i used to have an HD7 from when wp7 was launched, until a few months ago, when i switched to lumia 900... i love this new phone, the AMOLED + clearblack display and the whole feel of the phone and everything... but i miss my sideloaded stuff... its has been so many months... and all other lumia models except 900 have custom roms or jailbreak methods... why is it taking so long to jailbreak lumia 900 and sideload apps?
i appreciate all the work and attempts various developers and the likes of DFT are doing to crack this device... but could someone explain why 900 out of all windows phone 7 devices is so difficult to jailbreak? is anyone working on this? i cannot use marketplace to buy apps too, coz my live account is registered in the US and microsoft wouldnt allow change of country.. and they've asked me to use a different account and i dont want to... should i just buy the $100 dollar developer account? would that let me change accent colors through registry and sideload apps like RDP and games like NFS n stuff??
hope someone cooks up a custom ROM for lumia 900 soon.
due to locked bootloader
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With a massive time lag as well, when I plug in the charger its a good 5 seconds before the software cuts in to show the battery is charging.
This phone is supposed to have a 1.4ghz processor in it, but it performs like it is operating on top of a very slow BIOS, and everything it does is laggy.
Pros - its never crashed...yet
des519 said:
With a massive time lag as well, when I plug in the charger its a good 5 seconds before the software cuts in to show the battery is charging.
This phone is supposed to have a 1.4ghz processor in it, but it performs like it is operating on top of a very slow BIOS, and everything it does is laggy.
Pros - its never crashed...yet
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This is not lag my friend. This is the firmware checking the battery's level to decide how much current to demand from the charger. The closer the battery is to 100%, the less current is drawn from the charger.
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This is not lag my friend. This is the firmware checking the battery's level to decide how much current to demand from the charger. The closer the battery is to 100%, the less current is drawn from the charger.
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This would be done in less than a milisecond.
Fact is my old HTC HD7 running nextgen ROM is quicker all round, no lag anywhere.
des519 said:
This would be done in less than a milisecond.
Fact is my old HTC HD7 running nextgen ROM is quicker all round, no lag anywhere.
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2ell I am yet to experience any lag at all from the phone. Zero crashes so far and zero lag and I have lots of apps. The phone taking a couple of seconds to charge is definitely not going to keep me awake at night.
Plus, this has nothing to do with the thread's topic so stay on topic.
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This would be done in less than a milisecond.
Fact is my old HTC HD7 running nextgen ROM is quicker all round, no lag anywhere.
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Don't compare a ****ty manufacturer's hardware to Nokia's experience with making hardware - if Nokia designed it to wait a few seconds before charging, it's better this way for the device...
Unless of course, you're a more able electronics engineer and think you can do better, and in this case - just send an email to Nokia with your superior designs...
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Don't compare a ****ty manufacturer's hardware to Nokia's experience with making hardware - if Nokia designed it to wait a few seconds before charging, it's better this way for the device...
Unless of course, you're a more able electronics engineer and think you can do better, and in this case - just send an email to Nokia with your superior designs...
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xsever has stated in another thread that he is an engineer, maybe he should email them
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please shut this thread down as it is NOT conducive to anything Lumia 900....
chrisz5z said:
xsever has stated in another thread that he is an engineer, maybe he should email them
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Yes I am an Electrical Engineer. I would rather have the firmware double and triple check the battery's level and condition before deciding what is the optimized charging rate.
If anyone is bothered by the delay it takes before charging starts (couple of seconds), then I advise them they go start scooping water out of the sea!
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Yes I am an Electrical Engineer. I would rather have the firmware double and triple check the battery's level and condition before deciding what is the optimized charging rate.
If anyone is bothered by the delay it takes before charging starts (couple of seconds), then I advise them they go start scooping water out of the sea!
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Exactly... And I don't understand how can these 5 seconds 'delay' bother anyone - it's not like they matter in any way, if you need to charge your phone, those 5 seconds won't be the thing that will delay you before you'd need to go out for that super-important hamster education convention...
5 seconds? Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration? Also, the horror of having to wait a second or two before charging starts. My ${deity}, the things people nitpick about these days.
Not an exaggeration, me too it's more than 5 second before charging start (when the sreen is off).
Yeah mine typically can take nearly 30 seconds to begin charge. And the screen is unresponsive wile this is occurring. The 900 is my first run with Nokia. & I've got to say I am HIGHLY unimpressed with the hardware. I've had MUCH, MUCH better phones from HTC & Samsung. Sorry, but it's true. Nokia has turned me away from their products due to this P.O.S. called the Lumia 900.
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Yeah mine typically can take nearly 30 seconds to begin charge. And the screen is unresponsive wile this is occurring. The 900 is my first run with Nokia. & I've got to say I am HIGHLY unimpressed with the hardware. I've had MUCH, MUCH better phones from HTC & Samsung. Sorry, but it's true. Nokia has turned me away from their products due to this P.O.S. called the Lumia 900.
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I really hate to agree with this but I do. I had high expectations and have been underwhelmed thus far. It really is a chore to get this bad boy to charge sometimes. My WP8 phone will probably be a Samsung or HTC. I can wait for exclusive apps for a better overall phone experience.
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5 seconds? Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration? Also, the horror of having to wait a second or two before charging starts. My ${deity}, the things people nitpick about these days.
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Sometimes mine is 5 secs or even longer. Never been an annoyance but it is a wth moment the first time it happens cause you think something is wrong with your phone lol
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Anyway back to the thread topic, the reason this phone is not cracked open is because no one wants to spend time on a device that is out of date from the start (win phone 8 launch Oct 2012 ) and slow to respond generally, check out Nokia's own support pages for the 900 (the screen takes 5 plus seconds to illuminate properly, are you going to live with that as well ?? plus a load of other niggles)
Need another battery? Just send the whole device back to Nokia or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZO-iGxTBlE
Great if you have the time :laugh:
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please shut this thread down as it is NOT conducive to anything Lumia 900....
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This thread is VERY conducive to anyone contemplating a Lumia 900 purchase.
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Anyway back to the thread topic, the reason this phone is not cracked open is because no one wants to spend time on a device that is out of date from the start
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OR - wait for it - maybe they just can't crack it, like some of them said? Nahh... Can't be...
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Need another battery? Just send the whole device back to Nokia or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZO-iGxTBlE
Great if you have the time :laugh:
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So you essentially say that the iPhone, and the Galaxy S3 and more are flawed? That never bothered them to sell millions, ya know...
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Yeah mine typically can take nearly 30 seconds to begin charge. And the screen is unresponsive wile this is occurring.
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That happened to me as well but only when I DIDN'T use the charger which was supplied with the phone (I used older Nokia micro-usb charger)... When I use the original Lumia 900 charger that I got in the box with the phone - everything works fine and charging begins really quick.
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whats wrong with this thread? I raised a simple concern that most other Lumia 900 owners have. Why isnt it getting cracked like the other Lumia models?
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Anyway back to the thread topic, the reason this phone is not cracked open is because no one wants to spend time on a device that is out of date from the start (win phone 8 launch Oct 2012 )
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why not? millions of people bought this phone. so are you saying that no developers bought this phone? even the ones who bought it are not bothered to crack it, coz they call themselves idiots for buying this phone and idly sitting around waiting for windows phone 8 to release so that they can try and crack that?
and also just because windows phone 8 wont be natively supported on this phone, why should that stop anyone from trying to crack this? HD2 was only made for win mobile 6.5 ... people cracked it, ported windows phone 7 and even android OS on it... maybe one day someone will develop a way to port windows phone 8 on first and second generation windows phone 7 devices..
this is not a good enough reason.
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why not? millions of people bought this phone. so are you saying that no developers bought this phone? even the ones who bought it are not bothered to crack it, coz they call themselves idiots for buying this phone and idly sitting around waiting for windows phone 8 to release so that they can try and crack that?
and also just because windows phone 8 wont be natively supported on this phone, why should that stop anyone from trying to crack this? HD2 was only made for win mobile 6.5 ... people cracked it, ported windows phone 7 and even android OS on it... maybe one day someone will develop a way to port windows phone 8 on first and second generation windows phone 7 devices..
this is not a good enough reason.
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As I said, the phone was not cracked yet because the bootloader is closed. There's no "progress" in cracking it by whoever is working on a crack, AFAIK, there's just shooting in the dark and hoping to hit something that might provide a hint for a way to crack it. It's either that - or Nokia, in a future update, will do a sloppy job and leave a loophole in the bootloader which will enable cracking it.
Thing is, these mistakes/sloppy jobs doesn't come quite often, and this is the reason why we're waiting so long for a crack to the Lumia 900. Also, bare in mind that the device is rather new in the market (~4 months) and these things - like cracking - just takes time... Sometimes more, sometimes less...
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Anyone hear anything besides CDMA coming in Q1 ? I've been following all day nothing so far on any new models or anything on brands.
I've seen a bunch of phones but, all that Anroid crap... (sorry fanboys, I'm not a fan)
Did anyone else see anything ?
Nothing really new.
When an MS rep was questioned, he did say something like (I'm paraphrasing), "We're saving some news for a later date. Only if there was an event coming up dedicated to mobile devices in Barcelona, Spain where we could talk about this..."
Making a not so thinly veiled reference to the Mobile World Congress starting on February 14th.
I honestly didn't think there was anything exciting at CES. Dual core is nothing without the apps to back it up. As a former Android user, I didn't find anything interesting. Maybe that is because T-Mobile didn't announce a superphone and I will not break my contract.
They will drop a couple devices in February. Maybe in Spain.
Than again, sometime in the Fall.
Yea, nothing good, it sucks to be honest with ya.... It's not over yet (later date ?) but, I guess we'll see.
We CDMA people have to wait till Feb before we hear anything about a CDMA WP7 ? I feel like one of those (you know who you are) Verizon iPhone people, just waiting and waiting....
I'll have to admit, some of those Android phones looked nice just only if they had WP7 on them, it would be great.
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Yea, nothing good, it sucks to be honest with ya.... It's not over yet (later date ?) but, I guess we'll see.
We CDMA people have to wait till Feb before we hear anything about a CDMA WP7 ? I feel like one of those (you know who you are) Verizon iPhone people, just waiting and waiting....
I'll have to admit, some of those Android phones looked nice just only if they had WP7 on them, it would be great.
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It is over on Sunday (I think) and there are still companies that need to present. I believe that Sprint has yet to present knowing that AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon already presented.
Someone said that the HTC Trophy is coming very soon. Just passed the FCC with Verizon's banding.
But all of the Android phones have skins. Oddly enough, only one of them had Gingerbread and it is not even on a US carrier anytime soon.
I am not sure if there is anything new - as in the case you haven't yet heard of - coming on MWC, MS has a single stand at the event.
i was really expecting some aha announcements from balmer and his team. just some rattling on about nothing really, ahem xbox this and that. he's really looking old and tired now.
really expecting to see some cool innovations. maybe those projector phones with 12 hour batteries and lte connectivity ? well, no.
of course there are android phones everywhere (ya i'm a big fan) but expected more there also. one dual core phone. well, ok. if i get my nexus one, g2, g1, and wifes g2 all together, i'll have 4 cores really close to each other. woooo-p.
tell the truth i'd get more excited if there was some shazam new battery tech announced that let a badass smartphone run for a week on a charge that i'd be if there was a quad core handset.
tablets, good lord tablets everywhere ! and honeycomb is really going to be tailored specifically for tablets. sweet. nice to see a company making a specific OS for tablets.
things that aren't selling me:
tablets (too big for phoning, too small for real computing)
front facing cameras
barely usable batteries
gee-wiz dual cores/quad cores
kick stands
anything that isn't a micro-usb (c'mon already, standards!)
things taht would get me hot to buy:
LTE (the upgrade to this g2 with 6-7Mbps is pretty smokin fast, i want more though)
led projector, HD quality
720p that rivaled the iphone's (their stuff is really, really , really good)
a week long battery
waterproof
drop proof
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Someone said that the HTC Trophy is coming very soon. Just passed the FCC with Verizon's banding.
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Where did you read "The Entry level WP7 device" AKA HTC The Trophy just passed FCC banding ??
If it just got passed, it could be a few months before anyone sees it... Not sure I want the Trophy anyway, it's the lowest end model out of all current WP7 phones...
I'd rather have the Pro 7 (yea, the one Sprint is getting), I was hoping for something else on Verizon than just the Trophy.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, after 1 billion planned and millions so far spent on adveristing for WP7, Verizon and Sprint will not come to market with just 1 device each.
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tell the truth i'd get more excited if there was some shazam new battery tech announced that let a badass smartphone run for a week on a charge that i'd be if there was a quad core handset.
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I want every year to hear some magical new battery that is taking over that will go from hours of use to 100's of hours of use but, nothing ever comes up. Yea, let me get a Quad core CPU on a phone that only gets 1.5 hours talk time, YEA !!!!!
Out of all the stuff they come up, they can't solve a simple battery problem ? WTF ???
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Where did you read "The Entry level WP7 device" AKA HTC The Trophy just passed FCC banding ??
If it just got passed, it could be a few months before anyone sees it... Not sure I want the Trophy anyway, it's the lowest end model out of all current WP7 phones...
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http://www.wpcentral.com/verizon-wins-trophy-verizon-s-1st-wp7-device-may-have-passed-fcc
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Where did you read "The Entry level WP7 device" AKA HTC The Trophy just passed FCC banding ??
If it just got passed, it could be a few months before anyone sees it... Not sure I want the Trophy anyway, it's the lowest end model out of all current WP7 phones...
I'd rather have the Pro 7 (yea, the one Sprint is getting), I was hoping for something else on Verizon than just the Trophy.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, after 1 billion planned and millions so far spent on adveristing for WP7, Verizon and Sprint will not come to market with just 1 device each.
I want every year to hear some magical new battery that is taking over that will go from hours of use to 100's of hours of use but, nothing ever comes up. Yea, let me get a Quad core CPU on a phone that only gets 1.5 hours talk time, YEA !!!!!
Out of all the stuff they come up, they can't solve a simple battery problem ? WTF ???
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simple? if it was so simple why wouldn't you or anyone else for that matter do it? I guess its because im an engineer and i know science that i find this statement ridiculous. Lithium is the best element for energy storage and that is already being used. This is because lithum's desire to give elections away on it outer shell (hydrogen ist because it is hofbrincl). It is really going to be hard to find something else that can work better than this. Battery cell architecture enhancements are they best way to go with this route until some kind of reaction proves better, but that can only go so far. my point, it is hard, and a new approach to energy storage will have to be solved for it to really get better so i'd quit expecting something.
ok enough of the science lesson, I was also kind of disappointed in CES. Honestly I might of gone back to andriod if there was a LTE, dual core, sim card based, high res, 8 mp with FF VGA camera, 4.3 in phone that had excellent 4G coverage and 2.3 on it but noting announced met that criteria.
I was also hoping MS would drop the flash surprise or extended limited multitasking abilty but that also failed to happen. Basically what I heard from MS was exactly what everyone already knew. Some apis that allow certian types of services (streaming music apis, chat, etc) to preform in the backgroud would of been great.
i'm walking away from CES like eh, but eventually an LTE tablet might be in my future.
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Thanks,
The HTC Pro 7 the one thought, I could not find any actual proof of it going to Sprint, the only way we know the Trophy is going to Verizon because they offered it to MS Employees.
The Trophy just passed the FCC yesterday. The HTC Pro 7 (the other CDMA "7" phone) passed the FCC 10/25/2010 and is still not here.
If someone is counting on getting it very soon, I would be shocked.
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simple? if it was so simple why wouldn't you or anyone else for that matter do it?
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Dude, calm down... I was kidding with that... We've only been with the same battery tech for 5-10+ years now ? I'm sure someone came up with something by now. I know it's not simple by any means, it just sucks that no one has solved it. Not even any proto-types or rumors, that dead on this subject.
Pretty soon, something is going to have to happen, phones get faster, need more power, phones get bigger for bigger batteries...Sounds like we are going backwards to me...
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The HTC Pro 7 the one thought, I could not find any actual proof of it going to Sprint, the only way we know the Trophy is going to Verizon because they offered it to MS Employees.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/sprints-htc-7-pro-cdma-windows-phone-7-pictured
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i'm in australia so i have the trophy already. it's decent. takes nice day photos, and good feel in the hands. would like to see the 7 Pro in australia though.
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The HTC Pro 7 the one thought, I could not find any actual proof of it going to Sprint, the only way we know the Trophy is going to Verizon because they offered it to MS Employees.
The Trophy just passed the FCC yesterday. The HTC Pro 7 (the other CDMA "7" phone) passed the FCC 10/25/2010 and is still not here.
If someone is counting on getting it very soon, I would be shocked.
Dude, calm down... I was kidding with that... We've only been with the same battery tech for 5-10+ years now ? I'm sure someone came up with something by now. I know it's not simple by any means, it just sucks that no one has solved it. Not even any proto-types or rumors, that dead on this subject.
Pretty soon, something is going to have to happen, phones get faster, need more power, phones get bigger for bigger batteries...Sounds like we are going backwards to me...
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from a simple stand point i can see your stance, but once you know the technology it makes since. Solar energy is actually the leading cause for the push in energy storage, but maybe cell phones will help push that.
What i honestly think is going to happen id the evolution of the power mat from Duracell. When the guy who invented it was still at MIT and proposing this tech he also stated in the future it would be possible to get rid of the mat and transmit power OTA. This would be a future with no batteries in cell phones thus making them the slimiest they could possibly be. However what happens when you are too far away from the tower emitting power.
This is all just FYI stuff, but if you are interested in the future of batteries this is the answer.
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Dude, calm down... I was kidding with that... We've only been with the same battery tech for 5-10+ years now ? I'm sure someone came up with something by now. I know it's not simple by any means, it just sucks that no one has solved it. Not even any proto-types or rumors, that dead on this subject.
Pretty soon, something is going to have to happen, phones get faster, need more power, phones get bigger for bigger batteries...Sounds like we are going backwards to me...
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Could be interesting... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=earth-talk-charging-ahead
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Could be interesting... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=earth-talk-charging-ahead
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Yea, very interesting, if it ever comes out, I read about that like almost a year ago, as it could hold the power, the possable problems coming out (to the world) could be really bad.
As for wireless power, cool but, at what cost? As I think about this more, someone has to pay for the power and no one is going to give power away for free. So a power system off of a tower someplace ? Never will happen, there are too many companies making money off the grid and they would never let it happen, even for small devices.
It's a nice idea over all, to have a longer range "power mat" type of system, one in your home, one in your car, one in your office so you can limit your breaks of constant power (kind of like plugging it in when your in those locations) but, then you go back to the battery tech. Try recharging your battery 5-10 times a day or more (going between locations) how long do you think your battery would last (after discharge and recharge 100's of times more a month) ????
Anyway, for Verizon cusomers... a Press statement or "event" coming on Tuesday... Said, releases, so maybe WP7 along with the iPhoney.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/verizon-holding-event-tuesday-in-nyc-but-for-what/
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front facing cameras
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Thank god I am not alone with this. Front facing cameras are basically dead. Some old Windows Mobile devices had them, but I don't think anyone ever used them.
I am waiting for Microsoft to make dual core fully optimized for dual core, it might happen 2012 though. I could wait on that.
And for data speed, I would rather wait for HSPA+ (the one with a peak of 42 mpbs) on a WP7 devices, only because I have no plans of switching carriers (all carriers work here, so doesn't really matter which one I use). LTE is pretty cool and it is available in my area.
http://wmpoweruser.com/is-the-nokia-ace-showing-up-at-a-design-museum/ here is a link to the leak of possibly the nokia 900, i believe it will come early 2012 in the US
Thats just an artist render, but yes the US will be getting a device in early 2012. January is supposedly going to be their announcement, and from what I've [heard], its a Lumia 800 type device (awesome) with possibly a larger screen and more features. This could mean a FFC and other things, but we'll just have to wait and see
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Thats just an artist render, but yes the US will be getting a device in early 2012. January is supposedly going to be their announcement, and from what I've [heard], its a Lumia 800 type device (awesome) with possibly a larger screen and more features. This could mean a FFC and other things, but we'll just have to wait and see
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doesn't even have to have a bigger screen to me, just give me a lumia with a FFC and you'll have the first mobile device that I've ever cared to use for a full year. My DVP is being replaced at 11 months some time this week by the lumia 800.
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doesn't even have to have a bigger screen to me, just give me a lumia with a FFC and you'll have the first mobile device that I've ever cared to use for a full year. My DVP is being replaced at 11 months some time this week by the lumia 800.
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Nice. I thought about ordering an 800, but I want to wait till they release one to the States, and am hoping it is a little different (ffc would be great, 32GB storage would be perfect). Let us know what you think once you get it.
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Nice. I thought about ordering an 800, but I want to wait till they release one to the States, and am hoping it is a little different (ffc would be great, 32GB storage would be perfect). Let us know what you think once you get it.
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same here i am hoping it comes to att WITHOUT THE CARRIAR LOGO i am crossing my fingers
I wouldn't count on the carrier logo being removed. Its a common trademark that almost all North American carriers seem to do.
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I wouldn't count on the carrier logo being removed. Its a common trademark that almost all North American carriers seem to do.
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well then i will try to get an unlocked nokia 900 if it comes out, it makes the phone look ugly with that carrier logo, iphones dont have that moronic carrier logo
lovenokia said:
well then i will try to get an unlocked nokia 900 if it comes out, it makes the phone look ugly with that carrier logo, iphones dont have that moronic carrier logo
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You are right, they have that moronic Apple Logo.
The N9 does not have the back, windows & search keys so it would be better to get the Windows Phone device. So its up to you if thats really that important.
I wouldn't bother with it without a larger screen. 4" is minimum for me.
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I wouldn't bother with it without a larger screen. 4" is minimum for me.
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Same here, but honestly if they keep the 3.7" screen, but up the storage to 32 and put in a FFC I would still highly consider going down a little on screen size.
I'll have it Thursday. I'm a bit nervous about the tiny screen. Haven't had a screen that small as a daily driver since the g1 (yes I know it was 3.5) fortunately the keyboard is intuitive enough that it's a non-issue.
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You are right, they have that moronic Apple Logo.
The N9 does not have the back, windows & search keys so it would be better to get the Windows Phone device. So its up to you if thats really that important.
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Lol that is a good one i dont want the nokia n9 cause i am too accustomed to windows phone 7
There's no need for concern, there will be a 900 series WP7 device. But give them a break - they just shipped their current flagship, the N9, to stores in October. Surely it deserves to be king of the hill for at least a few months.
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There's no need for concern, there will be a 900 series WP7 device. But give them a break - they just shipped their current flagship, the N9, to stores in October. Surely it deserves to be king of the hill for at least a few months.
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but some of us want it NOW i really want to just see the nokia 900 at least
I really hope Nokia puts a front facing camera on this one
I am considering buying the Lumia 900 and moving from android. I have owned windows phones before so have an idea about the os however this more specifically towards the 900 as a phone. I have seen many mixed reports on here. My questions are...
Is it worth getting over the 800 and why
I know it has a few software bugs but so does my gs3 but should this be a deal breaker?
I gather this phone won't get wp8 but is this a big issue again.. Is it really worth waiting for?
I plan to use my phone for music and also the camera... Can anyone comment on the quality of either.
How is the phone to hold in the hand.. Does it sit comfortably or feel like it may slip out.
My previous windows phone was a HTC radar which I really liked however I would like to think things have moved on a bit since then and hence why I am. Looking at the Lumia.
Thanks for your help.
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It's very tempting to purchase one now, but I highly recommend waiting, especially if you purchase a phone under a contract 2-year no-upgrade plan.
I'm buying the phone outright as I find the size of my gs3 to big for everyday use.. Contract issues are not a consideration.
Just interested in opinions /views on the phone.
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Hi
I had an SGS2 and the SGS3 did not really appeal to me , So got the Lumia 900 ( I have also had an HTC HD7 windows phone) and was really blown away..
Nokia does the best WP7 phones compared to Samsung or HTC, simply because of the Nokia Apps that are available for the phone and also because nokia is porting most of its symbian apps to wp7.
Things you want miss if coming from android like me..
1) Free turn by turn navigation ( nokia does it for free, HTC charges)
2) Camera is ok although you might have to tweak the settings a bit to squeeze the best out of it ( Nokia is doing another 'camera extras' app to enhance the camera functionality)
3) The CLear Black Amoled display is really good ( like SGS3) even in directs sunlight
4) Battery life as good as the SGS2 ( atleast for me)
5) Most apps are available or you can always pin mobile version of sites to the screen.
6) DLNA will be available via its 'Nokia Play' app next month july.
Downside
1) Its a big phone so if you don't like big phones you might have to pass this
2) No upgrade to WP8 software, only the 'START SCREEN' upto version 7.8
3) Not as many apps as android, but they are coming steadily.
Just a few I can think of....
Let me know if you need to know anything else
Considering the news released today that you won't be upgraded.... F**K Microsoft OS phones, this one in particular. Wait till apollo if you want to not be another beta tester.
Agreed with above poster. With Microsoft's announcement yesterday about no upgrade path to Windows 8 for Lumia 900 and other Windows phones.
It's best to either wait for Windows 8 phones or buy a used phone.
First I would try picking one up in a store to see how it feels in your hand. Having said that when I did that it felt bigger than I was used to and thought it may end up being too big, but now I have one it feels fine.
It's worth getting one over the 800 for two reasons:
1. Much bigger battery which you can make last well into three days on one charge - I even had 100 hours out of one charge when I was hardly using it for a few days.
2. Bigger and better display. The display is the best on any smartphone according to several reviews, and personally I find it easy to read outdoors in sunlight which was a real bugbear on my previous phone. I've also found it easier to use as a satnav with the larger size.
I've found the camera to be better than my previous HTC phone, haven't tried indoor or closeup shots yet though. The main thing I like is that call quality is good, it doesn't drop calls or distort them.
It does have some teething troubles - mine has turned itself off a couple of times, which could get annoying if it keeps happening, and also the battery sometimes starts draining faster for no apparent reason, which is cured by switching it off and on.
As for WP8, in my view it depends on whether you're buying it to use it now or buying it for what you think it ought to be able to do in six months time. I think that WP7 owners will only really be missing out on the better Skype integration that WP8 will bring, most of the rest of WP8's new features seem to require new hardware that the 900 doesn't have anyway. Reading other comments you'd think the phone was going to stop working the day WP8 comes out.
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I am considering buying the Lumia 900 and moving from android. I have owned windows phones before so have an idea about the os however this more specifically towards the 900 as a phone. I have seen many mixed reports on here. My questions are...
Is it worth getting over the 800 and why
I know it has a few software bugs but so does my gs3 but should this be a deal breaker?
I gather this phone won't get wp8 but is this a big issue again.. Is it really worth waiting for?
I plan to use my phone for music and also the camera... Can anyone comment on the quality of either.
How is the phone to hold in the hand.. Does it sit comfortably or feel like it may slip out.
My previous windows phone was a HTC radar which I really liked however I would like to think things have moved on a bit since then and hence why I am. Looking at the Lumia.
Thanks for your help.
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Just sayin': I just bought a Lumia 900 from AmazonWireless (for AT&T) for $19USD as an in-contract upgrade.
hpsauce37 said:
I am considering buying the Lumia 900 and moving from android. I have owned windows phones before so have an idea about the os however this more specifically towards the 900 as a phone. I have seen many mixed reports on here. My questions are...
Is it worth getting over the 800 and why
I know it has a few software bugs but so does my gs3 but should this be a deal breaker?
I gather this phone won't get wp8 but is this a big issue again.. Is it really worth waiting for?
I plan to use my phone for music and also the camera... Can anyone comment on the quality of either.
How is the phone to hold in the hand.. Does it sit comfortably or feel like it may slip out.
My previous windows phone was a HTC radar which I really liked however I would like to think things have moved on a bit since then and hence why I am. Looking at the Lumia.
Thanks for your help.
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1Cent on Amazon.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Nokia-Lu...=INDIVIDUAL_NEW&sr=1-1-entd&qid=1340726353934
https://twitter.com/APNWindowsPhone/status/215549101260013568
NokiaUSA is saying YES!
they said that we can get wp8 updating a few weeks ago
They also said "To clarify the post is about internet sharing..." and some other **** I give a **** about" NOT 7.8
This is too funny.... there's a video posted on the usual wp websites from just after this morning's WP8 seminar. It showed a preliminary version of the 7.8 version on an ATT lumia 900. When asked, 'can you flick it to the left so we can see the apps list?'... the MS or Nokia rep replied: "it'll crash the phone". He then explained it's just a crude test version.
Release anytime soon... not likely.
They also said they'd have a fix for the purple screen a LONG time ago, and we are still waiting for it (only AT&T got the fix)...
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They also said they'd have a fix for the purple screen a LONG time ago, and we are still waiting for it (only AT&T got the fix)...
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http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...d-ad31ea4db0d7?page=1&tm=1340284824926#footer
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http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...d-ad31ea4db0d7?page=1&tm=1340284824926#footer
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Actually... You know what, I don't even care anymore...
With the fact that my new device is already obsolete, I'll be looking for a new mobile device provider soon who's product have longer supported lifespans (and not to mention better support).
Zhariak said:
Actually... You know what, I don't even care anymore...
With the fact that my new device is already obsolete, I'll be looking for a new mobile device provider soon who's product have longer supported lifespans (and not to mention better support).
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Try iPhone. You can install the new iOS on an old phone. You won't get Siri and true GPS to work due to hardware issues but you CAN install the OS. At least they arent so weak as to use the "Hardware incompatibility" excuse.
hx4700 Killer said:
Try iPhone. You can install the new iOS on an old phone. You won't get Siri and true GPS to work due to hardware issues but you CAN install the OS. At least they arent so weak as to use the "Hardware incompatibility" excuse.
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Lumia doesn't have NFC, so yes, hardware incompatibility. derp.
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Lumia doesn't have NFC, so yes, hardware incompatibility. derp.
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Whoa, wait a second... I don't give a **** about the Wallet or NFC...
I want the OS and the majority of the capabilities... WP 7.8 is just bringing adjustments to the start screen: "Hi, we know you just blew 600 bucks on this phone which is obsolete a few days later, but hey, here's a free key chain" kinda thing...
As far as I'm concerned, I've heard that WP8 on latest gen older devices is capable..
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Whoa, wait a second... I don't give a **** about the Wallet or NFC...
I want the OS and the majority of the capabilities... WP 7.8 is just bringing adjustments to the start screen: "Hi, we know you just blew 600 bucks on this phone which is obsolete a few days later, but hey, here's a free key chain" kinda thing...
As far as I'm concerned, I've heard that WP8 on latest gen older devices is capable..
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Yeah...but don't you do that with everything else?? Your new car?? A new laptop, PC or Tablet? At least you got a key chain....
But ...the big question really is.....From where did you hear that about WP8 on latest Gen older devices?? I work very close with friends from Microsoft on Windows Phone. Never, never ever never, have they ever hinted, to me, that WP8 was going to be a broad update, or even work on old devices.
So, if you have some Steve Balmer, Terry Myerson insight...please share....
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"Hi, we know you just blew 600 bucks on this phone which is obsolete a few days later, but hey, here's a free key chain" kinda thing...
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Words of wisdom and people please stop mentioning Apple's methodology. The lumia 900 is way newer compared to the 3GS when the 4G came out.
3GS did not get all the iOS4 feature but it was already old in the market unlike the 900!
Take a Deep Breath
If you are like me, you bought the Lumia 900 hoping that, since it is a high end phone, it would be upgraded to WP8. You didn't know that for a fact, you either guessed, relied on others guesses or hoped. You rolled the dice based on a feeling that MS and Nokia would do the right thing, based upon your desires. Well, they did the right thing based upon their needs. I love my Nokia 900 on WP7.5, I'll love WP7.8 even more. It will take me a long time to grow out of WP7.8. At that time, I will upgrade my phone to WP8.x. Like most of you, I am not at all happy about this. The highest of the high end WP7 phones, just released, and not upgradeable to WP8. Sure I am mad, but mostly at myself for taking such a chance with no facts to backup a future upgrade to WP8.
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If you are like me, you bought the Lumia 900 hoping that, since it is a high end phone, it would be upgraded to WP8. You didn't know that for a fact, you either guessed, relied on others guesses or hoped. You rolled the dice based on a feeling that MS and Nokia would do the right thing, based upon your desires. Well, they did the right thing based upon their needs. I love my Nokia 900 on WP7.5, I'll love WP7.8 even more. It will take me a long time to grow out of WP7.8. At that time, I will upgrade my phone to WP8.x. Like most of you, I am not at all happy about this. The highest of the high end WP7 phones, just released, and not upgradeable to WP8. Sure I am mad, but mostly at myself for taking such a chance with no facts to backup a future upgrade to WP8.
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Agreed, pretty much sums it up for me. I took a risk, banked on MS to not depricate a "flagship" device like they HAVE NOT done so often in the past and took it in the a$$. Like I said, fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
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If you are like me, you bought the Lumia 900 hoping that, since it is a high end phone, it would be upgraded to WP8.
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Call it what you want. The phone was FREE here in the US. It was cheaper than some feature phones. I had no expectations. I got a nice very capable smartphone for free. My expectations were met.
sitizenx said:
Call it what you want. The phone was FREE here in the US. It was cheaper than some feature phones. I had no expectations. I got a nice very capable smartphone for free. My expectations were met.
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I'm locked down on contracts for the next 7+ years since every time I get a phone from my provider it breaks, so I extend to get another one discounted...
I bought the Lumia 900 outright for $600... And It's not physically busted, but now is obsolete
There's just no winning...
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I'm locked down on contracts for the next 7+ years since every time I get a phone from my provider it breaks, so I extend to get another one discounted...
There's just no winning...
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That's somewhat your fault mate! Why would you do that?!
MS messed up for sure, but let's not blame it for all our problems.
xsever said:
That's somewhat your fault mate! Why would you do that?!
MS messed up for sure, but let's not blame it for all our problems.
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I'm so mad at the whole WP8 thing, I think I am going to blame them for all my problems... And my cell provider (which is another story I'm not even going to get in to), heh
I don't want to disrespect anyone, but how could any Lumia owner not feel screwed.
Don't forget poeple that every device, comparable to Lumia 800 or 900, with different OS can run Skype, viber and other VOIP apps in the background... It seems Lumia 800 and 900 will never be able to do so.
How could you just accept that.
$135 androids have VOIP while we ($500/$600 Lumia owners) don't?!?!?!? and you're ok with it?!?!?!?!
Now I know that most Lumia owners are MS or Nokia loyals... I am one... And when others critisized the lack of apps and the inability to run Skype, I always defended both saying that apps will come and skype will be updated... "just a matter of time"... Do I feel stupid now!
I'm not saying I'm chaging to other OS... I'll probably get a new WP8 device and a surface tablet... But i can not NOT feel screwed.
BTW, I got my Lumia 800 in January... was so happy with it that I ordered the 900 about 2 weeks ago... (both factory unlocked cause we don't have contracts where I'm from)
i just got my phone less then 2 weeks ago, i'm piss... but what else can i say, i like the design, and the support from nokia seems good enough. Don't get me wrong, i'm not a WP or Nokia fanboy. Just like what JamesAllen says, i put my bet and i lose it... nothing more, nothing less, but i still like the phone, i'm gonna keep it until i feel a need to change to another
I got my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 on 20th August and less than 2 weeks later the phone is faulty and I have to sent it back. The problem is when I open the big screen as far as it goes it switches the phone off completely and I have to go to the small screen and press the power on button to swich it on. If I half open the big screen it still works.
neilfer said:
I got my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 on 20th August and less than 2 weeks later the phone is faulty and I have to sent it back. The problem is when I open the big screen as far as it goes it switches the phone off completely and I have to go to the small screen and press the power on button to swich it on. If I half open the big screen it still works.
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You didn't turn the sensor off in developer options did you? This will make the big screen unresponsive and stay off when you open it
neilfer said:
I got my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 on 20th August and less than 2 weeks later the phone is faulty and I have to sent it back. The problem is when I open the big screen as far as it goes it switches the phone off completely and I have to go to the small screen and press the power on button to swich it on. If I half open the big screen it still works.
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Did you try a factory data reset?
lawtq
I have never been in the developer options so it cant be that.
Mr. Orange 645
A factory data reset didnt fix the problem.
neilfer said:
lawtq
I have never been in the developer options so it cant be that.
Mr. Orange 645
A factory data reset didnt fix the problem.
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Damn. Sounds like a real hardware problem. Hope the new one is flawless
A mates fold was shipped without download mode - really odd fault
Meh, the fail is strong with Samsung this year.
At least hold off a bit if you want this phone; let others take the ride before you decide.
Latter production runs might also have issues fixed by then.
Issues with the S21U are also cropping up.
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Damn. Sounds like a real hardware problem. Hope the new one is flawless
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I won’t be getting another Fold 3. if the display fails in under 2 weeks there’s a good chance it could happen again.
neilfer said:
I won’t be getting another Fold 3. if the display fails in under 2 weeks there’s a good chance it could happen again.
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LMFAO. You act like every phone has this issue. Sounds like you just don't really want it.
bs3pro said:
LMFAO. You act like every phone has this issue. Sounds like you just don't really want it.
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That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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I think the probability of getting two Folds in a row with defective screens is very low. You'll be fine.
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I think the probability of getting two Folds in a row with defective screens is very low. You'll be fine.
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Maybe not. Samsung's been imploding across the board this year. With their apps and multiple device hardware failures. No joke. Multiple threads on XDA of issues and phone returns.
Just had a Wearables update puke all over me last night. It has defied a solution so far and the Buds+ only work right on phone calls.
Never saw that before.
Samsung's Good Lock app homepage graphics look horrible now too with little critters jumping around.
The Fail is strong with Samsung... now.
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That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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If you really want it, then do the warranty exchange and get a new one. No product line is 100% perfect. There will always be defective units. But that doesn't mean every single device will fail within two weeks. That's the most asinine thing I've heard all day.
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If you really want it, then do the warranty exchange and get a new one. No product line is 100% perfect. There will always be defective units. But that doesn't mean every single device will fail within two weeks. That's the most asinine thing I've heard all day.
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The best possible failure scenario is that a device does it within its return window.
So the OP was lucky in that respect.
I be pi$$ed too for all that trouble.
Meh... once bitten, twice shy.
If you preordered, Samsung included Care+ for 1 year for free. Not sure if this is offered outside of the US. It's really a great device kind of a game changer for me.
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Maybe not. Samsung's been imploding across the board this year. With their apps and multiple device hardware failures. No joke. Multiple threads on XDA of issues and phone returns.
Just had a Wearables update puke all over me last night. It has defied a solution so far and the Buds+ only work right on phone calls.
Never saw that before.
Samsung's Good Lock app homepage graphics look horrible now too with little critters jumping around.
The Fail is strong with Samsung... now.
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Samsung isn't imploding. Realize that they sell tens of millions of devices and a small minority of people who purchase their products are here complaining about things on XDA. There is no widespread news coverage of Samsung making faulty devices, well, not since the Note 7. Your post is an exaggeration.
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That’s a strange thing to say. I did want it as I paid a lot of money for the phone and expect it to last longer than 2 weeks.
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What he is trying to say is everyone phone ever released had failures in the 1st few weeks. Its not abnormal and why they have a warranty.
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Samsung isn't imploding. Realize that they sell tens of millions of devices and a small minority of people who purchase their products are here complaining about things on XDA. There is no widespread news coverage of Samsung making faulty devices, well, not since the Note 7. Your post is an exaggeration.
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Time will tell
Just order my second new 10+.
I don't share your optimism or wuv of storage deficient devices.
My first 10+ still looks, runs like it's new, fast, stable and fulfilling it's mission with 1tb of storage, soon to be expanded to 1.5tb.
I rejected the Note 20U because of poorer run time, Adroid 10, poorer color rendering and unreasonable price. Not enough bang for the buck.
So imagine what I think about every release from Samsung since then... and I'm not near as kind as you.
2021 is already a dead year for Sammy
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I won’t be getting another Fold 3. if the display fails in under 2 weeks there’s a good chance it could happen again.
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That's a good choice... Look for golden reviewer on YouTube and you'll see that this phone while it has Snapdragon 888 performs even worse than 855/865 phones lmao.
It throttles so hard that on games that other phones run at 90fps+ it scores 30 FPS sustained with dips below 10 FPS lmao ( pubg and genshin )
It's a shet performer, buy yourself a better device
Rstment ^m^ said:
That's a good choice... Look for golden reviewer on YouTube and you'll see that this phone while it has Snapdragon 888 performs even worse than 855/865 phones lmao.
It throttles so hard that on games that other phones run at 90fps+ it scores 30 FPS sustained with dips below 10 FPS lmao ( pubg and genshin )
It's a shet performer, buy yourself a better device
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There's literally a setting to make it run at max capability. From factory it doesn't run at max. You just flip the setting and it will run at max. They did it to preserve battery. Because realistically only games will utilize the entire power of an 888.
Phone cpus are progressing faster than use case. Oneplus just got in a debacle about this, mainly because they did it without giving you the ability to stop the throttling.