Well, we all know how terrible the ICS update from Samsung was. I am in a situation where I need to go back to GB. I am thinking about Calkulin's rom, because it is based off on EL29 GB, which was very stable and had none of the issues Samsung introduced witht he ICS OTA update.
I know that CM9 is almost released to beta, and that there is an install guide for our phone using the Alpha 6 build. Since this is based on ICS, will all of the bugs in the Samsung released version be an issue here? I know the CM team is fantastic, but maybe I just don't understand how they go about creating a build for our phones.
I ran Calk 3.0 for months. Great ROM, virtually no problems to speak of. I just switched to CM9 and it's a little buggy, but I'm really enjoying it. If you want the safe route, go with Calk 3.0; If you're willing to deal with random issues, CM9 is your ROM.
Cm9 is great but the battery life just isn't there yet (not sure, may be ics in general).
I've gone back to EG30 and couldn't be happier.
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Cm9 is great but the battery life just isn't there yet (not sure, may be ics in general).
I've gone back to EG30 and couldn't be happier.
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EG30 stock+CWM ? or any specific rom to look at? links pls
Calkins EL29 is what I just went back to today, I was on Cm9, there is a serious data loss that needs to be fixed. Other than that it was amazing. Smooth, beautiful, but the data dropping out was to much for me. I'll wait for a beta and hope it gets fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Epic_4G_Touch/ROMs
EG30, and then used the auto-root.zip that's floating around here somewhere.
Hasn't bugged me to update, but I'll look into that if/when it happens.
I'm still rocking Calk's 2.8.1
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Well, we all know how terrible the ICS update from Samsung was. I am in a situation where I need to go back to GB. I am thinking about Calkulin's rom, because it is based off on EL29 GB, which was very stable and had none of the issues Samsung introduced witht he ICS OTA update.
I know that CM9 is almost released to beta, and that there is an install guide for our phone using the Alpha 6 build. Since this is based on ICS, will all of the bugs in the Samsung released version be an issue here? I know the CM team is fantastic, but maybe I just don't understand how they go about creating a build for our phones.
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There are so many things wrong with this post I'm not quite sure where to start....
1. Not to flame you, but "we all" don't know how terrible ff18 is, as ff18 is the base for two of our most bulletproof roms ( blu kuban and goodness) and many other fine roms as well
2. If you "need" to go back to gb its either simply a matter of either personal preferance or the inability to troubleshoot using information posted all over these boards... there is nothing majorly wrong with ff18, it has a few small bugs, but overall is very solid... we did not see many complaints when people were running the leak before the OTA
3. CM9 is great, its also an AOSP rom, so it has nothing to do with any rom from Samsung. That the point of it. Still not sure what "bugs"you're referring to as you don't go into specifics...
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There are so many things wrong with this post I'm not quite sure where to start....
1. Not to flame you, but "we all" don't know how terrible ff18 is, as ff18 is the base for two of our most bulletproof roms ( blu kuban and goodness) and many other fine roms as well
2. If you "need" to go back to gb its either simply a matter of either personal preferance or the inability to troubleshoot using information posted all over these boards... there is nothing majorly wrong with ff18, it has a few small bugs, but overall is very solid... we did not see many complaints when people were running the leak before the OTA
3. CM9 is great, its also an AOSP rom, so it has nothing to do with any rom from Samsung. That the point of it. Still not sure what "bugs"you're referring to as you don't go I to specifics...
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You should have read closer. He was asking IF CM9 had the same bugs as the Samsung update.
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CM9 doesn't have the same bugs as the sammy release totally different builds.
Go CM9 if you want the latest and greatest real ROM ever IMHO.
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You should have read closer. He was asking IF CM9 had the same bugs as the Samsung update.
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Not really, as I'm still not sure what bugs he's referring to in the first place, and any bugs in cm9 would be listed in the op/ changelog / etc of the cm9 thread anyway... but as its AOSP common sense dictates that it has next to nothing in common with an official build
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There are so many things wrong with this post I'm not quite sure where to start....
1. Not to flame you, but "we all" don't know how terrible ff18 is, as ff18 is the base for two of our most bulletproof roms ( blu kuban and goodness) and many other fine roms as well
2. If you "need" to go back to gb its either simply a matter of either personal preferance or the inability to troubleshoot using information posted all over these boards... there is nothing majorly wrong with ff18, it has a few small bugs, but overall is very solid... we did not see many complaints when people were running the leak before the OTA
3. CM9 is great, its also an AOSP rom, so it has nothing to do with any rom from Samsung. That the point of it. Still not sure what "bugs"you're referring to as you don't go into specifics...
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I disagree. I've been using the goodness ROM & I experienced the dreadful Android OS battery drain bug.
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I disagree. I've been using the goodness ROM & I experienced the dreadful Android OS battery drain bug.
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again I wouldn't call that a bug... android os is going to use the most power outside of the screen, so if you don't have a lot of screen time it'll be a pretty high percentage... secondly do you have better battery stats installed? If its really using a lot of power you're probably not hitting deep sleep at any point, you need to figure out what's wakelocking it. The last thread I saw with a guy complaining about android os power use, when finally convinced to post screen caps of his better battery stats had something like 1300 wake locks, all he had to do was change a few settings... These things are not "bugs" in the rom as many of you are putting it but simple settings that you have that need to be changed in order to make the most efficient use of the battery. You've provided no evidence for this bug other than an anecdotal statement and I 100% gaurentee you if actual battery stats were posted a simple and obvious solution could and would be found. These threads are bad as they do not seek to solve any problems but only say things are broken, when they are not- every battery complaint could be solved just using the search bar- this is an enthuaist website and not everything will work 100% with no effort whatsoever on your part. Like the intro video used to say xda is not a place to come to make your phone cool, its for learning... ics is very different than gb and if you don't like it, fine, but don't post that things are broken or buggy when they are not and all that's needed is a search for information all ready posted to fix the issue. I'll post a screen cap of my battery life on goodness to support my point, I'm on stock battery and not running any tweaks other than properly sleeping....
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again I wouldn't call that a bug... android os is going to use the most power outside of the screen, so if you don't have a lot of screen time it'll be a pretty high percentage... secondly do you have better battery stats installed? If its really using a lot of power you're probably not hitting deep sleep at any point, you need to figure out what's wakelocking it. The last thread I saw with a guy complaining about android os power use, when finally convinced to post screen caps of his better battery stats had something like 1300 wake locks, all he had to do was change a few settings... These things are not "bugs" in the rom as many of you are putting it but simple settings that you have that need to be changed in order to make the most efficient use of the battery. You've provided no evidence for this bug other than an anecdotal statement and I 100% gaurentee you if actual battery stats were posted a simple and obvious solution could and would be found. These threads are bad as they do not seek to solve any problems but only say things are broken, when they are not- every battery complaint could be solved just using the search bar- this is an enthuaist website and not everything will work 100% with no effort whatsoever on your part. Like the intro video used to say xda is not a place to come to make your phone cool, its for learning... ics is very different than gb and if you don't like it, fine, but don't post that things are broken or buggy when they are not and all that's needed is a search for information all ready posted to fix the issue. I'll post a screen cap of my battery life on goodness to support my point, I'm on stock battery and not running any tweaks other than properly sleeping....
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Well its obviously been an issue with a **** load of people & they havnt mentioned anything about adjusting settings to fix it. What "settings" are you talking about?
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Well its obviously been an issue with a **** load of people & they havnt mentioned anything about adjusting settings to fix it. What "settings" are you talking about?
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I can't speak to your device since you've not provided any information about it... however if you do full wipes when flashing, not no data, calibrate your battery and allow a few days to settle that's a good start. After that use better battery stats to determine exactly what is causing wake locks and not letting your device hit deep sleep and fix it... set up syncs properly and turn off unnecessary ones, use the toggles to turn off wifi, Bluetooth, and 4g when not in use.... these things will all help, a lot, and if done would probably solve 85% of the battery complaints that have assailed this board after the ota.... if you still are having issues look into phakers placebo script, or kobridges tweaks, search for people who have had similar issues and the solutions they've found for them, should you find it necessary to post about it after doing all of the afformentioned provide as much, detailed, information as possible including screencaps of your better battery stats, what rom/kernel you are on and the steps you've taken so far... the information is out there and people are willing to help, but simply posting "battery sux everyone thinks so" will not result in anything getting fixed... it is not difficult, it simply requires some research and problem solving
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I can't speak to your device since you've not provided any information about it... however if you do full wipes when flashing, not no data, calibrate your battery and allow a few days to settle that's a good start. After that use better battery stats to determine exactly what is causing wake locks and not letting your device hit deep sleep and fix it... set up syncs properly and turn off unnecessary ones, use the toggles to turn off wifi, Bluetooth, and 4g when not in use.... these things will all help, a lot, and if done would probably solve 85% of the battery complaints that have assailed this board after the ota.... if you still are having issues look into phakers placebo script, or kobridges tweaks, search for people who have had similar issues and the solutions they've found for them, should you find it necessary to post about it after doing all of the afformentioned provide as much, detailed, information as possible including screencaps of your better battery stats, what rom/kernel you are on and the steps you've taken so far... the information is out there and people are willing to help, but simply posting "battery sux everyone thinks so" will not result in anything getting fixed... it is not difficult, it simply requires some research and problem solving
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How would you explain spotty, laggy menu/app load performance, High WiFi reconnects and battery usage on a Stock, OTA Sprint/Samsung update that was factory reset? People on the forums can't really correct these. They worked great in GB.
bottom line is if you want a stable rom that runs smooth as butter Calkulins e l 29 is great!
I ran Calks Roms for the longest time. He has made some great Roms but I think he's move on from the E4TG. I enjoy running the newest and often a bit buggy Roms currently on Blu Kuban (amazing). Calks 3.0 is pretty rock solid if your looking for a mostly stock rom with root and tweaks.
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Hey guys im curious is there anyone who has been able to fully replace EC05 roms with one of the gingerbread roms availalbe? And in doing so keeping the stability, battery performance, and speed of the EC05 roms? I've personally gone from an amazing experience with ACS SFR 1.2 to Ginger Bamboozled and ERA hurricane rom and personally have not seen any benefits with keeping gingerbread. I notice no battery improvements and the phone has slowed down significantly. The only plus i've seen with gingerbread is the cool CRT off animation. Note i've never run the commands to stop processes that update in the background i.e. DRM and SNS, which from what I read make a fairly big difference with getting better battery life on EH17 roms. So at this point I'm thinking of going back to SFR 1.2 or another EC05 rom. Is there someone out there that can give me some useful tips on how to make the Gingerbread roms run smoother for me or am I just wasting my time? Also I used to get random Reboots on Gingerbread but i've noticed that it has stopped, odd. Oh almost forgot I use my keyboard all the time for writing emails for work and not having the skipped letters fix is so annoying. I want to shoot my phone sometimes.
Have you tried Spare Parts and setting all animations to FAST in it? I am on Bonsai B14 EG22 and my phone is about as fast as it was on EC05 ROMs. I do stop all processes when I first boot and have a few frozen with Titanium.
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Have you tried Spare Parts and setting all animations to FAST in it? I am on Bonsai B14 EG22 and my phone is about as fast as it was on EC05 ROMs. I do stop all processes when I first boot and have a few frozen with Titanium.
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I don't care if that does anything for the actual speed or not...its a hell of a placebo effect. Another thing is you could oc with tegrak
As of right now, I don't see any advantage of using a Gingerbread Rom. I was in the same boat as you. I tried a few of them but due to the random reboots and keyboard skips, I couldn't take it anymore. I'm now using the Epic Revolution Rom and I love it. I won't be going back to Gingerbread till the official release.
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Depends on the apps you have
I'm running the ERA OLYMPUS 1.6 EH06 ROM. I hoard apps and that's really bad for performance of the device and battery. I haven't frozen the SNS/Updates but I freeze the DRM every time I install a ROM anyway. I just managed to get all the apps that like running in the background to not do that by messing with the settings and clearing widgets. I can now last at least 5 hours on battery while actually using the phone. My battery life has been about the same on every ROM I've ever used. I would say to try this ROM with Journaling enabled and running Chris' new EH17 Plus kernel. I am also using the EH17 modem. Everything is working pretty well for me now.
No good reason to keep the leaks. However, if you are converted to ext4 and use the v6 supercharge script its as smooth and responsive as sfr 1.2 at 1.4ghz.
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I've been dealing with the same dilemma the past week. I've found that there's really no pros to keeping the gb roms. Although I really like the theme on bamboozle as well as my quadrant stats. Speaking of which, can anyone tell me where I can get the SII lockscreen that comes with bamboozle? It's definitely my preferred lock screen. If anyone can help that'd be awesome thanks!
Thanks for good responses
Thanks guys for all the feedback, I think i'm being swayed more towards the EC05 roms until the release of gingerbread source files. I think the biggest thing now that look at it is the keyboard letter skips. I rely on my phones keyboard far to much to write really fast work emails and no matter how I setup my virtual keyboard or auto correction on TouchPal keyboard or Swype, its just not accurate enough and I waste more time trying to fix the auto corrections. Thanks again everyone and I really hope this thread assist others with making a their choices on which Rom to Choose or which version of Rom to choose. Froyo here I come.... now i gotta figure out if I want to go with Era or ACS lol.
In my opinion, no. After trolling all around using GB Leaks I finally came back to Froyo (Bonsai 4.1.3) because of the stability and speed.
I think its best just to wait for something official when it can be polished and tweaked with.
I too have been up and down the development pages, trying out different roms an modems, froyo and GB. Froyo was cool when i was using it, but I like the way GB looks. I actually had more problems with the Froyo roms than with GB roms, but that could be bc im getting better at rooting.
Right now im running RandomROM 2.3.4 on the EG22 modem with generation x theme. I get a couple of framework fc's throughout the day, but it doesnt seem to actually fc anything. I seem to just get the notification. battery life is amazing. I used to have to charge my phone after only 6 hours, even with light use. Now I dont need a charger until the end of the day, even with moderate to heavy use. I even use it as my wifi at home for xbox and whatnot. Touchpal's hardware prediction is pretty cool, although I havent really noticed much key skipping without it. I'm still new at rooting, so I don't do too much with oc and such.
I get about twice the battery life using RandomROMs hawk v4 vs any of the ec05 builds. Haven't experienced any TV's yet and only one random reboot after running the v6 script.
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*fc's
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*fc's
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Lol that's funny(x
You realize there's an "edit" option right?
And lol @ "TV's"
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Lol that's funny(x
You realize there's an "edit" option right?
And lol @ "TV's"
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Yeah I know. I tried editing it a couple different times but for some reason it wouldn't let me submit. And I didn't realize that fc's auto corrected to TV's lol.
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Yeah I know. I tried editing it a couple different times but for some reason it wouldn't let me submit. And I didn't realize that fc's auto corrected to TV's lol.
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Haha funny stuff
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THIS THREAD IS BASED ON HANDS ON USE
Use an app other than Tapatalk, or view via desktop to get the full benefits of the OP.
This thread is now CHANGED to everything battery related on new roms. Thread used to be called "BEST ROM FOR EPIC 4G TOUCH" but due to recent flood of posts about bad battery life on various roms especially Jelly Bean roms, I have decided to change this into a thread about battery performance. Users can still post their pictures about how they got their battery to perform.
I will and I am sure others will too try their best to help with any battery related issues or questions you might have. To get proper advise, please post screen shots of battery usage along with screen on time. Also try to get an app such as Better Battery Stats or Gsam Battery monitor and provide screen shots of your kernel wake locks and parital wake locks from Bettery Battery Stats. Do not worry if you can't figure out the information. We will try to help you figure it out
The goal is to achieve maximum battery life possible by using various resources already available such as "PROJECTLACEBO" - For E4GT Optimization along with other tips from members who have been with this phone for a long time.
If you don't care about what happened in this thread prior to the change jump to this page directly.
POST 2 will be modified accordingly.
In order to give new flashers, or those new to the E4GT, a better answer when it comes to which rom runs the smoothest, (or at the very least, has better battery life) these roms for the E4GT have been tested for at least 90-95% of battery, each.
There are far too many subjective opinions as to which runs the best. THIS THREAD IS BASED ON HANDS ON EXPERIENCE WITH THESE ROMS.
This is an opportunity to lay to rest preferences based on single rom testing. The sole purpose of the thread is to help the E4GT community.
The objective here is based on peoples EXPERIENCE with these roms. This will help determine:
-which has better battery life
-which experiences/doesn't experience LoS, force close, freeze...
-Name of each rom as it is being tested
-Four screen shots per rom.
1. About phone (displaying build number)
2. Battery at 98-100%
3. Display time (1-8%)
4. Battery duration (5-10%)
-No charge on device.
These roms were chosen based on tests and regular maintenance, and will be updated as the roms are updated.
PLEASE MAKE SURE TO LIST (IF ANY) WHAT THEME AND TWEAKS YOU ARE USING
I will be running all ROMs stock as published by DEV. May be some visual mods but nothing more such as battery tweaks etc.
AS ALWAYS. FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! DON'T FORGET TO THANK THESE DEVELOPERS, THEMERS, MODS, AND CONTRIBUTERS!!!
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*ICS ROMS*
AnaKonda ~ Review
AOKP ~ Review
[ROM][COALITION][TN&TR]"Black"
BLEND ICS ~ Review
Blu Kuban ~ Review
BOA VeNuM's Own ~ Review
Calkulin's ~ Review
CaLk N vEnUm TwEaKeD sToCk
Celstial Body
Cerberus
CleanBlue
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This rom is the closest to aosp as touchwiz rom can get as far as theming goes. Very nice job in theming this rom with ICS blue. As you can see battery was amazing. No other issues what so ever.
CodeName ~ Review
CyanogenMod 9
EpicTouchAOSPICSmod ~ Review
ET4G s5 v0.8
For some reason phone was not going into deep sleep half of the time. Stayed at 200MHz. My guess is thats why battery performance was poor. I am sure messing with governors and other things could have achieved deep sleep. But out of box, very smooth, nice gs3 launcher etc. Oh yeah and advanced data restore from nand is not best option for this rom. It will mess up widgets and launcher.
Frankenstein's Ego--Review
FTW Annihilation
GamerMod V1.1
HoOliGaN
HTC Sense 4.0
Kobridge's Tweaked Stock FI03 ROM
First of all, I installed this rom using method 1 in the op of the rom and it didn't work out so well. Sprint id continues to force close. And as you can see from screen shots for some reason android os % was high and stay awake for 6 hours. In short don't follow this method to install. My guess is since this is complete stock rom with just added few tweaks, it is missing some things which is removed by most custom roms. Overall it was smooth if you ignore sprint id fc. 4g indeed is fast. Sorry that I forgot to grab the setup screenshot.
LightWeight v0.5 ~
M'ICS ~ Review
Deep sleeps like a baby. Kernel is awesome. Nice theming. Very smooth. Everything works.
MIUI ~ Review
PARANOIDANDROID
Phantom's Blazer Rom ~ Review
Surprised to see stock kernel give such an awesome battery life. No issues with rom. No fcs, reboots, los etc. Everything works!
Purple Galaxy
RE-CALKED
Very stable. On latest ics leak available as of 9/18. Check out all the mods. There are tons! Some say FI03 gives faster 4g. But no issues, no fcs, los, reboots.
ReTurN oF ThE LivinG ReJeCTz(rom)FI03 DREAM TEAM
STAR POWER ~ Review
STd
Super Galaxy
Very smooth. The font looks extra clean. Nice S3 themeing. No Fcs. No los. Comes in 2 versions. Debloated version is the one tested.
SuperNovA ROM v.2.0
TERMINUS
Tersus Satus
tFF18 with FF18 repack with AGAT recovery 0.2.1
*TheCollective*AoCP - CP2
Something new with OTA update in the settings on AOSP based type of rom. Couple of bugs such as no video recording. But overall very smooth. No los or fcs
The Universe
Touched by a SGSIII
Toxic Stock
VeNuM ICE
Wicked Sensations ~ Review
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BOOST
FG20 Stock, Rooted, Deodexed (ICS / 4.0.4 / Boost)
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*JB ROMS*
Links:
AOKP JB
Stable. No los, reboots, Fcs. Nice JB animations. Google Now works. Only major issue was 4g was not going over 1mbps. I get around 4-6mbps. Others have reported this in the rom thread too. Camera can do burst shots!
AOKP JB 4.2.1 Magical Unicorn E4GT
AOSP JellyBean 4.1.1 ~ How to ~ Review
AOSP JB 4.2.1
[ROM] [4.2.2] [unofficial] BAKED blackbean-9 [5/6/13]
JB Black Bean with Jelly"FK23 Themed Modded Solid!
[ROM] [TeaM VeNuM] The Blu Kuban JB GB27 Odexed
[ROM]ChameleonOS JB 4.2.2 (5/04/13)stock/AOSP hybrid[Unofficial] for now
CM10 Beta2
Beta 2 is extremely smooth. There are some minor issues like low audio with headphones. Battery life is very good. Everything else works. Gps, 3g, 4g etc. Compass is wonky but it can be fixed easily with the JB tweaks.
CNA-3.6.0-Jelly-4.1.1 (JoyRide)
Buttery smooth. No fcs, los, reboots. Update profile/prl before installing rom or 4g will be slow. Gps works. Definitely different then AOKP/CM10. But has most features of those 2 roms.
CyanogenMod 10.1 - WILD FOR THE NIGHT
[ROM] Evervolv | 3.2.0p4 [AOSP 4.2.2]
[ROM][4.2.2] Extend ROM Series (Updated 4/24/13) [AOKP][ChaOS][SN][AOCP]
[FK23 TW JB]Kobridge's Stock ROM
{ROM}{JB}{4.1.2}{Shadow God}Jellyverse v3.0{GB27}
Pegasusq 200-1000. Greenify. Forgot to take a screenie when it was 100%.. Just like ICS JV, this is super smooth. Nice themeing. Awesome mods and support. No other issues.
[ROM]AOKP JB [5/6/13]4.2.2 Magical Unicorn E4GT Unofficial. DD here!
MIJJz JB GOODNESS JB 4.1.2
MIUI v5 2.9.7
PACman
PARANOIDANDROID
Buttery smooth. No fcs, los, reboots. Update profile/prl before installing rom or 4g will be slow. Gps works. Table/phablet UI is awesome. Running pegasusq governor with 1000-200 cpu freq. Battery on Jelly bean roms is kinda wonky. They will drain somewhat fast but climb back up.
[AOSPA 4.2.1][01/25] PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 betaNINE
[ROM][4.2.2] Quattro v3 - SGS4ified AOSP [BBB8]
[ROM][OFFICIAL][JB 4.2.2][AOKP/CM10.1/PA] ReVolt JB D710 [UPDATE!!5/03!!!]
[ROM]Unofficial Slim Bean[5/3/13]Build5[ JB 4.2][Light&Fast]E4GT SPH-D710
[FK23 TW JB]Touched By SGSIII
[ROM]AoCP The COLECTIVE JB 4.2.2(Unofficial)5/6/13
[Team ScarLick] [FL16] The Dark Angel Rises
{Team Rejectz}Presentz UniverseJB aka Jellyverse
[ROM][4.2.2][AOKP/CM] Vanilla RootBox [5/4/13][v3.9.1][Per-App-DPI][PIE]
[ROM][TW][4/19/13] White Out Rom V.3 + ComaDose v 1.3 ---Goddly
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Special thanks to 1brainsurgeon who was the original creator of the thread.
1brainsurgeon said:
BluesRulez will be taking over this thread. I will be checking in and helping when I can. Please direct your questions/ concerns to BluesRulez.
Thanks guys/gals
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BluesRulez said:
Thank you for the opportunity. :angel:
To be honest when I first got this phone, I was overwhelmed by all the different roms out there. I wanted a source where they were all in one place and had info such as the one brainsurgeon has provided us. This thread and the wiki were the 2 main places I looked.
I realize that at the beginning some were confused and didn't agree with the purpose of the thread but trust me this thread had helped me and I am sure others have been helped too.
With that said, I will be starting to manage the thread once I have some questions cleared up.
(And sorry for long post!)
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Battery tips updated 10/27/2012
Tip 1:- Keeping your wifi on even when it is not needed is not always beneficial. For example when phone is in deep sleep. Wifi could keep your phone awake and keep waking your phone up. To save some battery it is better to have wifi disconnect/turn off when phone is sleeping. Thanks to PhAkEer you can use this script to achieve that.
Original post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32408825&postcount=396
PhAkEer said:
With to stay on 'never' it still obeys wifi_idle_ms
I'm not even sure what default setting is but I usually set it to like 6 or so
For whoever
http://db.tt/SQdxsNUb
If you untar that file, move it to xbin and execute it... your WiFi will sleep according to your sleep policy.
A heads up though, that script also sets gtalk idle ms,
Long press timeout, dchp max retries, MMS max message size 99999999, disables drop boxes spyware... etc..
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To use it, download zarchiver from play store. Download the file PhAkEer posted. Extract the settings file anywhere using zarchiver and then move it to /system/xbin folder. Also set permissions to execute. This can be easily done using ES File Explorer and going into properties of that Settings file.
Tip 2:- Run all JB roms on this setup
-Governor = Pegasusq
-Max cpu freq = 1000Mhz
-Min cpu freq = 200Mhz
JB roms are so smooth that underclocking doesn't affect performance a bit.
Tip 3:- Turn off auto sync. Unless your are a very busy person and can't afford to miss any e-mails and have to read them as soon as they come, I don't see a reason for auto sync to be on.. Not just email but this is for all sorts of data sync. Manually sync from time to time OR setup e-mail programs to sync every 4 hours or so.
Tip 4:- If you are seeing lots of audio_out wake locks in better battery stats, go to sound settings and turn off lock screen sounds, tap sounds etc.
I'm having trouble following the intent of the thread.. Personal rom preference and opinion (which you don't want?) comes from having experience with the rom (which you do want). Further, you've already linked (broken links btw) to probably the 3 best roms for E4GT.
I'm not trying to be douchebaggy or a picker of nits, just confused.
Not to be douche baggy, I will simplify for you. Any forum outside of a particular rom itself asking 'which rom is the best?' is usually flooded with opinions about roms that the poster has never tested. Many times people will insist one rom is better without ever flashing the other.
Furthermore, flashing and running these roms that many consider to be the best, and running them for an equal amount of time with their previous data setup, will help give a more honest and accurate answer as to which is better. I'm fully aware that all devices have their own personality. This will help pinpoint the best (at least battery wise), regardless.
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And this is just your opinion.... Lots of people think that cm7 , cm9 , MIUI and name any other ROM is the best .... It's impossible to say the best because I like my roms a certain way just like you like yours a certain way ....
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Epix4G said:
And this is just your opinion.... Lots of people think that cm7 , cm9 , MIUI and name any other ROM is the best .... It's impossible to say the best because I like my roms a certain way just like you like yours a certain way ....
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How's that cm9 running on your E4GT???
It's simple. Run what MANY consider the best roms (posted above) with your exact same setup and see which one runs better for you. Which has better battery life for you? Which feels snappier?... If you don't have the energy or motivation to do so, then don't.
1brainsurgeon said:
How's that cm9 running on your E4GT???
It's simple. Run what MANY consider the three best roms (posted above) with your exact same setup and see which you runs better for you. Which has better battery life for you? Which feels snappier?... If you don't have the energy or motivation to do so, then don't.
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It's simple everyone likes their on thing .... There is no best .... I run cm 7 and get over 13 hours on battery with 3 to 4 hours of screen on ... Most of the roms here are about the same .... There really is not one that is head and shoulders above the others so it basically comes Down to which one you like as far as looks and such ... They are equally good shall we say ...and some offer more settings and such
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Epix4G said:
It's simple everyone likes their on thing .... There is no best .... I run cm 7 and get over 13 hours on battery with 3 to 4 hours of screen on ... Most of the roms here are about the same .... There really is not one that is head and shoulders above the others so it basically comes Down to which one you like as far as looks and such ... They are equally good shall we say ...and some offer more settings and such
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You're not what I am looking for in this thread. Kindly move on. This is a challenge and you are flooding the first page with why people shouldn't try this. I have renamed the thread to make it more understandable
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I get 1 day 6+, hours, almost 4 hours screen on time with Blazer 3.7. That's the best I get consistently out of these roms.
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MustWarnothers said:
I get 1 day 6+, hours, almost 4 hours screen on time with Blazer 3.7. That's the best I get consistently out of these roms.
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right on! Can ya put some sceenies up?
Running stock ROM on my iPhone 4S. Feels very smooth and snappy but battery life sucks.
Oh wait...
_MetalHead_ said:
Running stock ROM on my iPhone 4S. Feels very smooth and snappy but battery life sucks.
Oh wait...
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Haha. I hear that's a great device. Tell me all about it
1brainsurgeon said:
Haha. I hear that's a great device. Tell me all about it
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ROFL don't get me started. I have a love/hate relationship with this thing.
Hopefully I grabbed the right screens. At a work meeting, heh.
I did have airplane mode on for a bit (not long at all) towards the end as I get horrific signal at my buddies apt building which saps the battery like crazy.
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_MetalHead_ said:
ROFL don't get me started. I have a love/hate relationship with this thing.
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Well, they sure do look purty Hey, when you get a chance, can you throw up a screenie of your build.
Ooops ^ mustwarnothers^
Strongsteve's no changes made and Calkulin's theme added but his settings...
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MustWarnothers said:
Hopefully I grabbed the right screens. At a work meeting, heh.
I did have airplane mode on for a bit (not long at all) towards the end as I get horrific signal at my buddies apt building which saps the battery like crazy.
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can ya throw up a build screenie when ya get a chance?
JohnCorleone said:
Strongsteve's no changes made and Calkulin's theme added but his settings...
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Corleone!! Being Patriotic...nice to see ya in here!
Have you run Blazers?
1brainsurgeon said:
Well, they sure do look purty Hey, when you get a chance, can you throw up a screenie of your build.
Ooops ^ mustwarnothers^
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The great _MetalHead_ delivers
1brainsurgeon said:
Corleone!! Being Patriotic...nice to see ya in here!
Have you run Blazers?
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Haven't tried Blazer yet. I have been pretty loyal to strongsteve's ROM but I have a Calkulin nandroid as well because I always have a black themed setup and a blue one. Plus I have tested a few themes for friends. I like to change it up from time to time
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On the FB17 ROM (Calkulin's rooted), and Rogue 1.2.1 FB17 Kernal, my vibration is sucking really bad. I even downloaded a vibration app to test it, and I can barely feel it on max.
I restored back to Blazer 4.0 to see if it was my phone damaged in some way, and it worked perfect on Blazer.
Is anyone else having this problem? And is there any fixes for this, such as an app to increase vibration intensity?
Thanks in advanced for any help!
I think I remember reading that this is just a bug with the ICS leaks. I don't think a fix has been found.
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I've asked dev's but none really gave me a straight reply like they knew. But thanks for the quick answer, i'v been looking at some of the framework but don't see anything that has to do with it.
I am on the FB21 version and it is having that problem still... its just a known bug, and will undoubtedly be fixed with future leaks/the official release
vibrate...
I was on stock rooted FB17, then stock rooted FB21, then Blend FB21 and I keep having this issue. This kills me bc I work at an airport and usually depend on vibrate with calls and texts. I know it's an early stage for these ICS leaks but how great the GB roms had become has spoiled me. I just pray for a fix soon bc it's the only issue that has bothered me and I dont think a workaround exists.
I am bumping this to see if anyone has found a solution. I am absolutely in love with the ICS roms, but every single one I try has this issue. Even CM9 3.1 has it (even though interestingly 2.0 did not...)
I might just go back to GB as my daily til it is fixed.
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Ghost117 said:
I am bumping this to see if anyone has found a solution. I am absolutely in love with the ICS roms, but every single one I try has this issue. Even CM9 3.1 has it (even though interestingly 2.0 did not...)
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Just letting you know that I posted a slight fix in another thread. It's the app -sound manger- I'm back on GB right now but I said slight fix BC others have reported that it's still not as intense as before.
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Running unrooted stock FH13 I'm getting a high percentage of my battery being used up by Android OS when the phone is idling. From what I've gathered this seems to be a pretty common problem with the two official ICS builds, but I'm wondering if anyone has any solutions that doesn't involve reverting to GB or rooting my device. Better Battery Stats typically tells me that the culprit is a wlan kernal wake lock, and sometimes is deleted wake lock (which if I understand correctly could be the same culprit as the wlan_wake lock). So it would seem that Wi-Fi is what's killing me, but I've not had any better battery life when I run 3g all day either. I did a factory reset after upgrading to FF18, but I didn't do it again after upgrading to FH13. Any suggestions?
Also, does anyone know if FI03 has the same issue?
This is xda, why are you here if you don't want to root your device?
Honestly if you root it and get rid of the stock apps and bloat that runs in the background you will get better battery life. The first thing I do on official ics is delete the Sprint and Samsung apps like Sprint zone, media hub, social hub, and extra widgets like accuweather and dual clock.
There are guides everywhere for battery life improvement. Also turn off wifi when your not using it.
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This is xda, why are you here if you don't want to root your device?
Honestly if you root it and get rid of the stock apps and bloat that runs in the background you will get better battery life. The first thing I do on official ics is delete the Sprint and Samsung apps like Sprint zone, media hub, social hub, and extra widgets like accuweather and dual clock.
There are guides everywhere for battery life improvement. Also turn off wifi when your not using it.
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I appreciate the advice. I knew about that option already though. The reason I don't want to root is because aside from this one issue I'm fine with the stock experience, and I honestly just don't have the time to try different builds and tweak things enough to get the most out of a rooted experience. As far as why I'm on xda, there are plenty of unrooted leaks on this forum too so I can't be the only one who doesn't want to root for whatever reason. For general battery improvement, I've looked and I haven't found anything useful aside from either disabling some apps from starting up or accessing the internet at certain times, which would require rooting, or turning off data/wi-fi (which in my opinion defeats many of the purposes of my phone).
I am well aware that turning certain things off or removing certain apps, even those that would require rooting, would help my battery, but my point is that I didn't do any of those things on GB and my battery life was still perfectly fine. My current understanding of the situation is that this is just what the official FH13 ICS rom on the E4GT does and there's nothing I can do about it. I'm hoping I'm wrong and that someone might have some advice, but if that's really the case feel free to confirm my suspicion as well.
Only thing that comes to mind is - after you reset, did you go right back and install all your apps before testing for battery drain?
Did you try turning off auto sync?
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MoHoGalore said:
Only thing that comes to mind is - after you reset, did you go right back and install all your apps before testing for battery drain?
Did you try turning off auto sync?
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Yes, I did just reinstall all of them immediately. I know that it would have been better to put them back on slowly in order to pinpoint an app that may be causing a problem, but that would have taken a lot of time and I didn't think it'd be worth it. Also, right now better battery stats doesn't show any of my apps holding a wake lock for long and I thought it would show up there if it was one of my installed apps causing the problem. Is that not how it works? Because I'm considering factory resetting again when I get the chance, so if it still could be one of my installed apps I might give the gradual app installation a try if I do it.
No I did not turn off auto-sync because being notified automatically about e-mails and such is one of the main reasons I use this phone. I know that it uses more battery when it's on, but I consider it a necessity. However, now that you mention it, I never really did try turning it off just to see how much of a difference it makes. That could be useful diagnostically so I'll probably give that a shot.
Also, on the auto sync note, is there a way for me to change the time interval that the google services wait to check for new notifications? Because I can't find it anywhere and I could have sworn that was an option in GB.
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Yes, I did just reinstall all of them immediately. I know that it would have been better to put them back on slowly in order to pinpoint an app that may be causing a problem, but that would have taken a lot of time and I didn't think it'd be worth it. Also, right now better battery stats doesn't show any of my apps holding a wake lock for long and I thought it would show up there if it was one of my installed apps causing the problem. Is that not how it works? Because I'm considering factory resetting again when I get the chance, so if it still could be one of my installed apps I might give the gradual app installation a try if I do it.
No I did not turn off auto-sync because being notified automatically about e-mails and such is one of the main reasons I use this phone. I know that it uses more battery when it's on, but I consider it a necessity. However, now that you mention it, I never really did try turning it off just to see how much of a difference it makes. That could be useful diagnostically so I'll probably give that a shot.
Also, on the auto sync note, is there a way for me to change the time interval that the google services wait to check for new notifications? Because I can't find it anywhere and I could have sworn that was an option in GB.
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Disclaimer: None of the following is meant to be rude -
You're asking for a shotgun approach to a specific issue.
You do realize that the majority of people that your asking love to take things apart to find out what's wrong, right? Its kinds like taking the screwdriver away and asking someone to fix it.
That being said:
Autosync: App dependent. Check each app. If you have outlook, unfortunately its also on the server side for push notifications. If you have outlook, talk to the admin and ask if they left push at the standard default. You can find those settings through technet. I posted on this issue so you should be able to find it in search.
Each app install: Without a logcat at a minimum, or a verbose battery monitor app, that's a needle in a haystack. Either
A: go the "one at a time" method
B: Research each app for same issue
C: You can find similar posts on this issue since its such a popular one and try the various suggestions.
Either way, you're going to spend the same amount of time, or more, hunting this down.
Ooor, since you don't want to root:
You can flash ek02 and let the OTA process take you to el29 and try the no root method of ignoring future updates or hit the ignore button several times a day.
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awhitey2291 said:
I appreciate the advice. I knew about that option already though. The reason I don't want to root is because aside from this one issue I'm fine with the stock experience, and I honestly just don't have the time to try different builds and tweak things enough to get the most out of a rooted experience. As far as why I'm on xda, there are plenty of unrooted leaks on this forum too so I can't be the only one who doesn't want to root for whatever reason. For general battery improvement, I've looked and I haven't found anything useful aside from either disabling some apps from starting up or accessing the internet at certain times, which would require rooting, or turning off data/wi-fi (which in my opinion defeats many of the purposes of my phone).
I am well aware that turning certain things off or removing certain apps, even those that would require rooting, would help my battery, but my point is that I didn't do any of those things on GB and my battery life was still perfectly fine. My current understanding of the situation is that this is just what the official FH13 ICS rom on the E4GT does and there's nothing I can do about it. I'm hoping I'm wrong and that someone might have some advice, but if that's really the case feel free to confirm my suspicion as well.
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You can be stock rooted on the current over the air build if you are happy with touchwiz ics. When I use touchwiz based roms stock rooted is the way I go. You don't need to worry about tweaks or custom kernels if you want to keep it simple. We all started stock rooted, its a little scary at first but its really the way to go if you want the most from your phone. Its one of those things that you kick yourself for not doing sooner when its finally done.
I have been able to surpass my battery life on EL29 GB with various ics roms for months with similar customization done. Bone stock though I think you are right GB is a little better. A new official ICS update should be released soon FI27 though and they only get better. Give it a try stock and really consider rooting. We will help if you need it.
FYI this is a normal days battery for me. I'm currently running an AOSP rom with stock battery
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Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
your whole post is tldr.
you should post yer jellybomb issues in the... jellybomb thread!
but: TW anything will never be in/work with CM#/AOSP. the end.
and: this will never be moved to dev forum, because you didn't' dev anything.
spodemaster said:
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
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There is already a Jellybomb Bug Report Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006041
^ Post there.
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devynbf said:
There is already a Jellybomb Bug Report Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006041
^ Post there.
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I posted there.
I still think the question of why these dev's don't talk about the strengths, of their particular roms.
and I'm still confused why a group like Team Venum is working on so many different roms, but they again
they don't really try and up sell or distinguish the differences.
spodemaster said:
I posted there.
I still think the question of why these dev's don't talk about the strengths, of their particular roms.
and I'm still confused why a group like Team Venum is working on so many different roms, but they again
they don't really try and up sell or distinguish the differences.
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I'm thinking because it's a matter of taste.. Not what's better.. I, prefer labrats.. It's awesome in my opinion whereas the next fellow xdaer might prefer aokp and so on...
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sparytrainor said:
I'm thinking because it's a matter of taste.. Not what's better.. I, prefer labrats.. It's awesome in my opinion whereas the next fellow xdaer might prefer aokp and so on...
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Well of course thats part of it, but there are different levels of users, some of us want a cool theme, and some of us want to really tweak with our hardware, or have specific applications and tasks we want to optimize our devices to perform.
Since you know team nocturnal already and seem to like it, you should come check out the Lab Rats Rom. It is made by team nocturnal and includes the ever popular updater. There are multiple themes and mods, but there are very few apps and theming included on the base install, that way you choose what you want and it's not forced on you.
Feel free to ask any questions in our thread!
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This is just a pet peeve thing but guys, its CyanogenMod 9/10/10.1, not Cyanogen 9/10/10.1 lol. Not directed at you, just see this a lot in general
To answer some of your question, your apps will work still as the spen still functions as a stylus but some of the more integrated stuff in Touchwiz is not possible. I know on CM10.1, theres some stylus gesture features ive been testing on CM gerrit that bring some of this functionality back.
spodemaster said:
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
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I would suggest you try Stock rooted Deodexed MA7. Then you can use Titanium to remove some of the bloat.
Then if you want to spruce it up a bit you can flash Morphology (Themes section) to change the status bar, dialer etc.
If you want a custom bootanimation Kevinrocksman (Themes section again) has a nice user friendly zip you flash in recovery and you can select a custom bootanimation.
You do what I suggested above and you will have a relatively bug free experience (unless you delete a system app you shouldn't of touched.)
spodemaster said:
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
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I'm sure ull probably protest this statement but it sounds like you didn't follow instructions when flashing. I've been using Jellybomb since the inception and I never had one of those bugs on 13. We have to ask ourselves when we run into problems no one else has what did I do wrong? If no one is helping you figure out ur problems no one else is experiencing them. Sometimes jellybomb works better when u dirty flash on top of an older version sometimes a clean install is better. Every rom and every phone is different. There is somewhat of a luck factor when flashing that everyone expects should be universal to all roms and every phone should act the same. I've literally flashed and restored 20x in different ways and combinations to get some roms working perfect. Sometimes u just have to make sure u have all the files to fix ur phone then just play around. You only get more comfortable with the process each time u flash f it up fix it and reflash. It's not as easy as expecting others to figure it out for you but u get more out of it and u won't feel so helpless in the future. Just my $.02. Also pulling the battery in the middle of a boot cycle is never recommended for any computing device. I suspect u could be right in that ur still experiencing issues from that. U should probably Odin back to stock and try again. Also if ur firmware version isn't lk8 then that firmware is not compatible with Jellybomb 13. 13 is lk8 only. The newer 15.3 is a hybrid so u can use any firmware with the rom. And why are you still on 13 when 15.3 is out anyway?
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