I have a couple of questions regarding some options under "Developer Options" in the settings menu. The first questions I have is regarding GPU Rendering. Should we enable it and has anyone noticed any positive/negative effects after enabling it? The next question I have is about the option to limit background processes. I have been limiting the processes to 4 but it seems like every time I go back into this sub menu. it is always back to it's stock setting of "Standard Limit'. Does anyone know how to make it stay on 4?
Force gpu rendering in theory makes ui more responsive and fluid, but if apps are not specifically coded for that, they can look weird with black bars and abnormal colors. I noticed this in few apps and turned it off. I am not sure why ur background process number is not sticking, but honestly u will be more happy if u leave it at default coz with 2 gb ram there is enough memory to run all ur background services and some more.
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jrwingate6 said:
I have a couple of questions regarding some options under "Developer Options" in the settings menu. The first questions I have is regarding GPU Rendering. Should we enable it and has anyone noticed any positive/negative effects after enabling it? The next question I have is about the option to limit background processes. I have been limiting the processes to 4 but it seems like every time I go back into this sub menu. it is always back to it's stock setting of "Standard Limit'. Does anyone know how to make it stay on 4?
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Dude my background processes keep reverting back to i noticed when i went back in i know it stuck for me on complete stock but i am on free gs3 rom right now and think it might be something conflicting with the modified build.prop tweaks he may have in there. ??? Anyways that switched to limiting 4 background processes and putting window animation and transition animation to 0.5 i noticed a difference . Although i dont really think our phones need this because of the 2gb of ram now maybe the g2x did and as far as gpu rendering u will only notice a difference in some apps that are optimized for this. If not u will notice some artifacts on the screen thats usually your first hint to switch it off because it isnt playing nicely with that particular App. But yes especially in some games u should notice a slight difference. Again if it was the g2x having no hardware accelaration then having it u saw a big difference....our gs3's our such beasts that its minimal to our eyes
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Dude my background processes keep reverting back to i noticed when i went back in i know it stuck for me on complete stock but i am on free gs3 rom right now and think it might be something conflicting with the modified build.prop tweaks he may have in there. ??? Anyways that switched to limiting 4 background processes and putting window animation and transition animation to 0.5 i noticed a difference . Although i dont really think our phones need this because of the 2gb of ram now maybe the g2x did and as far as gpu rendering u will only notice a difference in some apps that are optimized for this. If not u will notice some artifacts on the screen thats usually your first hint to switch it off because it isnt playing nicely with that particular App. But yes especially in some games u should notice a slight difference. Again if it was the g2x having no hardware accelaration then having it u saw a big difference....our gs3's our such beasts that its minimal to our eyes
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the processes reset on mine too. This happened on my amaze too. It's ICS doing it not just our phone.
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Hi i found an app called auto killer memory which ive been running for a while. this app has worked wonders for my wilderbeast, its on fire. so ive been tampering alot with things but this seems to have stabalised my phone loads. presets i set to lost, enabled advance mode,apply at boot,ticked all system tweaks and of course when promted enabled super user. my phone is now running sweet and battery has improved too. i dont know if this makes any sense but i have noticed a difference. whoop whoop. am i over optimistic that this works the same as the v6 super charger/juwes ram optimiser ???
Ok I've ammended my settings within this app after doing some research And in memory values I'm now running at 6/10/16/100/120/160 to keep my phone running snappppppy. To explain the values in brief...... if free memory goes below 160mb my phone starts to kill empty apps etc etc as free memory goes below next value the phone starts to kill corresponding apps. Kind of makes sense to me now. Ok I know my settings makes the phone kill more frequently but its damn snappy now,and it can lower the oom settings by long pressing the app in processes section you wish to lower and choosing lower oom. Lowering the oom basically gives the app less chance of being killed.
Personally I haven't had a low memory situation since I rooted and installed cm7, the app your talking about I have installed after reading one of your other posts about it, I presume that it would work the same way as juwes after setting the low memory values, I don't use those settings with it though as I have juwes script installed, the other tweaks seem fine but again I think I had some of them covered from editing my build.prop (still have work to do on that though) and a few other little things, I can't knock this app though as it does seem to have made my battery last a bit longer since installing yesterday, I'd personally rather change the settings myself than have yet another app doing it for me but until I figure which setting seems to be helping my battery out I'll keep it installed.
A couple of other apps which might help you keep it smooth,
Autostarts- I swear by this app its one of my best buys from the market, why use a task killer when you can just stop the app starting in the first place??
Fast reboot pro- after time apps hold memory which they don't really need, hit this and it'll quickly reboot everything (unless you tell it to leave something alone) freeing up spare ram.
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Cheers for info,really happy with this app at the moment.by the sounds of things its doing similar job to other script mods,which I can't get working cos of s - off issue. Posted this for s on users benefit. Hope it helps others.
Edit my settings. Read 1st post.
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The only problems I see with having higher settings are if it closes something you use regular it'll be slower to open that app, I'd rather keep them set low and have apps open quickly.
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Scratch0805 said:
The only problems I see with having higher settings are if it closes something you use regular it'll be slower to open that app, I'd rather keep them set low and have apps open quickly.
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I agree but this app lets you temporary lower the oom level for apps,so I just lower oom on most important. Long click on process or service and to lower.
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Does it?..........I didn't spot that nice find!!
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Yep,long click app in service or process then choose to lower oom.it resets if you reboot so get your settings desired then leave by pressing home button.
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whats up with these settings for the pages? what do these settings change?
atm i have these settings:
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gozzaa said:
whats up with these settings for the pages? what do these settings change?
atm i have these settings:
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Change the view from pages to mb and these are the values when it will start killing processes etc. Ie. When your memory gets to the amount your phone starts freeing up starting with the highest setting (empty apps)
Its all explained above,just that you have the pages view instead of mbs.
Quote " its healthy to have enemies, it means you've stood up for something you believe in "
ahh the pagesettings are the same as the MB ones?
i thought its two different things
thanks for the explanation!
btw. do you still use the same settings?
Yes to this day I still use this app even though I'm now s-off with the settings I posted,I will just double check and ammend if needed on 1st post.
" once its gone,its GONE."
slymobi said:
am i over optimistic that this works the same as the v6 super charger/juwes ram optimiser ???
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I used to use that too and I felt some differance too but I think you have to open the program every boot. But some told me that it isn't just powerful as Supercharger so I deleted the optimiser and tried Supercharged and got a bootloop instead. I didn't get it to work but I believe that Supercharger is a better solution.
zephyri-xr said:
I used to use that too and I felt some differance too but I think you have to open the program every boot. But some told me that it isn't just powerful as Supercharger so I deleted the optimiser and tried Supercharged and got a bootloop instead. I didn't get it to work but I believe that Supercharger is a better solution.
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i tried supercharger and juuwes but had issues which i think were specific to me but one of the issues was bootlooping from supercharger as well as other things. im not saying one is better than the other but as you and myself had issues with one of the mods then its an alternative for others to use. i prefer this as you get to control the settings and mods yourself from the app. also this is available for s-on whilst the others i believe need s-off.
zephyri-xr said:
I used to use that too and I felt some differance too but I think you have to open the program every boot. But some told me that it isn't just powerful as Supercharger so I deleted the optimiser and tried Supercharged and got a bootloop instead. I didn't get it to work but I believe that Supercharger is a better solution.
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I got a boot loop from supercharger. I had to wipe my phone and start again from an RUU as all my previous backups became corrupted. Nightmare. TBH in the few days that it did work, i saw/felt no difference.
Using CM_7.1.0.1 probably wouldnt advise to use the supercharge, CM_7 minfree values are set to a pretty good level to keep things in order i think
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Hi i found an app called auto killer memory which ive been running for a while. this app has worked wonders for my wilderbeast, its on fire. so ive been tampering alot with things but this seems to have stabalised my phone loads. presets i set to lost, enabled advance mode,apply at boot,ticked all system tweaks and of course when promted enabled super user. my phone is now running sweet and battery has improved too. i dont know if this makes any sense but i have noticed a difference. whoop whoop. am i over optimistic that this works the same as the v6 super charger/juwes ram optimiser ???
Ok I've ammended my settings within this app after doing some research And in memory values I'm now running at 6/10/16/100/120/160 to keep my phone running snappppppy. To explain the values in brief...... if free memory goes below 160mb my phone starts to kill empty apps etc etc as free memory goes below next value the phone starts to kill corresponding apps. Kind of makes sense to me now. Ok I know my settings makes the phone kill more frequently but its damn snappy now,and it can lower the oom settings by long pressing the app in processes section you wish to lower and choosing lower oom. Lowering the oom basically gives the app less chance of being killed.
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I have tried supercharge script and does make phone smooth. Also Ive use ram manager new app and that too made phone smooth. But this app (Pro) is so far great. I tried out your settings for now to see if it suits me and had the app for an hour and the phone is very snappy and smooth (which is most important to me). I hope there is a slight battery improvement that many have said on the net but will test more and will leave feed back. A big thx m8!
no probs mate, like i said i have tried the lot and this one for me is really good and you get to be the controller lol.the only drawback i have noticed is that it takes a little longer for the phone to boot after a reboot but !!!!! im ok with that.
LMFAO looks like I didn't pay enough attention... I've used a lot of tweaks already to make my Willy faster, more snappy and stable but to be honest nothing gave it such a boost like that
BTW: are you still using the settings of the op?
Holy crap, I've read that really often here and elsewhere but it's the first it applies to myself: feels like a new phone
eventcom said:
LMFAO looks like I didn't pay enough attention... I've used a lot of tweaks already to make my Willy faster, more snappy and stable but to be honest nothing gave it such a boost like that
BTW: are you still using the settings of the op?
Holy crap, I've read that really often here and elsewhere but it's the first it applies to myself: feels like a new phone
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I use aggressive setting mostly, all advanced tweaks except sdcard boost one as this bumps read ahead up to 2048, just my preference you might prefer 2048.
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slymobi said:
I use aggressive setting mostly, all advanced tweaks except sdcard boost one as this bumps read ahead up to 2048, just my preference you might prefer 2048
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I see. I just have to sort things out now. Regarding the SD card read - I have it already done by sdbooster (@2048) - I'm at a point where I should make a documentation to stay on track and to avoid double tweaks lol.
I'm also very interested into scratch's build.prop lol (guess that would help to drop even more tweaks). Thx again - I've not forgotten about your tip re. AMO - just shifted it too far lol.
I dont know if this got discussed already, but I just used the force 2d acceleration feature in the developer menu and hat a GREAT increase in perfomance, specialy in image heavy applications.
If you dont know this already test it, if you know it let us know
Some feedback on battery perfomance somebody?
You'll find some apps don't work too good with it enabled though.
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If you use any type of comic book reader, you will be happy by turning on 2d acceleration. went from horrible 2fps choppy crap to buttery smooth.
Daxten said:
I dont know if this got discussed already, but I just used the force 2d acceleration feature in the developer menu and hat a GREAT increase in perfomance, specialy in image heavy applications.
If you dont know this already test it, if you know it let us know
Some feedback on battery perfomance somebody?
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bah seriously.. someone needs to write up a sticky for this kind of thing. Developer Options are not meant for regular users. There's no reason to enable them unless you specifically need to.
A few reasons why you don't want to enable it
- some apps don't handle this well and will result in everything from poor performance, weird graphical glitches, or even stop the app from loading at all
- there is actually considerable memory overhead to GPU acceleration (8MB vs 2MB). So you're really just making your multi-tasking situation worse.
Hey guys,
I like to have the developer option "max background processes" set to 2. It kind of disables multitasking a bit, but it keeps like 1000mb ram available which keeps my phone nice and fast.
Only problem is, I have to re-enable this everytime I reboot my device, which isnt terrible, but its not as smooth as Id like it to be.
I also do this on my tf201.
Just wondering if theres anyway to force those settings to stay on.
Thanks,
Super
superostrich said:
Hey guys,
I like to have the developer option "max background processes" set to 2. It kind of disables multitasking a bit, but it keeps like 1000mb ram available which keeps my phone nice and fast.
Only problem is, I have to re-enable this everytime I reboot my device, which isnt terrible, but its not as smooth as Id like it to be.
I also do this on my tf201.
Just wondering if theres anyway to force those settings to stay on.
Thanks,
Super
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Using ram does not slow your phone down, unless it is using cpu cycles and if it is then it is either a bad app or is running still.
Randomacts said:
Using ram does not slow your phone down, unless it is using cpu cycles and if it is then it is either a bad app or is running still.
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But as with any computing system, if you are taking up all the ram with background processes, your phone is going to run like 's***'
superostrich said:
But as with any computing system, if you are taking up all the ram with background processes, your phone is going to run like 's***'
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I haven't been able to slow down my AT&T SGS III even when I try I can't use 2gigs of ram.
In unix/linux unused ram is wasted ram. Often stuff will use *if coded properly* extra ram if there is lots of extra to use.
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I haven't been able to slow down my AT&T SGS III even when I try I can't use 2gigs of ram.
In unix/linux unused ram is wasted ram. Often stuff will use *if coded properly* extra ram if there is lots of extra to use.
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Ah. I see. I know that its better to have ram in use, than not too. But I was finding that I would have 300-400mb free, and my phone ran like crap. Put on the limited background processes to 2, and it ran a lot smoother.
Do you have any idea to keep that kept on after reboots?
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Ah. I see. I know that its better to have ram in use, than not too. But I was finding that I would have 300-400mb free, and my phone ran like crap. Put on the limited background processes to 2, and it ran a lot smoother.
Do you have any idea to keep that kept on after reboots?
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Your issue is not your "ram" is the fact you got some ****ty apps probally taking a lot of CPU cycles.
To check what app this is *best time to check for your issue would be when your phone starts to be slow*
Hold the home button and then click task manger. From there go to Applications on the very left *probably the default place it puts you*
You can see the CPU usage on that page..
If anything is above 0% it might be what is casing the issue. If you want you can post a screenshot of that page and we can see if there are any known bad apps there.
Hi all,
Anyone experience lag in the dialer when switching tabs (usually the first time changing from Dial tab to Call Log/Contacts) ?
Try This!!!
liamR said:
Hi all,
Anyone experience lag in the dialer when switching tabs (usually the first time changing from Dial tab to Call Log/Contacts) ?
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There may be background running apps causing this lag. Clear recent apps try.. U can also reboot the device to close unnecessary background running apps...
Yes absolutely right.
Its the only place where m phone lags by switching the tabs.
there are basically 2 places where you can force the phone to either end processes associated with apps when the app is closed or limit running background processes. Have you used either of those options? If so, this is what is likely causing the lag. If not....? So if you used the developer options menu to limit background then go ahead and put it back to default. If you used the other way to limit processes of specific apps then unchecked the couple that have to do with the dialer and let those run free.
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There may be background running apps causing this lag. Clear recent apps try.. U can also reboot the device to close unnecessary background running apps...
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Clearing recent app will not solve the problem, android system know how to do it the best way.
I asked if anyone else having this problem because I did some major system customization and I can't remember if this problem was before my changes. I don't have time to debug it.
liamR said:
Clearing recent app will not solve the problem, android system know how to do it the best way.
I asked if anyone else having this problem because I did some major system customization and I can't remember if this problem was before my changes. I don't have time to debug it.
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I know the android memory management. if it needs memory for foreground apps it frees up some memory by killing the background process. The lag is mostly because of the busy processor. sometimes apps like whatsapp and viber who have push notifications work in background as demons. This processes may use up the clock cycles and henceforth contribute to the lag while switching tabs etc. A higher priority process such as games will force the system to give up most of the CPU time to the game app and hence they DO NOT LAG. Sometimes they may lag when u receive a text message in background. This is because the SMS and calls have higher priority. Killing the background apps which may be using up CPU cycles will not only give a lag free operation but also a good battery life. that is why you swipe up the apps from the recent apps tray.
I'm not talking about memory because i know how android handles the memory..
Yup, that LG dialer is one idiotic piece of software that I hate about this phone. The stock ROM otherwise is surprisingly fluid. But dialer................less I say the better. The backspace delay is intolerable.
I dont know if this is issue with completely stock system or not as frankly i never ran this phone stock. I am running V4 stock based ROM. This issue was not there on any CM based ROMs. Specific to stock based rom.
Hi , it is just little hint that allows you to get rid of this infamous scrolling issues that appears mostly in social apps like twitter or fb on all AOSP based ROMs.
As I observed it is enough to set some touchboost kernel parameters. Of course you have to be rooted to do that.
Below there is a sample configuration that I use (set in Franco kernel manager) and scrolling is buttery smooth and also I didn't notice inscreased battery drain since I use it (though it it must be higer) .
I suggest to spend sometime to change those value to find sweet spot that suits your needs
Don't ask me about scheduler priority , I don't know what that values means , just know that 1 is fine (maybe other is better ) .
I shared this solution on TG group and some guys confirmed that this trick works for them.
Don't hesitate to share you favorite config and have fun
This was actually one of my main reasons not to use a custom ROM, thanks, I will definitely try this out!
Thank you for sharing this!!
It took me a while to actually find these settings. For those that also can't find it:
Menu > "CPU and GPU" > scroll down to the "Miscellaneous" section > "CAF CPU boost"
shaun.kleyn said:
Thank you for sharing this!!
It took me a while to actually find these settings. For those that also can't find it:
Menu > "CPU and GPU" > scroll down to the "Miscellaneous" section > "CAF CPU boost"
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The menu of which kernel management application?
Ok I see. Sorry.
Works perfect. Thank You.
However, when you look closely, sometimes I see a slight leap in the animation. Which parameter can be increased to completely remove stuttering scroll animations?
Ok I think I know.
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The menu of which kernel management application?
Ok I see. Sorry.
Works perfect. Thank You.
However, when you look closely, sometimes I see a slight leap in the animation. Which parameter can be increased to completely remove stuttering scroll animations?
Ok I think I know.
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Can you share what you did to smooth it out completely? Ta
loulondono said:
Can you share what you did to smooth it out completely? Ta
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Input boost to 1500 but app drawer from time to time still have some problems with smoothnes
Wow that's a massive difference. I'm using the FPS overlay thing (app not settings) and it actually waits before playing with the refresh rate. I'm on stock not a rom yet, but the little hang ups on what is the latest and fastest chip was annoying me to all hell. Thank you so much (and felek73 obviously)
First impressions: responsiveness if fantastic, but battery drain is way higher (I had just flashed blu sparks and only done a half day, so will see in time) but before it was noticeably better than stock and the remaining 40% has gone by considerably quicker
How to I reset the frequencies to stock? There isnt a "0" option in Franco kernel, despite being that way initially