Hello,
I am going to root my phone soon using an XTC clip, and I read that I have to factory reset my phone before flashing a ROM.
My main concern is my apps. Will, when I flash a ROM and use the phone again, my apps still be there in the market? I have free shazam for example (because i downloaded it before it became a paid app), and I want to know if it will afterwards still know I should get a free version.
Or will, when you factory reset, all the apps be gone from the market aswel? I read titanium backup is great, but that it only works when rooted, so I can't use that.
Thanks for your input
what do I loose when I factory reset
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everything lol. includes phone apps, market downloaded apps, all accounts data, all application data, phone calender entries, and what not.
--if one is on official unrooted phone and made factory reset, then he will loose all phone memory related things except the operating system.
--if one is on rooted phone (with custom recovery) and made factory reset, then he will loose all the phone memory related things including the operating system.
Ok, if u have asked a question like what do i retain when i factory reset, then the answer will be. Everything that can be kept online like gmail contacts, gmail calender entries. And every application data or cache data that will be saved on memory card like google maps data, dictionaries data etc. I dont know about the memory card apps whether they will work after factory reset. ok
Hello,
I am going to root my phone soon using an XTC clip, and I read that I have to factory reset my phone before flashing a ROM.
My main concern is my apps. Will, when I flash a ROM and use the phone again, my apps still be there in the market? I have free shazam for example (because i downloaded it before it became a paid app), and I want to know if it will afterwards still know I should get a free version.
Or will, when you factory reset, all the apps be gone from the market aswel? I read titanium backup is great, but that it only works when rooted, so I can't use that.
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u need to search and download each and every app again from the market. I think it wont make a note of the list of ur apps.
But u have many options.
--u can now use xtc clip to s-off ur device. then donot downgrade. just flash a custom recovery by PC49IMG.ZIP process. Then u can make a nandroid backup of the present os. And while restoring, u will have few options regarding what to restore. Or alternative to nandroid backup, u can just use a titanium backup here as ur phone is rooted.
--u cannot have free access to shazam further unless u back it up now.
--Its not just the "titanium backup" which will back up the apps. There are many freeware application managers in the market which back up the phone apps to apk files on the memory card. just go to the market and have a look at.
Maybe the thread title was badly chosen, the question was more about the apps Too bad, I was hoping it was somewhere stored with google, and that it would simply re-download the apps after the flashing.
But so I will use the XTC clip to s-off and then backup my stuff.
Cheers
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Dear All
Having a rooted Desire with Froyo and Apps2SD+, i needed to migrate to a bigger 16 GB card. In that (failed) effort I decided to remove all apps and then restore them.
I backed them up via MybAckup Pro and Titanium Backup. Then, after reboot, no backups were detected by TB. I even wrote to the support but no answer. I had to revert to MyBackup Pro which apparently had a mind of its own regarding which apps to restore. Now Google Maps is missing on my phone and neither will it install. Also, com.gapps are closing on me every minute.
I have decided to do a factory reset but it'd be nice if a few questions are answered first:
1) I understand that NANDROID is the best way to back up; however, it doesn't provide me a way to restore apps one by one or in batches. Any solutions?
2) When I do a factory reset, will I end up with a clean phone with root and my current custom ROM, or the phone as it came from Orange?
3) Is there a way to install Google Maps and to remove the gapps errors without factory reset?
4) If I restore from NANDROID after factory reset, will all the errors/instability come back as well?
Thanks
1) Nandroid does an image of your custom phone, like for example Norton Ghost would do. Its like saving the setup/state of the phone at the time you do the backup.
2) A factory reset deletes all user data. You end with your current ROM as it was a clean install, it will not change the ROM you're using. If you're using a custom ROM you will still be with that custom ROM.
3) Can't Google Maps be downloaded from Market? Also you can try to extract the .apk from a ROM and copy it to yours via adb for example. As for the errors I dont really know if they're because data corruption and a reset will fix them or its the apk that isnt working as intended.
4) As I said earlier, doing a Nandroid is doing an image of the current state of the phone. If you do a Nandroid of a phone that has errors and you restore it, the errors wont disapear.
If you want to have a backup of the list of apps you already have you can use AppBrain. Its a little app that syncs your list of apps from the phone into a google account so when you do a full wipe you have only to install that app again and sync with the saved google list of apps. It wont save the data of the aplications but it will save the list of the ones you've installed.
Azureus: That is a most helpful reply, I sincerely appreciate it.
Google maps is not appearing in the market. I tried to sideload it and it still doesn't install. Thanks for the GREAT AppBrain trick.
I would appreciate if you could answer:
1) Which is the best, most stable custom ROM to use with official Froyo+Sense, Apps2SD+ ? I have doubts about stability of current ROM.
2) Which app can enable me to back up apps and then restore them one by one, given that Titanium Backup is not working for me somehow?
1) I personally use OpenDesire and its a non Sense UI ROM, so I dont really know what Sense UI ROM is the best. I've tryed several Sense UI ROMs and two that gave me a good feeling where LeeDrOiD Mod and the official Sense ROM of OpenDesire Team.
2) I've tryed several apps for data backups and the one that I liked most was Titanium Backup... May I ask why isnt working for you? I've tested both the free and donate version and they seem to work pretty well...
Thanks. Will try Leedroid now.
As for titanium, or backs up everything all right but when I try to restore it shows nothing. Don't know why is that
Titanium Backup saves the backups by default in a folder as the same name as the app in your SD. Have you tried deleting all the folder and doing backups again to see if the restore works? You can also go to settings and change the default folder in which it saves the backup to see if its a problem with de folder/SD or its the app.
I did a lot of reading before I did this to be sure I wouldn't lose anything. Here's the step by step for others, since I was unable to find it all in one place. This is for the MT4G/Glacier, no idea if the process is similar on other phones. You should probably still read, but I couldn't find any of this all in one place:
If you flash, here's what you need:
- Rooted phone (if you need to root, search for the gfree method, it's the easiest)
- ROM Manager from the Market. Get the premium version.
- TitaniumBackup from the Market.
- Sync turned on for your contacts and calendars in your google account.
1. Go into TitaniumBackup, set the option to store the settings on the SDCard. Go into Backup/Restore, hit menu, and run the batch to do a full backup of system and user apps/data.
2. Go into ROM Manager. At the top, click the option to install ClockworkRecovery. Make sure it installs version 3.0.0.5. Then click the option to reboot into recovery mode. In recovery, make a ROM backup of your existing ROM. It will store on the SD card. Reboot back into the OS.
3. Go back into ROM Manager, scroll down to Download ROM's. You should see CM7 Nightlies in there. Download the latest build. It will ask you if you want to also download the GAPPS package, grab that also. When it's done, it will ask you what you want to do... just cancel. Go to reboot in recovery mode.
4. In recovery:
- Wipe/Factory Reset
- Clear cache partition
- Advanced -> clear Dalvik cache
- On main screen, install ZIP from SD
- Navigate to sdcard->clockworkmod->downloads->teamdouche and select the CM7 zip for your phone that was downloaded
- When that is done, install another zip from sd, go into the goo.inside.me directory and install GAPPS zip
- Reboot phone from main menu
5. Enter your gmail creds that you used for your primary account from before
6. Cancel the additional downloads thing when it pops up, this will pop up again later after you enable wireless
7. Go into ROM Manager, Select the Fix Permissions option, reboot (wifi won't work unless you do this)
8. Enable wifi and join to your network
9. Eventually you will get the popup again. Select the stuff that you want installed.
It will pull down all of your apps from the market and install them. If you want to restore user data for the apps, you can go into titanium and click on the app, and restore it with the data. Don't do this until it's done updating from the market. Do NOT restore system level stuff. You will cause problems if you restore system level stuff from 2.2 or earlier on 2.3.x.
You should also install SetCPU from the market, set to start on boot, set conservative mode, and create a screen off profile that limits to 368mhz/conservative. In advanced, leave the defaults, except change the cpu up threshold to 75, and the scaling percent to 11 or 12. Massive battery improvements. You can overclock with this also, mine is only overclocked to around 1100mhz. Some people are running 1800mhz. I heard smartass mode instead of conservative is also good, but haven't tried it.
Keep in mind that if you have an HTC phone with the Sense Framework, you won't have that anymore. So if you liked the Sense dialer (which I did), you can't get it. The stock dialer is functional, but not the best. DialerOne and Dialer2 look the most interesting, but they still aren't as good. If you have CSipSimple installed, remove it. CM7 has SIP built into it, and CSipSimple confuses the phone when trying to make calls. If you liked the Sense clock widget, you can get a replacement, search for Beautiful Widgets on the market. The built in camera app is not Sense either, but does all the same things. The Gallery is awesome, best gallery I've ever seen (stacks that you can pull apart and flip through, very cool).
If GPS doesn't work, download GPS Status from the market and use it to clear the A-GPS data and cache. It's the only app that can do it. It's free.
Also, if you want to go back to your previous ROM, you can flash back with the ROM Manager backup that you made. The only thing is, you'll have to downgrade the clockwork recovery bootloader to 2.5.1.2 first. You can do this by flashing a zip from your SD card. The zip is available somewhere on these forums. I don't have a link, but you can find it by searching a bit. The 3.0.0.5 version cannot flash a Froyo or earlier ROM for some reason. I'm not going back, so I haven't done this.
My TitaniumBackup realized somehow that I installed fresh, and it automatically restored my apps and data. It did NOT on my friend's phone. But, he has the free version and I have the paid one. If it doesn't restore your app settings, you can manually go in and do it. One thing that I've never been able to restore is Good corporate email. It restores, but it won't send or receive. If anyone has ideas on this, post them.
Note that I flashed with build 35, and it's been rock solid. Your mileage may vary. If you already have the software noted above, the whole process only takes about 5-10 mins.
Edit: Recovery 3.0.0.6 was released, and works with 2.2 and 2.3. So you wouldn't have to downgrade the recovery to go back a version. As of this edit, you can grab it here if it's not showing up in ROM Manager yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952433
Something to add... if you are using ADW or LPP do a backup if those also. I find that if you install it fresh from the market and not TB then press restore settings in their preferences it will load all the custom icons and custom dock. It saves alot of time. Nice writup for the peeps that need the pointers for a fresh and fast install of a nightly
FYI, Titanium backup works great at restoring apps. I would be weary of restoring data between android versions however, because some of the data will be of a different type and could cause lots of issues. Thats the reason for the full data wipe before flashing in the first place.
option94 said:
FYI, Titanium backup works great at restoring apps. I would be weary of restoring data between android versions however, because some of the data will be of a different type and could cause lots of issues. Thats the reason for the full data wipe before flashing in the first place.
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I thought that was mostly because of system. The apps themselves still store their data in sqlite databases, and their schema should not change between versions of the actual OS. I might be wrong.
app data is fine, system data is what causes issues. I should have been more specific.
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app data is fine, system data is what causes issues. I should have been more specific.
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The only system stuff I install is the accounts back up, email data, wifi access points, and account and sync settings. I usually dont have a problem installing this kind of stuff. I had a few problems in the past restoring some system stuff and it made things not work, a lot of force closes. etc.. I would open up say the sound settings in settings and it would never open it would fc 100% of the time. You know I bet a lot of the issues people have with stuff not working when other's have no problems are due to bad restores. I have not once in any of the builds(since 26 when I started flashing CM 7) had an issue with wifi or gps(knock on wood)
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FYI, Titanium backup works great at restoring apps. I would be weary of restoring data between android versions however, because some of the data will be of a different type and could cause lots of issues. Thats the reason for the full data wipe before flashing in the first place.
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But the market automatically downloads all your apps for you. last time i did a full wipe i only used TB to restore data only, since the apps had been installed automatically from market.
You can use My Backup Pro to back up your SMS and MMS, plus bookmarks and a few other things. Very useful if you want to wipe and save your text.
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You can use My Backup Pro to back up your SMS and MMS, plus bookmarks and a few other things. Very useful if you want to wipe and save your text.
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Checkout sms backup+
It backs up all texts to your gmail account automatically.
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You can use My Backup Pro to back up your SMS and MMS, plus bookmarks and a few other things. Very useful if you want to wipe and save your text.
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You can also use My Backup Root (free in market) It is the same as My Backup pro but it is free.
Ok so I just barely rooted and flashed cm7 #40 to my glacier. Everthing is great. I love the rom. I just need help on 2 things. First, how do I get my contacts to sync back to my phone? I had done a factory reset twice before and they always synced back after I logged in my gmail account but not this time. I did sync my gmail before rooting and flashing and I also backed everything up with titanium backup but nothing. Second, when I first flashed the cm7 #40 rom I liked how when I locked the screen it shut off like if you were turning off a tv. I don't know what I did that it does not do it anymore. If anyone knows hows to fix my 2 problems I greatly appriciate it. Thanx.
EDIT: I figured out how to get the screen off animation back but I still have problems getting my contacts to push back to my phone. If anyone knows how to get them to sync it would be helpful.
EDIT#2: Figured out how to get contacts back. Was not able to sync them but just went to the tmo website, wrote them down and re-added them to my phone.
issues after upgrade to gb
I have rooted and upgraded to cm7. I have followed all directions, however, i do not have android market or any google apps reinstalled on the phone. Something got messed up during the upgrade, anyone got any ideas how i can install android market back on my phone? This is a big issue for me, i can not even get back into my titanium backup. How do i recover it from sd card? PLEASE HELP!!!! Stressing big time over this!! Also, when i try to set up my account to sync the contacts its asking for a domain name, i assume its for gmail, how do i find it? Any examples or ideas? I lost a grip of contacts, over 200! Please help!!! Thank you!
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I have rooted and upgraded to cm7. I have followed all directions, however, i do not have android market or any google apps reinstalled on the phone. Something got messed up during the upgrade, anyone got any ideas how i can install android market back on my phone? This is a big issue for me, i can not even get back into my titanium backup. How do i recover it from sd card? PLEASE HELP!!!! Stressing big time over this!! Also, when i try to set up my account to sync the contacts its asking for a domain name, i assume its for gmail, how do i find it? Any examples or ideas? I lost a grip of contacts, over 200! Please help!!! Thank you!
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Did you install the GAPPS zip that came with the rom? if you didn't, do. Its the google apps file. That will load the market and apps.
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Ok so I just barely rooted and flashed cm7 #40 to my glacier. Everthing is great. I love the rom. I just need help on 2 things. First, how do I get my contacts to sync back to my phone? I had done a factory reset twice before and they always synced back after I logged in my gmail account but not this time. I did sync my gmail before rooting and flashing and I also backed everything up with titanium backup but nothing. Second, when I first flashed the cm7 #40 rom I liked how when I locked the screen it shut off like if you were turning off a tv. I don't know what I did that it does not do it anymore. If anyone knows hows to fix my 2 problems I greatly appriciate it. Thanx.
EDIT: I figured out how to get the screen off animation back but I still have problems getting my contacts to push back to my phone. If anyone knows how to get them to sync it would be helpful.
EDIT#2: Figured out how to get contacts back. Was not able to sync them but just went to the tmo website, wrote them down and re-added them to my phone.
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howd you get the animations back?
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howd you get the animations back?
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wiped, re-flashed the rom and re-boot. it was the only way i was able to get the animation back.
I'm curious if there's a way to batch-restore data only in Titanium Backup? Only way I can see is to do it app by app.
Likewise, any way to batch-backup data only?
Hi. What do I need in order to backup my SMS, emails, gmail, google and samsung accounts settings, general phone settings, etc, as I assume they'll get wiped if I flash firmware? Apps I'm not to bothered, I'll make a list then redownload.
Clockwork mod..
Google account sync...
Titanium backup...
My backup pro...
SMS backup from market is free for SMS.
Thanks for the suggestions. Seeing as how Titanium backup and My backup pro are all in one backup apps, they interest me the most. My Backup Pro is most appealing to me, looks dead easy to use.
But the titanium one says I need to be rooted, is that right? But I'm not rooted, so I guess it won't back up my stuff?
My Backup Pro, according to someone, you need to pay to have extra online storage as it only gives you 100mb?
It also says it needs to be rooted: "NOTE: Data/setting of applications can only be supported if you have a rooted phone, or if the application integrates with us."
Depending on the rom, you may not need to wipe.
I would recommend Titanium backup, it can do everything you want.
You cant restore everything, in titamium backup, items in red are ones you shouldnt restore unless you are willing to risk things breaking, green is for useful+safe things (eg sms's, account settings, call history) and user apps can for the most part be back'ed up and restores however you wish (data+app, just data).
You will need a rooted phone, which means odin flashing a kernel.
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Depending on the rom, you may not need to wipe.
I would recommend Titanium backup, it can do everything you want.
You cant restore everything, in titamium backup, items in red are ones you shouldnt restore unless you are willing to risk things breaking, green is for useful+safe things (eg sms's, account settings, call history) and user apps can for the most part be back'ed up and restores however you wish (data+app, just data).
You will need a rooted phone, which means odin flashing a kernel.
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Thanks veyka. Ah well, I don't think I'll bother then since you confirmed i need a rooted phone, it's more hassle than it's worth. Guess I'll get the free SMS app which was suggested, redownload apps myself, transfer photos and movies manually to my hard drive, and re-do my phone settings. Not bothered about emails really since they're all duplicated on my pc anyway.
"Depending on the rom, you may not need to wipe." Well, all I want to do is upgrade from android 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 on my stock ROM to improve battery life.
Apparently I need to use ODIN which will wipe stuff, unless that's not the case or unless there's some other way to upgrade to 2.3.4 without losing stuff on the phone?
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"Depending on the rom, you may not need to wipe." Well, all I want to do is upgrade from android 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 on my stock ROM to improve battery life.
Apparently I need to use ODIN which will wipe stuff, unless that's not the case or unless there's some other way to upgrade to 2.3.4 without losing stuff on the phone?
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You can wait for the official Samsung 2.3.4 firmware upgrade to be rolled out via KIES for your phone .
jje
JJEgan said:
You can wait for the official Samsung 2.3.4 firmware upgrade to be rolled out via KIES for your phone .
jje
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Ye, I was considering that from a warranty pov amongst other things. Is there word on an approximate relase date? Also, I don't have WI-FI for Kies Air. Will it be a file I can download to PC then use kies to transfer to my phone, just like I do now when connecting the USB cable and Kies comes up on screen then shows my phone's internal storage on my PC screen?
hello everybody,
I updated my GSM Galaxy Nexus to Jelly Bean and after few hours of checking how it was with its new OS I decided to do a factory reset to be sure everything was clean before starting to put my apps, music, videos and so on... I chcecked what app were system app just to know if I was going to lose something special, but there was nothing more than some updates on GMail, Google Earth and others (the rest were system apps)...
But... SURPRISE... after the factory reset I found I've lost Play Magazine, the Google "Shazam-style" widgets and others system goodies...
How is that possible? Does the factory reset delete also system applications?
My GNex is yakju Galaxy Nexus i9250, completely untouched, no root, no unlocked, no nothing... just bought!!!
Thanks to everyone that will answer to my question.
Bye
They disappears if you are not in US.
Some say unfreezing those apps using TB fixes the issue.
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They disappears if you are not in US.
Some say unfreezing those apps using TB fixes the issue.
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thanks a lot for your answer. if I restore flashing a stock version of the ROM using the GNex toolkit will I get the m back?
They are not gone, still there but are US specific. You need to use titanium backup to unfreeze them. As I've learned here never tried it as I don't have a use for them anyway.
To know if you have them remove your sim and factory reset and do not log in to WiFi, and you will see all the goodies are already installed. Now use your WiFi or put the sin and they will disappear again.
If you use the factory image, the apps will get frozen the first time you reboot your phone. Also unfreezing them with Titanium Backup will not survive a reboot.
Since you haven't logged in to a Wifi or unlocked your SIM, the phone doesn't know your location on the first boot. -> The apps will be there after a new flash or factory reset.
Boot your phone and all apps that can't be used in your country will get frozen. Travel to the US, log into a Wifi or put in a US SIM and reboot your phone. -> All apps will get unfrozen.
Ok interested...
Androidme aosp + market access on boot installed all the body's and still available.
id like to ask a question regarding the factory reset on jb...
im on a custom rom, and i just realized that when i launch the factory reset...although it warns me that it will delete all my musica nd photos, it deletes nothing...ofcourse it removes all apps and when it restarts ...its all fresh configuration...but still my data are all there(even the app data)...
sorry if this is obvious, or just an idiotic question...but do you guys/ladies have the same thing?and how can really format my 'sdcard'?
thanks
Hello, i would like to root my HTC 10 and also maybe get some custom ROM. I watched many guides on the internet but every method is different a bit. So i would like to ask here because im bit lost in these guids.
1. Can i root without loosing all my data? If not, what should i use as my backup app or method?
2. Can i somehow backup my apps, so they will install automatically after the root? I mean without 50x clicking on "yes i accept" or something like that.
3. Which roms would u recommend to me and why?
4. What is the best way to root it right now? (all these guids are from year 2016 so it can be outdated i guess)
5. Thanks alot.
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Hello, i would like to root my HTC 10 and also maybe get some custom ROM. I watched many guides on the internet but every method is different a bit. So i would like to ask here because im bit lost in these guids.
1. Can i root without loosing all my data? If not, what should i use as my backup app or method?
2. Can i somehow backup my apps, so they will install automatically after the root? I mean without 50x clicking on "yes i accept" or something like that.
3. Which roms would u recommend to me and why?
4. What is the best way to root it right now? (all these guids are from year 2016 so it can be outdated i guess)
5. Thanks alot.
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1 & 2. If you want to root your phone for free you'll need to unlock your bootloader first, which will wipe your phone anyway. Your apps should automatically be restored from your google account afterwards, if you have automatic backups enabled. You should still backup all of your pictures/music/files manually to your sd card or computer. Also I like to backup my texts and call log using Call Log Backup and Restore. Same for whatsapp, or any other folder you want to restore afterwards.
3. I use stock. Leedroid and Viper are probably the most popular ones. Close enough to stock with many customization options.
4. Best way to root is through Magisk. Doesn't modify your system and you can hide root for apps that don't allow it. If you go straight to a custom rom after unlocking your bootloader, you won't need to root separately.
5. You're welcome.
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1 & 2. If you want to root your phone for free you'll need to unlock your bootloader first, which will wipe your phone anyway. Your apps should automatically be restored from your google account afterwards, if you have automatic backups enabled. You should still backup all of your pictures/music/files manually to your sd card or computer. Also I like to backup my texts and call log using Call Log Backup and Restore. Same for whatsapp, or any other folder you want to restore afterwards.
3. I use stock. Leedroid and Viper are probably the most popular ones. Close enough to stock with many customization options.
4. Best way to root is through Magisk. Doesn't modify your system and you can hide root for apps that don't allow it. If you go straight to a custom rom after unlocking your bootloader, you won't need to root separately.
5. You're welcome.
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Thanks alot for your answer. How did u mean that apps will install automaticaly? I dont know how to enable automatic backups. How can i do that?
FTWDiesel said:
Thanks alot for your answer. How did u mean that apps will install automaticaly? I dont know how to enable automatic backups. How can i do that?
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Settings, Backup and Reset.
Not sure if enabling it will immediately back everything up.
After your phone is wiped, it asks you for your Google account and then which apps you want to restore. Not sure if app data is backed up/restored as well.
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Settings, Backup and Reset.
Not sure if enabling it will immediately back everything up.
After your phone is wiped, it asks you for your Google account and then which apps you want to restore. Not sure if app data is backed up/restored as well.
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Okay, thanks alot again.