Finally an upgrade path for Epic 4G users and/or Tactile fans. Everything else was a downgrade.
The Motorola Photon Q 4GLTE (MoPhoQ) appears to beat the Epic 4G, in all accounts, hands down, at least on paper.
The MoPhoQ has every option that the epic has except possibly touchwiz.
The only items I am unsure of are the Processor and Battery Life.
The Photon Q meets or exceeds all the specs & features of the Epic 4G.
Radio: Full world phone with 4GLTE & CDMA 800, CDMA 850, CDMA 1900, GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900, LTE 1900, WCDMA 850, WCDMA 1900, WCDMA 2100 vs. E4G- obsolete
WiMAX 2500 with CDMA 850 & CDMA 1900
Battery Size: 1785 mAh vs. 1500 mAh
Display Type & Resolution: LCD 540 x 960 pixels vs. OLED (Full-Color) 480 x 800 pixels
Display Size: 4.3" vs. E4G- 4.0"
OS: Android ICS 4.04 vs. Android 2.36 unless rooted
OS updates: Highly likely for the Photon to recieve JB as it is newer and a half-brother to Android by marriage.
Memory, Internal Storage: 8 GB raw hardware, 4.6 MB available to user +1GB RAM vs. E4g- 1.5GB raw hardware 461 MB available to user
Camera: 8+ megapixel vs. E4G- 5+ megapixel
Video Capture: 1080p HD 30FPS back & 720P front vs. E4G- 720p HD 30FPS back
Also the MoPhoQ has TV output via HDMI port, 4G LTE, Hearing aid compatiblity, NFC, it's not samsung & it has 4G LTE.
The only down side is it weighs 15Grams more and is several thousanths on an inch larger, literally 0.070" larger.
Now my questions are about the processor and battery life.
Processor 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon vs. E4G- 1 GHz Cortex A8 Hummingbird
How much faster, better, more efficient etc. is the processor?
Does anyone have any ideas on the expected battery life of the photon?
The published battery life information appears to indicate a +25% increase in battery life
Jestre
-- Rockin' TPR2.22 on my Epic 4g
Jestre said:
Finally an upgrade path for Epic 4G users and/or Tactile fans. Everything else was a downgrade.
The Motorola Photon Q 4GLTE (MoPhoQ) appears to beat the Epic 4G, in all accounts, hands down, at least on paper.
The MoPhoQ has every option that the epic has except possibly touchwiz.
The only items I am unsure of are the Processor and Battery Life.
The Photon Q meets or exceeds all the specs & features of the Epic 4G.
Radio: Full world phone with 4GLTE & CDMA 800, CDMA 850, CDMA 1900, GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900, LTE 1900, WCDMA 850, WCDMA 1900, WCDMA 2100 vs. E4G- obsolete
WiMAX 2500 with CDMA 850 & CDMA 1900
Battery Size: 1785 mAh vs. 1500 mAh
Display Type & Resolution: LCD 540 x 960 pixels vs. OLED (Full-Color) 480 x 800 pixels
Display Size: 4.3" vs. E4G- 4.0"
OS: Android ICS 4.04 vs. Android 2.36 unless rooted
OS updates: Highly likely for the Photon to recieve JB as it is newer and a half-brother to Android by marriage.
Memory, Internal Storage: 8 GB raw hardware, 4.6 MB available to user +1GB RAM vs. E4g- 1.5GB raw hardware 461 MB available to user
Camera: 8+ megapixel vs. E4G- 5+ megapixel
Video Capture: 1080p HD 30FPS back & 720P front vs. E4G- 720p HD 30FPS back
Also the MoPhoQ has TV output via HDMI port, 4G LTE, Hearing aid compatiblity, NFC, it's not samsung & it has 4G LTE.
The only down side is it weighs 15Grams more and is several thousanths on an inch larger, literally 0.070" larger.
Now my questions are about the processor and battery life.
Processor 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon vs. E4G- 1 GHz Cortex A8 Hummingbird
How much faster, better, more efficient etc. is the processor?
Does anyone have any ideas on the expected battery life of the photon?
The published battery life information appears to indicate a +25% increase in battery life
Jestre
-- Rockin' TPR2.22 on my Epic 4g
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much faster and more battery efficient. It is based on ARM Cortex A15 architecture, whereas ours is ARM Cortex A8. Also, it is dual core, whereas ours is single core. Both of these qualities make it better in both ways. It also has a radio integrated into the processor, which means it saves power since it doesnt need to power multiple things for Radio. The dual core S4 processor of the Photon Q is faster and more battery efficient than the quad core processors on the market due to its newer architecture (S4=A15, current QuadCores are A9). If 2 A15 cores are faster than 4 A9 cores, then it would have to obliterate 1 A8 core.
Not sure about battery life specifically. It should be about on par with the AT&T One X
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Hi there
Firstly.. No, this is not a typical noobie thread asking for the best custom ROM out there, as I know it's related to personal preference. My problem is that I have a download limit, so I can not test out every ROM I'd like to.
A solution to this problem would be if you guys could recommend a few of the fastest ROMs for me, in your experiences (I'm not so interested in eye candy, more usability.. and most importantly I want it AS SMOOOOOTH AS POSSIBLE, I love smoooothness ) After a few ROMs are recommended I'll have a better picture of what to check out and what to download and I won't be wasting toomuch of my download limit.
Thanks in advance
Why do you have a download limit? What is your limit?
I live in South Africa where not everyone has unlimited internet.. My download limit is 5gb a month (but thats for my whole family...) , but I'm pretty close to blowing it :-/
C'mon, can't anyone help me out here?
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C'mon, can't anyone help me out here?
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I think you should start a new thread (search first) entitled "Fastest Custom ROM?" That will get a discussion started, and people who are interested in the subject will see the title and post their opinions.
I'll try that.. I wanted to avoid that though, 'cause I didn't want this to be those typical "What is the best custom ROM?" threads, and recieve the typical reply of "There is no best custom ROM"
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I'll try that.. I wanted to avoid that though, 'cause I didn't want this to be those typical "What is the best custom ROM?" threads, and recieve the typical reply of "There is no best custom ROM"
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Just sort the forum by the ROM w/ the most posts or views. If you go with those they will most likely be the most tested, have more user support/solution, and they have gone through a couple different versions.
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Just sort the forum by the ROM w/ the most posts or views. If you go with those they will most likely be the most tested, have more user support/solution, and they have gone through a couple different versions.
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Yes, but the specific question is which is the FASTEST ROM.
I tried a couple roms and decided I hated 6.5, so I cannot say for sure...but I can point you in a direction to check threads...
Energy, Cell, Josh, and DeepShining have all had very positive responses, and speed is something commonly mentioned among the pluses.
I hope this helps. Perhaps reading those particular threads can help you decide before wasting bandwidth.
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Yes, but the specific question is which is the FASTEST ROM.
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In other words it is literally impossible to tell. The fastest ROM will be a today screen or titanium with no mods, it really boils down to what you want your phone to do though. I personally like eye candy and stability, you can see what I've chosen below for those. Don't get me wrong, it is still pretty fast, just not as fast as a bone stock ROM would be. I'd be willing to download, burn, and send a DVD full of ROMs, let me know.
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In other words it is literally impossible to tell. The fastest ROM will be a today screen or titanium with no mods, it really boils down to what you want your phone to do though. I personally like eye candy and stability, you can see what I've chosen below for those. Don't get me wrong, it is still pretty fast, just not as fast as a bone stock ROM would be. I'd be willing to download, burn, and send a DVD full of ROMs, let me know.
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Sorry for taking so long to reply, I've reached my download limit lol.. I'm posting this from my phone's internet.
WOW! That DVD would be TRULY awesome, and I'd REALLY REALLY appreciate it. How can we go about doing this kind sir?
I have tested out LOADS of ROMs.
But I always go back to one in particular,
Touch X "SENSE 2.0B X-TREME"
Now unfortunately this ROM has been dis-continued.
But 2.0 is still available for download:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575747
For speed its great. If I have no today plugin running when i soft reset, there's only 36% memory usage.
Manilla reaps the memory a bit, having around 50% memory usage after soft reset.
Which is why I use other today plugins like 'iphone today' and 'throttlelauncher'
Over all its the the best (in my personal opinion mind)
And its not littered with unnecessary apps
Can someone help me with my Slate AQT100 Tablet custom rom?
Okay so I've been trying to locate a custom rom for my tablet and no luck as follows; BrandBrand name of the device. This may match with the manufacturer Slate 10 Tablet AQT100 TD-LTE
ReleasedFirst official market release date in (year, month) 2015 Oct
Hardware DesignerThe company which designed this device Quanta Computer
Application processor, Chipset:
CPU ClockFrequency of the square signal which schedules the internal operation of microprocessor (synchronous sequential logic). The current consumed by the processor is approximately proportional to clock rate. 1100 MHz
CPUManufacturer part number and most important characteristics of the IC which includes the main application processor or processors Qualcomm Snapdragon 210 MSM8909, 2014, 32 bit, quad-core, 28 nm, Qualcomm Adreno 304 GP Collapse datasheetCollapse datasheet
Graphical SubsystemGraphical Subsystem:
Graphical ControllerManufacturer and part number of the graphics controller IC or commercial name of the intellectual property (IP) if the graphics controller is the part of a chipset Qualcomm Adreno 304 Cellular Phone:
Supported Cellular BandsList of supported cellular networks with band names. For example GSM900 refers to the GSM system with the 890-915 MHz uplink and 935-960 downlink bands. LTE 1900 MHz (Band 2, PCS)LTE1900 phones support LTE 1900 MHz (PCS , also referred as LTE Band 2) band (downlink: 1930 - 1990 MHz, uplink: 1850 - 1910 MHz) , LTE 1700/2100 MHz (Band 4, AWS)LTE1700/2100 phones support LTE 1700 / 2100 MHz (AWS also referred as LTE Band 4) band (downlink: 2110 - 2155 MHz, uplink: 1710 - 1755 MHz) , LTE 850 MHz (Band 5)LTE850 phones support LTE 850 MHz (LTE Band 5) band (downlink: 869 - 894 MHz, uplink: 824 - 849 MHz) , LTE 700 MHz (Band 12)LTE700 phones support LTE 700 MHz (LTE Band 12) band (downlink: 728 - 746 MHz, uplink: 698 - 716 MHz) , LTE 1900 MHz (Band 25)LTE1900 phones support LTE 1900 MHz (LTE Band 25) band (downlink: 1930 - 1995 MHz, uplink: 1850 - 1915 MHz) , LTE 850 MHz (Band 26)LTE850 phones support LTE 850 MHz (LTE Band 26) band (downlink: 859 - 894 MHz, uplink: 814 - 849 MHz) , TD-LTE 2500 MHz (Band XLI)TD-LTE 2500 MHz phones support TD-LTE 2500 MHz (LTE Band 41) band (2496 - 2690 MHz) bands
Supported Cellular Data LinksList of supported cellular data links and rates. LTE (Cat. unspecified)LTE (Long Term Evolution) or the E-UTRAN (Evolved Universal Terrestrial Access Network), introduced in 3GPP R8, is the 4G access part of the Evolved Packet System (EPS). , LTE 150 Mbps / 50 Mbps (Cat. 4)LTE 151.2 Mbps / 50.4 Mbps (Cat. 4) data links
SIM Card SlotSupported Subscriber Identification Card (SIM) Format like mini-SIM, micro-SIM, nano-SIM, embedded SIM, etc. Nano-SIM (4FF)
Cellular AntennaPhysical antenna layout. Most common type: internal. Historic types: fixed external, pull-out, open-out Internal antenna
Cellular ControllerManufacturer part number of the cellular modem and controller IC or commercial name of the intellectual property (IP) if the function is the part of a chipset Qualcomm MSM8909 ,Secondary Cellular PhoneSecondary Cellular Phone:
Sec. Supported Cellular Networks: No
Sec. Phone Controller IC: Qualcomm MSM8909
Control PeripheralsControl Peripherals:
Touchscreen TypeDetermines how the touchscreen module senses the touch of the screen Capacitive multi-touch sensing screen
Touchscreen Simultaneous Touch PointsDetermines how many touches the touch-sensitive screen module is able to simultaneously detect Yes
I noticed that according to Qualcomm's press release
http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releas...first-chipset-solutions-break-gigahertz-barri
Snapdragon processor does 5.76mbps HSUPA by default.
The Desire is only set to Catagory 5 HSUPA which is 2mbps.
Can 5.76mbps be enabled???
I noticed in /system/build.prop you can change the HSDPA/HSUPA catagory settings
Samsung Galaxy S doesn't have Snapdragon, it has Hummingbird.
Just for information; made some tests with speedtest app on a cpl of servers, max download speed I could see was 4,6 mbit/s (my location Gothenburg/Swe, test server Aarhus/Denmark) and upload speed was appr 1 mbit/s, that was the highest speeds i hv reached by far. Hv no any clue abt technical details in terms of hsdpa, hsupa or whatever hw configuration built in my phone (Desire, network: 3 Sweden)
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Just for information; made some tests with speedtest app on a cpl of servers, max download speed I could see was 4,6 mbit/s (my location Gothenburg/Swe, test server Aarhus/Denmark) and upload speed was appr 1 mbit/s, that was the highest speeds i hv reached by far. Hv no any clue abt technical details in terms of hsdpa, hsupa or whatever hw configuration built in my phone (Desire, network: 3 Sweden)
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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The Desire is only 2MB HSUPA capable. Honestly, that's massive uplink for a phone.
JohnSteveDoe said:
The Desire is only 2MB HSUPA capable. Honestly, that's massive uplink for a phone.
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Sorry but my diamond1 and my old touch pro both have 7.2Mbit HSDPA, as does the desire. So 2Mbit is not that massive ever since 2006, yeah I had a TyTN too
We are talking about UPLOAD (7.2Mbit is download).
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I noticed that the Samsung Galaxy S which also has the Snapdragon processor does 5.76mbps HSUPA by default.
The Desire is only set to Catagory 5 HSUPA which is 2mbps.
Can 5.76mbps be enabled???
I noticed in /sys/build.prop you can change the HSDPA/HSUPA catagory settings, however even though I edit mine, the settings appear to be overwritten every time at startup. (android 2.1)
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for starters the galaxy s has a hummingbird processor, thats an omap chip not an arm cpu like the snapdragon and 5 or 2 mbps unless you was sat directly under an empty cell tower that you had all to yourself you wont get anything ike that so it dosent matter lol
sorry my bad, lost my lenses
anyway is there a network with 5 mbit uplink, I'll be switching
I tought omap is texas instruments and they manufacture and modify arm cpu architecture, is that right?
I have 6.2Mbit DL and up-to 1.3Mbit upload here
Whoops... to clarify... I incorrectly mentioned the Galaxy S...
What I meant to say was, according to Qualcomm's own press release (see my revised post above)
"The QSD8250 supports HSPA data rates of up to 7.2 Mbps on the downlink and 5.76 on the uplink, with full backward compatibility"
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for starters the galaxy s has a hummingbird processor, thats an omap chip not an arm cpu like the snapdragon
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OMAP is an ARM CPU, too. ARM is the underlying architecture.
AndroHero said:
for starters the galaxy s has a hummingbird processor, thats an omap chip not an arm cpu like the snapdragon
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Both the hummingbird and the Snapdragon are ARM7 instruction set processors.
If anything, the Hummingbird is an ARM CPU, and the Snapdragon is not, because the Hummingbird is based on the ARM Cortex A8 CPU core which is an ARM7 processor, and the Snapdragon is a custom implementation of the ARM7 instruction set - it i not based on the Cortex A8 core, but does use the same instruction set.
Regards,
Dave
I've been researching the two devices but could still use advice. Here's what I've come up with so far:
SGS4
5.4 x 2.7 x 0.30 inches
4.6 ounces
Android 4.2 (Jelly Bean)
up to 15.5 hours talk time
up to 18 days standby time
13MP Camera with 1080p HD Recording
2GB RAM, 16GB ROM
Sync methods: Bluetooth, WiFi, USB, NFC
4G Capable
Wi-Fi Calling
Audio and Multimedia
T-Mobile TV
GPS and Apps
GPS enabled
International
UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Hearing Aid Compatibility
M3
Size and Weight
5.59 x 2.85 x 0.32 inches
5.11 ounces
Android 4.4.2 (Kit Kat)
2.5GHz Quad core application processor
16 MP Camera
2GB RAM, 16GB ROM, 128GB Expandable Memory Slot
Sync methods: Bluetooth, WiFi, USB,LTE
4G Capable
4G LTE Capable
Wi-Fi and Mobile Calling
T-Mobile TV
GPS and Apps
GPS enabled
International
UMTS: Band V (850);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Looks like the big differences are the processor (is it same just overclocked or new hardware?), the camera (+ 3MP), heartrate sensor.
Does the S4 also have the expandable memory slot and dual wifi/4g data transfer? I want a phone I can root but I don't want to invest in something that will be quickly outdated...
Hello, my question is how AT & T works in Latin America to mobile 3g bands and H + 1900 or 850 of this smart phone? or that could operate in these bands veizon, T mobile, sprint¿?
I need your help, buy a xperia st27i but the bands are 900-2100, which should buy was st27a 850-1900 to have the bands of my country
This is the smart phone you want to buy:
ervice Provider : GSM : Any GSM Network worldwide i.e. Cingular, T-Mobile, AT&T, Rogers, Fido ....
Model : Unlocked Samsung I747 Galaxy S3 16GB AT&T.
Features : The Galaxy S III is Samsung's highly anticipated flagship phone: inspired by nature, made for humans. The specs are unmatched and include a blazing-fast dual-core 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor, and a massive and brilliant 4.8 inch super AMOLED screen with 1280 x 720 resolution, protected by Corning Gorilla Glass. It brings multitudes of new cutting-edge features to the table: Smart stay, S-Voice, Pop-up Play and Direct Call to name a few. Add to that an 8 Megapixel main camera with burst-shot, face zoom and best shot, as well as a 2 Megapixel front-facing camera for video chat and you have an incredibly powerful and beautiful device.
Wireless Band : GSM 1800 / 1900 / 850 / 900 UMTS 850 / 2100 / 1900 / 1700 HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 1900 / 1700.
Weight : 133 g (4.69 oz).
Size : 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm (5.38 x 2.78 x 0.34 in).
Form Factor : Bar.
Battery :
Stand-by - Up to 200 hours.
Talk time - Up to 10 hours.
Display : 4.8 inches.
Platform / OS : Android OS, v4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich), upgradable to v4.1.1 (Jelly Bean).
Memory :
16 GB storage.
2 GB RAM.
Processor : Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon.
GPS : A-GPS support and GLONASS.
Bluetooth : v4.0 with A2DP, EDR.
Wi-Fi : Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, dual-band, DLNA, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot.
Browser : HTML, Adobe Flash.
Navigation : Touch Screen.
Camera : 8 MP.
Video : 720 x 1280 pixels.
Audio :
MP3, WAV ringtones.
Speaker.
Messaging : SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS.
MSRP : $799.99.
Thanks for your help
Hi folks
Am curious as to what the differences between the P600 series are... I know P600 is wifi and then theres the P605 lte but what are the actual diiferences between all the models(p601 etc) and the mentioned models?? Why can't we use same rom across them all? I undersatnd that you would not have Lte on the Wifi versions but is that all or are there more diferences?
looking forward to the answers.
regards
Lohtse
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lohtse said:
Hi folks
Am curious as to what the differences between the P600 series are... I know P600 is wifi and then theres the P605 lte but what are the actual diiferences between all the models(p601 etc) and the mentioned models?? Why can't we use same rom across them all? I undersatnd that you would not have Lte on the Wifi versions but is that all or are there more diferences?
looking forward to the answers.
regards
Lohtse
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SM-P600 (Wifi)
SM-P601 (3G & Wifi)
SM-P602 (3G & Wifi, Turkey)
SM-P605 (LTE, 3G & Wifi)
SM-P607T (LTE, 3G & Wifi)
Connectivity:
LTE 150 / 50 Mbit/s hexa-band 800, 850, 900, 1,800, 2,100, 2,600 MHz (4G, LTE model)
HSPA+ 42, 5.76 Mbit/s 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz (4G, LTE model)
HSPA+ 21 Mbit/s 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz (3G, Wi-Fi model)
HSPA+ 850, 1,700, 1,900 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17 (SM-607T)
Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac (2.4, 5 GHz), Bluetooth 4.0, HDMI (external cable)
Graphics:
ARM Mali-T628MP6 (Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi & 3G versions),
or Adreno 330 (4G/LTE model)
CPU:
1.9 GHz octa-core Samsung Exynos 5420 SoC processor (Wi-Fi/3G & Wi-Fi)
2.3 GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800 SoC processor (4G/LTE)
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_10.1_2014_Edition