Develop Bugs

[Q] Unroot a custom rom?

Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?

Tweak_four17 said:
Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want to unroot, you'll need to go back to stock.
The reason they want unrooted phones, is not so much a security issue, as it is they just don't understand or don't wish to deal with possible problems.

If you backup your apps and data you can run the official RUU, and it will put the original unrooted system to your phone. I don't know other method.
Here are the official ROMs: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo

Removing the SU binaries will unroot you, I don't see the need as to why you have to be unrooted though.

apparently you can't use the new movie-rental feature of google's market, when you are rooted.
Is it possible to stick to a custom rom but unroot it, so that google recognises your phone as a not-rooted device and allows you to watch movies from market?
I don't need root-permissions every day - in fact I only need it for Titanium Backup, so deleting su-binaries and/or superuser.apk would be ok - but it must be possible to restore them (via recovery/adb) to run TB.
This probably isn't what google wants you to do since you can download the movie to watch later and if you have a working recovery you probably could get you hands on the downloaded files, but still - would be nice, if this was possible.

Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down

How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!

madcr0w said:
Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congratulations for not reading the post. Here is your cookie.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Demonic idea
kuroneko007 said:
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like your idea mate! Hahahahahaha....
Edit: Bad boy! Bad bad boy! hahahahahahahaha....

kuroneko007 said:
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Has anyone ever tested this?

Or why don't you just delete superuser via adb or android commander

good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.

List:
/system/app/superuser
/system/bin/su
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
Edit:
yep this works perfectly.

vvelumm said:
I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
Edit:
yep this works perfectly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You renamed SU.apk to SU.apk.bak most likely...
What did you rename the libs file to?

vvelumm said:
good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have rooted my HTC Salsa to get apps2sd which is great, but now my mobile banking app says it will not work on a rooted device, similar to your issue.
I am new to android modding, what commands do i need to enter where to rename the files you mention ?
Thanks in advance.
Mike

wont work good enterprises would more than likely check every time like sky go. you would have to removed a2sd command line i think and all su binarys ( and su.akp ( difficult as its normally a system app and once one of the su has been removed you dont have premition to remove the other/
and to the donunt who said ( the dont understand root) wanna cookie 0. basicly good enterprise is a secure web client for companys to send information to mobiles, i have it on my work (iphone) <<<< scummmy.. anyways as root gives to the option to do what ever you or anyone else wants with the phone in theory you could use that system to breack the law or for instance chaindd could possible put an update in to su that will take data from the company> for google videos ) well with root you can screen record ( basicly ) excuse the spelling im trying to find out how to un root and keep all of my system ui mods and themes and my rom ( proving difficult)

hey I know that this is based on a old post but I have a question did you ever find out how to unroot a custom rom that is pre-rooted?

[Q] what do I loose when I factory reset

Hello,
I am going to root my phone soon using an XTC clip, and I read that I have to factory reset my phone before flashing a ROM.
My main concern is my apps. Will, when I flash a ROM and use the phone again, my apps still be there in the market? I have free shazam for example (because i downloaded it before it became a paid app), and I want to know if it will afterwards still know I should get a free version.
Or will, when you factory reset, all the apps be gone from the market aswel? I read titanium backup is great, but that it only works when rooted, so I can't use that.
Thanks for your input

what do I loose when I factory reset
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
everything lol. includes phone apps, market downloaded apps, all accounts data, all application data, phone calender entries, and what not.
--if one is on official unrooted phone and made factory reset, then he will loose all phone memory related things except the operating system.
--if one is on rooted phone (with custom recovery) and made factory reset, then he will loose all the phone memory related things including the operating system.
Ok, if u have asked a question like what do i retain when i factory reset, then the answer will be. Everything that can be kept online like gmail contacts, gmail calender entries. And every application data or cache data that will be saved on memory card like google maps data, dictionaries data etc. I dont know about the memory card apps whether they will work after factory reset. ok
Hello,
I am going to root my phone soon using an XTC clip, and I read that I have to factory reset my phone before flashing a ROM.
My main concern is my apps. Will, when I flash a ROM and use the phone again, my apps still be there in the market? I have free shazam for example (because i downloaded it before it became a paid app), and I want to know if it will afterwards still know I should get a free version.
Or will, when you factory reset, all the apps be gone from the market aswel? I read titanium backup is great, but that it only works when rooted, so I can't use that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
u need to search and download each and every app again from the market. I think it wont make a note of the list of ur apps.
But u have many options.
--u can now use xtc clip to s-off ur device. then donot downgrade. just flash a custom recovery by PC49IMG.ZIP process. Then u can make a nandroid backup of the present os. And while restoring, u will have few options regarding what to restore. Or alternative to nandroid backup, u can just use a titanium backup here as ur phone is rooted.
--u cannot have free access to shazam further unless u back it up now.
--Its not just the "titanium backup" which will back up the apps. There are many freeware application managers in the market which back up the phone apps to apk files on the memory card. just go to the market and have a look at.

Maybe the thread title was badly chosen, the question was more about the apps Too bad, I was hoping it was somewhere stored with google, and that it would simply re-download the apps after the flashing.
But so I will use the XTC clip to s-off and then backup my stuff.
Cheers

[Q] Integrating system updates into ROM

My Desire's running the current Stock ROM, and is rooted via Unrevoked with S-Off via AlphaRev.
I'm constantly skirting close to the 15Mb remaining data limit. The thing is, I'm running fewer apps than ever before these days, what with apps getting bigger and system updates using up precious memory space.
So I thought I'd use Titanium Backup to integrate the system updates into the ROM and free up data space. So I nandroided, s-off'd and ran the batch to integrate the updates into the ROM.
The apps in question (off the top of my head) were Flash, Maps, Gmail, Youtube, Market, and a couple of others.
It didn't work.
At first it looked as if it had, but I was getting force closes when I ran them.
I tried doing a force close repair via ROM Manager, but that didn't help.
The only thing that did work was apparently Flash. But then I was browsing around because I didn't getting the memory back I was expecting and I can still see the flash files in data.
So the updates have been recovered back into data and I'm back where I started.
So how do I do this?
Should TB work? What's the best way to actually integrate these files into the ROM? Which files need moving? Is flash just libflashplayer.so, because there are 3 other flash .so files? Do I need to modify anything to point to the new locations?
I really hope that the new gingerbread ROM doesn't immediately need system updates, but I expect to be disappointed.
Ta
Matt

To be honest I don't really know the answer I've never tried.... Could it be the permissions? Root Explorer - data/apps... find app you want and edit permissions ?
Why not just get apps2sd or data2sd?

I'm not against apps2sd or data2sd, it's just that I dodn't like the idea of having two versions of the same app on the phone - it's just a waste.
I'm thinking I'll apply the upgrade when it comes (if it's any good) - hopefully most of the system app updates will be built in already. Then I'll look for a version that strips back system to the bare minimum and repartitions to minimise system/maximise data, and also has apps2sd or data2sd (not sure which at the mo).
I do find it strange, though, that so few experiences of TB's integrate into ROM feature are discussed on the net.
ta
Matt

Root issues HTC Desire

Hi all, hope this is in the right section.
I rooted my Desire last night using unRevoked 3.3 with the intention of removing all the bloatware on my phone and forcing most of the apps onto the sd card.
My phone seems to have rooted fine, i have the Superuser Permissions application on there, and Titanium backup pro seems to be working too.
Now when i use Titanium backup to try and remove programs such as Stocks, News and Weather, News etc... I click on the app in the list, click un-install and then it tells me its uninstalled. However the apps still appear in my menu and are still there following a reboot. Ive also tried another method using Super Manager and that doesent seem to work either. The apps are still there following them being 'uninstalled'.
Also, similar situation with the SD card, i downloaded Move2SD enabler and that doesent seem to let me move certain apps like Maps, Facebook and others.
Any idea where im going wrong? Im on stock 2.2. My phone is in debug usb mode too.
Any help would be great.
Cheers

The apps you want to remove/move are system apps in stock roms. So you cannot do such things, because you are not s-off. But you might be able to do the things you want with adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
How to install adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Install_the_Android_SDK

Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.

k3lcior said:
Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He did not flash a rom. He is just using stock rom. There is nothing to delete from a zip file, because there is no zip file he wants to flash.

Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.

k3lcior said:
Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
To remove system apps in running system with an app, you have to be s-off.

MatDrOiD said:
Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess you know better than him, fine.

k3lcior said:
I guess you know better than him, fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was just a clue, had nothing to do with knowledge.
Nevertheless, we should stop filling this thread with our senseless discussion.

haha thanks for the responses guys!
ive been looking at all the custom roms and whilst most of them look pretty cool, im quite happy with whats already on there at the moment, im just bored of seeing my phone telling me i dont have enough internal space etc... so i wanted to root and move as many apps onto the sd card as possible and delete all the unwanted stuff that im constantly closing in taskiller.
i did read something about putting the phone into s-off mode, i guess this is the way to go in regards to deleting the unwanted system apps?
also i believe that i cannot move facebook or google maps onto the sd card, am i correct?

Best option is flashing custom ROM, you could remove any apps you want from the flashable .zip file, and give you an unlimited storage for apps - A2SD. (well limited by SD Card capacity)
You can also S-OFF and remove apps you dont want, but it will barely help as you will probably still run with "low internal storage" errors at some point.
Also with stock ROM you are running, most apps wont be able to move onto SD anyways.
There are custom rom's based on Froyo 2.2 if you like it.

i guess i will look into flashing a ROM. i didnt really want to do that as i didnt want to have to reinstall everything etc... but i guess its the only way i will be satisifed lol.

Just make backup with Titanium Backup and then restore it.

Htc 10 root

Hello, i would like to root my HTC 10 and also maybe get some custom ROM. I watched many guides on the internet but every method is different a bit. So i would like to ask here because im bit lost in these guids.
1. Can i root without loosing all my data? If not, what should i use as my backup app or method?
2. Can i somehow backup my apps, so they will install automatically after the root? I mean without 50x clicking on "yes i accept" or something like that.
3. Which roms would u recommend to me and why?
4. What is the best way to root it right now? (all these guids are from year 2016 so it can be outdated i guess)
5. Thanks alot.

FTWDiesel said:
Hello, i would like to root my HTC 10 and also maybe get some custom ROM. I watched many guides on the internet but every method is different a bit. So i would like to ask here because im bit lost in these guids.
1. Can i root without loosing all my data? If not, what should i use as my backup app or method?
2. Can i somehow backup my apps, so they will install automatically after the root? I mean without 50x clicking on "yes i accept" or something like that.
3. Which roms would u recommend to me and why?
4. What is the best way to root it right now? (all these guids are from year 2016 so it can be outdated i guess)
5. Thanks alot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1 & 2. If you want to root your phone for free you'll need to unlock your bootloader first, which will wipe your phone anyway. Your apps should automatically be restored from your google account afterwards, if you have automatic backups enabled. You should still backup all of your pictures/music/files manually to your sd card or computer. Also I like to backup my texts and call log using Call Log Backup and Restore. Same for whatsapp, or any other folder you want to restore afterwards.
3. I use stock. Leedroid and Viper are probably the most popular ones. Close enough to stock with many customization options.
4. Best way to root is through Magisk. Doesn't modify your system and you can hide root for apps that don't allow it. If you go straight to a custom rom after unlocking your bootloader, you won't need to root separately.
5. You're welcome.

Tarima said:
1 & 2. If you want to root your phone for free you'll need to unlock your bootloader first, which will wipe your phone anyway. Your apps should automatically be restored from your google account afterwards, if you have automatic backups enabled. You should still backup all of your pictures/music/files manually to your sd card or computer. Also I like to backup my texts and call log using Call Log Backup and Restore. Same for whatsapp, or any other folder you want to restore afterwards.
3. I use stock. Leedroid and Viper are probably the most popular ones. Close enough to stock with many customization options.
4. Best way to root is through Magisk. Doesn't modify your system and you can hide root for apps that don't allow it. If you go straight to a custom rom after unlocking your bootloader, you won't need to root separately.
5. You're welcome.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks alot for your answer. How did u mean that apps will install automaticaly? I dont know how to enable automatic backups. How can i do that?

FTWDiesel said:
Thanks alot for your answer. How did u mean that apps will install automaticaly? I dont know how to enable automatic backups. How can i do that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Settings, Backup and Reset.
Not sure if enabling it will immediately back everything up.
After your phone is wiped, it asks you for your Google account and then which apps you want to restore. Not sure if app data is backed up/restored as well.

Tarima said:
Settings, Backup and Reset.
Not sure if enabling it will immediately back everything up.
After your phone is wiped, it asks you for your Google account and then which apps you want to restore. Not sure if app data is backed up/restored as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, thanks alot again.