Hi folks
Am curious as to what the differences between the P600 series are... I know P600 is wifi and then theres the P605 lte but what are the actual diiferences between all the models(p601 etc) and the mentioned models?? Why can't we use same rom across them all? I undersatnd that you would not have Lte on the Wifi versions but is that all or are there more diferences?
looking forward to the answers.
regards
Lohtse
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lohtse said:
Hi folks
Am curious as to what the differences between the P600 series are... I know P600 is wifi and then theres the P605 lte but what are the actual diiferences between all the models(p601 etc) and the mentioned models?? Why can't we use same rom across them all? I undersatnd that you would not have Lte on the Wifi versions but is that all or are there more diferences?
looking forward to the answers.
regards
Lohtse
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SM-P600 (Wifi)
SM-P601 (3G & Wifi)
SM-P602 (3G & Wifi, Turkey)
SM-P605 (LTE, 3G & Wifi)
SM-P607T (LTE, 3G & Wifi)
Connectivity:
LTE 150 / 50 Mbit/s hexa-band 800, 850, 900, 1,800, 2,100, 2,600 MHz (4G, LTE model)
HSPA+ 42, 5.76 Mbit/s 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz (4G, LTE model)
HSPA+ 21 Mbit/s 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz (3G, Wi-Fi model)
HSPA+ 850, 1,700, 1,900 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17 (SM-607T)
Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac (2.4, 5 GHz), Bluetooth 4.0, HDMI (external cable)
Graphics:
ARM Mali-T628MP6 (Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi & 3G versions),
or Adreno 330 (4G/LTE model)
CPU:
1.9 GHz octa-core Samsung Exynos 5420 SoC processor (Wi-Fi/3G & Wi-Fi)
2.3 GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800 SoC processor (4G/LTE)
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_10.1_2014_Edition
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Hello!
I want to buy the LTE version from the USA because it's much cheaper than it is in any EU country. Problem is, I don't know whether it will work with my carrier. Here's the freqs my provider uses:
GSM900:
895,800-905,000 MHz-Transmission from mobile devices to base stations
940,800-950,000 MHz - Transmission from base stations to mobile devices
Modulation: GMSK, 8PSK;
200kHz frequency channel width;
FDD - 45MHz duplex spacing
TDMA - access method.
EGSM900:
880,200-881,800 MHz - Transmission from mobile devices to base stations
925,200-926,800 MHz - Transmission from base stations to mobile devices
Modulation: GMSK, 8PSK;
200kHz frequency channel width;
FDD - 45MHz duplex spacing
TDMA - access method.
DCS (GSM1800):
1710,200-1720,000 MHz - Transmission from mobile devices to base stations
1805,200-1815,000 MHz - Transmission from base stations to mobile devices
Modulation: GMSK, 8PSK;
200kHz frequency channel width;
FDD - 95MHz duplex spacing
TDMA - access method.
UMTS:
1920-1930MHz - Transmission from mobile devices to base stations
2110-2120MHz - Transmission from base stations to mobile devices
Modulation: QPSK, 16QAM, 64QAM;
5000kHz width of the frequency channel;
FDD - duplex spacing 190MHz;
CDMA - access method.
895,800-905,000 MHz-Transmission from mobile devices to base stations;
940,800-950,000 MHz - Transmission from base stations to mobile devices;
Modulation: QPSK, 16QAM, 64QAM;
5000kHz width of the frequency channel;
FDD - duplex spacing 45MHz;
CDMA - access method.
LTE:
1710,200-1720,000 MHz - Transmission from mobile devices to base stations
1805,200-1815,000 MHz - Transmission from base stations to mobile devices
Modulation: QPSK, 16QAM, 64QAM;
5000kHz width of the frequency channel;
FDD - duplex spacing 95MHz;
OFDMA, SC-FDMA - access method.
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And will I have to do something in order to make it work (root/flash other firmware/etc)?
Thanks in advance!
PS: Links editted because forum doesn't let me post them, sorry!
The Nexus website gives that for the 4G/LTE Model :
Optional 4G LTE
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
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It looks like it will be OK for LTE so but
dadam30 said:
The Nexus website gives that for the 4G/LTE Model :
It looks like it will be OK for LTE so but
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Yeah, I saw that but I don't know what these mean that's why I posted what my carrier uses
But will I need to flash or something?
The Band looks OK for you (Me too in France). The 4G model for Europe is adapted to our carriers.
The best way to be ure is to wait until the release and ask your carrier.
It's NOT adviceable to buy the LTE/4G-version of the Nexus 7 2013 in the USA...
The LTE 800MHz-band is NOT on the USA-version, and this band is mostly used on European carriers!
The iPhone 5 doesn't support this band either, so on some carriers the iPhone 5 can't be used on LTE/4G in Europe!
It's your choice!
Europe LTE regulations will use 800Mhz as being said in this post, the problem at this point is that LAND TVs are using part of this channel, so until they move again everything to their according bands, some carriers are deploying at 1800 Mhz or even at 2600 Mhz +
If you want to be future proof for 1/2 Years? Get the EU version, if your country have LTE coverage by the bands offered in the US model, (take in account that 1800-2600Mhz bands are horrible for outside towns deployment) get the US Model.
Forgot to update on this thread, sry. I got the EU version after all, I didn't want to risk it.
Thank you very much for your help!
henklbr said:
It's NOT adviceable to buy the LTE/4G-version of the Nexus 7 2013 in the USA...
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And what about 3g/hspa+ ? Do I understand correctly that US version of N7 LTE should work in europe using 3g/hspa+ for data?. Can anyone confirm?
I'll answer myself - Yes, N7 LTE bought in US works in Europe - at least with 3g network (Aero2 in Poland).
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
I see that the T-Mobile LTE version is available in the US on the play store. It is significantly cheaper than in the UK.
I bought the v1 WiFi nexus 7 in the US and had no issues. If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
Thanks
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aidanbree said:
If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
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Even GSM networks operate on different frequencies on different continents. LTE networks may have other frequencies than GSM networks.
I found a (german) comparisation list for LTE frequencies. For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
So, if you buy an US version, it will be useless in UK. Besides the useability, you may have to pay taxes on import, additional to p&p. Will it still be cheaper then?
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For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
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For France, same frequencies than UK.
We will use someday 700 MHz also.
Some of us are waitin 4 an Euro LTE Nexus 7.
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
HSishi said:
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
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My brother is over in the US next week and could therefore bring it back without P&P and most likely other charges.
In the UK the price is 320 GBP so the saving is around 100GBP with the currency conversion.
Currently I have my mobile with T-Mobile and a sim that I use in a mifi on Three. I am looking to move the Three mifi sim into the Nexus but I don't think that looks like it would work as it states they will use 800 and 1800. I presume that both frequencies are used?
The US device can't use the 800 MHz band, but the 1800. Maybe your carrier operates LTE at 1800, maybe not. Can't say that from here (Germany).
Going to take a chance. The US price for the LTE is cheaper than the WiFi only in the UK. Will advise how I get on
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Same here Czech rep, 32 gb lte is the same price than 16 gb wifi here. But i need the 3G/4G internet can't risk it i must know
Aidenbree: this is exactly what i was thinking of doing too, so thanks for asking the question! I'm also on Three and would be really interested to hear how you get on. £100 saving is worth thinking about!
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
ygvuhb said:
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
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Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
mathieulh said:
Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
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omg
the radio is the same
seem they fix the band though hardware
any chance the software detect the mobile services provider to decide using which band
Sorry my English
The problem is that you take notice of that band teniene Checking your telephony and compatible with LG G3
These are compatible with LG Bands Mhz G3 855
4G LTE FREQUENCIES 1800 Mhz / 2100 Mhz LTE / LTE 2600 MHz / 700 MHz LTE / LTE 800 Mhz / 900 Mhz LTE
Now check your .. band mobile company here in Wikipedia, these are the LTE bands worldwide....
Wikipedia 4G LTE in the Workd
ArieLinGo said:
Sorry my English
The problem is that you take notice of that band teniene Checking your telephony and compatible with LG G3
These are compatible with LG Bands Mhz G3 855
4G LTE FREQUENCIES 1800 Mhz / 2100 Mhz LTE / LTE 2600 MHz / 700 MHz LTE / LTE 800 Mhz / 900 Mhz LTE
Now check your .. band mobile company here in Wikipedia, these are the LTE bands worldwide....
Wikipedia 4G LTE in the Workd
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In my country LTE bands are 3 and 7...1800 and 2600...my LG G3 Asia based, works perfectly...
Hi friends, i just bought 5Ghz router and found that it connect with max link speed only 325 mbps, while i was surfing on the snapdragons webpage i found that z1c has 1-stream 802.11n/ac. Which will support 433mbps max. Can you plz tell what what max speed your phone hits.
Konnektivität
GPRS / EDGE (2G) Ja
Frequenzen 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS / HSPA (3G) Ja
UMTS / HSPA (3G) Frequenz 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
UMTS / HSUPA (3G) upload (max) 5,76 MBit/s
UMTS / HSDPA (3G) download (max) 42,2 MBit/s
LTE (4G) Ja
Frequenzen 800, 850, 900, 1700, 1800, 1900, 2100, 2600 MHz
Frequenz-Bänder 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 19
LTE upload (max) 50 MBit/s
LTE download (max) 150 MBit/s
WLAN Ja
Standard IEEE 802.11a (54 MBit)
IEEE 802.11b (11 MBit)
IEEE 802.11g (54 MBit)
IEEE 802.11n (600 MBit)
IEEE 802.11ac (1300 MBit)
Band 2,4 GHz, 5 GHz
GPS Ja
Glonass Ja
http://www.inside-handy.de/handys/sony-xperia-z1-compact/daten
I have an unlocked ATT Note 5 (N920A). It has been upgraded via Odin to Android 7.0(QC6). According to the specifications I can find online* for this phone it supports UTMS on the 900MHz band.
I live in an area where my provider (O2 UK) only offers 800MHz ( 4GLTE) and 900Mhz (2G & 3G). However I can only get 2G and 4G LTE with this phone here. My old Note II gets a strong 3G signal with the same SIM. If I try in other locations I can get a 3G service but it appears to be on 2100MHz not 900Mhz.
If I go into Service Mode (*#2263#) on the phone band selection doesn't let me select frequencies only LTE/WDCMA/TDS/GSM in various combinations. Band Disable (WCDMA) only offers 1900, 850 and 2100. I am therefore presuming that 900Mhz WDCMA has been disabled.
I am trying to establish if
a) the N920A doesn't support 3G on 900Mhz only on 850/1900/2100Mhz - despite what the specs seem to say?
b) I have a bad N920A phone?
c) This is an Android 7.0 issue - will rolling back to an earlier version give me 900MHz, or allow me to switch?
d) There is a way to enable 900MHz and I have not yet found it - does someone out there know the secret?
Any advice or help gratefully received.
*SM-N920A
2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G: UMTS 850 MHz (B5) / 900 MHz (B8) / 1900 MHz (B2) / 2100 MHz (B1)
4G: LTE 700 MHz (B17) / 850 MHz (B5) / 1700/2100 MHz (B4) / 1900 MHz (B2) / 700 MHz (B12) / 2300 MHz (B30)
from smartphonezero but other sites give the same data
Maybe your device is not support that bands
see full specs
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also see full specs here
Thanks Looks like the specs were wrong
Thanks - Looks like it doesn't. Now to decide if it's going back or whether I can live with the limitation.
samsung official
gsmarena
I dont think so,why samsung official wrong about them specs
N920A with TIM italian operator
I have got the same problem in Italy