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[Q] Cannot root new Incredible

Hello- I've been reading around this site and I am not sure if what I've found is accurate, I could use the help of those that are informed.
I'm new to Android having only gotten my first incredible yesterday. I tried using unrevoked (v. 3.21 to the best of my knowledge) on windows after installing the appropriate drivers and was unsuccessful two or three times. It would hang at waiting for root or 'we can't get root,' were the two messages I'd receive.
I reset to factory from the bootloader and tried this again on my Mac machine- this was different but still unsuccessful. It would still say 'waiting for root,' however the phone itself was stuck powered on with nothing on the screen. It took me unplugging the mini USB and removing the battery to finally get it to power back on and show something on the screen.
With that said, is there an update from Verizon that causes unrevoked to no longer work? I read that somewhere but am unsure how recent the information is.
Secondly- what I really want to do is enable the Wifi Hotspot feature without having to fork MORE money over to Verizon- am I going down the right path to enable this?
Lastly- can someone please provide a good thread I can read up on regarding handling future updates for Android OS- I assume OTA updates are disabled once rooted, how do I continue to make sure my OS is up to date when this is disabled?
Thanks in advance for your help!

satyr2k2 said:
Hello- I've been reading around this site and I am not sure if what I've found is accurate, I could use the help of those that are informed.
I'm new to Android having only gotten my first incredible yesterday. I tried using unrevoked (v. 3.21 to the best of my knowledge) on windows after installing the appropriate drivers and was unsuccessful two or three times. It would hang at waiting for root or 'we can't get root,' were the two messages I'd receive.
I reset to factory from the bootloader and tried this again on my Mac machine- this was different but still unsuccessful. It would still say 'waiting for root,' however the phone itself was stuck powered on with nothing on the screen. It took me unplugging the mini USB and removing the battery to finally get it to power back on and show something on the screen.
With that said, is there an update from Verizon that causes unrevoked to no longer work? I read that somewhere but am unsure how recent the information is.
Secondly- what I really want to do is enable the Wifi Hotspot feature without having to fork MORE money over to Verizon- am I going down the right path to enable this?
Lastly- can someone please provide a good thread I can read up on regarding handling future updates for Android OS- I assume OTA updates are disabled once rooted, how do I continue to make sure my OS is up to date when this is disabled?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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You most likely have the latest OTA update, which patches the exploit that UnrEVOked 3.21 used to get root. They are currently working on a new exploit for the recent OTA update now.
If you want free wifi tethering, you don't exactly need to root. This'll do the trick: http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/showthread.php?54386-Android-OS-htc-incredible-free-wifi-tethering
Usually the OTA's get incorporated into later ROM releases, so all you'll have to do is download and install the new release for your custom ROM.
If you prefer to have a stock, but rooted ROM, you can download the rooted stock ROMs that usually come out after OTA updates.
Or, usually, there are leaked updates released before the official update comes out. Those are also rooted and usually posted here as well, if you want early release things.
I hope I helped you out, need anything else cleared up?
Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS4.

Blah12543 said:
If you want free wifi tethering, you don't exactly need to root. This'll do the trick: http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/showthread.php?54386-Android-OS-htc-incredible-free-wifi-tethering
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Woah. I've been searching these forums for two weeks looking for this, and thought that my only choice is to root the dang phone. Does this not alert VZW about the usage, or can they only tell how much data is being used?
I just tested this with the "wifi hotspot" app that's on the (unrooted) Incredible, and holy crap it worked! If this works out then I've just solved my only major gripe with having the Incredible on Verizon!

If you want free wifi tethering, you don't exactly need to root. This'll do the trick:
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I agree- this works wonderfully just with the default preloaded Mobile Hotspot app.
I am wondering if there is still any reason for me to unlock the phone.

GreNME said:
Woah. I've been searching these forums for two weeks looking for this, and thought that my only choice is to root the dang phone. Does this not alert VZW about the usage, or can they only tell how much data is being used?
I just tested this with the "wifi hotspot" app that's on the (unrooted) Incredible, and holy crap it worked! If this works out then I've just solved my only major gripe with having the Incredible on Verizon!
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By changing the dun nai, its supposed to disable the "tell VZW I'm using this app" thing. I'm not sure about this one, but I think they can still see you're using data, just not that its from the hotspot app. Just know, if they can somehow track/tell you're using it and you get caught, I'm not to be held liable lol. Blame the guy who made the post I showed you lol. Just a little disclaimer, just in case.
Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS4.

satyr2k2 said:
I agree- this works wonderfully just with the default preloaded Mobile Hotspot app.
I am wondering if there is still any reason for me to unlock the phone.
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ROMs/kernels/tweaks/mods.
Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS4.

Blah12543 said:
ROMs/kernels/tweaks/mods.
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Sure. What I mean is- I originally wanted to root it only to enable the functionality of the Wifi Hotspot. What functionality can I add by rooting my phone in addition to this?
I don't really see the advantage of having to update my ROM manually any time there is an Android OS update- what's the value?

satyr2k2 said:
Sure. What I mean is- I originally wanted to root it only to enable the functionality of the Wifi Hotspot. What functionality can I add by rooting my phone in addition to this?
I don't really see the advantage of having to update my ROM manually any time there is an Android OS update- what's the value?
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SetCPU was a big selling point in my eyes back when I first rooted. You can underclock the processor while the screen is off to help save battery. But, that kind of stuff is built into some kernels now (Kings BFS6, for example). But, if you want your phone to run a bit faster and smoother, you can overclock. I also like running different ROMs with themes and stuff. The customization is pretty neat imo. Like on this ROM: I have a few (6) quick settings I can change in the notifications bar. Just little conveniences like that win me over lol. And, there are leaked versions of official releases incorporated in to ROMs earlier than they're rolled out. I was running Froyo back in late July lol. Applying different ROMs/updates to the ROMs isn't hard or inconvenient at all... Only when your battery is low does it suck lol. If you wanna remove bloatware, no problem. And, if you ever mess up somewhere, you can usually apply a Nandroid backup you previously made and be good to go.
Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS4.

Haha yeah, I won't be blaming anyone but myself if VZ comes after me. It's still nice to try out. I'm posting this now from my Samsung Tab using the tethered WiFi. Connection looks good!

GreNME said:
Haha yeah, I won't be blaming anyone but myself if VZ comes after me. It's still nice to try out. I'm posting this now from my Samsung Tab using the tethered WiFi. Connection looks good!
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Sweet glad I could help
Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS4.

Android 2.3.5 Update!!! (July 26,2011)

The official update before the official release. Here's the link: http://android.clients.google.com/p...c0.signed-sojus-GRJ90-from-GRJ22.39fe4c59.zip. Enjoy!
What it does: "These enhancements should increase 4G data speeds and signal strength for users. The software update also improves Wi-Fi connectivity, speakerphone audio quality and adds TTY support for the deaf and hard of hearing,” the wireless carrier announced at that time.
Instructions:
1. To begin, download the update from the link above and rename it to update.zip (.zip being the extension.).
2. Copy the update to the root of your SD card and reboot your phone into recovery. (Hold the Volume up button as you press the Power button.)
3. Choose Recovery from the bootloader menu and you will see a triangle with an exclamation mark.
4. Press the Volume up key a few times till the recovery screen shows up.
5. Once in recovery, select Apply sdcard update.zip and this will begin the flashing process.
6. Once the installation is complete, simply reboot your device!
That’s it, your device should now boot up with the new 2.3.5 firmware!

It also removes the free hotspot apparently. Which was bound to happen sooner or later.
Also, this isn't the first thread on it.

Is it really required to name it update.zip? When you go through stock recovery it lets you pick whatever filename you want.

This was suppose to be a "Pure Google" phone. Why is Sprint screwing around with the build and modifying it to block the HotSpot feature? This is why I got the phone in the 1st place. I guess I'll live on 2.3.4 till further notice.

skizzled said:
It also removes the free hotspot apparently. Which was bound to happen sooner or later.
Also, this isn't the first thread on it.
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wireless tether for root users... http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

agonzalez1010 said:
This was suppose to be a "Pure Google" phone. Why is Sprint screwing around with the build and modifying it to block the HotSpot feature? This is why I got the phone in the 1st place. I guess I'll live on 2.3.4 till further notice.
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check your contract.

Is this just a normal update that won't wipe /data?

Stock Rooted ROMs (GRJ90) are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078213
You wont lose data but I recommend atleast wiping cache and dalvik cache.

I pushed the volume up key forever and it still never brought up recovery. Am I doing something wrong??
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App

I'm assuming since you need to boot into recovery to flash this update that you also need to have a rooted phone?

Yes you do have to boot into recovery but you don't need a rooted device.

Nevermind I figured it out. Updated with 2.3.5 and now rooted again
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App

I like the update...but I like the option to blacken the messaging app background. Any way I can change that??
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dblkspecial said:
I like the update...but I like the option to blacken the messaging app background. Any way I can change that??
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
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i thought tht was just in Cm7 based stuff

agonzalez1010 said:
This was suppose to be a "Pure Google" phone. Why is Sprint screwing around with the build and modifying it to block the HotSpot feature? This is why I got the phone in the 1st place. I guess I'll live on 2.3.4 till further notice.
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check your contract buddy, google builds it so if need be it can be used in their phones. go ahead and stay on 2.3.4 not like you can root your phone and use one of the apps in the market that still work and even tether 4g "for free".
I know you have some sort of entitlement to get something everyone else pays for. I can guess that your one of those people that write bad reviews for amazon free apps, just cause you wanted something else

BrianDigital said:
check your contract buddy, google builds it so if need be it can be used in their phones. go ahead and stay on 2.3.4 not like you can root your phone and use one of the apps in the market that still work and even tether 4g "for free".
I know you have some sort of entitlement to get something everyone else pays for. I can guess that your one of those people that write bad reviews for amazon free apps, just cause you wanted something else
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wow there was really no need for this. my guess is his resentment towards sprint making moves to block tethering is real simple. the nexus on tmobile has free tethering and has had it since launch. the nexus s has had free tethering and still does, the nexus s 4g ships with 4g tethering, yet day 1 we get an update to stop that. whatever i can understand not overloading their already poor 4g network, but now the nexus s 4g is teh only nexus phone without tethering. i mean hell even chromebooks get a year of verizon tethering for free.

shabbypenguin said:
wow there was really no need for this. my guess is his resentment towards sprint making moves to block tethering is real simple. the nexus on tmobile has free tethering and has had it since launch. the nexus s has had free tethering and still does, the nexus s 4g ships with 4g tethering, yet day 1 we get an update to stop that. whatever i can understand not overloading their already poor 4g network, but now the nexus s 4g is teh only nexus phone without tethering. i mean hell even chromebooks get a year of verizon tethering for free.
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How i see it aslong as im able to tether, im fine. Thats why i use the google tether apk... its all good i aint complaining lol. Remember sprint has true UNLMT data not like the other carriers that say unlimites data yett u only get 2gbs to start after that its a charge lol... where does unlimited fall into place when u only provided 2 gbs free to use? Thats why i dont complain about sprint cause they got it going
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk

dblkspecial said:
I like the update...but I like the option to blacken the messaging app background. Any way I can change that??
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
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Theres an option for that? Where? Mine is still normal.

Cool to see the update posted finally!

BrianDigital said:
i thought tht was just in Cm7 based stuff
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I believe you are correct.
On the matter of tethering, I have heard some people can still tether while others can not after this update. Could this be a glitch? Sun spots perhaps? Chuck Norris threw up a tethering shield? We don't really know do we? I guess unless Sprint comes out and confirms this, we can only assume they intended to give us an update to block this feature.
I could be misinformed, for that, forgive me in advance and carry on.

[Q] Noob question to Android and rooting

So I'm a first time Android user, just picked up the Verizon LTE Galaxy Nexus. Rooted it with the r3 superboot image. Mainly I just want root access so I can enable tethering, I don't really plan on doing much else with it. After rooting, does that mean I can no longer receive OTA updates? And if so, how would I update Android from here?
Thanks everyone!
Also I should note that other than running a web server, I'm relatively new with linux console as well.

3thereal said:
So I'm a first time Android user, just picked up the Verizon LTE Galaxy Nexus. Rooted it with the r3 superboot image. Mainly I just want root access so I can enable tethering, I don't really plan on doing much else with it. After rooting, does that mean I can no longer receive OTA updates? And if so, how would I update Android from here?
Thanks everyone!
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you will receive. And it should update just fine, if you didnt change anything in system.

Awesome, thanks.
Also, in case anyone finds this, a lot of tethering apps weren't working for me. Couldn't start ad-hoc and create an SSID. The free one that I found that did work right away was Tethering Widget.

offenberg said:
you will receive. And it should update just fine, if you didnt change anything in system.
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OTAs will either not install, or will install but remove your root. If you want to preserve your system and not chance anything just wait a few for the update packages to come out and flash them manually.
As far as tethering, I'd take it easy for a little while. Just rooting and installing a 3rd party app doesn't instantly let you tether the Verizon version. They still have their own tracking software thats going to block/ask you to pay for it. You're best off waiting for people to figure out what files need to be removed to make sure VZW isn't watching your tethering activity.

Awesome thanks for the heads up. As long as i can avoid having to reroot and set up all my personalization, then that would be great. So these update packages, do i install them the same way by booting into bootloader mode and installing it with fastboot?
And i think my last question will be is where is a good spot for me to pay attention to in order to find out when evdnts like these discoveries on tethering happen and the updates released?
Again thanks for being so helpful and covering my ass This is a pretty cool community

Is there a way to stop updates if you're rooted?

Desire Z on WIND Mobile (which radio version)

Has anyone figured out which radio version works best with WIND Mobile in Canada?
My phone seems to randomly lose data connection. To get data back, I turn mobile data off then on again. It happens so frequently, I have it in my Notification window as a toggle.
I have Automatcher v7 to match RIL with radio version. I also have wipe EFS.
Thanks,
Scott
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skewty said:
Has anyone figured out which radio version works best with WIND Mobile in Canada?
My phone seems to randomly lose data connection. To get data back, I turn mobile data off then on again. It happens so frequently, I have it in my Notification window as a toggle.
I have Automatcher v7 to match RIL with radio version. I also have wipe EFS.
Thanks,
Scott
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA
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You could try to change your APN settings. Also i thought the DZ dosent work on wind because it has differrent frequencies?
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evilcuber said:
You need to change your APN settings. Also i thought the DZ dosent work on wind because it has differrent frequencies?
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Oops! I meant G2 (T-Mobile). I have a G2.
If my APN settings were incorrect, why would my data work most of the time?

skewty said:
Oops! I meant G2 (T-Mobile). I have a G2.
If my APN settings were incorrect, why would my data work most of the time?
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As someone who has friends on Wind... I'm thinking it may be your network. Also, you're not supposed to match the rils unless you're using sense. Which ROM are you running?
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skewty said:
Oops! I meant G2 (T-Mobile). I have a G2.
If my APN settings were incorrect, why would my data work most of the time?
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Use latest Radio from T-Mobile 26.13.04.19_M, I'm on it, have never lost 3.5 G data connection

I am currently running ILWT but experienced the same running CM 7, ICS Audacity and ICS Quattro.
I have flashed the newest TMobile ROM a few times.. It must be the WIND network here.
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Update
I don't think it is the network. My father's Amaze does not have this problem in the same places.
ILWT has been the most reliable ROM for me so far. I am currently running Andromadus b4 and am considering switching back because of the data drop-out issue. I have tried 5 different radio versions now.
It must be the ROM. Perhaps it encounters some data it can't make sense of and crashes. Perhaps it just needs to restart itself when this happens. A simple mobile data off, mobile data on fixes it almost every time.
I also find the bars reading incorrect. I be driving down the road with my screen on and the charger plugged in, and it will show me full bars. I can pull over and park for a few minutes, bars still full. Then suddenly half bars, no bars. This behavior is from a device that isn't being physically surrounded / shielded and is stationary.
Anyways, my G2 is getting old and it needs a another core to keep up with the way I now use it. I will wait for Jelly Bean but will likely switch to IOS.
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The menu button disaster is a big one for me. Also the lack of quick updates from Google for Nexus S and Nexus One. These devices should have had OS updates released on the same day the Galaxy Nexus was released.
ICS should have been backwards compatible for older devices as well. A few #ifdef in the code for fancy screen rendering and such. Big, huge fail!
Google, also, should have required no physical menu button for access to Google apps to enforce the new way. With only like 7% ICS market share no wonder app devs write for GB.
Google's handling of Android updates has opened my eyes.

skewty said:
I don't think it is the network. My father's Amaze does not have this problem in the same places.
ILWT has been the most reliable ROM for me so far. I am currently running Andromadus b4 and am considering switching back because of the data drop-out issue. I have tried 5 different radio versions now.
It must be the ROM. Perhaps it encounters some data it can't make sense of and crashes. Perhaps it just needs to restart itself when this happens. A simple mobile data off, mobile data on fixes it almost every time.
I also find the bars reading incorrect. I be driving down the road with my screen on and the charger plugged in, and it will show me full bars. I can pull over and park for a few minutes, bars still full. Then suddenly half bars, no bars. This behavior is from a device that isn't being physically surrounded / shielded and is stationary.
Anyways, my G2 is getting old and it needs a another core to keep up with the way I now use it. I will wait for Jelly Bean but will likely switch to IOS.
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The menu button disaster is a big one for me. Also the lack of quick updates from Google for Nexus S and Nexus One. These devices should have had OS updates released on the same day the Galaxy Nexus was released.
ICS should have been backwards compatible for older devices as well. A few #ifdef in the code for fancy screen rendering and such. Big, huge fail!
Google, also, should have required no physical menu button for access to Google apps to enforce the new way. With only like 7% ICS market share no wonder app devs write for GB.
Google's handling of Android updates has opened my eyes.
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The issue isn't ICS. The issue is the vendors haven't released proper drivers for ICS. What we're dealing with is code we've hacked up to make things work. If the vendors released ICS source code for our devices things would be much more stable.
We're always working within our means. It's not Android/Google's fault and it's not an ICS issue, it's just circumstance.

Thanks
I realize where most of the issues lie. I am an EE grad so I can imagine how difficult hacking ROMs together without device drivers might be.
Writing ASM for a microproc with the datasheets is bad enough. Without knowing what each control register is for and what each bit controls, it is a guessing game at best. I get that.
I very much do appreciate your work. As you are aware, from reading my post, I run a ROM you contribute to. Thank you. You have prolonged the life / pleasure balance I require from my smartphone.
I would contribute more to the development, but my post count was less than 10. I was actually working towards my 10 posts today to post in the dev forums. (The Andromadus beta 4 thread to be more precise).

skewty said:
I realize where most of the issues lie. I am an EE grad so I can imagine how difficult hacking ROMs together without device drivers might be.
Writing ASM for a microproc with the datasheets is bad enough. Without knowing what each control register is for and what each bit controls, it is a guessing game at best. I get that.
I very much do appreciate your work. As you are aware, from reading my post, I run a ROM you contribute to. Thank you. You have prolonged the life / pleasure balance I require from my smartphone.
I would contribute more to the development, but my post count was less than 10. I was actually working towards my 10 posts today to post in the dev forums. (The Andromadus beta 4 thread to be more precise).
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Drop by #g2ics on freenode if you're interested

I have the same issues, G2 on Wind as well. I've had some ROMs where it never occured, but then they had some kind of bug that left me unhappy. I'm currently on CM 7.2 RC1, and I keep a "data" toggle in my notification bar. When it drops I toggle it off and on and it connects again pretty quickly. Until about twelve months ago, MMS was unreliable, but I don't seem to have problems with that anymore.
In general I'm not happy with Android, but as the alternatives are all utterly closed systems I guess I'm stuck with it. It would be unbearable if it weren't for the hard work of all the developers around this forum. Thanks, developers

Agreed. Google has been a huge let down for me as well. Updates are slow or non existent in Canada (even on Nexus devices). Look at the percentage of devices that run ICS. JB is what ICS was supposed to be. I may get an iPhone for work. I am excited to compare it to my Samsung S3 on CM10.
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[Q] AT&T galaxy s3 can't check for OTA updates?

Literally every time i check for software updates i get
"Communication failed"
The server is currently unavailable.
Your device will automatically check for an update within the next 48 hours.
Then if i check again it says device is up to date, you can check for updates again in XXhours. If i go into application manager -> AT&T Software Update and clear data, i can check for updates again but i get the same communication failed. I also tried clearing data and rebooting phone, and it still wont check.
And i can't get Samsung Kies running on my windows 7 pc for some reason, so i can't get updates from there either.
Is anyone else on AT&T experiencing these problems? Any fix for this? I really want that update that adds brightness control to the notification menu.

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I really want that update that adds brightness control to the notification menu.
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I did not update, but hearing that update would disable local search, add new modem. Nothing about Brightness control

There is no brightness control on ATT update. I was having the same problem you were and exchanged the phone. There is no fix as far as I know for the error you are getting. It is a common issue. Search the annoyances (bugs) thread.
I don't know if the OTA update resolves your issue because they day after I exchanged mine the update came out.
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I also haven't been able to get the OTA update. I assumed it was because I rooted and the device is listed as 'modified'. Is the update worth it?

It is in my opinion, and my usage habbits, for the WiFi stability increase that is gained.
Universal search is stripped (searches conducted on phone do not include on device results, ie contacts).
In other words, if you use the Google search by long pressing your menu button the results from your search will only be pulled from the internet.
I rarely use the search built in, so it hardly mattered to me.
Check out the developer forum for ways around the universal strip if you are rooted and want to update.
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Well i reseated the SIM card, and removed the little blue tape from the sd slot and the SIM slot, rebooted and still not working.
I wanted to avoid rooting, since the stock software runs so smoothly and i liked being on the latest at&t software. I guess since i can't get OTA updates now theres no reason not to root.
Will this issue be fixed eventually? Or would i be better off exchanging phones while i can?

I'd exchange it. If you have faulty hardware then rooting won't do anything for you.
Peace of mind, if anything, that if you decide to root your phone is functioning as it should from the start.
Others will argue it's software issues.
But, whatever the cause, none of us paid to have a 90% functioning phone from the factory. Go get what you paid for is my take on it.
Good luck.
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the1stSecond said:
I'd exchange it. If you have faulty hardware then rooting won't do anything for you.
Peace of mind, if anything, that if you decide to root your phone is functioning as it should from the start.
Others will argue it's software issues.
But, whatever the cause, none of us paid to have a 90% functioning phone from the factory. Go get what you paid for is my take on it.
Good luck.
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Well speaking as a software engineer, i'm almost certain its a software issue, most likely with at&t's software update app, or on their servers. Mabey reinstalling the at&t software update application will help?

It sounds reasonable to me. Maybe try the method for No trip flash counter in devoplment? You would be upgrading to the newest firmware and have root and not trip the flash counter. You would still be able to check for ota updates (although should just return the status of your software is up to date since it is a totally stock ROM just with root injected). I imagine that would reinstall the software update service. Although with your knowledge you are way over my head. And whether or not when updating ROMs if that application is reinstalled is something I can't answer.
Maybe just try this first:
Settings> Application Manager> All> AT&T Software Update> Clear Data> Confirm
Power off Phone
Remove battery for at least thirty seconds.
Reinstall battery and power on device.
Try again after device boots up.
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I've been having this same problem
I was thinking that its because of AT&T's controlled release of the OTA.
Its been so long since the release, that I can't imagine that's still true. I also agree that its probably a software thing. I have a number of the bloat apps disabled and also wonder if one or more of those would interfere with such a thing.
I'd love to hear about a resolution.

k3y0n4 said:
I've been having this same problem
I was thinking that its because of AT&T's controlled release of the OTA.
Its been so long since the release, that I can't imagine that's still true. I also agree that its probably a software thing. I have a number of the bloat apps disabled and also wonder if one or more of those would interfere with such a thing.
I'd love to hear about a resolution.
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That's an interesting theory, I've disabled some boatware too. Have you tried enabling them? I'm going to try that now.
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So, if it's a software issue why is it two identical devices running the same software from the factory yield different results? I.e. my first device would do exactly as your original post outlines, then my replacement device had no issue checking for updates (same stock software, same device form factor).
If you search there are a lot of examples of complaints of this exact issue.
I am also very interested in this because even though there are many complaints out there, the only answers seem to be;
1) who cares this is xda and we update through Odin/cwm etc...
2) replace it.
Good luck, I hope you guys find an answer.
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jefferson9 said:
That's an interesting theory, I've disabled some boatware too. Have you tried enabling them? I'm going to try that now.
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I haven't tried enabling everything. I've tried enabling 'Samsung Push' which seemed like the likely starting point. I've been trying to do some debug on some battery drain things, so I've been hesitant to change too much at once. Also, I can basically only check every 24 hours so its slow going.
As far as the hardware issue, it just doesn't make too much sense that a hardware issue would be causing a problem because the software update would presumably be using the same hardware as the rest of the working smartphone functions. I think the explanation to one device updating and one not is more likely a server device id filtering or a user changing more than 'just the new hardware'.
Its neither here nor there though. Everyone will have there hair brained theories. Why don't we start asking what features will be on the next iphone. Seriously though, apple has to add a removable battery right? (I'm just kidding, please don't spam a million responses about how that will or will not ever happen.)

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I haven't tried enabling everything. I've tried enabling 'Samsung Push' which seemed like the likely starting point. I've been trying to do some debug on some battery drain things, so I've been hesitant to change too much at once. Also, I can basically only check every 24 hours so its slow going.
As far as the hardware issue, it just doesn't make too much sense that a hardware issue would be causing a problem because the software update would presumably be using the same hardware as the rest of the working smartphone functions. I think the explanation to one device updating and one not is more likely a server device id filtering or a user changing more than 'just the new hardware'.
Its neither here nor there though. Everyone will have there hair brained theories. Why don't we start asking what features will be on the next iphone. Seriously though, apple has to add a removable battery right? (I'm just kidding, please don't spam a million responses about how that will or will not ever happen.)
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You can bypass the wait time between checks by going into application managment -> at&t software update and clearing data. Then you can try to update again.
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I've had similar issues checking for updates. i gave up and pulled the first update with the USALG1 rom posted in the development forum sticky. I too have several apps disabled (actually moved out of the system/app dir) and was wondering if that possibly caused issues. I never did try updating through kies though.

My kies wont even run on my windows 7 64 bit. There seems to be alot of people having problems with kies on win7 64 bit, nothing from samsung either. So theres really no way for me to get updates

This is How I Got My Phone to Update
I should add that this was my 2nd galaxy s3 to not update. I did a factory reset hoping it would fix the issue. It didn't. I called att customer care for help b/c I was thinking maybe they just set up my account incorrectly when I first got the phone. Nothing else really makes sense. They said they couldn't help and take it to the store. I took it to an att store, and they said they don't actually do any software troubleshooting, so they just exchanged it for a new one. I tried doing the update there, it failed, so I took it home, and I force closed all the update apps, cleared all their data, and it worked as soon as I hit update. If force closing and clearing the data from the att and samsung update apps doesn't help, There may be nothing else you can do except take it in to an att shop.

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I should add that this was my 2nd galaxy s3 to not update. I did a factory reset hoping it would fix the issue. It didn't. I called att customer care for help b/c I was thinking maybe they just set up my account incorrectly when I first got the phone. Nothing else really makes sense. They said they couldn't help and take it to the store. I took it to an att store, and they said they don't actually do any software troubleshooting, so they just exchanged it for a new one. I tried doing the update there, it failed, so I took it home, and I force closed all the update apps, cleared all their data, and it worked as soon as I hit update. If force closing and clearing the data from the att and samsung update apps doesn't help, There may be nothing else you can do except take it in to an att shop.
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When you got it to work, exactly what apps did you force close and clear data? Just AT&T software update? Any others?
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I force closed the At&T Software Update app and I think the Samsung Push Service. It is really the AT&T software update app that finally started downloading immediately after trying it again.

So I finally attempted the Keis connection and it worked immediately. I don't know what other problems people are having, but when I installed it on my Win7 x64 machine I had the S3 connected. After I ran the software for the first time it mentioned an update and proceeded to update it. Keep fighting the good fight jefferson9.