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finally thinking about rooting.help please

hi everyone
finally thinking about rooting i have a htc desire 2.2 but internal memory is becoming a problem
but i need to know the benefits?
will i able to remove some stock apps?so that internal memory is freeed up?
will apps2d able to move all apps to sd card?
what else will i able to do?
can i install a stock froyo rom without sense for my desire?im sure that would free up some space?

Yes, yes, yes and yes If you want all of the above, you can get it by rooting.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

thanks alot
how much memory free do you have on your desire?
does apps2sd move the entire application to sdcard or just the data?

This should not be in the Development forum, should've gone in Q&A

I have 100 mbs left after installing about 20 apps and a couple of games. Apps2sd will still use a bit of internal memory, but most of it goes to the sd.
EDIT: This is with ~30mb taken up from adobe flash and air on internal.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

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mayurh said:
thanks alot
how much memory free do you have on your desire?
does apps2sd move the entire application to sdcard or just the data?
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i have 65 apps, ranging till 12MB per app, and yet, my internal storage has 133MB free

Just realised I was using Oxygen ROM and my sd ext wasn't mounted :S
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

noobandroid said:
i have 65 apps, ranging till 12MB per app, and yet, my internal storage has 133MB free
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wow that sounds good
you using leeroid right?
can i root and keep my stock rom and just uninstall all the apps i dont like? wil that free up more internal memory?
will apps2sd move apps on the stock rom?

mayurh said:
wow that sounds good
you using leeroid right?
can i root and keep my stock rom and just uninstall all the apps i dont like? wil that free up more internal memory?
will apps2sd move apps on the stock rom?
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App2sd does not work on stock roms but it does on most already rooted roms

shockem said:
App2sd does not work on stock roms but it does on most already rooted roms
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so it wont work even if i root my stock rom?i'l have to load a rom?
one thing im wondering
how come you guys are getting 140mb +- free with apps installed?
where did the space come from?

If you root your stock ROM then yes you can then use adb to remove system apps. The issue is they're not part of the internal storage but on a seperate system partition. This means removing them won't add space to downloaded apps
If you want to install hundreds of pointless, needless apps** then you're going to need a custom ROM which uses A2SD+ - LeeDroid is one example but I personally prefer either an MCR ROM from MoDaCo or the Desire HD port (RCMixHD). Both also extremely good ROMs
** This is my personal opinion, I don't use my Desire as a replacement for every other device I own so have no need to use excessive ammounts of apps

EddyOS said:
If you root your stock ROM then yes you can then use adb to remove system apps. The issue is they're not part of the internal storage but on a seperate system partition. This means removing them won't add space to downloaded apps
If you want to install hundreds of pointless, needless apps** then you're going to need a custom ROM which uses A2SD+ - LeeDroid is one example but I personally prefer either an MCR ROM from MoDaCo or the Desire HD port (RCMixHD). Both also extremely
good ROMs
** This is my personal opinion, I don't use my Desire as a replacement for every other device I own so have no need to use excessive ammounts of apps
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Tks
I don't have alot of apps
Maybe 20
Problem is copilot, flash, air, google maps etc
They take up alot of space, I'm not trying all apps

S-OFF then remove using root explorer

I have 69MB free with the following updates/apps installed:
1. Facebook (Update)
2. Twitter
3. Angry Birds (on SD Card)
4. Adobe Flash (Update)
5. Google Maps (Update)
6. Gmail (Update)
7. eBay
8. XDA App
9. Street View (Update)
10. App Manager
11. Dolphin HD Browser (on SD Card)
12. YouTube (Update)
13. EStrongs File Explorer (on SD Card)
So, for me, I don't NEED to root. I still do to try a new ROM if it's something that appeals but I love Sense - stock Android is so fugly

Hi,
If you're using Android (Froyo) you can I believe move, some, of the apps an data to the SD card using your existing ROM.
Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications.
Look at the downloaded apps and highlight one, it may or may not give you the option to move to SD card. The ability to move to SD is dependent on the Application developer in question. Hence, this doesn't work for all applications and data.
There are also some Market Apps that can scan the list for you, I tried "App 2 SD" by Sam Lu which seemed to work for me.
Regards.
Colin

noobandroid said:
S-OFF then remove using root explorer
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wat do i do this for?

I'm guessing for removing system apps...if you don't know what it is then don't even think about it at this stage

EddyOS said:
I have 69MB free with the following updates/apps installed:
1. Facebook (Update)
2. Twitter
3. Angry Birds (on SD Card)
4. Adobe Flash (Update)
5. Google Maps (Update)
6. Gmail (Update)
7. eBay
8. XDA App
9. Street View (Update)
10. App Manager
11. Dolphin HD Browser (on SD Card)
12. YouTube (Update)
13. EStrongs File Explorer (on SD Card)
So, for me, I don't NEED to root. I still do to try a new ROM if it's something that appeals but I love Sense - stock Android is so fugly
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i think the problem is i've tried out many apps and then removed them
so i guess mayb they left some files behind
ive got 20mbs free now
i've got these big apps
adobe flash
copilot(sd)
adobe air(sd)
maps
contacts storage ( 7mb
facebook update
twitter update
skype
asphalt
gmail update
rockplayer
launcher pro
handcent sms
slide it
angry birds
widgetlocker
astro
mxit
opera mini
qaudrant
appbrain
drive safel.y
to do tasklist
pool break pro
live sports 24 f1
3g watchdog
street view update
facebook for htc sense
barcode scanner
adyno
circluar battery indicator
anytime pool
paper toss
app protector
moment diary
sms schedular
astro bluetooth modeule
memory trainer
winamp
system info widget
engaget
google sky map
color note
wifi analyser
easy spirit level
smooth calender
task manager
fpt system manager
tone picker
sd move
home switcher
car mode
thats it
most of them are on the sdcard according to sd move and i've checked
some cannot be moved
i've already done the adb thing to set my default location to sd card
so most new apps go to sd
all apps with widgets are on the internal memory
i cant understand why i have so little memory left?

Because you don't have a lot of space in the first place. If you want more then you have no option other than to go with a custom ROM which uses A2SD+

Storage issues with Link2SD

I've rooted my phone about a week ago and have been fiddling around with all the different things i can do with the phone, but my main reason for doing it was to help with the crap internal storage it has. So i got Link2SD setup and partitioned my SD card with a second ex2 partition, and for a while it will work well, i will have around 70-80mb listed as free on my internal but that won't really change much even when adding and linking new files with l2sd, but lately i've been running into a problem where it will drop down to 10-20 mb and just stay there. I've already tried formatting and doing a clean install which will fix it for a day or so, but it keeps dropping low and staying there even when i delete things to clean up space. I've clean installed 4 times already with the same effect, and now it's getting annoying since i started fresh yesterday and had the issue come up almost instantly, wiped again and now i'm already back at the same spot.. is there some folder that is filling up that i'm unaware of? I'm just very confused about this issue now hah, any help would be greatly appreciated

Link2sd doesn't prevent your phone from thinking that internal storage is full, I think.
I'd recommend trying s2e instead.
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"You can overclock as much as you want, your phone will always seem too slow."

hmm, s2e won't run on stock rom will it? i think i've read that it will only run on cm7/9

Hmm. When I was new to link 2 sd I had same problem. Don't worry I got a fix. ^_^
1.Uninstall stupid system apps you don't use. We need to make space in system partition.
2. Download titanium backup and when u open it. Go to options select integrate davlic cache into rom. It'll take few minutes, when it's complete reboot.
3. Make sure all files are linked.
4. Clear cache occasionally.
5. If you still are low on space you may use this command as the last option.
Warning: you may have to reboot phone after installing a new app to run it for first time.
Go to terminal
Type 'su'
Accept superuser request.
Type 'a2sd cachesd'
Phone will reboot and may take some time to start.
6. That should be it. I'm running cm9 with link 2 sd and I have more than 100 apps still I got 75 mb free.
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e using xda app-developers app

When you flash a new rom, make sure first thing you do is installation of Link2SD.
Tick auto link on it, and then install whatever you want.
It's how I solved that problem.
Now I have 107 apps installed with Link2SD, and around ~40mb of free internal space.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using xda premium

Try deleting files in /data/tombstones (if there is any), using a file explorer.

Many apps will save their data in your internal memory, even if they're linked to your SD. There are some programs (like S2E) that can move all your data to your SD but you may loose performance if you don't have a fast SD. One alternative is using Titanium Backup to move to SD data of individual apps, this way you can keep in your internal memory the data you want to access quickly (ie your contacts) and you move to SD all the other data. The process is reversible and if you think it slows down too much a specifc app you can move back its data to internal memory.
To do dat you have to go to "Copy/Restore" in Titanium Backup, long-press one app and scroll down until you find the option "Move app data to SD".
This way I've been able to save about 60 MB of additional internal memory and I haven't noticed any change in performance.
An additional advantage is that this Titanium Backup feature is available in the free version; the Dalvik cache integration proposed in a previous post is locked if you don't have PRO version.

Linking /data/data app files for free?
Ferri64 said:
To do dat you have to go to "Copy/Restore" in Titanium Backup, long-press one app and scroll down until you find the option "Move app data to SD".
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Hi,
Can anyone confirm if this is still true. I've just installed Titanium Backup Free v5.5.2 and in the "Backup/Restore" screen I follow the instructions above and see a 'Move to SD card' option, but no 'Move app data to SD' option. Choosing the 'Move to SD card' option does not move the app data. Is it still available in the free app?
I'm very happy with link2sd with my stock rom HTC Wildfire S except that it doesn't offer me the ability to selectively link /data/data application files. Perhaps there's another linking app that does a more complete job? I've seen this thread mention simple2ext but that seems to require Cyanogenmod.
Cheers,
Mark

marky1124 said:
Hi,
Can anyone confirm if this is still true. I've just installed Titanium Backup Free v5.5.2 and in the "Backup/Restore" screen I follow the instructions above and see a 'Move to SD card' option, but no 'Move app data to SD' option.
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I can provide an answer to my own question here. It turns out that the 'Move app data to sd card' option only appears if Titanium Backup sees a valid mount point, as per this documentation: http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb/titanium-backup-technical-faq.html#requirements-for-using-move-app-data-to-sd
If you have a phone like mine (Wildfire S, stock rom v2.3.5) then you don't have one of the TB supported mount points so you have to create it yourself using Terminal Emulator and Busybox
e.g.
Code:
$ su
# ln -s /data/sdext2 /data/sd
# mkdir /data/sdext2/app
Also I've now discovered that for the functionality to work properly the second partition must be a unix filesystem type like ext2, ext3 or ext4, but not vfat (FAT32) since that doesn't allow TB to create symbolic links.
There's more discussion of this and gory details on this thread
Cheers,
Mark

Help
sukhjit321 said:
Hmm. When I was new to link 2 sd I had same problem. Don't worry I got a fix. ^_^
5. If you still are low on space you may use this command as the last option.
Warning: you may have to reboot phone after installing a new app to run it for first time.
Go to terminal
Type 'su'
Accept superuser request.
Type 'a2sd cachesd'
Phone will reboot and may take some time to start.
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Brother u are a life saver, I just followed your syntax and it worked like charm. I am now having 98 mb of internal memory from 38mb.
But have Couple of question for u....
1. Can u tell me if I have to run this command again and again after installing new apps or will it work on its own if once executed?
2. I have link2sd installed before this command and have linked all the files to 2nd partion of my sd card.
Is it safe to uninstall link2sd app now?

Rahul2929 said:
Brother u are a life saver, I just followed your syntax and it worked like charm. I am now having 98 mb of internal memory from 38mb.
But have Couple of question for u....
1. Can u tell me if I have to run this command again and again after installing new apps or will it work on its own if once executed?
2. I have link2sd installed before this command and have linked all the files to 2nd partion of my sd card.
Is it safe to uninstall link2sd app now?
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1. You only need this command again when the memory runs way too low. Don't try it again coz it reduces performance too.
2. I guess you can/ I've never tried it tough.

I ran into problem with your command...it force closes some of my apps which I noticed later ....
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using xda premium

I had the same problem a while ago that i had to reflash the rom because apps were force closing all the time
The reason this happened was because i downloaded several apps at the same time, so Link2SD didnt had enough time to link all files
and the internal memory became full and went crazy
the only solution for me was deleting all apps and reinstalling them
so my recommendation would be not to download more than 1 app at the same time, wait for Link2SD to link files, and then download the next one

Actually I did that I did a factory reset and then ran the command..bt after that my internal apps was also force closing like playstore,etc
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using xda premium

I think Link2sd and DTa2sd can't run at the same time. You'll be get FC everytime install new apps.
Sent from MARVEL JellyScream

stupid but effective method
ocnDaNN said:
I've rooted my phone about a week ago and have been fiddling around with all the different things i can do with the phone, but my main reason for doing it was to help with the crap internal storage it has. So i got Link2SD setup and partitioned my SD card with a second ex2 partition, and for a while it will work well, i will have around 70-80mb listed as free on my internal but that won't really change much even when adding and linking new files with l2sd, but lately i've been running into a problem where it will drop down to 10-20 mb and just stay there. I've already tried formatting and doing a clean install which will fix it for a day or so, but it keeps dropping low and staying there even when i delete things to clean up space. I've clean installed 4 times already with the same effect, and now it's getting annoying since i started fresh yesterday and had the issue come up almost instantly, wiped again and now i'm already back at the same spot.. is there some folder that is filling up that i'm unaware of? I'm just very confused about this issue now hah, any help would be greatly appreciated
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i have the same problem and the solution (2 steps) is a bit stupid but here it is:
1 - go into (manage applications) in settings and wait till it calculate the storage of every app (under every app's name), where you will find that the memore increased usually from 12 mb to abou 20 mb.
2 - you have to go into link2sd app and do one of these 3 things:
1. link library files
2. link dalvic cache files
3. clear cache (not clear dalvic cache)
one of these options or more will do the track. now check storage and you will find more 30 or 40 mb
if anyone know a good application that links data too, i'l be very thankful

I am using link2sd with ext3 partition created through cwm recovery after re booting some apps disappear and i have to install them again
Any fix?
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[Q] Cannot Install Any Apps At All Even With Free Memory

I've been removing some bloatware on my phone with root explorer (because this is the only method that works since I need to mount r/w on the veondor folder), it's been working great and it's much faster now. Suddenly whenever I try to install from the market or an APK it now says I have insufficient storage available when I have 59mb of memory left on my system and plenty of GB on my SD card. I can still update apps through the market perfectly fine but nothing else works.
Things I removed...
From .../System/App
-Officesuite.apk
-talkback.apk
From .../System/Vendor/App
-datatrafficswitch.apk
-semccrashmonitor.apk
-timescapespline,apk
-timescapewidget.apk
-widgetonoff.apk
-playnow.apk
-letsgolf.apk
I deleted these from looking at a guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614761
I am on firmware .587
I'm not sure if this was the cause because I have installed some firmware changing packs such as the nxt theme but ThillanaC and .587 Framework Deodexer by papayayoghurt.
If anyone can help it would really help, and I do have a nandroid backup from before all this but I would prefer to know what caused this.

System space not the same as Data space.
CynicBound said:
I've been removing some bloatware on my phone with root explorer (because this is the only method that works since I need to mount r/w on the veondor folder), it's been working great and it's much faster now. Suddenly whenever I try to install from the market or an APK it now says I have insufficient storage available when I have 59mb of memory left on my system and plenty of GB on my SD card. I can still update apps through the market perfectly fine but nothing else works.
Things I removed...
From .../System/App
-Officesuite.apk
-talkback.apk
From .../System/Vendor/App
-datatrafficswitch.apk
-semccrashmonitor.apk
-timescapespline,apk
-timescapewidget.apk
-widgetonoff.apk
-playnow.apk
-letsgolf.apk
I deleted these from looking at a guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614761
I am on firmware .587
I'm not sure if this was the cause because I have installed some firmware changing packs such as the nxt theme but ThillanaC and .587 Framework Deodexer by papayayoghurt.
If anyone can help it would really help, and I do have a nandroid backup from before all this but I would prefer to know what caused this.
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The applications you deleted resided in the System partition of your internal memory but the new ones you want to install require space on the Data partition. So unless you can use an application like SystemCleanup to move some old apps to the System partition you still won't be able to free up space in the Data partition.

I've had apps fail to install when I've had as much as 60MB free. It really does suck - Sony just didn't give us enough space for apps. Either move some apps to your SD card or install Link2SD and kiss this problem goodbye forever. There is a great guide here:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/
It's well worth doing and doesn't take very long at all.

The applications you deleted resided in the System partition of your internal memory but the new ones you want to install require space on the Data partition. So unless you can use an application like SystemCleanup to move some old apps to the System partition you still won't be able to free up space in the Data partition.
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Works perfectly! Thanks a lot!

[Q] Why busybox "remove" apps from sdcard ?

Hello, I have a problem on stock based roms when install busybox via Play afrer reebot all apps install on SDcard are grayed, I like to ad that I had changed internal sd to external sd. Only solution that i find for this problem is to uninstall busybox from phone. But I wolud like know why this is happening.

Alwer said:
Hello, I have a problem on stock based roms when install busybox via Play afrer reebot all apps install on SDcard are grayed, I like to ad that I had changed internal sd to external sd. Only solution that i find for this problem is to uninstall busybox from phone. But I wolud like know why this is happening.
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your apps were on usb storage and you can still uninstall them

No I can not, its probably my bad English You misunderstand me.
So once again
1. I install rom, for example minimal by Judas
2. I switch usb to external sd, reboot phone etc..
3. I install same apps on sdcard and busy-box,
4. And now when i reboot phone apps installed on sdcard are greyed, and system says that they are not installed
5. I remove busybox reboot phone, and voilà my apps are back.
My question is why this is happening ?

No. But you swapped vold.fstab?
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Yes I swapped fstab, and after that I had installed apps... just like I write in second post

You
1. Installed apps
2. Transfer to usb storage
3. Swapped vold.fstab
Is that what you mean? Because thats the only reason why my apps will be grayed.
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teddytsen said:
You
1. Installed apps
2. Transfer to usb storage
3. Swapped vold.fstab
Is that what you mean? Because thats the only reason why my apps will be grayed.
No I mean exactly what I write earlier,
1 Install rom,
2 Swaped vold fstab
3 install some random apps (like endomodo dead tiger etc,).
3a. And at this moment everything work fine.
4 Install busybox - and now if I reboot phone apps install on sdcard are greyed.
4a. For 1 at 10-20 reboots apps will show correctly .
5 Uninstall busybox, reboot phone - my apps are back,
And this problem occurs only witch TouchWiz.
I know this is bit strange problem so I appreciate Teddytsen Your willingness to help me
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0.0
Never heard of it, sorry
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Still thank you for Your interest

[Q] Help a noob choose a ROM

Hello, I have a GT-S5660 and last week I loaded this ROM -
Jellybean 4.2.2 (CyanogenMod 10.1) 20130908 from maclaw.
But I am running out of space on the internal storage, I have tried the App2SD app but there are some apps that cannot be moved and after loading up 3-4 apps I am running out of space already.
Can someone point me to a ROM that allows me to install ALL my apps to the SD card? I dont mind going backwards in Android versions - I just want to run apps off the sd card. I mainly use the phone as a phone but am a heavy user of whatsapp - footmob - dropbox - music and ebooks.
I have a 2gig SDCard installed in the phone and I made a partion on it using CWM. I hope everything is setup to be able to a new ROM and allow apps install to the SD.
I dont need - FM radio - email (I use gmail) - exchange - only English language - voice search - voice dialler or talk.
Can anyone help me make a good choice for a new ROM ?
Thanks a lot in advance!

You should install JellyBread.
It's the best rom for Gio, it's fast and stable.
And it already has a script in it to move apps to sd-ext.
So create a ext-2, ext-3 or ext-4 partition on your sd-card.
Then go to terminal emulator (pre-installed) and type
su
Then it will ask for root, accept, then
int2ext
reboot
Then check in Settings>Apps>Mangage applications and if you see your storage is huuuuge then it worked.

DevWithCookies said:
You should install JellyBread.
It's the best rom for Gio, it's fast and stable.
And it already has a script in it to move apps to sd-ext.
So create a ext-2, ext-3 or ext-4 partition on your sd-card.
Then go to terminal emulator (pre-installed) and type
su
Then it will ask for root, accept, then
int2ext
reboot
Then check in Settings>Apps>Mangage applications and if you see your storage is huuuuge then it worked.
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Great I will check it out and see how it works.
Thanks very much for your help

I use CM10.1 by Mardon for 3-4 months and is very stable and good looking too.I had the storage free space problem too but I used Link2SD to uninstall and move apps to SD and now I have 100mb free.I also replace original LatinIME (11mb) with another that has only 3mb
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Had to load the ROm twice for some reason, it got stuck on the loading screen for about 20 mins so I did a factory reset and wipe again then it worked fine.
Just perfect!! exactly what I was looking for!
Having great fun loading up LOTS of apps now
Thanks a lot for helping

Mokum42 said:
Had to load the ROm twice for some reason, it got stuck on the loading screen for about 20 mins so I did a factory reset and wipe again then it worked fine.
Just perfect!! exactly what I was looking for!
Having great fun loading up LOTS of apps now
Thanks a lot for helping
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What ROM ?
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