Hi all,
Anyone experience lag in the dialer when switching tabs (usually the first time changing from Dial tab to Call Log/Contacts) ?
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liamR said:
Hi all,
Anyone experience lag in the dialer when switching tabs (usually the first time changing from Dial tab to Call Log/Contacts) ?
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There may be background running apps causing this lag. Clear recent apps try.. U can also reboot the device to close unnecessary background running apps...
Yes absolutely right.
Its the only place where m phone lags by switching the tabs.
there are basically 2 places where you can force the phone to either end processes associated with apps when the app is closed or limit running background processes. Have you used either of those options? If so, this is what is likely causing the lag. If not....? So if you used the developer options menu to limit background then go ahead and put it back to default. If you used the other way to limit processes of specific apps then unchecked the couple that have to do with the dialer and let those run free.
StarkV5 said:
There may be background running apps causing this lag. Clear recent apps try.. U can also reboot the device to close unnecessary background running apps...
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Clearing recent app will not solve the problem, android system know how to do it the best way.
I asked if anyone else having this problem because I did some major system customization and I can't remember if this problem was before my changes. I don't have time to debug it.
liamR said:
Clearing recent app will not solve the problem, android system know how to do it the best way.
I asked if anyone else having this problem because I did some major system customization and I can't remember if this problem was before my changes. I don't have time to debug it.
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I know the android memory management. if it needs memory for foreground apps it frees up some memory by killing the background process. The lag is mostly because of the busy processor. sometimes apps like whatsapp and viber who have push notifications work in background as demons. This processes may use up the clock cycles and henceforth contribute to the lag while switching tabs etc. A higher priority process such as games will force the system to give up most of the CPU time to the game app and hence they DO NOT LAG. Sometimes they may lag when u receive a text message in background. This is because the SMS and calls have higher priority. Killing the background apps which may be using up CPU cycles will not only give a lag free operation but also a good battery life. that is why you swipe up the apps from the recent apps tray.
I'm not talking about memory because i know how android handles the memory..
Yup, that LG dialer is one idiotic piece of software that I hate about this phone. The stock ROM otherwise is surprisingly fluid. But dialer................less I say the better. The backspace delay is intolerable.
I dont know if this is issue with completely stock system or not as frankly i never ran this phone stock. I am running V4 stock based ROM. This issue was not there on any CM based ROMs. Specific to stock based rom.
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What about Applications running in Background ?
I've installed a program called "ZDBox", it's very useful to make you keep tracking of the memory issues, running apps and some other cool controls.
I can see that some apps are still running although I've closed them and even killed them but they come back to run again which is very weird to me...
I surfed the internet and googled some articles talking about this and a conclusion was made that linux-based system like Android (is it really Linux-based ?) isn't affected by such running apps as they aren't really running, they are just on standby...
I'm really confused and just wanted to share this with you so we may all share our experiences in this !!!
I'm also facing smiler kind of problem.please give suggestions..
I don't really know, but some articles are saying that it's nothing consumed, but sometimes i can see that more than 100 MB are freed up from memory when i use the "Kill All" option !!!!!!!!
I'm really confused because of this tooo !!!!
use advanced task killer. It has an auto kill feature (2-10-15 mins..anything you want) and ignore list also. kill levels (safe, aggressive, crazy).
Its a good app to free up running memory
ravijokhun said:
use advanced task killer. It has an auto kill feature (2-10-15 mins..anything you want) and ignore list also. kill levels (safe, aggressive, crazy).
Its a good app to free up running memory
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Thanks mr. Fido for this but the issue i'm thinking of is it worth to have an automatic killing working in the background ? I mean it is still using extra resources, I think we should look for a method to kill it once and forever....I'll keep searching and will reply here if i find anything interesting, if you came over something useful, I'll be happy to know it as well
does not use much resources to have an auto task killer
koki-tytnII said:
What about Applications running in Background ?
I'm really confused and just wanted to share this with you so we may all share our experiences in this !!!
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Android start up unfinished processes and I don't see any sense of killing running services. What it gives to you? Makes anything more smooth? No. If any application will need more memory, android will automatically finish old and unused processes. So, what's the sense using task killers? Especially, when they killing processes like market, sms, etc.
I have a couple of questions regarding some options under "Developer Options" in the settings menu. The first questions I have is regarding GPU Rendering. Should we enable it and has anyone noticed any positive/negative effects after enabling it? The next question I have is about the option to limit background processes. I have been limiting the processes to 4 but it seems like every time I go back into this sub menu. it is always back to it's stock setting of "Standard Limit'. Does anyone know how to make it stay on 4?
Force gpu rendering in theory makes ui more responsive and fluid, but if apps are not specifically coded for that, they can look weird with black bars and abnormal colors. I noticed this in few apps and turned it off. I am not sure why ur background process number is not sticking, but honestly u will be more happy if u leave it at default coz with 2 gb ram there is enough memory to run all ur background services and some more.
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I have a couple of questions regarding some options under "Developer Options" in the settings menu. The first questions I have is regarding GPU Rendering. Should we enable it and has anyone noticed any positive/negative effects after enabling it? The next question I have is about the option to limit background processes. I have been limiting the processes to 4 but it seems like every time I go back into this sub menu. it is always back to it's stock setting of "Standard Limit'. Does anyone know how to make it stay on 4?
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Dude my background processes keep reverting back to i noticed when i went back in i know it stuck for me on complete stock but i am on free gs3 rom right now and think it might be something conflicting with the modified build.prop tweaks he may have in there. ??? Anyways that switched to limiting 4 background processes and putting window animation and transition animation to 0.5 i noticed a difference . Although i dont really think our phones need this because of the 2gb of ram now maybe the g2x did and as far as gpu rendering u will only notice a difference in some apps that are optimized for this. If not u will notice some artifacts on the screen thats usually your first hint to switch it off because it isnt playing nicely with that particular App. But yes especially in some games u should notice a slight difference. Again if it was the g2x having no hardware accelaration then having it u saw a big difference....our gs3's our such beasts that its minimal to our eyes
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Dude my background processes keep reverting back to i noticed when i went back in i know it stuck for me on complete stock but i am on free gs3 rom right now and think it might be something conflicting with the modified build.prop tweaks he may have in there. ??? Anyways that switched to limiting 4 background processes and putting window animation and transition animation to 0.5 i noticed a difference . Although i dont really think our phones need this because of the 2gb of ram now maybe the g2x did and as far as gpu rendering u will only notice a difference in some apps that are optimized for this. If not u will notice some artifacts on the screen thats usually your first hint to switch it off because it isnt playing nicely with that particular App. But yes especially in some games u should notice a slight difference. Again if it was the g2x having no hardware accelaration then having it u saw a big difference....our gs3's our such beasts that its minimal to our eyes
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the processes reset on mine too. This happened on my amaze too. It's ICS doing it not just our phone.
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Hey all!
Somewhat new to the custom ROM and kernel scene. I'm currently running Lupus Stock GB/ICS Kernel v3, 480p and Krisdee's Hybrid ROM v1.0. My phone runs smoothly, even better than it did with the stock ROM.
However, I noticed if I leave the phone on overnight while charging, in the morning the RAM will almost be completely used up, causing several processes to close and try and re-open itself. I only found out what was going on when apps I tried to open end up closing themselves after a few seconds.
I can clear up the RAM by restarting the phone, but I'm actually not used to having to turn it off at all. Would there be a way to have it use better memory management and keep it at ~200 MB free while idling?
Your ram problem may be the cause of an application or widget having memory leaks. Try removing/uninstallng any useless applications and widgets that you may have constantly running in the background. Remove them one by one to see if you could find the application causing the problem.
Live wallpapers also tend to take up ram, so if possible disable them. You could also use a launcher which utilizes less ram such as "lightning launcher" or "zeam launcher".
NXT light rom is also a good candidate for more better ram.
And take a look at Esus task manager. Very useful in freeing up ram either manually or automatically.
This is normal in linux
I think adrenalin ( not the one in xplay xda) tweak can solve this
Try rebooting the phone
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Your ram problem may be the cause of an application or widget having memory leaks. Try removing/uninstallng any useless applications and widgets that you may have constantly running in the background. Remove them one by one to see if you could find the application causing the problem.
Live wallpapers also tend to take up ram, so if possible disable them. You could also use a launcher which utilizes less ram such as "lightning launcher" or "zeam launcher".
NXT light rom is also a good candidate for more better ram.
And take a look at Esus task manager. Very useful in freeing up ram either manually or automatically.
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It's a fairly fresh build, the only apps I have extra are Skype, Candy Crush Saga, ES File Explorer and Freedom. Skype normally isn't running.
pedyvirus said:
This is normal in linux
I think adrenalin ( not the one in xplay xda) tweak can solve this
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I'll take a look at that.
w4r3zh4ck said:
Try rebooting the phone
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This is my current solution, however, it tends to happen again as time goes on and I essentially need to reboot at least once a day.
flamefury said:
It's a fairly fresh build, the only apps I have extra are Skype, Candy Crush Saga, ES File Explorer and Freedom. Skype normally isn't running.
I'll take a look at that.
This is my current solution, however, it tends to happen again as time goes on and I essentially need to reboot at least once a day.
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Well right now the best thing i could advise you to do is download an application that shows or records background process. The default app for showing processes on the XP sucks. It doesn't show all processes that are running. Chances are you may have thought that you closed off skype, but it still runs in the background. You really show take a look at a task manager like "Esus Task Manager" to determine what is eating your ram.
HI ALL,
I will root my device , but I want to know how to increase its performance and speed and reduce RAM usage?
and what is the best browser for Android for fast browsing and low memory usage?
Most of the speed increasing and RAM decreasing can be done without root. Replacing Touchwiz with Apex or Nova Launcher is the first step that makes the most difference. Disable most of the bloatware and turn down animations in developer options.
This post probably belongs in the Q&A section, not the software one.
Reduction in RAM usage doesn't necessarily equate to performance boost. Android memory management does a good job of keeping things running smoothly so the goal of debloating should not be to free up RAM. To maximize performance with regards to memory usage with Android what you'll want to do is debloat your device to the point that applications that you'll never use are no longer loading into memory automatically (either as active applications or cached) which will allow other frequently used applications a chance to load into RAM/cache for quick response times. Running memory management software is also counter productive as it will battle against Android's own memory management and kill background applications that you may want cached for quicker response when needed.
Personally I WANT RAM to fill up because if I'm jumping from application to application I don't want to wait for things to load from storage into RAM. I also refrain from cache cleaning frequently because I have a particular routine when I use my device (frequenting particular websites and using particular applications daily) so clearing cache frequently will only force my device to have to re-cache things unnecessarily.
Getting down to the nitty gritty of how to debloat, the approach I took for my device is to work with a few applications; SystemPanelLite Task Manager, Greenify, Boot Manager and Titanium Backup. I would clean boot my device and let it sit for a while (several minutes) to cache applications as it saw fit. I'd then pop into the system panel lite application and look at what was loaded into both active processes and cached. I'd evaluate each entry to determine for myself whether or not I wanted that application to load automatically or not OR NEVER. If the answer was never then I'd use Titanium Backup to freeze the application (of course for each app I'd do my research to see if it was serving an important function). If the answer was that I needed the application but not all of the time then I'd look into Greenifying it and also considered disabling it from starting at boot using boot manager.
I'd do the above iteratively until all I saw in RAM or cached were applications and services that I felt were important. Never during this process did I care how low memory usage was since the goal is to preload as much of the important stuff as possible.
In the end I ended up freezing a ton of Samsung apps, especially after uninstalling applications that relied on their own app store like Hancom.
Of course a quicker way to reduce bloat is to go to a ROM that someone else has debloated and start there as a base. I began my own debloating process early last year though so starting again on a ROM even if it already is debloated to a certain extent doesn't seem worth it for me at this time (but if a lollipop update rolls out and a ROM developer updates to that then I'll surely try it).
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ShadowLea said:
Most of the speed increasing and RAM decreasing can be done without root. Replacing Touchwiz with Apex or Nova Launcher is the first step that makes the most difference. Disable most of the bloatware and turn down animations in developer options.
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thanks a lot man , I used nove launcher and its v nice , I guess need to root so I can freeze more apps as not all can be disabled using offical rom
muzzy996 said:
This post probably belongs in the Q&A section, not the software one.
Reduction in RAM usage doesn't necessarily equate to performance boost. Android memory management does a good job of keeping things running smoothly so the goal of debloating should not be to free up RAM. To maximize performance with regards to memory usage with Android what you'll want to do is debloat your device to the point that applications that you'll never use are no longer loading into memory automatically (either as active applications or cached) which will allow other frequently used applications a chance to load into RAM/cache for quick response times. Running memory management software is also counter productive as it will battle against Android's own memory management and kill background applications that you may want cached for quicker response when needed.
Personally I WANT RAM to fill up because if I'm jumping from application to application I don't want to wait for things to load from storage into RAM. I also refrain from cache cleaning frequently because I have a particular routine when I use my device (frequenting particular websites and using particular applications daily) so clearing cache frequently will only force my device to have to re-cache things unnecessarily.
Getting down to the nitty gritty of how to debloat, the approach I took for my device is to work with a few applications; SystemPanelLite Task Manager, Greenify, Boot Manager and Titanium Backup. I would clean boot my device and let it sit for a while (several minutes) to cache applications as it saw fit. I'd then pop into the system panel lite application and look at what was loaded into both active processes and cached. I'd evaluate each entry to determine for myself whether or not I wanted that application to load automatically or not OR NEVER. If the answer was never then I'd use Titanium Backup to freeze the application (of course for each app I'd do my research to see if it was serving an important function). If the answer was that I needed the application but not all of the time then I'd look into Greenifying it and also considered disabling it from starting at boot using boot manager.
I'd do the above iteratively until all I saw in RAM or cached were applications and services that I felt were important. Never during this process did I care how low memory usage was since the goal is to preload as much of the important stuff as possible.
In the end I ended up freezing a ton of Samsung apps, especially after uninstalling applications that relied on their own app store like Hancom.
Of course a quicker way to reduce bloat is to go to a ROM that someone else has debloated and start there as a base. I began my own debloating process early last year though so starting again on a ROM even if it already is debloated to a certain extent doesn't seem worth it for me at this time (but if a lollipop update rolls out and a ROM developer updates to that then I'll surely try it).
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Really helpfull man thanks a lot for all the information u shared, am ok with but guess will need to do more research for greenify cuz I didnt use it at all, secondly what office u used after uniinstalling hancom?
I'm currently using Microsoft's Word/Excel Preview apps and have an Office 365 account to enable editing. I've just started (1 month trial) so I haven't really gotten a lot of use out of the software yet.
I can't speak for anyone else but myself but my reason for dropping Hancom was twofold; 1) it did not support the review/commenting features that I needed in Word files and 2) it often required updates at inopportune times. My needs are quite specific, my tablet is a reference and note taking device for meetings and is never used for production type work. As such, I need the ability to take email attachments, open them for review and comment and then send the comments back out as email attachments. The limitations of Hancom when it comes to track changes were a deal breaker for me since I could not see the history of development of reports/documents.
Microsoft's mobile version of Word implements the best support of track changes/comments that I've found to date, so I'm forced to pay the premium of a 365 subscription on this device to get what I need.
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I'm currently using Microsoft's Word/Excel Preview apps and have an Office 365 account to enable editing. I've just started (1 month trial) so I haven't really gotten a lot of use out of the software yet.
I can't speak for anyone else but myself but my reason for dropping Hancom was twofold; 1) it did not support the review/commenting features that I needed in Word files and 2) it often required updates at inopportune times. My needs are quite specific, my tablet is a reference and note taking device for meetings and is never used for production type work. As such, I need the ability to take email attachments, open them for review and comment and then send the comments back out as email attachments. The limitations of Hancom when it comes to track changes were a deal breaker for me since I could not see the history of development of reports/documents.
Microsoft's mobile version of Word implements the best support of track changes/comments that I've found to date, so I'm forced to pay the premium of a 365 subscription on this device to get what I need.
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thanks for reply and sorry for late , hoping the android 5 be great
Install cm12 lollipop ROM. Drastic improvement in browser performance and gaming. For example, Asphalt 8 is extremely slow on stock, even overclocked. On cm12 it runs perfectly with max graphics settings. Unfortunately you lose all the cool touchwiz features like multi window. For me, the performance improvement is enough that it's worth the lost features. I'm anxiously waiting for the official lollipop update.
My last phone, the G3, has 3 GB of RAM. The G3 runs Lollipop perfectly. The S6 edge has 3 GB of RAM and there's never any of it. I understand that there's a very aggressive low memory killer but it is ridiculous that a top of the line phone needs to reclaim my podcast app or Audible while they're playing. There should be a ton of free memory and a ton of cached apps in it but the memory is full and there is nothing cached. I've never been so frustrated with a phone. I spend a lot of time sighing at it when it does something stupid. Anyway, if anyone knows where this mysterious memory is being used, please chime in.
There are suspicions that it could be related to the touchwiz launcher, try a different launcher just for the heck of it and see how it goes.
Pp.
gunslingerfry said:
My last phone, the G3, has 3 GB of RAM. The G3 runs Lollipop perfectly. The S6 edge has 3 GB of RAM and there's never any of it. I understand that there's a very aggressive low memory killer but it is ridiculous that a top of the line phone needs to reclaim my podcast app or Audible while they're playing. There should be a ton of free memory and a ton of cached apps in it but the memory is full and there is nothing cached. I've never been so frustrated with a phone. I spend a lot of time sighing at it when it does something stupid. Anyway, if anyone knows where this mysterious memory is being used, please chime in.
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Hi gunslingerfry,
I was just reading about this on forbes. Here is what their author says to explain the poor memory usage and how to fix it "What should happen is RAM used by apps and services is released when those apps and services are not in use. Instead it is not being released which means each new app or service has to eat into additional memory until there is no more available, at which point the slowdowns and crashes begin.
The only half solutions at present are a) to hit the ‘Close All’ button in the multitasking card menu to dismiss all apps to try and claw some memory back, or b) to reboot the device. Interestingly the latter is expected to have helped keep the issue under the radar in reviews as performance testing is always done from a fresh boot."
So it sounds like you are sort of out of luck for now, but I am sure there will be some update that fixes the issue shortly.
I'm experiencing this myself but apps that I reopen from the multitask window have to reload and I lose where I was previously.. Very annoying to say the least.
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PanchoPlanet said:
There are suspicions that it could be related to the touchwiz launcher, try a different launcher just for the heck of it and see how it goes.
Pp.
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I never use the TW launcher because I don't enjoy using it. I use Action Launcher. It's very lightweight.
Goldmeyer said:
Hi gunslingerfry,
I was just reading about this on forbes. Here is what their author says to explain the poor memory usage and how to fix it "What should happen is RAM used by apps and services is released when those apps and services are not in use. Instead it is not being released which means each new app or service has to eat into additional memory until there is no more available, at which point the slowdowns and crashes begin.
The only half solutions at present are a) to hit the ‘Close All’ button in the multitasking card menu to dismiss all apps to try and claw some memory back, or b) to reboot the device. Interestingly the latter is expected to have helped keep the issue under the radar in reviews as performance testing is always done from a fresh boot."
So it sounds like you are sort of out of luck for now, but I am sure there will be some update that fixes the issue shortly.
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Goldmeyer, this doesn't explain why it's 75% utilized on boot but with no running apps (according to the smart manager app). I've tried the build.prop tweaks posted around here and there is a significant difference. Smart manager reports there are dozens of apps being pre-loaded on boot (which is normal, this is what we want!) but with the same 75% utilized. Those tweaks tended to lag the device after a couple hours, which may be a manifestation of what the Forbes article is referring to. So I guess the thing I don't get, and maybe a better understanding of what the dha/lmk values that are being tweaked would help, is what is currently allocating all that excess memory? Is TW just allocating ridiculous amounts of memory to make sure it runs smoothly? Is Android hoarding it for its own uses? And if so, how can any device with less than 3 GB of ram possibly function on Lollipop?
On a much more technical note, I understand that running 64 bit means using a little more ram. Addresses are twice the size and integers will be twice the size but that doesn't explain 2.3 GB. It shouldn't be loading the entire system partition into ram.