kernel working on my phone. Or if I can tweak certain rom/ kernels and put the necessary files for my phone within them and have them working smoothly.
Main problem being, that I'm on Wind and the dev community for the Canadian stuff is small, so I'd just port over T-mobile stuff or the international roms & kernels.
Anybody even reading these? Could defs use the help as random posts aren't really helping me understand. And I really don't wanna brick another phone.
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sarmadical said:
Oh I've learned my lesson, but I want to know if I can take other ROMS/ kernels and remove certain files that will conflict with my phone and still be able to to get the REST of the rom/ kernel working on my phone. Or if I can tweak certain rom/ kernels and put the necessary files for my phone within them and have them working smoothly.
Main problem being, that I'm on Wind and the dev community for the Canadian stuff is small, so I'd just port over T-mobile stuff or the international roms & kernels.
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unless you are a dev/op your self. i would not mess with that stuff. use roms/kernels that are your for exact model and carrier. you are risking another brick man.
True. But I wouldn't mind info on how those things work, you never know could get into developing for android.
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sarmadical said:
True. But I wouldn't mind info on how those things work, you never know could get into developing for android.
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very true. i love learning new things my self and would be awesome if i could learn how to do all the dev stuff but it takes time and patience.. two things i am not really good with haha.
Considering the similarities between the domestic variants of the Note 2 and their international counterparts, would anyone be willing to test some of the success that the folks over in the AT&T forum have had with porting the international N7100/N7105 firmware/ROM's over to the Sprint Note 2
Check out these two threads over in the AT&T forum and see what you all think:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016575
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018411
The basic gist of the procedure is to use a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP to flash a stock N7100/N7105 firmware, and then flash your carrier specific modem/kernel.
Why would anyone want to do this? Well, for starters, you would benefit from built-in stock-supported tethering, and a few other features that carriers disable (YMMV). But mainly this means that the domestic versions of the Note 2 can benefit from the development of the international versions! So, when the latest version of Android comes out for the rest of the world, we aren't stuck here waiting for our carrier to catch up to everyone else...
So what do you all think? Anyone willing to try?
Clarification: Just so everyone is on the same page here, I want to stress that, while this process is successful on both the AT&T and T-Mobile GN2's, this is VERY dangerous if you do not know what you are doing. I would NOT recommend anyone try this unless you are confident in your abilities to recover from a brick situation.
Again, if you are even REMOTELY interested in trying this out on your own, don't even think about bothering with it unless you absolutely know what you are doing! I take no responsibility for any bricks that come from someone trying this without the proper experience and know-how. You have been warned!
it works on the ATT variant because it and the international are both GSM. We are CDMA, i doubt that it would be as easy. Using verizon ROMs might be a different story though.
Also this ------------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992947
skyjedi said:
it works on the ATT variant because it and the international are both GSM. We are CDMA, i doubt that it would be as easy. Using verizon ROMs might be a different story though.
Also maybe Q&A not general?
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See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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No the partitions are completely different also .... so flashing the international roms could definitely brick it
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ix3u said:
How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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Not a single one in the Q&A section either.
This thread is dangerous, dont normally say that, but PLEASE dont encourage (or even put the idea in peoples heads) that they should flash something for a different phone. What you described is NOT porting. Your asking for a brick flashing different firmware. And why dont YOU try it then get back to us....on your computer, cus your phone will be a paperweight
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Epix4G said:
No the partitions are completely different also .... so flashing the international roms could definitely brick it
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Partitions aren't completely. They are almost identical. You just need to flash the OS properly.
sleshepic said:
This thread is dangerous, dont normally say that, but PLEASE dont encourage (or even put the idea in peoples heads) that they should flash something for a different phone. What you described is NOT porting. Your asking for a brick flashing different firmware. And why dont YOU try it then get back to us....on your computer, cus your phone will be a paperweight
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Not recommended for sure. At least for beginners. You can flash their stock ROMs is you flash properly flash them and make sure there's no radio and that you use your stock kernel.
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na7q said:
Partitions aren't completely. They are almost identical. You just need to flash the OS properly.
Not recommended for sure. At least for beginners. You can flash their stock ROMs is you flash properly flash them and make sure there's no radio and that you use your stock kernel.
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They are different though
/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 /data -ours
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /data -theirs.
We have /dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /carrier at 16
slick_rick said:
They are different though
/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 /data -ours
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /data -theirs.
We have /dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /carrier at 16
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Yep. Nearly identical. I flash your ROMs and theirs. I'm on a US Cellular note. Just gotta flash properly. I'm using your stock ROM on my phone. Just takes some know how.
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There has to be, at least, a dev developed tool that will convert 1 notes rom to another. That way a dev can create a rom, then easily spread it to all devices.
I can't imagine making a script or modifying a kitchen to output for the slight differences between phone would be that difficult.
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rawdikrik said:
There has to be, at least, a dev developed tool that will convert 1 notes rom to another. That way a dev can create a rom, then easily spread it to all devices.
I can't imagine making a script or modifying a kitchen to output for the slight differences between phone would be that difficult.
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Yeap, Its called AOSP
Im posting here because Im getting my GN2 monday. Here is a nice little guide on porting roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990589. This was used to port roms from the gsm variants of the s3 to the sprint version. It should be the same process for the notes.
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Yeap, Its called AOSP
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Not really helpful, or what we are talking about here...
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shiftr182 said:
Im posting here because Im getting my GN2 monday. Here is a nice little guide on porting roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990589. This was used to port roms from the gsm variants of the s3 to the sprint version. It should be the same process for the notes.
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This on the other hand... looks promising. If only I wasnt going out of town this weekend...
Here is another one from Chairface, he ported MIU from the verizon GNex to Sprint S3 with CM10 using this http://pastebin.com/Nrhciwyf
I have actually done this method before and it works. It just takes time to work out all the kinks.
ix3u said:
How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
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Should he lie and say your idea is good? would that make you feel better? It won't work. The partitions between the Note variants are different. It not the same as the S3's. Just because you don't understand that doesn't make him an asshole. Also if you are going to curse people out, have the balls to actually spell it correctly
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You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
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Ask anyone that has ever flashed a rom from a different carrier how it worked out for them... Only result I have ever heard of is brick. So forgive me for not kissing your ass because of your stupid idea. The people that are capable of porting roms have either already thought of it and it's not that easy, or its out of the realm of possibility at this point. So all your doing is putting useless thoughts into the heads of people who won't know any better and end up effing their phones. So go suck a boner
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geez enough guys. plenty of useful stuff has been pulled from the multiple variants. thinking outside the box is how we get what we have and grow the community and our devices.
it can't (or would be difficult to) do it
no reason to rip each other apart over it.
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This is posible but is not like flashing att rom and putting sprint modem. You got to configure the rom to make it cdma, I remember back in the htc evo days they made t mobile my touch compatible and others htc European with sense 2.1 compatible, only issue was no 4G
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I have a Samsung Galaxy SIII from AT&T (d2att ), and I have it rooted, running task650's AOKP, and TWRP 2.4.1.0 for recovery. It works fantastic, and I love it I have, however, been trying everything I can think of to try and get ktoonsez's kernel to work on it, for the features that his kernel offers. I am having a funky issue, which according to task, kt, and a few others on the boards, is device-related. It seems that my phone, individually, is the problem. This leads me to my question.
How feasible is it to get AT&T (or Samsung?) to replace my phone, based on the fact that there is something different hardware-wise between mine and the vast majority of other peoples?
It seems that nearly everyone who runs this combination of task and ktoonsez has nothing but good things to say, and I have yet to see anyone gripe about the same issues that I have had, and not be able to fix them, usually by a simple full wipe. I have tried to do full wipes with and without letting Google initialize/restore my account. I have tried going back to stock everything, and trying again. I have made sure to turn off Performance Control, so there should be no conflict there. I have tried setting up my phone in its entirety, restoring information, restoring apps with TiBu, and then installing the kernel. I have tried with and without deleting mpdecision. I am following all of the directions posted per OP for both threads, and with the gapps posted by task himself. Nothing works, and I end up in a glitchy boot loop almost immediately after flashing the kernel, even if my phone was running buttery stable before the flash.
I have come up with a couple things to try tonight, but if they don't work, I would like to pursue getting a new phone to replace this one. Is that an option?
You will need to do a warranty replacement through Samsung unless you have device insurance through att. But then you will be paying the deductable on it.
There are quite a few reports of people in ktoonsez's thread that stated they had to return their device and get a new one for his kernel to work. Not sure you searched good enough. But either way, you are not the first to have a device that cant run his kernel. I can assure you of that.
task650 said:
You will need to do a warranty replacement through Samsung unless you have device insurance through att. But then you will be paying the deductable on it.
There are quite a few reports of people in ktoonsez's thread that stated they had to return their device and get a new one for his kernel to work. Not sure you searched good enough. But either way, you are not the first to have a device that cant run his kernel. I can assure you of that.
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Thank you. I may not have read it well enough Do you mean the deductible through Samsung or AT&T? And ho do I approach the warranty? I know, at least where I work, we wouldn't honor a warranty on something that was used for purposes outside of it's intended use (i.e. rooting). Granted, I don't work for a phone company
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Thank you. I may not have read it well enough Do you mean the deductible through Samsung or AT&T? And ho do I approach the warranty? I know, at least where I work, we wouldn't honor a warranty on something that was used for purposes outside of it's intended use (i.e. rooting). Granted, I don't work for a phone company
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It would be the deductible through AT&T if you have device insurance. If going through Samsung, something would have to be a manufacturers defect in order for them to warrant a replacement device. I don't think either company will replace the device because you can't use a custom kernel. So you would need to get creative on your story before you go either route.
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It would be the deductible through AT&T if you have device insurance. If going through Samsung, something would have to be a manufacturers defect in order for them to warrant a replacement device. I don't think either company will replace the device because you can't use a custom kernel. So you would need to get creative on your story before you go either route.
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Time to get creative lol
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Settling In
I don't know if this could be a factor but, you will experience something commonly called a settling in period after installing a new kernel.
I have been through trying a couple other custom kernels for I747 plus all the progression of KT747 releases for TW ICS and TW JB since 9-23 release and have been through two phones due to warranty replacement. On both phones I have experienced significant settling in glitches for a while after flashing KT's or other kernels. These include crashing on boot, frequent screen freezes after boot, KTweaker settings not sticking, etc. These issues are far more extreme on first install of kernel than when flashing a new release to phone that already has kernel installed. First boot after first install can take about twenty problematic boot attempts to start behaving and it can take two or three days before kernel "settles in" and problems pretty much disappear.
In my feeble little mind, I envision the new kernel having to grow neurons into the guts of the phone hardware.
If you want to run this kernel and your phone will basically boot but, is all glitchy, I would say don't freak out. Have some patience, just keep rebooting, and give it time to settle in. For most the phone will straighten out in a few days.
Hope this helps.
bsam55 said:
I don't know if this could be a factor but, you will experience something commonly called a settling in period after installing a new kernel.
I have been through trying a couple other custom kernels for I747 plus all the progression of KT747 releases for TW ICS and TW JB since 9-23 release and have been through two phones due to warranty replacement. On both phones I have experienced significant settling in glitches for a while after flashing KT's or other kernels. These include crashing on boot, frequent screen freezes after boot, KTweaker settings not sticking, etc. These issues are far more extreme on first install of kernel than when flashing a new release to phone that already has kernel installed. First boot after first install can take about twenty problematic boot attempts to start behaving and it can take two or three days before kernel "settles in" and problems pretty much disappear.
In my feeble little mind, I envision the new kernel having to grow neurons into the guts of the phone hardware.
If you want to run this kernel and your phone will basically boot but, is all glitchy, I would say don't freak out. Have some patience, just keep rebooting, and give it time to settle in. For most the phone will straighten out in a few days.
Hope this helps.
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I suppose that is possibly what's going on with mine, I'll give it a couple more tries
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Just an advice, make sure you restore everything to stock before you do
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pcshano said:
Just an advice, make sure you restore everything to stock before you do
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I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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drinfernoo said:
I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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Just depends on how thorough the at&t rep is. You have to Odin back to stock, triangle away, unroot and factory reset for them not to know at all.
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drinfernoo said:
I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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Do not intentionally brick your device. That could be just as bad as leaving your phone rooted when you take it in (depending if Samsung can see any part of the storage). As far as warranty exchange "excuse" that is on you to decide. Follow the post quoted below to help your chance at warranty exchange. This has been discussed quite a bit all over the place.
hednik said:
Just depends on how thorough the at&t rep is. You have to Odin back to stock, triangle away, unroot and factory reset for them not to know at all.
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You know, I've run tasks rom since it was still 4.1 and have always used the kernel provided in his rom. It runs great, and I wouldn't change it. My battery life and everything else is great. I can get 17 hrs with 3 hrs 34 mins screen time and have 20% battery left. I think trying to get a replacement device just to run a different kernel is absurd... just my .02 cents worth
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You know, I've run tasks rom since it was still 4.1 and have always used the kernel provided in his rom. It runs great, and I wouldn't change it. My battery life and everything else is great. I can get 17 hrs with 3 hrs 34 mins screen time and have 20% battery left. I think trying to get a replacement device just to run a different kernel is absurd... just my .02 cents worth
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I completely agree. I'm on tasks currently using his underwear kernel provided. I've also tried KT's kernel as well. Yes you can get more customization with KT's and his custom governor, but is it worth it to go through all the hassle to get a new device? I would say no. Like I said I've tried both kernels, I'm currently using tasks underwear kernel, I may try KT's again, may not. When I did before, I didn't notice a drastic difference between the two, esp not enough to warrant going through a device replacement.
Consider this. You are running tasks rom with absolutely no issues with the kernel he provides. Is that not good enough? I know it is for me. His rom is absolutely the most stable rom I've ever tried on any device. Remember it's just a phone. Just some food for thought.
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Probably right, but i don't always run task's ROM, either. My favorite ROM so far has actually been ParanoidKANGDroid, but I wanted 4.2.1, so I went to task. I'm actually running PACman right now, and for the time being, even his PC is broken
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No matter which rom you are running, it's crazy to exchange a device (and having to lie to do it) just to run a different kernel... think about it...
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No matter which rom you are running, it's crazy to exchange a device (and having to lie to do it) just to run a different kernel... think about it...
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Of course, but if it allows me more flexibilities and control over my phone and what it does, I'm all over that
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Bricking your phone would be the easiest way to get a new one and I've seen plenty of people accidentally bricking their i747 and getting a new one from Samsung. They won't even check if its rooted or not.
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34556189
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Bricking your phone would be the easiest way to get a new one and I've seen plenty of people accidentally bricking their i747 and getting a new one from Samsung. They won't even check if its rooted or not.
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34556189
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That's a douche bag move.... pain and simple.
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That's a douche bag move.... pain and simple.
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When the s3$ first come out, a lot of people were bricking them. Trying to root or installing an international ROM. I'm pretty sure Samsung staff was aware of that but they still gave free replacement. Some people even got a replacement from att or others carriers for free.
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If I do end up getting a replacement, can I take a nandroid, and restore it to the new phone?
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Hi guys
How to flash rom android 4.1.2 note 2 Verizon here....
Ok steap flashing rom verizon
1.-install rom verizon, not reboot
2.-install modem att
3.-install Saber Kernel att
4.-Reboot ...waitt 3 minut...
5.-Happy rom
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Why are you trying to flash stuff that's not for your device? Puzzles me:what:
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Ok im install this rom verizon jelly beans
You can , not problem ...test for me rom fine ...:beer:
Link ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032447
Screenshot .work fine 100% speed wonderfull rom , amazing
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Ok other rom flashing for note 2 verizon ,on my note 2 att ...
100 % stable work fine ...
Link here ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2392332
Screenshot ..:beer:
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Your lucky it didn't brick ...g
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Lucky.......
No brick ...
Note att CPU/PROCESADOR .. Samsung Exynos 4 Quad 4412 / ARM Cortex-A9
Note 2 Verizon CPU / PROCESADOR ... Samsung Exynos 4 Quad 4412 / ARM Cortex-A9
Not brick ....
Link compared...
http://www.movilcelular.es/comparar...vs-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-sgh-i317-att/553879
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Lucky.......
No brick ...
Note att CPU/PROCESADOR .. Samsung Exynos 4 Quad 4412 / ARM Cortex-A9
Note 2 Verizon CPU / PROCESADOR ... Samsung Exynos 4 Quad 4412 / ARM Cortex-A9
Not brick ....
Link compared...
http://www.movilcelular.es/comparar...vs-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-sgh-i317-att/553879
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It's not just the processor ...rather the radios ...and the fact that ATT uses GSM while Verizon uses CDMA...
Drivers and chips are vastly different ...along with device partitions ...
You are taking risks ...but hey ...it's your phone ...and you are free to flash whatever you want...
But not this guy ...g
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gregsarg said:
It's not just the processor ...rather the radios ...and the fact that ATT uses GSM while Verizon uses CDMA...
Drivers and chips are vastly different ...along with device partitions ...
You are taking risks ...but hey ...it's your phone ...and you are free to flash whatever you want...
But not this guy ...g
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+1 brotha
As my buddy @softballjunkee said,
the force is strong with Yoda...
Ya got some cahones' flashing those other Rom's...
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if not take risks you never know beyond the doors .. life is risk and challenges, there to face ......lol
flashing two roms is a matter of luck .. -?
mataflakitas said:
if not take risks you never know beyond the doors .. life is risk and challenges, there to face ......lol
flashing two roms is a matter of luck .. -?
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.....luck is irrelevant.....
Not a single developer on this site. ..that I've been able to find. ..is advising users to flash roms not intended for their respective device. ..
Do you suppose that is luck as well ??
I submit that you have not pushed your device far enough (yet) with incompatible software to do any permanent damage. ..
But if you believe luck will carry you through then by all means. ..proceed. ..
I choose the years of experience our development team has provided. ..
And the code they rely on. ..
If Verizon devices and ATT devices were the same. ..or compatible. ..then our section would include them together. ..
I congratulate you for your bravery...but would advise those users reading this to think twice before attempting the installation of Verizon software on the ATT device. ..as you may not be so lucky. ...
I encourage the advancement of our devices. ..but I ultimately fail to find any possible benefit in what you are doing that outweighs the risks associated with your endeavors. ..
Please enlighten me...
In the meantime. ..I'll continue the use of approved software. ..as I'm not willing to waste $799.00 trying to beat proven science. ....
Best of luck to you. ..g
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...thanks my friend ....:thumbup::beer:
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As long as you make sure you flash an att modem and kernel you will have no issues, actually the kernel would even work just dont ever flash the wrong modem or you will have a hard brick. Ive done this several times myself and have never had an issue. It was the same when I had my s3, you could flash any verizon or sprint rom as long as you flashed proper modem and kernel before rebooting. I used to love jelly beans on my s3, was the best rom I tried so I will be flashing this as soon as download is done :good:
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As long as you make sure you flash an att modem and kernel you will have no issues, actually the kernel would even work just dont ever flash the wrong modem or you will have a hard brick. Ive done this several times myself and have never had an issue. It was the same when I had my s3, you could flash any verizon or sprint rom as long as you flashed proper modem and kernel before rebooting. I used to love jelly beans on my s3, was the best rom I tried so I will be flashing this as soon as download is done :good:
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Yes yes yes man is true ...how install OP ....
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It's true though, I've flashed many other Roms from different carriers..Not many people are even aware from those methods that it does work. Am not saying all of them,but the ones I have tried were successful.
Be careful posting such advice out in the wild ...as first time flashers may get confused as too which rom, radio, and kernel combinations are safe and which are not..
Thus we rely on our developers to package files specific to our devices ...and the safest methods to incorporate them...
I suggest that if your plan is to mix and match software's on this or any device ...it would be prudent to handle those conversations in the form of private massages ...until a proven method is posted ...
I've seen 5 device bricks this week ...and in 3 of those cases the user was confused as to whether or not the correct software and methods were used...
Threads holding names like "use Verizon software on ATT"...only serve to add confusion in the minds of our user base...
Bricks don't just happen ....they are created when users make mistakes by either not following directions ...or using incompatible software ...or a combination of the two ...(add confusion here )...
As stated above ....only some combinations will work ...not all...even when using the posted Verizon software....so if you truly want to protect your reputation and avoid sending folks down to brickville....then post which software combinations are safe only after confirmation from a defined and listed user base ...which will allow contact between users should problems arise ...
Right now it's only ..."this works ..so run it"...
So far...no one has posted here claiming that these methods bricked a device ....but the odds are stacking up every day that someone will ...
Please provide testing results with a clearly defined list of working software for users to draw from ...and how to install it properly...
And those users acting as testers should be included in the thread as well ....
And the most important statement of all should be the first line in the thread ...
"Use this software at your own risk"..!!!
I'm not trying to cause issues in your thread ...I'm simply trying to protect you ...and the many devices that your thread will influence...g
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GPS?
Does your GPS work? I have been running AT&T slimbean on my Note ii for about a week or so without GPS lock then ran across your thread.
Ive tried Various fixes like Scotts GPS ect but no luck. Just Curious. Thanks.
Did you take your phone apart? When I replaced my screen my gps no longer worked. It was because I accidentally broke the gps antenna connection on the main board. I had to replace the board.
This is other rom for verizon note2 flasing for me chek in ...
Link this Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43385809
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I think there is a big possibilities flashing rom from verizon as long as they used att modem and att kernel and hardware wise they had some similarities and also roms like jedi and cleanrom also supports multi carrier...just my two cents
Edit: I'm running AT&T Stock UCAMH3 DeOdex but i'm using Saber Kernel 46- from Jedi Master 18 from Tmobile just flashed yesterday see screen my shot and it works fine too.
Man, a bunch of timid little girls... This is XDA. It was BUILT on peole doing things they weren't supposed to do & trying things new that nobody else would try. How do you think itsme developed all the tools that nearly every kitchen for the last decade has been based on was created? The site is XDA developers & until the iPhone & the influx of cheap smartphones, all the members were developers, serious hobbyists or lurkers. What anyone tries to do or decides not to do is up to them. You wouldn't spend $200,000.00 on timber & hardware to build your dream house if you have never swung a hammer in life, same applies here. It is common sense & people with it learn before they do or are willing to take risk & learn as they do. Heck, back in the day, I bought a lot of six Kaisers just to brick, so that I could work with Jocky on a way to revive bricks, i.e. FrankenKaiser...
In this particular instance, the device are essentially identical. That opens the door for a lot of cross compatibility. Manufacturers like Qualcomm are starting to produce chips (radio) that support numerous bands. Some of the latest have the ability to support as many as 23 different LTE bands. This is good for them, less revisions equal less production costs, & it is good for us as well, since it means more cross compatibility.
Really, Samsung lately has been making devices pretty compatible & unless you are messing with the boot or modem partition, it is pretty hard to make a brick.
Of course, the first thing anyone should ask themselves is WHY THEY ARE DOING THIS? & maybe watch this video:
Like The Heading Can We Flash At&t Roms because we flash slimbean From At&t And I Have Read That Both types of phones are alike?
I never had to flash ROMs from other carrier coz we have all the best roms here... But u can flash ROMs from at&t as long as u flash a tmobile kernel rite after u flash ur ROM.....
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Just thought I'd add a quick statement to that. Yes you can flash AT&T roms to our T999. But unless you consider yourself experienced with the S3 model T999, I would just stick with what we already have here. You can't just flash and have them work 100%. Often there are different tweaks or changes that need to be made.
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Just thought I'd add a quick statement to that. Yes you can flash AT&T roms to our T999. But unless you consider yourself experienced with the S3 model T999, I would just stick with what we already have here. You can't just flash and have them work 100%. Often there are different tweaks or changes that need to be made.
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But at least with the Dandroid ROM, built on S3Rx, you can flash the AT&T Stock MG2 kernel.
Yup, AT&T kernels are compatible with our T999. In fact, some of the custom ones are AT&T kernels just ported over here. At least they were at one time. Haven't looked in a while.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Yup, AT&T kernels are compatible with our T999. In fact, some of the custom ones are AT&T kernels just ported over here. At least they were at one time. Haven't looked in a while.
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Hey doc Glad to see that you are still here.
I have flash several roms from att out of the box working. Like you said att kernels are compatible. Sprint, verizon roms have to do some tweaking as for to get data working etc but it still fun to do with.
Been a while since I really did something but slowly doing stuff when the time is right.
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