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Forgive me if this is a ridiculous question. I have been rooting/modding since I got my first Android but I have always had the same carrier. So can someone explain what would happen if we flashed a ROM from the Samsung galaxy s 2 forum on to an eg4t? Is it just hardware differences that keep things like that from being possible or is there some other reason.
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Very bad things. There have been reports of people not even being able to get their phones into download mode to ODIN stock .tars (a true brick).
Just don't do it to be safe.

garradalexanderkiss said:
Forgive me if this is a ridiculous question. I have been rooting/modding since I got my first Android but I have always had the same carrier. So can someone explain what would happen if we flashed a ROM from the Samsung galaxy s 2 forum on to an eg4t? Is it just hardware differences that keep things like that from being possible or is there some other reason.
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Flashing ROMs from the International SGS2 or a another variant won't work. It's due to a number of reasons but long story short, safe yourself the trouble and don't even try. I doubt you would permanently brick you device (I read the comment above me and looks like there is a chance of BRICKING your device)..
Our Epic Touches have different radios (CDMA vs. GSM), WiMax, etc. so the kernel, ROMs and modems are different..

[IDEA] Port international firmware/ROM's to Sprint Note 2?

Considering the similarities between the domestic variants of the Note 2 and their international counterparts, would anyone be willing to test some of the success that the folks over in the AT&T forum have had with porting the international N7100/N7105 firmware/ROM's over to the Sprint Note 2
Check out these two threads over in the AT&T forum and see what you all think:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016575
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018411
The basic gist of the procedure is to use a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP to flash a stock N7100/N7105 firmware, and then flash your carrier specific modem/kernel.
Why would anyone want to do this? Well, for starters, you would benefit from built-in stock-supported tethering, and a few other features that carriers disable (YMMV). But mainly this means that the domestic versions of the Note 2 can benefit from the development of the international versions! So, when the latest version of Android comes out for the rest of the world, we aren't stuck here waiting for our carrier to catch up to everyone else...
So what do you all think? Anyone willing to try?
Clarification: Just so everyone is on the same page here, I want to stress that, while this process is successful on both the AT&T and T-Mobile GN2's, this is VERY dangerous if you do not know what you are doing. I would NOT recommend anyone try this unless you are confident in your abilities to recover from a brick situation.
Again, if you are even REMOTELY interested in trying this out on your own, don't even think about bothering with it unless you absolutely know what you are doing! I take no responsibility for any bricks that come from someone trying this without the proper experience and know-how. You have been warned!

it works on the ATT variant because it and the international are both GSM. We are CDMA, i doubt that it would be as easy. Using verizon ROMs might be a different story though.
Also this ------------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992947

skyjedi said:
it works on the ATT variant because it and the international are both GSM. We are CDMA, i doubt that it would be as easy. Using verizon ROMs might be a different story though.
Also maybe Q&A not general?
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See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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No the partitions are completely different also .... so flashing the international roms could definitely brick it
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ix3u said:
How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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Not a single one in the Q&A section either.

This thread is dangerous, dont normally say that, but PLEASE dont encourage (or even put the idea in peoples heads) that they should flash something for a different phone. What you described is NOT porting. Your asking for a brick flashing different firmware. And why dont YOU try it then get back to us....on your computer, cus your phone will be a paperweight
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Epix4G said:
No the partitions are completely different also .... so flashing the international roms could definitely brick it
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Partitions aren't completely. They are almost identical. You just need to flash the OS properly.
sleshepic said:
This thread is dangerous, dont normally say that, but PLEASE dont encourage (or even put the idea in peoples heads) that they should flash something for a different phone. What you described is NOT porting. Your asking for a brick flashing different firmware. And why dont YOU try it then get back to us....on your computer, cus your phone will be a paperweight
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Not recommended for sure. At least for beginners. You can flash their stock ROMs is you flash properly flash them and make sure there's no radio and that you use your stock kernel.
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na7q said:
Partitions aren't completely. They are almost identical. You just need to flash the OS properly.
Not recommended for sure. At least for beginners. You can flash their stock ROMs is you flash properly flash them and make sure there's no radio and that you use your stock kernel.
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They are different though
/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 /data -ours
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /data -theirs.
We have /dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /carrier at 16

slick_rick said:
They are different though
/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 /data -ours
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /data -theirs.
We have /dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /carrier at 16
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Yep. Nearly identical. I flash your ROMs and theirs. I'm on a US Cellular note. Just gotta flash properly. I'm using your stock ROM on my phone. Just takes some know how.
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There has to be, at least, a dev developed tool that will convert 1 notes rom to another. That way a dev can create a rom, then easily spread it to all devices.
I can't imagine making a script or modifying a kitchen to output for the slight differences between phone would be that difficult.
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rawdikrik said:
There has to be, at least, a dev developed tool that will convert 1 notes rom to another. That way a dev can create a rom, then easily spread it to all devices.
I can't imagine making a script or modifying a kitchen to output for the slight differences between phone would be that difficult.
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Yeap, Its called AOSP

Im posting here because Im getting my GN2 monday. Here is a nice little guide on porting roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990589. This was used to port roms from the gsm variants of the s3 to the sprint version. It should be the same process for the notes.

skyjedi said:
Yeap, Its called AOSP
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Not really helpful, or what we are talking about here...
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shiftr182 said:
Im posting here because Im getting my GN2 monday. Here is a nice little guide on porting roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990589. This was used to port roms from the gsm variants of the s3 to the sprint version. It should be the same process for the notes.
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This on the other hand... looks promising. If only I wasnt going out of town this weekend...

Here is another one from Chairface, he ported MIU from the verizon GNex to Sprint S3 with CM10 using this http://pastebin.com/Nrhciwyf
I have actually done this method before and it works. It just takes time to work out all the kinks.

ix3u said:
How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
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Should he lie and say your idea is good? would that make you feel better? It won't work. The partitions between the Note variants are different. It not the same as the S3's. Just because you don't understand that doesn't make him an asshole. Also if you are going to curse people out, have the balls to actually spell it correctly
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
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Ask anyone that has ever flashed a rom from a different carrier how it worked out for them... Only result I have ever heard of is brick. So forgive me for not kissing your ass because of your stupid idea. The people that are capable of porting roms have either already thought of it and it's not that easy, or its out of the realm of possibility at this point. So all your doing is putting useless thoughts into the heads of people who won't know any better and end up effing their phones. So go suck a boner
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geez enough guys. plenty of useful stuff has been pulled from the multiple variants. thinking outside the box is how we get what we have and grow the community and our devices.
it can't (or would be difficult to) do it
no reason to rip each other apart over it.
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This is posible but is not like flashing att rom and putting sprint modem. You got to configure the rom to make it cdma, I remember back in the htc evo days they made t mobile my touch compatible and others htc European with sense 2.1 compatible, only issue was no 4G
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International I9505 Rom working on T-Mobile S4 M919!!

So I went ahead and flashed the i9505 Wanam Rom from here and it works great on my M919. The rom doesn't have a modem so I figured it would be safe and sure enough it was. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283194
No wipe is required either. I simply flashed it using CWM and I now have a GT-I9505 model with all T-Mo bloatware gone! I really like the blue dialer on this too!
You will get reboot notifications, to remove that simply download "Bloatware Freezer" from Playstore and freeze the app called SEAndroid. That should take care of it.

Oh man... Fully functional though? I'd imagine Wifi Calling would be a goner, not that I ever use it anyway...
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pakraider said:
Oh man... Fully functional though? I'd imagine Wifi Calling would be a goner, not that I ever use it anyway...
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No Tmo features...obviously.
Yes, a lot of people don't realize their options for goodies go beyond just the specific m919 forum. Check out the general international S4 I9505 forums. It's were I spend most my time.
Development is lagging for the m919 variant. There are only a few ROMs & choices, with slow updates.... and plenty of time has passed since release, so I'm not sure how much better it will get. It's the one negative part about Sammy devices....fragmentation of the same model. It would be nice to see a majority of elite Devs working on the same model....like the One.
MANY of the mods/themes/ROMs etc...work great with our device. The radio is the only difference between various 9505 models.
Cheers!

Awesome. But who puts a modem in custom roms now days? Lol Now that I can see that this phone is actually the same hardware as the international we can have roms from there too..... In this case if a leak of a newer android update comes out we can have it port over. And not wait for tmobile,,,
If that the case than AT&T, VERIZON, AND SPRINT can be ported all like on the s3 but the fun part is the even international too

I hope this all works so far I'm very happy with wicked but more options are never a bad thing
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Wow I had no idea I could use i9505 roms. I thought i may be able to but wasn't sure. Awesome.

Working great so far. Only problem I noticed so far was constant notification from SEAndroid. I simply freezed it using bloatware freezer from Playstore.

Hoggles said:
No Tmo features...obviously.
Yes, a lot of people don't realize their options for goodies go beyond just the specific m919 forum. Check out the general international S4 I9505 forums. It's were I spend most my time.
Development is lagging for the m919 variant. There are only a few ROMs & choices, with slow updates.... and plenty of time has passed since release, so I'm not sure how much better it will get. It's the one negative part about Sammy devices....fragmentation of the same model. It would be nice to see a majority of elite Devs working on the same model....like the One.
MANY of the mods/themes/ROMs etc...work great with our device. The radio is the only difference between various 9505 models.
Cheers!
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lol give us more time, mate. would you rather we release untested ROMs? i'm sure there are a number of us floating around here that have a ROM we can put out right this second but it is good practice to test first and ensure there are no issues. this can take a little bit. i myself am in testing phase. maybe the phone has been out a while, but i personally have only had one for 2 and a half weeks. a lot of stuff in the other sections will be ported over. i have to get a good working and stable base out first before i start adding in more tweaks that will seemingly overwhelm most typical users.
also, please be weary of flashing an entire ROM from i9505 section. if there are CSC bits contained within it, you won't have a signal like you're supposed to.

Totally agree with the previous poster. These things take time to make.
With that said this is good news. Hopefully, we can get a dev to port these over with TMO features & Csc files.
I know AT&T GN2 had an awesome dev that ported Int GN2 over with options for TMO, AT&T & Canadian carriers.
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so we could flash any rom from international version?

chiensibut said:
so we could flash any rom from international version?
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not necessarily. It's probably a good idea to ask the OP

Not any roms from the i9500.. only the i9505 as we share the quad-core processor
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Anyone know if the international version supports 2 way call recording out of the box?
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i flashed one of their rom but got a app permission that tell you to reboot the phone, how do i fix that

chiensibut said:
i flashed one of their rom but got a app permission that tell you to reboot the phone, how do i fix that
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Go into system/app and delte everything that begins with knox
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ktetreault14 said:
Go into system/app and delte everything that begins with knox
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No don't do this. Simply download "Bloatware Freezer" from Playstore and freeze the app called SEAndroid. That should take care of it.

chiensibut said:
so we could flash any rom from international version?
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Any ROM made for I9505, you can use. Make sure the ROM doesn't have a modem baked into it (ROMs usually don't, but you must make sure). You will then have to download and app called "Bloatware Freezer" from Play Store and freeze the system app called 'SEAndroid'

thank for the tip mate
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Works great, even support video call like you see in the Korean dramas. Too bad no US provider supports that

Any way if we manually added or flashed the T-Mobile bloat we could use visual voicemail at least?
Also do you feel that the battery life and overall performance is better in these ROMs?
Can we still use 4g/ 4g lte with these ROMs automatically or do we need to mess with the APN to a certain extent?
Thank you. I am considering flashing because I'm loving those ROMs and themes in the international forums especially that dark android theme that doesn't work well with our phones
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OMG Galaxy s4 Kernel Source Code Dropped

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...e-files-is-this-the-google-edition-galaxy-s4/
Sorry if this is a super noob question/Thought
If We Download This And Flash It In The "Download Target" Screen or "Download Mode" (power + Volume Down + Home Button) Does This Mean I Can Upgrade To Google edition (Or Are we somewhat close to the port) ?:fingers-crossed:
Once again i apologize for the thought:angel:

Slicktune said:
75 views and no feedback? Damnnn..:thumbdown:
I thought we were excited about this. ..
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I would not expect too much interest in a kernel that can't be used on this device for TMo service.

luckyduck69 said:
This has "I9505" in the link. What is the model number of you T-Mobile GS4?
Second thought, please go ahead & flash it. Then post back here with the results.
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Would be funny but that's kinda mean to break a $650 device o.0
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luckyduck69 said:
This has "I9505" in the link. What is the model number of you T-Mobile GS4?
Second thought, please go ahead & flash it. Then post back here with the results.
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First off, you should not even joke about telling someone to flash something they shouldn't. EVER. Some people will take you seriously. Please don't do that...
Second... you and others should realize by now that our M919 can flash 95% of all software items made for the international i9505. M919 is simply the Tmo version of the 9505, as you should know....the hardware is identical. So many people still think they are different phones just because ours say M919. The only catch is you can never flash another carriers modem...it's that simple.
99% of the ROMs from the international i9505 forums and all other carriers...Verizon, AT&T, Sprint etc, run perfectly on our M919....ya just gotta flash a universal kernel directly after flashing the i9505 ROM....ie, Faux or Ktoonez etc. Aside from people who have to have certain Tmo specific software (WiFI calling, visual VM etc)...I have no idea why people are still using the old and outdated MDL firmware.
To the OP...wait for the ROM and kernel to be released in the international forums and then wait again for Faux or Ktoonez to make the kernel universally compatible with multiple variants of the i9505.
Seems there are still peeps out there that think they are stuck to using only Tmo M919 software. I'm surprised more Tmo users are not using the latest and greatest firmware for the i9505. Smearing, camera lag...you name it, was fixed long ago on the international firmware.
My M919 is FLYING with Wanam's 1.2 MF2 ROM, Faux v6m kernel.

@ Hoggles
Thanks for that informative post.
Regarding the WanamLite ROM you installed, is Call Recording operating properly?
Skvalex from CallRecorder asked me to try this
http://galaxys4root.com/t-mobile-ga...i9505attt-mobilecanadianapp2sdcall-recording/
to see if CallRecorder works. It's version 1.1 but I read it may break 4G LTE.
I see the ROM you installed is 1.2 and just wanted to know what your experience was with either the call recording feature native to that ROM, or if you've perhaps tried CallRecorder, and if 4G LTE is working without issue.

@ luckyduck69
The op was just trying to be helpful.
Everyone is learning, and not just on xda, but in life in general.
Hoggles just didn't want the op or anyone else to Bork their new, expensive S4 and was passionate about that.
As we all know, sometimes things are said that are taken literally, and considering their are millions of xda members, there may have been several that would have flashed something they're not supposed to, and have a brick in their hands.
The above is just my observation. Nothing personal

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To the OP...wait for the ROM and kernel to be released in the international forums and then wait again for Faux or Ktoonez to make the kernel universally compatible with multiple variants of the i9505.
Seems there are still peeps out there that think they are stuck to using only Tmo M919 software. I'm surprised more Tmo users are not using the latest and greatest firmware for the i9505. Smearing, camera lag...you name it, was fixed long ago on the international firmware.
My M919 is FLYING with Wanam's 1.2 MF2 ROM, Faux v6m kernel.
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Thanks my brother, I appreciate you understanding my point of view
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S4 4.3 update coming in october

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
So how likely are we to get this update quickly since T-Mobile seems to have forgotten about our updates so far. Really want apps2sd already with Wi-Fi calling
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
So how likely are we to get this update quickly since T-Mobile seems to have forgotten about our updates so far. Really want apps2sd already with WiJane-Fi calling
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Sorry bro but I wouldn't hold my breath for any tmobile update. They always have some lame excuse like we're testing for months and months...good news is you can have 4.3 and apps to sd NOW if you root and install a custom rom. Look in the roms change log and it will tell you if its 4.3 and all other features it has. i have apps to sd now with my current rom. So if you don't want to wait for God knows how long you can get these things you want now by rooting. Also you can change back to stock and unroot if you like so its not a permanent thing. There are some wonderful how to root threads in tmobile android development section. Look in the forum for tmobile Samsung galaxy and find the development section where the roms are kept and you should find a how to guide.read read read and when your comfortable with the procedure proceed to root your device. You won't regret it for a second. Best wishes. Otherwise you can wait on tmobile which is likely just going to frusterate you. Ive been with tmobile ten years and my only complaint is their update process.its always one excuse after another why we're not getting our update. So you do have options. You can root and run these things now or wait on tmobile. Its up to you. Best wishes. If your already rooted and just wondering when it will come out my guess is after a newer device is announced. Tmobile is awful when it comes to updates!

Surprisingly the moto x on Tmobile was the first to get the camera fix update. But I guess it's more a patch than an update.
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Sorry bro but I wouldn't hold my breath for any tmobile update. They always have some lame excuse like we're testing for months and months...good news is you can have 4.3 and apps to sd NOW if you root and install a custom rom. Look in the roms change log and it will tell you if its 4.3 and all other features it has. i have apps to sd now with my current rom. So if you don't want to wait for God knows how long you can get these things you want now by rooting. Also you can change back to stock and unroot if you like so its not a permanent thing. There are some wonderful how to root threads in tmobile android development section. Look in the forum for tmobile Samsung galaxy and find the development section where the roms are kept and you should find a how to guide.read read read and when your comfortable with the procedure proceed to root your device. You won't regret it for a second. Best wishes. Otherwise you can wait on tmobile which is likely just going to frusterate you. Ive been with tmobile ten years and my only complaint is their update process.its always one excuse after another why we're not getting our update. So you do have options. You can root and run these things now or wait on tmobile. Its up to you. Best wishes. If your already rooted and just wondering when it will come out my guess is after a newer device is announced. Tmobile is awful when it comes to updates!
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What ticks me off is that this slow update crap is one of the reasons I left Verizon, only to find out it's an issue with t mobile.
Right now I am seriously considering the Nexus 5. For now, thank God I am rooted.

Yes I understand. I went through this with my htc and it makes me furious. It is ALWAYS the same excuse. We're testing and it might take awhile. Its total bs. I honestly think its a marketing strategy of sorts to hold the update as long as possible until the latest and greatest comes out. Then we no longer even care about the update and want to move on..I just don't know why they are this way. I've been with tmobile ten years and I've seen this over and over. Always the same excuse.its really my only complaint about the company. They just won't give us our updates ever so small or large. Until we don't care anymore because we're moving on to something else anyway. Its ridicoulas. So many complain but it seems they turn a deaf ear to our pleas.i was hoping this device would be different and they would send out the update in a timely manner. But its looking like that's not the case. Very frustrating. ..

If you really want bleeding edge updates, check out what happened to the 2013 Nexus 7 and its updates: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380866
It's bad enough when a tablet reboots randomly; I can't imagine a primary communication device like a smartphone doing the same... you know, like in the middle of a phone call.

I agree with realsis, don't count on T-Mobile. Right now you have 4.3 roms but they might not be perfect, I'm sure when Samsung releases the update with Touchwiz and everything, someone will figure out how to port the features to our S4. This seems like it's been repeated a million times, but latest updates can only come from 2 sources: XDA or directly from Google for Nexus devices.
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As soon as the internatinal i9505 galaxy s4 4.3 is realesed we will be able to install it becuase we run the same hardware so thats the good thing
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Sorry but this thread is funny and painful. We know tmobile employees are too dumb to rely on them for software

I'd honestly have a hard time believing that Samsung isn't going to be pushing the providers HARD to get the update out. They've got watches to sell...

Toleraen said:
I'd honestly have a hard time believing that Samsung isn't going to be pushing the providers HARD to get the update out. They've got watches to sell...
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That's a good point, but i dont think the carriers care.
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Pray for the update in Oct 2014

Im sure not waiting till october 2014 for this update. hopefully I'll have jumped over to something else. By that time. .in the meantime I'm going to enjoy what we have available here on xda... tmobile ALWAYS uses the same excuse every update. "Oh were testing it" or " there was a issue with it" having been with tmobile ten years ive heard this over and over. Different device SAME story. This might sound odd but I think they hold their updates as a sort of marketing strategy. They will wait till something even greater is released by the time the updates comes out its so old it does not matter and we jump ship to the latest and greatest... think about it..if they gave our updates as they should be given we might actually be happy with our device therefore less likely to buy the latest and greatest new device... I dont know I can't help but think that they hold these updstes for their OWN reasons.. hopefully I'm wrong but ive seen this before....

Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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nymikey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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No the watch will be compatible with the s3 s4 and note 2 IF they are updated by T-Mobile/Samsung to 4.3.
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They wouldn't do that as marketing strategy because the only people that care about updates are people that know a lot about the phone so if they continued to never update any phones customers would eventually go to other carriers that care about updates versus buying a new phone again that will never get updated
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nymikey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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I still think Samsung is in a nice position (in regards to market-share) to push the telcos to release the update. Seems kind of silly anyway since Samsung are the ones creating the update. One leak to SamMobile would put the pressure back on T-Mobile. Samsung has a lot more to gain from watch sales with multiple compatible devices in the wild than they would hoping that people would upgrade to a N3 AND get the watch.
I'll probably still be running CM, but it'll be nice to have an official 4.3 release

I saw a thread somewhere on xda an hour ago about a leaked Sammy 4.3 for the i9500/i9505 trying to find it again to share the link.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
[GT-I9505][Leaked firmware] I9505XXUEMI8 (Android 4.3) - Open Europe (OXA) [01-10-13]
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jds3118 said:
I saw a thread somewhere on xda an hour ago about a leaked Sammy 4.3 for the i9500/i9505 trying to find it again to share the link.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
[GT-I9505][Leaked firmware] I9505XXUEMI8 (Android 4.3) - Open Europe (OXA) [01-10-13]
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I saw this and was wondering is there anything special one needs to do before flashing. Like should I wait for a CWM rom or can I just use the download as is?

Dustin.M650 said:
I saw this and was wondering is there anything special one needs to do before flashing. Like should I wait for a CWM rom or can I just use the download as is?
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Not sure haven't tried it yet lol but from reading the thread I believe if u flash without the new bl file it should work maybe a more experienced dev can work their magic for us. :thumbup:
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