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Flashing a new radio??

noob question here. will i need to flash a new radio after i flash a new rom?? Or if im only flashing the rom does it modify/change the original radio??

homegrown544 said:
noob question here. will i need to flash a new radio after i flash a new rom?? Or if im only flashing the rom does it modify/change the original radio??
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Flashing a custom (OS) rom doesn't change the radio.
Stock ROM packages (at least some, like the T-MoUSA WM6.5) include a radio-rom and this over-writes your existing radio-rom.

That was a fast reply thx. so as long as it is not a carrier's stock rom, no radio change?

homegrown544 said:
That was a fast reply thx. so as long as it is not a carrier's stock rom, no radio change?
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No doubt somebody else can give a more definite answer than I can...but AFAIK that's typically the way it is. I've flashed custom ROMs by at least 6 different cooks and none of them have included radio-roms.

MCbrian said:
No doubt somebody else can give a more definite answer than I can...but AFAIK that's typically the way it is. I've flashed custom ROMs by at least 6 different cooks and none of them have included radio-roms.
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The handful of ROMs I've investigated are all the same, no radio included. IF there are any ROMs that have a specific radio included, I'm sure it would be clearly mentioned in the thread for that ROM.
Having the freedom to flash radios separately from the rest of the ROM is one of the many things that make the TP2 as wonderfully flexible as it is

Which RIL should I install?

Hello folks,
Reading through this thread, I installed both Radio + RIL
Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M
Zip file md5: 53d9675cd8ca8c970a5f25bc39b3275c
Radio md5: 3ca0e9784c6fd610c0d95391f2bc9245
RIL_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M
Download: [Multiupload]
Zip file md5: 84d1a0bdd08ca1d55f37e2f94c9a70d3
My DHD went catatonic and for several hours it had everything but GSM (No Service, Baseband Unknown, all that). I flashed (without wiping) the Cyanogen again and GSM was restored.
Now, to my question:
At present, I have
Baseband = 26.13.04.19
RIL = 2.2.0018G
Since the matching 26.13.04.19 RIL in this thread didn't play nice, could someone verify/recommend:
1. Which RIL to use for best results
2. Which method for flashing to use
Thank you all

43-gsm-android said:
Hello folks,
Reading through this thread, I installed both Radio + RIL
Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M
Zip file md5: 53d9675cd8ca8c970a5f25bc39b3275c
Radio md5: 3ca0e9784c6fd610c0d95391f2bc9245
RIL_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M
Download: [Multiupload]
Zip file md5: 84d1a0bdd08ca1d55f37e2f94c9a70d3
My DHD went catatonic and for several hours it had everything but GSM (No Service, Baseband Unknown, all that). I flashed (without wiping) the Cyanogen again and GSM was restored.
Now, to my question:
At present, I have
Baseband = 26.13.04.19
RIL = 2.2.0018G
Since the matching 26.13.04.19 RIL in this thread didn't play nice, could someone verify/recommend:
1. Which RIL to use for best results
2. Which method for flashing to use
Thank you all
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All of the RILs in that thread are for Sense ROMs and most likely won't work with cyanogenmod (if you're using a recent cm7 nightly there was a change made to allow HTC RILs but I haven't seen anyone confirm it as working here).
I never bothered changing RILs on cm7 anyway, I always just changed the radio and I never had any issues.
Edit: just noticed from your other post that you're using cm7.1 - in that case none of those RILs will work.
//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.

hopscotchjunkie said:
All of the RILs in that thread are for Sense ROMs and most likely won't work with cyanogenmod (if you're using a recent cm7 nightly there was a change made to allow HTC RILs but I haven't seen anyone confirm it as working here).
I never bothered changing RILs on cm7 anyway, I always just changed the radio and I never had any issues.
Edit: just noticed from your other post that you're using cm7.1 - in that case none of those RILs will work.
//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.
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Thanks for the clear message - at this point, I am *astounded* at the battery performance of the new Radio. I guess except for the Radio, there is no need to push it with RIL in my case. I have NEVER before seen my DHD survive from 07:00 till 17:00 on a single charge. As at moment of writing, I have 89% battery remaining.
Thank you, XDA, thank you, CyanogenMod - you guys gave me my phone back!

hopscotchjunkie said:
just noticed from your other post that you're using cm7.1 - in that case none of those RILs will work.
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Why?. Could you give details? Actrually Cyanogen´s ROMs use HTC RILs.
43-gsm-android said:
I am *astounded* at the battery performance of the new Radio
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Are you sure that this *great* performances cames from the new radio?
Won´t it be motivated by the fact of reflashing a CM ROM again (thus cleaning your system)?

elreymon said:
Why?. Could you give details? Actrually Cyanogen´s ROMs use HTC RILs.
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The experimental ability to use HM RILs was added in a cyanogen nightly build released later than the Release Candidate version of cm7.1 that he was using at the time of this post. Hence my original statement that they might work if he was using a later nightly, followed by the edit when I saw what he was actually using.

[Q] RIL Confusion

Hi Everyone,
I'm a bit confused with RIL files and i would like to have some clarifications.
From what i am reading on sense roms needs to be flashed with RILs which i get. I currently have Radio 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M and i flash the Ril 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M when i'm using this ROM DHD_WWE_3.12.405.1_STOCK_rooted_by_nitr00. Ok, so for AOSP/AOKP/MIUI Roms i shouldn't need to install andy RILs correct? Just install the ROM and go, right? Also if i do want to try out Sabsa Prime v8.5 is there a new set of Rils that i need to use or do i use the Ril i was using before?
For people who have different brand phones other than HTC is there a Ril alternate that needs to be installed to match the radio or is it flash ROM and go?
Many thanks everyone. This have been stopping me from trialing out different Roms except for modified sense gingerbread roms like ARHD.

dragon884 said:
Hi Everyone,
I'm a bit confused with RIL files and i would like to have some clarifications.
From what i am reading on sense roms needs to be flashed with RILs which i get. I currently have Radio 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M and i flash the Ril 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M when i'm using this ROM DHD_WWE_3.12.405.1_STOCK_rooted_by_nitr00. Ok, so for AOSP/AOKP/MIUI Roms i shouldn't need to install andy RILs correct? Just install the ROM and go, right? Also if i do want to try out Sabsa Prime v8.5 is there a new set of Rils that i need to use or do i use the Ril i was using before?
For people who have different brand phones other than HTC is there a Ril alternate that needs to be installed to match the radio or is it flash ROM and go?
Many thanks everyone. This have been stopping me from trialing out different Roms except for modified sense gingerbread roms like ARHD.
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Only use RILs on ROMs that are both Sense and pre-ICS. For all other ROMs (like Sabsa Prime, which is ICS) you just flash the ROM and you're good.

bananagranola said:
Only use RILs on ROMs that are both Sense and pre-ICS. For all other ROMs (like Sabsa Prime, which is ICS) you just flash the ROM and you're good.
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Just to make it a little more understandable:
Every Rom needs a RIL;
But in many Custom Roms the Devs already build in the RILs;
The RIL must correspond with your Radio; if it doesnt, you will end up with no Reception;
See the quote below and the the related Thread for more detailed Information.
I just followed the discussion some days ago, cause I wanted to update My Desire HD to the latest Radio, and didn't wanted to brick my phone.
It's always better to understand why things behave like they do, instead of follow some instruction without being aware whats happening.
ShadowPony said:
I don't entirely agree with your statements.
EVERY ROM comes with a RIL. Period. No exception, otherwise the radio doesn't work.
For AOSP ROMs there is a RIL, but have not seen it apart from ROM.
With Sense everything gets weirder because HTC released a new RIL for almost any combination of Sense with OS (at least until ICS, where old RILs no longer function properly)
even with any sense ROM, you can only flash the baseband (radio), and if you have reception problems, then also go for the RIL
also, the latest radio with RIL is: 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30564790#post30564790 (this thread)
@o4kareg, GetRIL reports matching baseband/RIL for me with 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M and the corresponding RIL
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Greetings from Cologne
unbeteiligter

I use Sabsa Prime 8.5 on radio 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M without flashing any RIL. GPS and Phone works brilliant!

hardsoft said:
I use Sabsa Prime 8.5 on radio 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M without flashing any RIL. GPS and Phone works brilliant!
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Right!!
your Rom has the RIL included...
my DHD runs on radio 12.69a.60.29U_26.17.14.11_M also without extra installing RIL...
cause it's included in my ROM by the Dev.

unbeteiligter said:
Right!!
your Rom has the RIL included...
my DHD runs on radio 12.69a.60.29U_26.17.14.11_M also without extra installing RIL...
cause it's included in my ROM by the Dev.
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So if i don't want to update my radio what RIL should i use for my version? will the gingerbread Ril be used? and how about AOSP roms? I had be experiences updating the radio before. i've update radio + matching RIL and my phone cannot hold a call connection longer than 10mins.

dragon884 said:
So if i don't want to update my radio what RIL should i use for my version? will the gingerbread Ril be used? and how about AOSP roms? I had be experiences updating the radio before. i've update radio + matching RIL and my phone cannot hold a call connection longer than 10mins.
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Unless you have a GB Sense ROM, just use the RIL that came with the ROM.

[Q] Baseband/Radio & Ril..

Hello.
Quick questions:
- Can the baseband/radio/modem (same thing, right?) be changed on a rooted S-ON HOX? Saw an old thread saying it can, but im not convinced..
- Where can i find information of different RILs, basebands and their compatibility
- Are there any reason for changing the baseband or RIL, and is it worth it? This is individual, but give me your shot.
I used GetRIL to change the RIL to what it recommended.. When i rebooted the phone, i had no GSM coverage.. Not the best first time experience with modified RIL...
Thanks in advance!
TwinA

Anyone...?

TwinAdk said:
1. Can the baseband/radio/modem (same thing, right?) be changed on a rooted S-ON HOX? Saw an old thread saying it can, but im not convinced..
2. Where can i find information of different RILs, basebands and their compatibility
3. Are there any reason for changing the baseband or RIL, and is it worth it? This is individual, but give me your shot.
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1. Yes, there is a thread called shipped radio collection with flashable zips, but I don't recommend messing with those.
2. Don't know. Sorry.
3. If you get no GSM reception after flashing a new ROM. It is pointless to change RIL just out of curiosity.
Some ROMs, including ICJ, require a special version of getRIL to be used: 0.94b if I remember right. Maybe that caused the issues for you.
Sent from my One X

Where can I find the latest Rogers Radio?

I have an unlocked edition HTC M8 with a GPE ROM running.
I would like to find the latest Rogers radio to flash to see if I can get better reception.
Where would I find it? Can I flash the radio even if I'm running a GPE ROM and my phone is not a Rogers M8?

Yes you can flash the radio, although I found issues flashing the non-GPe one on my EU M8. As for where to find the radio, good start is the Radios thread in Development...

EddyOS said:
Yes you can flash the radio, although I found issues flashing the non-GPe one on my EU M8. As for where to find the radio, good start is the Radios thread in Development...
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What were the issues? Any change in signal strength?

BrandonPrice31 said:
What were the issues? Any change in signal strength?
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WiFi issues (wouldn't find my 5GHz network), wouldn't get 4G/LTE in places it would otherwise...