What's the point of a build that release every single day? Are changes made every single day? And I really mean this question.
I'm pretty new at the aosp type roms.
Do they eventually get to a rom that needs no more changes and then stop?
Thanks in advance.
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Nightly builds are a common software development practice. The build is automated. It helps ensure that the software builds and also provides an easy way to determine when a bug was introduced (by checking the older builds to find the last one without the bug).
When the developers feel they have something worthy of an official release, they will make one. CM9 has not reached a release point yet for our device, so you have to run a nightly if you want to try it. If you can't wait for a release and you're willing to tolerate some bugs, try it. Otherwise wait for the official release.
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They make daily changes that they need tested by the GenPop. And the easiest way to test is to crowd source.
Development on AOSP ROMs will never stop due to it being "perfect" they will continue to improve it until the next version of Android is deemed stable or officially released from the manufacturer. Then the old version will typically be abandoned.
However, at certain points, developers will release "Official" or "stable" builds they feel are acceptable for day-to-day use with minimal bugs.
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I know the 2.3 SDK is out and some builds have popped up showcasing some basic gingerbread features. I am curious as to when we can expect to see stable builds of gingerbread appear that can be used as a daily ROM.
I wasnt in the root and ROM game when Froyo was released so i have no concept of what to expect. Does the release of the Nexus S bring us closer? Will we have to wait for Verizon devices to receive the update?
A few weeks after source is released.
I would say shortly after the source code is released; exactly how fast depends on how much has to be done for it to be made compatible. You will see stock OS and kernels first.. sense will follow much later.
do we know when the source code will be released?
I am pretty sure source the source was releases today for the N 1
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Kernel sources are different from the android system that we need
Patience, OP, patience.
If you can't wait, get to work on it!
I am not a huge fan of vanilla android, but I will try out some gingerbread, but I would prefer gingerbread with sense!
I don't think its out of the question to see a daily driver after a system dump of the nexus one/s is pulled.
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was releases today for the N 1
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it was just the kernel, and from nexus s
Will we ever? Coming from a Nexus S I love stock so I also wanted to know is CyanogenMod officaly developing for this phone? Thanks!
Darrien13 said:
Will we ever? Coming from a Nexus S I love stock so I also wanted to know is CyanogenMod officaly developing for this phone? Thanks!
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stock pics rs are out there, but since the base is unofficial and 'leaked', they are all tweaked a little.
Soon the official pics update will be released and you will be able to just get the ota update.
Also, if you look in the development forum you'll see that there is an alpha release that is there, but it is very raw and in early development.
Hope hat helps,
Sean
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Yes we will get stable AOSP 4.0, it's in the works.
you have to remember that all the ICS roms out now are leaks and unoffical releases. Once an offical build hits its a tweak and customize frenzy. Thats when you get somethng stable. these roms are just "test" for a more stable rom. Ive seen android 2.1 go through hundreds of different leaks before a stable build hits
I just can't wait for stock ICS! it was great on my nexus s so I know it gonna be a best on this!
They are still in nightly mode. I would suspect a release candidate by the end of the month, with the ota coming in late April.
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You'd think I would have figured this out by now, but having been a CM9 loyalist since day one I never bothered to learn what any of the others constitute beyond looking at what their acronyms stood for.
So my questions are as follows:
1) What exactly is the difference between Android Open Source, Android Open Kang, and CyanogenMod? My initial understanding (and this was when I followed the stuff more closely on the HP Touchpad) was that AOSP was built directly from the source Google released, CM9 took it and tweaked it for the specific device, and AOKP piggybacked off that to further tweak. I'm not so sure anymore.
2) Who's developing what? I thought the three branches were distinct but then I see sbrissen and chris seemingly making commits to both CM and AOSP, so I'm a little confused by this.
3) What's receiving the most development right now? I was on CM9 Alpha 6 for the longest time. I was debating from moving to a CM9 nightly or a CM10 beta, but the separate thread for AOSP Jellybean made me wonder what exactly that offered vs CM10. I was tempted to stay on CM9 just because it's been around longer but I haven't seen any "official" updates in awhile (i.e. ones on the e4gt.blogspot.com site--I'm sure the nightlies are official in some sense). Is it still even being worked on by the CM team anymore or have they all jumped ship to CM10 development?
As of right now I just flashed the FH13 ICS Stock onto my phone to see how that works out. When the other roms reach a better level of stability I'll probably move back to one of the CM's, but I wanted some idea of what I'm flashing before I do.
Thanks in advance.
Aosp is pure android like on a nexus.
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GiantJay said:
Aosp is pure android like on a nexus.
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Okay...half-answered one of my three questions...and I kind already knew that.
Thanks anyway.
Google it. You will get your answers. Most pointing to the xda forums.
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Cm9 is still being worked on. Chris41g is working on making it officially supported. His nightlies are so much better than alpha 6. I'd recommend upgrading to a nightly if you are on a6. Sbrissens jb aosp is also amazing as well. For me the jump from his alpha 4 to 5 was a huge difference in terms of battery life. I haven't had any los on it or any other problems on it. Recently on one of the alphas (idr which one, probably the latest) he added the status bar toggles so that was a huge plus as well. It still doesn't have the customization of cm10 but it's still amazing.
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I put this on my device yesterday and very glad that I did.
Previously I had Hellybean, and cyanogen 10.1.3 on phone. Helly crashed too often and cyanogen was a battery hog. Plus, cyanogen is not nearly as stable as one would expect from it being such a popular Rom.
Butt I've found that carbon has all the right tweaks, battery life, etc etc.
Any thoughts on this Rom? Should I be updating it daily since it is a nightly our can I just stay with the one I have right now?
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I put this on my device yesterday and very glad that I did.
Previously I had Hellybean, and cyanogen 10.1.3 on phone. Helly crashed too often and cyanogen was a battery hog. Plus, cyanogen is not nearly as stable as one would expect from it being such a popular Rom.
Butt I've found that carbon has all the right tweaks, battery life, etc etc.
Any thoughts on this Rom? Should I be updating it daily since it is a nightly our can I just stay with the one I have right now?
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firstly, this is the wrong thread to ask something this thread is specific for development purposes, asking questions about a rom in their specific thread is ok, but for general questions there's a different part of this device's forum
secondly, its not needed to update on a daily basis, nightlies do tend to fix some sort of issue or bring some sort of improvement to the rom, its basically depending on what has changed (see the changelogs for that) in order to decide to update or not.
If the rom works as it should, then just update whenever you feel the need to update, but what i mostly do with roms like pac and such who release a new nightly every day is to download it, wait for a while and see if anyone starts complaining about issues coming with the new release, if there's none i simply flash it myself. And sometimes i simply don't feel like updating it every day and i'll wait a week or so (depending on if i'm still on that rom or if i'm trying out a new one )
nightlies don't necesarily mean that everything works as it should, instead something might get broken while something else has been fixed.
speaking of cm, there's a lot of custom roms a lot more stable than cm is, and i'm honestly not expecting for that rom to get any better with a lot of the devs leaving and starting the omnirom project
i do have high hopes for omnirom though
I'll check out ommirom.
I didn't see any listings for a section specifically for Carbon ROM. If you have a link that would be awesome.
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I'll check out ommirom.
I didn't see any listings for a section specifically for Carbon ROM. If you have a link that would be awesome.
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don't now if there is one though, but there's a q&a thread which questions like yours are normally aksed in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136885 i think is the one you should be asking rom related questions in for carbon, it looks like that one is aimed at the note 2 lte variants
i just got my m9 and although i see a few beta builds of aosp it really seems development in that area is very limited. really no aosp based kernels either. am i missing something or did aosp development just never take off and get stable for this device?
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i just got my m9 and although i see a few beta builds of aosp it really seems development in that area is very limited. really no aosp based kernels either. am i missing something or did aosp development just never take off and get stable for this device?
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You are right, there arent stables for now, but i guess they will come in future, cm is near to stable, a lot of bug got fixed in the last week, so its time to be patient...
I disagree. I have been running cm based Roms since I got my M9 a few months ago
Look in the development thread for the candy5 rom and the kernel named smoocha.
I'm on mobile so don't have the links.
They are 2 of the most frequently commented threads so they are always at the top.
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